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TheOptimist
January 20th, 2010, 18:02
They've put men on the moon, explored the deepest of underwater caves, created inconceivably massive structures, and observed the tiniest building blocks of our creation.

I challenge ANY of those people to correctly install the FSD SDK.

Seriously, is this some kind of test to ensure that only mensa grand leaders can make alterations in FSX?

I need the SDK installed to use SBuilderX (that's right, isn't it?) and for the life of me I have no idea what I'm doing. I've searched online for tutorials but they all seem aimed at different installations of FSX etc, plus even those at the most basic level confuse me.

I have FSX gold edition, and just installed it all (deluxe and acceleration) in one big lump. No messing about.

Based on this site here: http://www.fsdeveloper.com/wiki/index.php?title=SDK_Installation_(FSX)

Do I just have to follow these instructions;


FSX Acceleration Pack users

To install the SDK for FSX Acceleration Pack:


Insert your Acceleration Pack DVD
Open the folder called SDK
First install the RTM SDK and SDK SP1A (see instructions above, SDK SP1A is included on the disk for your convenience)
Install sdk.msi from your disk to install the SDK for the Acceleration Pack



And non of the others? I can ignore the ones pertaining to SP1/2 and ignore the bit about the RTM (even though I do have deluxe, but acceleration as well)?

As far as I'm aware I've got the service packs installed, although I don't know for sure because like I said, installation just involved clicking 'yes' 10 times then letting it do its thing.

Thank you in advance. Hopefully soon I will be part of the exclusive club of those with working SDK's.

scottmm73
January 20th, 2010, 19:02
http://www.fsdeveloper.com/wiki/index.php?title=SDK_Installation_(FSX)#FSX_SP2_use rs (http://www.fsdeveloper.com/wiki/index.php?title=SDK_Installation_%28FSX%29#FSX_SP2 _users)

With the Deluxe version of FSX you need to download and install the SP1A and SP2 for the FSX SDK, these are not the same as FSX SP1 and SP2. They are two seperate entities. The links for those downloads are slightly above where the webpage takes you.

spotlope
January 20th, 2010, 20:15
It's a maddening process, but you have to install the SDKs in order, one after the other, for SP1, SP2, and Acceleration. Doing it out of order or not installing them all will call a halt to the process. For some reason, the SDK data is sewn up tighter than Ft. Knox.

anthony31
January 20th, 2010, 20:53
Oh what a misery that was. Installing the SDK. Managed to stuff it up so bad I had to reinstall FSX.

fsafranek
January 20th, 2010, 20:58
It can be done. It just takes a few a lot of time and patience.
As does the work you install it for. I think I've done it twice
now, once during FSX beta testing and once on a new hard drive.
:ernae:

stiz
January 21st, 2010, 00:13
it aint that bad :)

Install SDK from main FSX disks
Install the SP1 patch from the Acceleration disk
Install the Acceleration extra (or SP2) patch from the Acceleration disk

simples :engel016:

TheOptimist
January 21st, 2010, 00:31
Ok then. Hold on tight everyone.

I'm going in.

huub vink
January 21st, 2010, 00:37
Although I work in the space industry, I haven't put any men on the moon. A dive to the bottom of our local swimmingpool was about the deepest dive I made. And I have not created any "inconceivably massive structures". Nevertheless I thought the installation of SDK was arather straight forward as long as you do it in the right sequence (could be luck as well) :engel016:.

Actually most men I know, who are capable to put something on the moon or even further, would get lost in their own pocket. So don't ask them to do something simple, as clicking a few executable files in the right sequence. Most probably they would make a bigger mess of it than you can imagine ;).

Good luck!
Huub

TheOptimist
January 21st, 2010, 00:48
One quick question. I've downloaded and installed the SDK RTM without problems. I'lll shortly be installing SP1.

Regarding SP2 and acceleration, it says this;


FSX SP2 users

For standalone SP2 users only ! (All Acceleration Pack users please see instructions below at FSX Acceleration Pack Users).
To install the SDK for FSX SP2:


Download FSX SDK SP2
First install the RTM SDK and SDK SP1A (see instructions above)
Install the FSX SDK SP2 that you downloaded

[edit (http://www.fsdeveloper.com/wiki/index.php?title=SDK_Installation_%28FSX%29&action=edit&section=12)] FSX Acceleration Pack users

To install the SDK for FSX Acceleration Pack:


Insert your Acceleration Pack DVD
Open the folder called SDK
First install the RTM SDK and SDK SP1A (see instructions above, SDK SP1A is included on the disk for your convenience)
Install sdk.msi from your disk to install the SDK for the Acceleration Pack



Paying specific attention to the bit in red, can I just clarify that I do not need to download the SP2, instead I just download the SP2/Acceleration option.

Thank you.

stiz
January 21st, 2010, 00:54
if you have acceleration theres no need to download the SP2 patch, just install the acceleration sdk, as that includes SP2 but adds some extras as well (mainly carrier stuff)

TheOptimist
January 21st, 2010, 00:56
Cheers.

All good so far.

If my computer does this without hassle I'm going to treat it to a defrag. Right after I've made the best scenery the world has ever seen, of course.

FlameOut
January 21st, 2010, 02:46
...would get lost in their own pocket...

I have not heard of that one before :jump: LOL

Snuffy
January 21st, 2010, 03:22
Hey! If I can figure it out ... so should you! LOL!

jmig
January 21st, 2010, 03:26
:icon_lol: @ the "get lost in their own pocket"

I have a good friend who is a high powered PhD Physicist. He works for one of the aerospace firms and although he has never been involved with putting a man on the moon, he HAS helped put satellites up around the earth.

He cannot get lost. That is because he doesn't go anywhere. Before going anywhere, he has to consult 14 different maps and charts, 3 GPS units, and his satellite powered atomic watch. He will then look at the weather report on several different outlets and prepare for a possible blizzard in July.

By then, he has either forgotten where he was going or the charts and maps are now out of date and he has to start over again.

Now, we take you back to your regular scheduled thread.

BASys
January 21st, 2010, 05:49
Hi Folks

TheOptimist -
Would appreciate your assistance please,
or that of any other Acceleration disk owner.

The MS beta testers were never issued with Acceleration disks,
and their downloads didn't include the older SP1A SDK or containing subfolder.

The FSDeveloper Wiki SDK (http://www.fsdeveloper.com/wiki/index.php?title=SDK_Installation_%28FSX%29) article was recently 'rationalised'
and some instructions could still have been clearer.

I've now modified the article to read -

2.1.4 FSX Acceleration Pack users

To install the SDK for FSX Acceleration Pack:


First install the RTM SDK from FSX Deluxe Edition disk 1, (see FSX RTM users instructions above).
Insert your Acceleration Pack DVD.
Browse to the subfolder called SDK\?SUBFOLDERNAME?\ (what's the correct folder name).
Install the SDK SP1A from there using that sdk.msi (what's the correct filename, filedate and filesize ?).
Browse to the folder called SDK\
Install the Acceleration Pack SDK using that sdk.msi, (same name, dated 06/10/2007, size 216,929KB).

To complete those instructions
I need to know the correct SUBFOLDERNAME ?
Filesize and date would also be appreciated.



Does that version now make things any clearer ?



HTH
ATB
Paul

Henry
January 21st, 2010, 06:16
i installed it that was pretty easy
understanding it is another story:isadizzy:
H

Brett_Henderson
January 21st, 2010, 07:17
i installed it that was pretty easy
understanding it is another story:isadizzy:
H

Yup.. getting it installed is the easy part.. the documentation is just bizarre.

It's like they started with a list of what they'd WANT from the SDK.. then shuffled and mixed topics into no sensible order.. and then used THAT as a guidline to put the SDK together.. then shuffled the documentation again, for good measure.. and published it.. :isadizzy:

scottmm73
January 21st, 2010, 07:52
Hi Folks

TheOptimist -
Would appreciate your assistance please,
or that of any other Acceleration disk owner.

The MS beta testers were never issued with Acceleration disks,
and their downloads didn't include the older SP1A SDK or containing subfolder.

The FSDeveloper Wiki SDK (http://www.fsdeveloper.com/wiki/index.php?title=SDK_Installation_%28FSX%29) article was recently 'rationalised'
and some instructions could still have been clearer.

I've now modified the article to read -
To complete those instructions
I need to know the correct SUBFOLDERNAME ?
Filesize and date would also be appreciated.



Does that version now make things any clearer ?



HTH
ATB
Paul

Paul,

Here are two screen shots of my FSX Gold Acceleration Disk, the subfolder name you are requesting is simply SP1A. The filesize of the SP1A SDK update is 161 MB or 165,569 KB, the date is 26 September 2007 for the "Gold" Acceleration Disk

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4010/4292731957_413b0ebbd0_o.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4064/4292741895_d2fe7dd181_o.jpg

BASys
January 21st, 2010, 08:00
Hi Folks

Scott -
Cheers for your screenie,
much appreciated.

Could you, or anyone, please
also give me the filename, filesize, and filedate
of the content in that SP1a folder ? (no screenie required).

EDIT -
Thanks for your second screenie.
Must have been uploading whilst I'd posted.

The FSDeveloper - Wiki - SDK Installation (FSX) (http://www.fsdeveloper.com/wiki/index.php?title=SDK_Installation_%28FSX%29) article
has now been updated to latest known good info.

Many thanks
ATB
Paul

TheOptimist
January 21st, 2010, 10:28
All done of course, and bar a little tweaking it works perfectly.

Thanks for the help everyone.

Francois
January 21st, 2010, 10:52
Hi Folks



The MS beta testers were never issued with Acceleration disks,
and their downloads didn't include the older SP1A SDK or containing subfolder.


HTH
ATB
Paul


Yes they were.......

BASys
January 21st, 2010, 11:28
Hi Folks



Hi Folks



The MS beta testers were never issued with Acceleration disks,
and their downloads didn't include the older SP1A SDK or containing subfolder.


HTH
ATB
Paul
Yes they were.......
Francois -
Well you're the first
and only one I've heard of
who received an Acceleration disk.

The downloads didn't include the older SP1A SDK or containing subfolder.

The
ATB
Paul

tintype
August 23rd, 2016, 16:17
it aint that bad :)

Install SDK from main FSX disks
Install the SP1 patch from the Acceleration disk
Install the Acceleration extra (or SP2) patch from the Acceleration disk

simples :engel016:

I have FSX Deluxe and Acceleration and can find the SDK and service packs on the disks. But when trying to installed SDK the disk just spins and spins. DVD drive seems to be working otherwise. The program I want to use involves a lengthy learning curve and I haven't even been able to install the required SDK software yet. I'll report back in a year or so, it looks like.

henrystreet
August 23rd, 2016, 16:58
The Prepar3d v1.x SDK is 100% compatible with FSX Acceleration objects and is freely downloadable from Lockheed Martin. One install file.

Lane Street
August 23rd, 2016, 18:53
...when trying to installed SDK the disk just spins and spins.

Try copying the files to your Desktop and run them from there.

cheers,
Lane

Willy
August 23rd, 2016, 20:07
The Prepar3d v1.x SDK is 100% compatible with FSX Acceleration objects and is freely downloadable from Lockheed Martin. One install file.

I just learned this this morning and didn't waste any time about downloading and installing it. FSX SE doesn't come with the SDK so you have to look elsewhere for it.

awstub
September 23rd, 2016, 18:06
Sorry, I'm a little late to this thread...


I'm wondering if I install the Prepare3D SDK, would there be any reason I would need or want to also install the FSX SDK on my system?

hairyspin
September 23rd, 2016, 23:49
None at all. I have the P3D 1.4 SDK for FSX modelling in 3ds Max and don't need anything else.