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casey jones
January 19th, 2010, 08:57
I have been keeping up with and following story since it came out in the China newspaper Global Times, I have searched all availble historys of B-29 losses for 1950...so far there is no record of a B-29 loss on Nov 5 1950, the China news report stated there were 15 US personnel on the B-29 among them a woman also. There appears to be some contradictions in the story, I have not seen any kind of news release from the Pentagon on this. I checked all the B-29 Groups operated from Japan 1950 to 1953, no record of a B-29 loss for November 5, 1950. How did the China news agency know it was a B-29? If it is true why was the B-29 operating so far south along the China coast? Could it have been a RB-29 that may have been flying some Recon mission? Thank You All For reading this.

Cheers

Casey:salute:

CWOJackson
January 19th, 2010, 09:18
This is the only recorded loss for Nov 50:

10 November – A USAF (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Air_Force) B-50 Superfortress (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-50_Superfortress) of the 43rd Bomb Wing on a routine weapons ferrying flight between Goose Bay, Labrador (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goose_Bay,_Labrador) and its home base at Davis-Monthan AFB (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davis-Monthan_AFB), Arizona, loses two of four engines. To maintain altitude it jettisons empty Mark 4 nuclear bomb (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_4_nuclear_bomb) casing just before 1600 hrs. at 10,500 feet above the St. Lawrence River (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Lawrence_River) near the town of St. Alexandre-de-Kamouraska (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint-Alexandre-de-Kamouraska,_Quebec), about 90 miles NE of Quebec, Canada (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec,_Canada). HE in the casing observed detonating upon impact in the middle of the twelve-mile-wide river, blast felt for 25 miles. Official Air Force explanation at the time is that the Superfortress released three conventional 500-pound HE bombs.<sup id="cite_ref-Gibson_2-4" class="reference">[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incidents_involving_military _aircraft,_1950-1974#cite_note-Gibson-2)</sup>

CWOJackson
January 19th, 2010, 09:21
Here's a good link for you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incidents_involving_military _aircraft,_1950-1974

Snuffy
January 19th, 2010, 09:22
Russia was known to have "replicas" of B-29s that they pilfered from "shuttled" aircraft.

I would sooner bet it was a Russian Replica rather than a U.S. bird.

Who knows?

Toastmaker
January 19th, 2010, 09:24
Good possibility, assuming the Chinese aren't simply lying their asses off.

:salute:

Willy
January 19th, 2010, 10:08
Don't know anything about a Nov 15 1950 crash of a B-29, but the Soviet Union seized 3 B-29s that landed there after bombing Japan late in WWII. Stalin ordered Tupelov to copy them. The resulting Tu-4 was almost a rivet for rivet copy of the Boeing Superfort.

oakfloor
January 19th, 2010, 10:26
A freind of mine, who's father was a navgator on 29's and then 50's was in a "weather" :icon_lol: unit. And they were stationed in japan and made many flights close to and probley into china, and snooped around and a few that got to close were shot at and a few were down. Thats all he would say about it.

FAC257
January 19th, 2010, 13:43
B-29, female onboard, downed in unknown territory???????

I tried to tell everyone this movie was based on a real story.
http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi1205142297/

:)

FAC

TARPSBird
January 19th, 2010, 21:48
There were all kinds of covert intel collection ops going on in the early years of the Cold War. Would not be surprised if this aircraft was a RB-29 shot down during a photo mission, although the alleged female in the crew is really strange.

Lionheart
January 19th, 2010, 23:17
The Russians actually had our B-29's for a long time. The crews had to land there having run out of fuel, and Russian sent the flight crew's home without their planes. Took us a while to get them back, if we did.. I had heard about this story, but forgot some of the details.

They were totally overwhelmed with the Super Fortress. It was like a science fiction dream ship to them.

No reason to steal them though...



Bill

Piglet
January 20th, 2010, 00:24
If it wasn't for the Ruskies copying the B-29, as the TU-4 "Bull", there would be no TU-95's, TU-116's etc.
Funkiest of the bunch, are the turboprop conversions China did to it's TU-4's

Bjoern
January 20th, 2010, 21:20
They were totally overwhelmed with the Super Fortress. It was like a science fiction dream ship to them.

I doubt it. The Russians weren't that far behind aircraft-wise.