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Marlin
January 13th, 2010, 16:06
for those poor, and I really mean poor, people that are in Haiti

All of those dots are individual earthquakes and the smallest one is a high 4s.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k320/Marlint/hati1.jpg

Lionheart
January 13th, 2010, 17:10
Ive been sending prayers already.

If I were in good shape and had a way over, I would go help. Man, they have it bad. It is horrific.


Bill

Rami
January 13th, 2010, 17:12
My wife is a RN and may be going down there in the next couple of days. I'll gladly play Mr. Mom while she's gone.

hey_moe
January 13th, 2010, 17:27
To read they expect there are over ten thousand dead shows how bad this really is. A&E (company I work at) are asking some of the service techs would they mind going for a month or two to help rebuild. When Porto Rico got trashed by that hurricane that leveled the island, we spent well over 6 months there and donated over a thousand generators. I guess it's packing time. I am sch. for the first of March.Senior techs always end up going first. I hope to be back at work by then.

Dain Arns
January 13th, 2010, 17:58
We've been praying here. It's really so overwhelming.
There are so many missionaries down there we haven't heard from.
We help support a school and orphanage there. We keep hearing of schools destroyed, and the bodies of children stacked up. No survivors.
We're trying hard not to let our hearts sink here.

Haiti was such a desperate situation to begin with.
Reports say not tens of thousands dead now, but hundreds. Perhaps 500,000.
And no clean water, there was hardly any before. And the dead in the streets. And no food.

A relief organization here has been preparing food packages. They will be shipping 40,000 boxes out by a plane from the Navy.
Even if you can't donate money at the moment in these tough economic times, organizations like this will gladly except the help of your backs, and hands, and hearts.
Please help. Do what you can.
Love and compassion are the greatest gifts you can give to fellow human beings in times of need.
And lots of prayers. Lots and lots of prayers.

Lionheart
January 13th, 2010, 21:25
We've been praying here. It's really so overwhelming.
There are so many missionaries down there we haven't heard from.
We help support a school and orphanage there. We keep hearing of schools destroyed, and the bodies of children stacked up. No survivors.
We're trying hard not to let our hearts sink here.

Haiti was such a desperate situation to begin with.
Reports say not tens of thousands dead now, but hundreds. Perhaps 500,000.
And no clean water, there was hardly any before. And the dead in the streets. And no food.

A relief organization here has been preparing food packages. They will be shipping 40,000 boxes out by a plane from the Navy.
Even if you can't donate money at the moment in these tough economic times, organizations like this will gladly except the help of your backs, and hands, and hearts.
Please help. Do what you can.
Love and compassion are the greatest gifts you can give to fellow human beings in times of need.
And lots of prayers. Lots and lots of prayers.



Hey Dain,

I hope your sponsored school kids made it. Its horrible news man..

I wonder if the Navy centers in Phoenix are taking donations? That would be pretty cool if our Armed Forces became drop off centers for donations to go there.



Mike.... Dont you need to let that thumb heal first before you start on an expedition to save a country and people? You just got out of the hospital man.



Bill

rayrey10
January 13th, 2010, 21:41
I spent a few months in Haiti back in 93-94 and it was one of the saddest things I ever saw. I truly feel sorry for those people. They are definitely in my prayers.

mariereid
January 14th, 2010, 00:51
Yeah, it's sad how very, very bad things are just a few miles from where we live. I am talking about before the earthquake. Even the wosrt days of our lives are much, much better than the best days of thiers. You never know how lucky we are to live where we do, until you see these poor countries for yourself. I hope and pray life for them will improve to a much higher level.

hey_moe
January 14th, 2010, 02:45
All I did is sign in and let them know I might be available in March. I hope to be back at work by then. They have to set up flight plans, where the techs will stay. It isn't just techs from our unit but they pull some from each unit.Most of the places over there are tin shacks and straw homes. We also saw this in Porto Rico. It is kinda of hard to believe people still live like that. Seeing a few pictures here and there really shows nothing compared to being there and seeing it first hand.One of the biggest things I see is trying to get running water. In Porto Rico we sunk so many well systems I could hardly open my hands Porto Rico is no where near as poor as Haiti,but there was enough.It was kinda of weird to go to a area that looked like a empty field and then you find out that ... that use to be a neighborhood of tin shacks and old wooden sheds.It is very hard to explain everything we saw there and the amount of damage we saw what mother nature did.Here is a kinda of a way to look at it. This summer go in the woods with only your shirt and shorts and see how long you can stay there with no food,water,flash light...nothing but the shirt on your back. I am sure we have members in here that have seen what I am talking about.They know I won't go until most of the bodies are removed...I can't handle seeing kids that have been killed and don't have the stomach for it either. Yea moe is a puss when it comes to that. I just have one thing to say and that is thank god for our military. They are by far the most helpful than anyone one or team that goes down there and never complains.Three quarters of the people make less than two dollars a day.
Hey Dain,

Mike.... Dont you need to let that thumb heal first before you start on an expedition to save a country and people? You just got out of the hospital man.



Bill

brad kaste
January 14th, 2010, 07:24
Here is a short list of faith based organizations for Haitian Relief.
They've proven that one's charitable giving will go a long way in helping out the less fortunate.

World Vision: www.worldvision.org (http://www.worldvision.org/)

• Samaritan’s Purse: www.samaritanspurse.org (http://www.samaritanspurse.org/)

• Compassion International: www.compassion.com (http://www.compassion.com/)

• Bright Hope International: www.brighthope.org (http://www.brighthope.org/)

• Salvation Army: www.salvationarmyusa.org (http://www.salvationarmyusa.org/)

• Rapid Response Chaplains [sharing Christ in Haiti]: www.billygraham.org (http://www.billygraham.org/)

Lionheart
January 14th, 2010, 09:16
Thanks Mike for that illustration. That sent chills up my back. Horrible how some other countries have it, and then such a catastrophe...


Thanks Brad on the links.

Usually I send in a donation to Care when something horrific happens. I am going to call my Church and see what they are doing also.


Bill

brad kaste
January 14th, 2010, 09:44
Bill,
Yes,....Care for the Child is a well proven charity. So is the Salvation Army , Red Cross, and Catholic Charities.
-Brad

hey_moe
January 14th, 2010, 10:37
I don't want to take away from this thread what it is about, but one of the cruises Linda and I took went to Haiti to a tourist area called Labadee. It is a area that Royal Caribbean brought and maintained. They had the area fenced off to keep us in a certain area and we were instructed to stay in the fenced in area. The locals keep the place up and are supplied clothes and other things. They work for tips only and you can see they are very poor.As we were pulling in you could see trails of candle lights where the people were trying to make it to where we were to sell us things. RC was very strict as to who or what was allowed near the tourist. We also saw this in Mexico. The water at Haiti is beautiful, and if you view the other pictures close enough you can really see how poor these people are. It looked like if a strong enough breeze went through the area it would blow down the huts and so called homes. These shots were on the out skirts of Haiti away from even poorer areas. You know the little metal sheds you can buy for your back yard to store you lawn equipment and junk...these are what most of the people live in as homes.When we were in Mexico, we rented out a four wheel jeep and went to the outlining area of Mexico. To see the tin sheds with no plumming,electricy,water...ect...ect and see families living in them was just mind blowing. Next time you go to your kitchen sink and pour a glass of water, that is a luxury... that is something they will never see or have. Something simple like that ... that we take for granitic. We don't really understand how lucky we are to live in a country like what we have. Even our homeless live by far better than they do.

Marlin
January 14th, 2010, 13:02
Three quarters of the people make less than two dollars a day.

Not any more. Obama just gave 100 million dollars to the people of Haiti. That equals about $500,000 per person to the estimated 2 million people that live in that area.

To bad that money isn't going to go to THE PEOPLE. I bet they could make a seriously better life for themselves if it did.

I just hope that they get the food and water they need to maintain themselves. Man what a tragedy, a tragedy of biblical proportions.

Helicopters dropping at least bottles of water into the city would be the first thing to do. A body can live a long time without food, but water; they need water now.

harleyman
January 14th, 2010, 13:39
This is just awful.... We will send prayers and contribute to a organization..

Moe...Summer before last I was In Laberdee too...It was very odd being on that hugh luxery liner, looking over the hillsides at the living conditions they had there..We felt awful than and even worst now...We watched boatload after boatload of the touist plac e workers going home late afternoon, as we watched from our balcony, ..They fished on the way, and by dusk you could see all the fires and folks cooking outside of the little shacks..very sad...

FAC257
January 14th, 2010, 14:06
I've had a soft spot for Haiti for a long time. When I spent a little time down there many years ago I was immediatly struck by what being poor really meant. It changed my atitude towards poverty from that point on.

I'm still trying to get a hold of a Haitian friend up near work to see if she's heard anything about her mom, who lives just south of the port.


Moe
Here's a couple of shots of LaBadie from 36 years ago before RC got a hold of it. In fact at the time it was remote enough even from Cap Hatien that it was rarely visited by anyone except a passing sailboat like ours. I don't think the town itself at the time had a population over a hundred or so. The entire village is visable on the far shore of the first shot.The two little fishing boats used come over and wake us up every morning to collect our bags of garbage. They let nothing go to waste.

FAC

hey_moe
January 14th, 2010, 16:32
I know I have some age on me now but I had seen pictures in the News, TV...ect..ect. but that is way different than being there and seeing it first hand.When Harley said they don't waste anything he isn't kidding. I never saw any type of litter,trash,bottles...you name it .. it wasn't discarded. They found use for everything.Some of the fishing boats tried to come up to our taxi boats but were stopped before they could get within yelling distance of our boat. I know if some of you have been to Mexico and got off the boat as soon as you got to the boarding area and walked up a few hundred yards from there you came upon the so call flea market shops, that just about begged you to buy some of the souvenirs.Most of the stuff we saw was just junk and cheap stuff...yeah Moe and Mrs. moe made some donations. I know some in here think that there government will profit from what has happened, but with our Military there I bet cha the people will be helped long before money goes to there government.When something like this happens you can really see the kindness of our world come and help one another.It doesn't matter who or how much a country spends or donates...it's the pulling together that makes all this happen and all indifference put to one side...Mike

Dain Arns
January 14th, 2010, 16:51
Not any more. Obama just gave 100 million dollars to the people of Haiti. That equals about $500,000 per person to the estimated 2 million people that live in that area.

To bad that money isn't going to go to THE PEOPLE. I bet they could make a seriously better life for themselves if it did.

Uh, let's try $50 per person instead.
2,000,000 people x $50 = $100,000,000 dollars

$500,000 for that many people = 1 Trillion dollars.

Sorry I'm really not trying to be an :censored: here towards you, Marlin.
Also, not trying not to belittle the situation in Haiti.

But please, let's check the math first before throwing out figures like that.
Quotes like that have a tendency to get folks needlessly upset around these parts. :icon_lol:

wombat666
January 14th, 2010, 17:39
Médecins Sans Frontières Australia are setting up a 100 bed emergency hospital and already have had people on the scene for a couple of days (it's Friday our time).
My wife will be departing on Saturday early morning, I can't argue about this one as she is a Paediatric Specialist and the kids over there really need her.
I do get very displeased when MSF ask her to go to such unfriendly areas as the Sudan ...... not that Sofie takes any notice.

Marlin
January 14th, 2010, 17:41
It doesn't matter who or how much a country spends or donates...it's the pulling together that makes all this happen and all indifference put to one side...Mike


Uh, let's try $50 per person instead.




Thank you both.

There is a new Google Earth image of that area if you want to see the damage. It brings tears to my eyes.

Dain Arns
January 14th, 2010, 18:20
Over joyed at the response that is enroute, especially from some of the community members here.
Your hands and hearts will be doing so much down there. Bless you all.
Thank you all that are responding to Haiti and we will pray for you as well. :engel016:

Overwhelming. I just can't get that word out of my head as I continue to see the devastation. :kilroy:

Thank you, Marlin. :applause:


EDIT: Looking at that in Google Earth, you can see all of the people in the streets.
One building you can see was above tree level, now the trees tower over it.

Lionheart
January 14th, 2010, 18:52
Just made a donation to RedCross.org. I they have a 'DONATE NOW' button at the top right, and on the next page, you can select where it will go, and I chose Haiti.



Wombat, I'll be praying for Sofie. Thats a huge job ahead of her. God bless her man..


I was just watching some news video on this on the BBC website. Horiffic...


All those huge buildings, lowered to stacks of floors. The walls gone. From my point of view, the Island is wiped out.


Bill

Piglet
January 14th, 2010, 22:02
Are there any org's taking care of pets/animals? Yeah I know they're not people, but still....

Marlin
January 14th, 2010, 22:20
Are there any org's taking care of pets/animals? Yeah I know they're not people, but still....


Food

Piglet
January 14th, 2010, 22:38
Just thought of something. Haiti shares the island with Dominican Republic, yet I see no word on the quake's effect on them. It's not a huge island.
Marlin,
I'm sure most animals are livestock, and eaten/sacrificed by the locals. But in every country, some one's got a pet, somewhere. Can missionaries be taught to fetch?

harleyman
January 15th, 2010, 02:16
Médecins Sans Frontières Australia are setting up a 100 bed emergency hospital and already have had people on the scene for a couple of days (it's Friday our time).
My wife will be departing on Saturday early morning, I can't argue about this one as she is a Paediatric Specialist and the kids over there really need her.
I do get very displeased when MSF ask her to go to such unfriendly areas as the Sudan ...... not that Sofie takes any notice.



Thats a tough thing......She must be a remarkable woman to do things as such....She and you will be in my prayers too..

My sister is also on a disaster recovery team out of Chapel Hill NC, and will probably go there at some point..Their team tests for dangerous chemicals, water, gasses, and the such...

Marlin
January 15th, 2010, 02:41
Just thought of something. Haiti shares the island with Dominican Republic, yet I see no word on the quake's effect on them. It's not a huge island.
Marlin,


This was from JUST the big 7.0

http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=33098&stc=1&d=1263438729

Snuffy
January 15th, 2010, 03:52
I have heard that the area is still suffering the effects of aftershocks, at times two or more a day, with some as high as 4.0 on the scale.

I dont' believe this is far from over yet till the plates decide to quit moving.

Marlin
January 15th, 2010, 04:03
43 of them as of last night Ted.

That picture that I posted above was from two nights ago. I would rephrase your statement to say something like; some of them were as low as 4.0 but most were higher.

Chacha
January 15th, 2010, 04:08
Prayers sent.... :engel016: