OH-58D Kiowa Warrior

[Old Crow]

Has been released by Area51 for both FS9 and FSX. Price is $29.95

See here for more info: http://www.area51sim.com/kiowa.html

[MCDesigns]

Sweet! Will be picking it up very soon!:ernae:

[euroastar350]

Awesome...gotta wait til payday for this one:kilroy:

[flaviossa]

Very well done model, sound package is ok, average fde, VC is ok but few clickable spots (Just the basic and this is it).
In the end a good package for fun, not for "simulation"! :engel016:
Maybe too expensive for what is released? I don´t know at the moment. Have to fly it more .....

[falcon409]

Very well done model, sound package is ok, average fde, VC is ok but few clickable spots (Just the basic and this is it).
In the end a good package for fun, not for "simulation"! :engel016:
Maybe too expensive for what is released? I don´t know at the moment. Have to fly it more .....
Flaviossa, can you expand a bit on a few things? The average FDE, how is it average? In others words I guess what I'm asking really is, what are you basing the performance on? The clickable VC, you say only the basics, what does that cover exactly?
Thanks:salute:

[flaviossa]

Well, i´m not a chopper pilot but i´m comparing it with the dodosim in terms of performance. For example, the hovering is granted to easy ... The Dodosim is more complex to achieve.
The VC is beatifull but not "clickable". As for example the collective don´t move and i´m searching until now how to turn off the engines without using ctrl+shift+f1
And i just did one flight of 15 minutes with it. Maybe i have to fly it more and see what it can do. Please don´t take my words as final! Maybe other simmers can find things that i was unable to see. Here in Brazil is 01:00 in the morning ... and i am almost sleeping in the keyboard. Maybe tomorrow i can get you more answers!! :salute:

[falcon409]

Well, i´m not a chopper pilot but i´m comparing it with the dodosim in terms of performance. For example, the hovering is granted to easy ... The Dodosim is more complex to achieve.
The VC is beatifull but not "clickable". As for example the collective don´t move and i´m searching until now how to turn off the engines without using ctrl+shift+f1
And i just did one flight of 15 minutes with it. Maybe i have to fly it more and see what it can do. Please don´t take my words as final! Maybe other simmers can find things that i was unable to see. Here in Brazil is 01:00 in the morning ... and i am almost sleeping in the keyboard. Maybe tomorrow i can get you more answers!! :salute:
Fair enough. I went to the Support Forum and the product forum thinking I might find more there as far as what they expected from the VC. The only thing I could find was a short statement to the effect that "almost all of the VC is clickable". That statement begs the question though. . .of the clickable switches. . .how many are "functional"?

As for the FDE. . .man, that's a tough call because none of us (that I know of) have flown the Kiowa, so pitting it up against another Chopper that none of us have flown as a guide might require a bit more testing, lol.

I won't purchase this as much as I'd love to. . .finances will keep my card in the wallet, but overall, it "looks" fabulous. I'd be interested to hear more on the VC and FDE from others, especially if we happen to have a real world Kiowa pilot in our midst. . . .shoot, any chopper pilot would be excellent, lol.:applause:

[Dain Arns]

It'll be a while before I can afford it as well. Would love to do a comparison. :kilroy:

[Txmmy83]

looks like they are pros in designing helos
I already have their cobra which I like


BR
Tom

[Quixoticish]

Is there a repaint kit?

[arrowmaker]

Well, i´m not a chopper pilot but i´m comparing it with the dodosim in terms of performance.

Well to be honest, my understanding is that pretty much every heli addon will come off worse when compared to the Dodosim. However not really being a rotorhead myself, I quite enjoy the simpler models. The AlphaSim Apache and Black Shark are probably my favourite heli's for FSX. So this Kiowa might suit. However I think I'll wait until more opinion's are out. And for the price to drop. To me it seems to be a little too expensive, for what it is.

[Txmmy83]

To me it seems to be a little too expensive, for what it is.

I think the Price is justified since you get both FSX&FS9 Version in one Package

BR
Tom

[Boomer]

While I am not a fan of the Kiowa I will probably get it if it is well done.

How about some shots of the VC?

[Txmmy83]

How about some shots of the VC?

their are few VC shots on product site follow the link in first post of this topic


BR
Tom

[Boomer]

I saw those, staged shots & none from the pilots perspective.

User screen shots are usually very different.

[flaviossa]

I´ll post more tonight (With VC shots) when i get home :salute:

[djscoo]

The only thing holding me back on this one is the area behind the pedals...shouldn't that be transparent instead of untextured grey?

[MCDesigns]

I LIKE it!! Great textures, little details, animated pilots, easy on the frames, plenty of variations on the models and the sound is different (no idea what it's supposed to sound like, but I like it). The VC is good, nothing spectacular, but good textures and believable (would have liked a crew member in the VC, oh well)
The only thing I have any issue with is the rotor animation, a bit slower than expected, but I have seen worse. I believe the modeler is the same guy that does the military helis for Abacus, but obviously he has taken the detail up a few notches.

Nice to have this one for flying around Afghanistan! :ernae:

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4963/38663969.jpg

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/240/57252459.jpg

[flaviossa]

Hello!
Here i´m again! As a friend above asked, here are more screens of it. With more details of the VC. As i said before, it´s a very good model but for fun not for simulation. I can confirm now, the vc has little options, there´s no way to start the engines besides ctr+shift+f4. Also noticed that the power off sound is strange with an abruptuos cut in it. But i must say that when i bought it i was not expecting a "simulation machine". I´m just saying it in here for you guys that it can be a little disappointing for the ultra-power-simmers-boys!!!
OBs: I didn´t know that war machines like this has "No smoking sign" (Red marked) ... Imagine if the pilot´s pants catch fire and he triggers a helfire by mistake ... :icon_lol:

But ... i like it!!!:pop4:

[Boomer]

Thanks guys,

It does look nice. I think I will get it this evening.

[WarHorse47]

Hmm....

I just made a purchase. Now what? No automatic download. Do I wait for an e-mail or something?? No instructions on the site to tell you what to expect.

--WH

[MCDesigns]

Hmm....

I just made a purchase. Now what? No automatic download. Do I wait for an e-mail or something?? No instructions on the site to tell you what to expect.

--WH

I purchased from the Flightsim store since I have purchased from there before. Got an instant d/l, but had to wait for a serial number in my email to install, took about half an hour.

[WarHorse47]

I purchased from the Flightsim store since I have purchased from there before. Got an instant d/l, but had to wait for a serial number in my email to install, took about half an hour.Thanks, Michael. I guess I could have done that. Nuts. I order mine right from the Area 51 site. Since their offices are in Turkey and China, I may have a wait.

--WH

[djscoo]

Thanks, Michael. I guess I could have done that. Nuts. I order mine right from the Area 51 site. Since their offices are in Turkey and China, I may have a wait.

--WH
I just did the same thing...have you gotten anything from them yet?

[flaviossa]

I bought from their site too. Sent them the paypal data of the purchase thru the support email and recieved my serial in less them 1 hour later.

[djscoo]

All's well! I'm used to instantaneous links, but I just got mine via email. :ernae:

[WarHorse47]

I just did the same thing...have you gotten anything from them yet?Yes. It took about an hour. I also registered for their forum, but have not received verification yet. A little concerning since their site indicates 24/7 support. Oh well.

I do have the Kiowa now, and its a nice little a/c. Not much of a manual, however. I'm still trying to figure out how to set the HSI directions for heading and Nav point.

--WH

[Carbine1]

Looks good to me guys, some nice shots of it as well.

Cheers.

[djscoo]

This is a great chopper! The screenshots on the website are off-putting, but I'm glad I got it. I took it on a short flight, and of course my joystick started malfunctioning due to a Coca-Cola bath it took a few weeks ago...but I liked what I saw. Hopefully my new stick gets here soon!

[kilo delta]

Sorry for the thread resurrection, but this seemed the most appropriate place for my question. :)

Has anyone merged the Area51 Kiowa external model with the Dodosim 206 vc, FDE and possibly all/most working systems, or is this possible?

Edit: btw I know that the 206 and Kiowa cockpits are radically different IRL, just thought it'd be nice to have the Kiowa externals with the Dodosim internals/systems. ;)