GEX Europe has been released!

[papab]

On their Forums:

http://www.simforums.com/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=32256

And they are offering a 30 Day 15% off discount coupon for owners of GEX USA/Canada!

Now that's a great gift!!!!!!

[JamesChams]

Thanks, Rick "papab"!:ernae:

[Nick C]

If anybody finds the product page, can you let me know please because I can't find any reference to it on their website.

Edit: I was too hasty, I see the product page is coming later.

[papab]

If anybody finds the product page, can you let me know please because I can't find any reference to it on their website.


Click on the link in the first post...They have the download links posted on that thread..

Rick

Download is real slooooooow right now

[Roger]

Shame,
3 downloads have now stopped at 2%. I think we'll have to wait a while.

[papab]

Shame,
3 downloads have now stopped at 2%. I think we'll have to wait a while.

I got the first part like a snap!
Had to stop the 1.65 G download--way to slow

Will try later tonight
Nick posted they are going to add more servers...
Rick

[bkeske]

Great news, *attempting* to download now...but yes, it is slow.

[JamesChams]

You'll have fun... I'll still have to wait till tonight/tomorrow.:jump:
But, I'm getting this for sure. :wavey:

[papab]

You'll have fun... I'll still have to wait till tonight/tomorrow.:jump:
But, I'm getting this for sure. :wavey:


Download is now zipping along at 1.05MB/sec

Only 25 minutes left!!

[Roger]

Mine keeps stopping at under 200 meg. I think I'll forget it for now.

[IanP]

I want screenshots before I even consider it...

...and to be paid, which means there'll probably be screenshots available by then. :icon_lol:

[papab]

Mine keeps stopping at under 200 meg. I think I'll forget it for now.

I was able to download the alternate site

[papab]

I want screenshots before I even consider it...

...and to be paid, which means there'll probably be screenshots available by then. :icon_lol:


Here are some shots from the United Kingdom

[NickN]

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http://www.simforums.com/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=26352&PID=184251#184251 (http://www.simforums.com/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=26352&PN=20)



[URL]http://www.simforums.com/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=26352&PID=184285#184285


http://www.simforums.com/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=26352&PID=184525#184525



http://www.simforums.com/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=26352&PID=185059#185059



http://www.simforums.com/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=26352&PID=185158#185158

[JamesChams]

Thanks, Mr. Nick N. and GEX Team!

Downloaded it last night (both files) in less than 15 min's. :mixedsmi:
:wavey:

[papab]

Thanks, Mr. Nick N. and GEX Team!

Downloaded it last night (both files) in less than 15 min's. :mixedsmi:
:wavey:

Have you flown over Europe yet?

Amazing....

Rick

[JamesChams]

Have you flown over Europe yet?

Amazing....

RickI real life and in the sim the answer is YES!

But, I'll have to install GEX-EU this morning and try it out. Must have breakfast first :birthday2.

BTW: Nice Pic.'s, Mr. Rick "Papab"! :applause:

[Lewis-A2A]

Can we have a few more UK shots please, looks v good

[letsgetrowdy]

Can we have a few more UK shots please, looks v good


Here, here, Bring em on!!!

[bkeske]

I'm slewing all over the place right now, and as should have been expected, a great job.

I highly recommend Cloud9's Europe landclass to really bring it out. Scenery Tech's Europe landclass does a better jobs in some remote areas, but Cloud9 still shines overall.

A great improvement, and great product. Well done by Nick and company. :applause:

[grunau_baby]

I´m sold! Finally something to really pimp up my FSX-Europe flying! Those city-textures look superb!

Download allright, now I only have to find a quiet moment to install and enjoy!

Alex

[papab]

Really enjoying GEX-E....

[bushpilot]

Judging by the screenies this is hands down the best looking terrain addon. The "3d" effect looks great:engel016:

[papab]

Judging by the screenies this is hands down the best looking terrain addon. The "3d" effect looks great:engel016:


Did you get it yet?

If you have GEX USA/Canada they are offering a 15% discount for 30 days...

Rick

[bushpilot]

Nope, not yet. I'm on the fence since I very rarely fly in Europe in FSX, reason being the lack of good bush flying areas. I'd be interested to know how Finnish Lapland (=tundra) looks like with GEX EU.

[papab]

Nope, not yet. I'm on the fence since I very rarely fly in Europe in FSX, reason being the lack of good bush flying areas. I'd be interested to know how Finnish Lapland (=tundra) looks like with GEX EU.


I will snap some shots for you

[papab]

Cold!!!!

[papab]

Nope, not yet. I'm on the fence since I very rarely fly in Europe in FSX, reason being the lack of good bush flying areas. I'd be interested to know how Finnish Lapland (=tundra) looks like with GEX EU.


Couple of shots -Northern Finland next to Sweden...

First one is summer and the rest are current time..
Rick

[bushpilot]

Thanks, much appreciated:icon29::ernae:

[ICDP]

Got it, not impressed, don't like it at all. What's with all the spotty textures, everything looks like it is has very large, low res spots.

[papab]

Got it, not impressed, don't like it at all. What's with all the spotty textures, everything looks like it is has very large, low res spots.


Suggest you post over here and ask Nick for assistance...
http://www.simforums.com/forums/forum_topics.asp?FID=38

[bushpilot]

Got it, not impressed, don't like it at all. What's with all the spotty textures, everything looks like it is has very large, low res spots.

I suspect it's the issue of FSX default blending mask. It has nothing to do with GEX.

Check this thread for explanation: http://www.simforums.com/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=23671
(http://www.simforums.com/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=23671)

[ICDP]

It is nothing to do with the blendmap or FSX, the screenshots from others show the same thing. The textures have a large grain look about them by default, I think the GEX guys are trying to give a 3D look to the textures. IMHO they don't look realistic.

Each to their own, you and everyone else thinks they are great thats OK with me. This is a discussion forum and we are all free to give our opinion, neither is right or wrong.

[CG_1976]

I dont know about all you but i have FTX AU Red and lost my Desert after installing GEX EU. MY GEX US/Can never did that. But Ireland looks nicer then it did.

[ICDP]

I dont know about all you but i have FTX AU Red and lost my Desert after installing GEX EU. MY GEX US/Can never did that. But Ireland looks nicer then it did.

Did you make sure to turn FTX mode to off?

[CG_1976]

Did you make sure to turn FTX mode to off?

That was the 1st thing i did. According to FTX as im SP3 FTX Red/Green and have the Central mode I shouldnt have to although. Does GEX Euro contain any LC by chance?

[Cazzie]

No problem here getting it last night. Lovely stuff, great textures down low now too. Good work GEX-E crew. :applause:

Caz

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y168/cazmodel/nord_gex_1.jpg

[JamesChams]

Gents,

I thought that I'd shed some light into this discussion ...

This (Pic. attached) is taken from the Installation USER Interface (Left) and User Manual (Right):

Hope this helps! :wavey:

PS: All the screenshots look awesome, Gents!:applause:

And, Mr. "NickN" and GEX-EU team - Thanks for the 15% discount (for GEX US/CA Users) and another amazing product.:applause: Looking forward to the rest of FSX being covered by GEX/UTX. ;)

[MudMarine]

Why won't to allow me to install the second options of ugrade textures. It says it can't locate the GEX euro install, which makes no sense.......or does it? Confused.

[Steve Halpern]

I think that should be UTX Europe, or Ultimate Terrain X Europe, which means it cannot find Ultimate Terrain X Europe in its proper location in FSX... or if UTX Europe installed, it could mean you have an orphaned install of FSX and things are crossed in the settings.

[Roger]

I'm going to leave it on for a week and see how I feel then. There's clearly been a great deal of time, effort and beta testing on the product but at the end of the day, colour preferences are very personal.
At low level (500') the 3d effect looks similar to the "dappled" FsX standard effect in woodland (which I detest at low level). The summer green seems to be almost monotone shades of the same base colour and August is my favorite time of the year for my low and slow flying preference.
One problem I have is that after install and running through the set up procedures I had a BSOD (overclocking related) and had to use a restore point prior to GEXE installation which left me with the textures installed but no set-up .exe. I reinstalled but now the set-up wants to create a backup over my previous backup. This will overwrite my true backup with GEXE textures so I may have to do a manual reinstall if I decide to go back to default. However I don't know where all the textures belong? Scenery/world/textures seems the most common but I really don't know. This could end up being the cock-up of the year for me, needing a reinstall of FsX and if I had to do that I might just give flightsim a rest for a while.
Screenshot...

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/GEXE-1.jpg

[SpaceWeevil]

I was quite tempted until I came across this over at AVSIM..

With no landclass installed Europe will be far less correct and very bland due to poor texture layout. The default landclass is very poorly defined which is why we suggest UTX and another 3rd party LC such as SceneryTech be installed.

I wonder if this is why some people are disappointed while others are ecstatic?

[MudMarine]

I think that should be UTX Europe, or Ultimate Terrain X Europe, which means it cannot find Ultimate Terrain X Europe in its proper location in FSX... or if UTX Europe installed, it could mean you have an orphaned install of FSX and things are crossed in the settings.

Yup UTX. Installing all my other programs hasn't been a problem. As far as I know it isn't "orphaned". If it is orphaned then I would probably need to re-install FSX?

[Steve Halpern]

Roger, the option to skip the backup is there. You will see that in the interface when you start it. Then it will not ask you the second time around.

MudMarine... if you indeed have UTX Europe installed, you may need to reinstall it (you would not need to reinstall FSX). Make sure your path to FSX is correct in the settings screen also.

And do not forget to visit the GEX forum at http://www.simforums.com/forums/forum_topics.asp?FID=38. Nick and others can provide a lot of information or answers there.

[Steve Halpern]

Weevil - yes, products with landclass will improve the variety, such as Ultimate Terrain X Europe or SceneryTech Europe (we have these), and there are others there also (I think Cloud9 and XClass). But even without landclass the difference should be quite apparent.

Nick covers all these in detail at http://www.simforums.com/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=32261. There is a lot of information here.

[Cazzie]

And make sure that both GEX and UTX are keyed to the proper folders.

I have excellent landclass via UTX-Europe.

Dover, still wish someone could correct get the cliffs white though.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y168/cazmodel/dover.jpg

Chunnel - Calais: Wondered what this was until I dialed it in on Google Earth, fantastic. :icon_lol:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y168/cazmodel/chunnel_calais.jpg

Caz

[Steve Halpern]

Looks as though autogen is completely turned off. You can actually up your sliders with GEX as it handles autogen in a somewhat different way.

[IanHenry]

I'm a little disappointed with the textures in GEX Europe. Southern Europe looks good, but northern areas look like a combination of the mottled effect and the landscape looks to have white blobs everywhere as though it's 1/2 covered in snow (at least in Scotland in the fall) I also use UTX Europe. I think the "3D" effect looks to large and that on the fields you would find farmers and their tractors being lost for ever!
I'm sure that future updates will address some of those problems, I'm particularly concerned with the "1/2 snow "look.
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[NickN]

We posted a test patch for the airport pads at the top of the GEX forum.. some found the ground zero pad look at airports was a bit hard on the eyes so we softened them up to appear a bit smoother. The v1 patch is softer but retains the harder colors where the v2 patch we softened both color and contrast

anyway, once we get enough feedback and possibly make a few more adjustments we will have a full patch available in the UPDATES section of the GEX EU interface


GEX is not photoscenery.. its textures, and its designed to be used with autogen for a reason. Without autogen you wont get the feel or the effect the textures are designed to provide. Here are some shots from EBOS (summer) and EGLL which are Fall in mid October

http://www.flightsimworld.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=179545&st=0&p=2227915&#entry2227915

http://www.flightsimworld.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=179545&st=0&p=2227915&#entry2227927

autogen makes a world of difference and we planned it that way. We also fixed the autogen tree issue with FSX that hits perf like a ton of bricks that will expand from Europe into North America and most are telling us they can now increase their AG slider a notch as compared to default


Cliffs of Dover - are covered with the same rock texture as the Alps however we did take that into account and worked in some of the limestone white to try and give the cliffs a whiter look. Pure white is not possible unless a custom scenery model is made and covered in custom textures just like its not possible to make the Grand Canyon in the USA look right without a complete custom scenery addition.


as for snow.. we have NO control over where/when/how that appears, and it shows the same way in default

GEX is not a landclass or a season.bgl file.. its textures with a autogen layout

UTX is a landclass, SceneryTech is a landclass.. those files tell the sim what textures to land on the mesh and where

The snow is the seasons.bgl file in FSX and its very poorly designed. The Fall season, although date and time may say its fall, stops showing fall textures after October 31st and in some places as soon as October 7th-15th. Again, thats the FSX season file and we may look at editing it some time down the road but its not part of our scope of work in texture/autogen replacement.


and last.. yes, this is a new way of making textures and we expected it may take some people time to get use to them visually. Some may not like it, most probably will if they give it a chance and not judge it on first look. There is a lot of information in those tiles and its not just 'bumps'... those tiles are made to force the rendering engine to do things flat, bland, hazy textures wont and after a few good flights I think most will see what we did and why. We are planning on upgrading textures in patches as we update the product and complete other areas too. Textures are shared in FSX between regions and there are changes we would like to make as well that will upgrade the Europe product.


:ernae:

[ICDP]

Thanks Roger, dappled is a great way to describe the look I am refering too. IMHO (based on real photos and what I see every day with my own eyes) the 'dappled' effect is too heavy in GEX Europe, it just doesn't look realistic.

When I am flying around in Ireland and the UK I don't think wow, I think bleh, looks like lumpy puke. Thanks for all the screenshots proving my point guys. Thanks Cazzie, those screens you posted show exactly how poor GEX Europe looks. Everything looks so subdued and monochrome, even the browns have a green look to them. That dappled effect is just so wrong, they tried to make it look 3D but instead it looks like everything is made up of large dots.

[bushpilot]

Thanks Roger, dappled is a great way to describe the look I am refering too. IMHO (based on real photos and what I see every day with my own eyes) the 'dappled' effect is too heavy in GEX Europe, it just doesn't look realistic.

When I am flying around in Ireland and the UK I don't think wow, I think bleh, looks like lumpy puke. Thanks for all the screenshots proving my point guys. Thanks Cazzie, those screens you posted show exactly how poor GEX Europe looks. Everything looks so subdued and monochrome, even the browns have a green look to them. That dappled effect is just so wrong, they tried to make it look 3D but instead it looks like everything is made up of large dots.

F1 has a generous 30 day money back guarantee.

[NickN]

As mentioned, F1 has the 30 day return policy

[ICDP]

Thanks guys, good to know I have that option.

[NickN]

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I am not sure if there is something wrong with monitor settings, color profiles, AA/filtering settings, etc however this is the Cliffs of Dover area on my system in Winter, Summer, Fall and Spring





When autogen is used it becomes quite obvious the relief that is shown, which is usually a crop in a field, is quite in scale with the autogen.


I had UTX running as well as SceneryTech LC layered with UTX for the veg LC and it was also enabled. The only thing different I did with UTX was disable UTX roads in the scenery library because unless I need them for VFR (especially at night) I dont use them that often.








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[Cazzie]

Fantastic shots Nick.

I was capturing video when I did those screens and I always turn off Auto-gen to increase frame rates. At altitude, FSX looks better without Auto-gen IMHO, the terrain textures and bumps are good enough.

Caz

[IanHenry]

Thanks for replying Nick,
as I said in my earlier post, I'm confident that GEX Europe will get better as the updates come out.
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[papab]

Couple More..

[IanP]

I may be wrong, but it looks to me like the "dappling" effect is caused by a slightly overzealous bump map as it looks very similar to what happened when I put bumps on my grass textures for incredibly-simple-scenery-object-#1.

I can't say I'm overly fond of it from screenshots, but to see Britain green again, I could be tempted.

[jankees]

Looking at the screenshots, I think I'm going to give it a miss.
While it looks a whole lot better than default, it still looks a bit too unnatural to me. I can't really put my finger on what is wrong, but it does not feel right. Could be the colors, could be the texture layout, or a combination, but I have not yet seen a single convincing screenshot.
Somehow, FTX Australia looks more convincing, so I guess I'll stay down under for now.

[Mobayrasta]

I absolutely love it. I think the textures are top notch!

[Roger]

As long as you have good landclass and the freeware autumn texture pack why leave these textures behind?

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/defaulttextures.jpg

[Roger]

I do like the very dark, summer trees in Nick's screenshots. Where are they from, they're not default?

[Euroflyer]

From the screenshots I have seen I am disappointed at how default this GEX_EU looks, the colour just looks fake/wrong

Cheers
Euroflyer

[papab]

As long as you have good landclass and the freeware autumn texture pack why leave these textures behind?

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/defaulttextures.jpg

What a fantastic shot!!!!!!

[Steve Halpern]

Yes, great shot!

I can almost feel the air.

[SpaceWeevil]

As long as you have good landclass and the freeware autumn texture pack why leave these textures behind?

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/defaulttextures.jpg

Now I'm well confused - best looking screenshot in the whole thread (by a mile) and that's not GEX? I have bought it to try because a) Nick N is a sort of benign FSX god and b) you can't say fairer than a 30-day money back guarantee, but so far I'm slightly struggling to see the advantages. I'm hoping it will grow on me.

[CC_17]

makes one wonder.................. :monkies:

[some1]

I have bought it to try because a) Nick N is a sort of benign FSX god and b) you can't say fairer than a 30-day money back guarantee, but so far I'm slightly struggling to see the advantages. I'm hoping it will grow on me.

Same as me. While it may be the best texture/autogen set avaliable for Europe (especially urban and night), I'm not really sure if the difference between this and some freeware textures I had installed previously is worth 45$ to me. Still, I have 26 days to make a decision :)

[grunau_baby]

As with many replacement textures GEX is also very much dependant on the individual and personal likes or dislikes of the user. They do IMHO really stand out compared to the default stuff, though the sharpened - mock high reslution look - might turn off certain users.

The textures really shine in urban areas and the winter textures are great. Whereas the dotty grass on airfields is a bit disturbing. Together with some decent landclass the overall look is good, though - even though I like it - I would not go as far as saying this IS Europe as it is in reallity.
But then this is no photoscenery and landclass based textures and autogen can only be limited as to create realistic scenery! You get a pretty good new look if you do not expect miracles.

Great work so far, but there´s potential for updates, too IMHO.

Regards
Alex

[GBrutus]

Where would I find the freeware autumn textures?

[Bjoern]

Avsim, search term: "Adam Mills".

Still undecided whether to get GEX or not.

[GBrutus]

Thanks, Bjoern.

[Bjoern]

No problem.

[IanP]

My problem is going to remain. Neither Adam Mills, nor from what I've seen (admittedly limited) GEX, offer what I want, which is compact European-type villages.

The farms have got better over time, but the villages and towns are still far too open plan, buildings too far apart. However, until such time as I can learn how to make my own textures to generate landclass off, I guess I'm stuck with what I have.

[Steve Halpern]

I think Ultimate Terrain X Europe does address villages. GEX of course will vary based on the landclass (default or 3rd party). In UTX, since you have roads and intersections, and landclass, you should get more accurate village representations.

[alpine]

No,Steve UTX doesn`t help at all with the small villages, if you`re familar with a specific landscape and you follow the roads, it is even more obvious, that your "town" does not exist, just strawn autogen...

Cheers, Thilo

[Roger]

Urban areas are greatly improved by GEX Europe, that is without doubt! For those who fly a little higher than I do usually it is without doubt a great asset. I wish I could mix textures but that would probably result in a fubar-ed FsX.

[IanP]

That's not intended to be a snipe at GEX, Steve - UTX does a great deal to help with the placement of towns - for example I can see the village I used to live in (it's actually a small town, but still a village for political reasons) called Wombourne in Staffordshire, using UTX. Wombourne is blended together with Wolverhampton, Dudley, Stourbridge and the rest of the West Midlands using default or most replacement landclass products.

It just doesn't look at all like Wombourne - everything is far too separated and there is far too much greenery between houses.

I've noticed the same when trying to do sceneries in Alaska and Newfoundland - the only landclass that gives the density of buildings within a small area is "suburban large city", but then you get tower blocks and big apartment buildings, when very few buildings in the place you are trying to represent are higher than two stories.

I feel I have to reiterate that this is not bashing any FS add-on product - they have to be a compromise covering all the different areas that the texture might appear in, but to date no-one has got it right in any shot I've seen, there's always too much grass and not enough roofing.

I've attached an aerial photo of a moderately typical rural English village that I tracked down in SBuilderX (it's actually Swindon, near Halfpenny Green airfield in South Staffordshire, if anyone is nosy enough to want to know). The only landclass texture that I can find that looks even close to this is LC_Large_City_Suburban_Grid_Wet - but that has the aforementioned tower blocks and large apartment blocks placed regularly around it... The highest building in Swindon is the pub at three stories. Not quite the same, if you see what I mean?

[NickN]

You guys who want "REAL" Europe need every sq-mi covered in Photoscenery, that all there is to it.. because the default designed FSX textures/landclass system can not and never will allow the wide open spaces Photoscenery does..


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I have also seen shots that take advantage of the hidden elements in the textures using the ENB Light bloom addon

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[kimdahl]

Hi Nick

I am sorry but I have to diagree with you. In my opinion the GEX textures really ARE far too grainy. It is not just a matter of someone not treating their screenshots correctly. What I have seen in various screenshots is very true to the appearance of GEX in the "real life" sim environment. They have this "pointilistic" feel about them and there is too much contrast. This may have been done to obtain the "3D effect from a certain altitude, but it just doesn't look right.

Furthermore there are large portions of almost white in many parts, not just the grass pads, but also in the textures representing fields. This may have been a compromise to try to get closer to the look of southern Europe, but it certainly doesn't look anything like the fields in Denmark or the UK.

I know that your team has spent a lot of time creating these textures, and I was really looking forward to a great FSX improvement with GEX, but right now I am not sure if I am going to keep it at all. Sorry...

Regards
Kim Dahl

[NickN]

Thats why there is a 30 day return policy.. and just an FYI, we are addressing issues as they come up including the pads as we already have a patch close to being released on those

We knew when we made this a lot of people would try to compare the hazy typical textures seen in MSFS for a long time and sometimes new things, even with adjustments over time,.. just dont work for some..

Just like to me.. the image posted http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/defaulttextures.jpg by Roger looks like a hazy colored pencil cartoon

Thats how FSX textures have been made in the past and that is not to say those textures are bad.. not at all. Everyone will have their own taste.

We are discussing releasing an alternate more relaxed set too.. as I said, we are addressing the feedback we get.

[Roger]

Here's a better one...

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/idr-1.jpg

[Hotdog65]

Just like to me.. the image posted http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y203/rogera/defaulttextures.jpg by Roger looks like a hazy colored pencil cartoon

Thats how FSX textures have been made in the past and that is not to say those textures are bad.. not at all. Everyone will have their own taste.

Hello Nick,

I disagree that the textures in that image looks like a "hazy colored pencil cartoon" To my eyes they are sharp, crisp & very lifelike, in fact, almost a photo. The comments from several other posters seem to back me up on that perception.

And speaking of textures, your recent claims of what GEX's textures can do are sounding more like snake oil every day. I mean really, you expect people to believe claims such as "cloud shadow ready" and the mysterious sounding "hidden elements" that the ENB Light bloom addon will bring out and last but not least "photo sensitive" textures. I'd like you to explain what you mean by that and the special tech that makes them "photo sensitive"

At best these claims are highly spurious and your hard won reputation in the sim community is in my eyes on a slippery slope downwards the more you make them.

The only believable claim I have read so far is "2D enhancements produce simulated 3D depth" which, I'm sad to say, is what I dislike the most about the textures.

[NickN]

Hello Nick,

I disagree that the textures in that image looks like a "hazy colored pencil cartoon" To my eyes they are sharp, crisp & very lifelike, in fact, almost a photo. The comments from several other posters seem to back me up on that perception.

And speaking of textures, your recent claims of what GEX's textures can do are sounding more like snake oil every day. I mean really, you expect people to believe claims such as "cloud shadow ready" and the mysterious sounding "hidden elements" that the ENB Light bloom addon will bring out and last but not least "photo sensitive" textures. I'd like you to explain what you mean by that and the special tech that makes them "photo sensitive"

At best these claims are highly spurious and your hard won reputation in the sim community is in my eyes on a slippery slope downwards the more you make them.

The only believable claim I have read so far is "2D enhancements produce simulated 3D depth" which, I'm sad to say, is what I dislike the most about the textures.


Hello... Hotdog

I do not have to explain in the open techniques that are our method of design, just as other developers do not have to explain how they create their product.

I will say, that if we do offer a more 'relaxed set' of textures those will not be as sensitive to environment changes

What you are posting is not feedback, it is a personal attack.

With 1 Post and the content of that post I am sure Hotdog you have an axe to grind.. Grind it well

[Hotdog65]

No axe to grind here Nick and I don't see my comments as a personal attack per se. You just copped a healthy dose of scepticism and my extreme dislike of product hype is all.

I see you don't care to expand further on my questions so I will leave it at that.

[CG_1976]

Ah ever since I installed GEX Euro my UTX for US/Can/Euro is messed up. I managed to fix the FTX issues with my Red Zone and Green but how do I fix my UTX please.

[NickN]

CG 1976

I would need specific information about what you are seeing that is "messed up" If you would post the problem over at the GEX forum Anthony or I will be glad to assist.

[Steve Halpern]

Hotdog - a fast approach talking about slipery slopes is not really an inviting way to develop friendly discussion. And I do want to add that not using your real name does not help either.

CG - Post in the GEX support forum, and maybe post some pictures there. There are possibly some settings that need adjusting. There is a good configuration thread there.

[NickN]

CG As I posted above, I would need to know the issue and possibly see an image. We do not alter any UTX landclass files for the USA and only change the road night lighting for USA with the EU product. however since you mentioned FTX if you are talking about the Gable Roof showing on flat roof tops, please see this post: http://www.simforums.com/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=32331

[CG_1976]

I have no water around Victoria Canada CYYJ. UTX entries are positioned just above the Addon scenery.

[NoNewMessages]

I have no water around Victoria Canada CYYJ. UTX entries are positioned just above the Addon scenery.

Start your UTX Setup Tool and let it check for the necessary Terrain.cfg file entries. You don't need to modify anything in UTX, just start the tool, wait a short bit and then exit. Start FSX and see if things are back to normal.

[NickN]

I have no water around Victoria Canada CYYJ. UTX entries are positioned just above the Addon scenery.

I just verifed for you here...



http://gex.flight1.net/cyyj1.jpg




http://gex.flight1.net/cyyj2.jpg



UTX is working fine at CYYJ so there must be some kind of glitch in the UTX install itself as GEX wont cause this problem. As was mentioned above please open the UTX config tool and let it verify and write the entries to the terrain.cfg.

There is a complete UTX install/patch list posted at the end of the FSX tuning thread here:


http://www.simforums.com/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=29041


When you install UTX you must be sure to patch UTX correctly and start the interface between patches as listed



.

[CG_1976]

Ok after 4 hours of the old wise Fs9 process of elimination in the FSX Scenery lib. Yellowknife with Slave lake is there, Green Bay with its bay and Ireland has water, however not victoria Island+. Vic+ has a config panel that went nuts. So i'll uninstall and reinstall to see if that fixes it. Also in the US/Canada should GEX Euro Textures be effecting there Airport backround ? I have GEX US/Can active before install of new GEX and manual says wiat for the 1.09 update until then use euro panel just to confirm.

[CG_1976]

Ok dug up the Vic+ exe from OzX and we have water.

[NickN]

Airport background.. do you mean the airport pad or grass surface? Yes, GEX Europe changes the grass pad and we are aware of some issues with those and are making a patch for them. We posted a temp patch here: http://www.simforums.com/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=32316

Select the v2 patch please. We are still working on them but the V2 patch will correct the majority of the hard texture issue until we release a official replacement

As for water around CVVJ, GEX will not effect that or any of the other textures, other than trees, which we upgraded.

[NickN]

Ok dug up the Vic+ exe from OzX and we have water.


GREAT to hear!!! :jump:


As posted above.. if you find the airport pads a bit hard on the eyes at zero elevation, please install the v2 Pad patch we posted

We are working on a official release of those pads so the patch will work for now

Since you are all fixed up I need to get some sleep.. so glad you got it fixed!



.

[CG_1976]

Thank you Nickn and Team for your Assit and excellent GEX Euro. Its made Europe much better of a experiance and no more desert. Just wahat the Fs Dr. ordered. Thank you

[IanP]

Once you've had some sleep, Nick, I think I might have failed to get across what I was trying to say regarding North European settlements. It's not about exact replicas, it's about representations - which is exactly what landclass and autogen do, as far as I am concerned.

Northern Europe doesn't have big spaces (or, normally, any space at all!) between houses. You drive into a village, you go past buildings, with possibly the odd break where a building used to be, a farm which used to be on the edge of the village or a football field/cricket pitch/village green, then more buildings, then back into countryside. The density of population is as great as FSX landclass textures show high population urban areas to be, but the buildings are two story rather than tower blocks.

Like I said, no-one has successfully captured that - it certainly isn't a fault specific to GEX, just something that no-one seems to recreate for whatever reason (because the landclass isn't unique to Northern Europe, I suspect, and would be out of place elsewhere). Unfortunately without being able to create an entirely new "North European Suburban" landclass type, I don't know how it can be resolved, which is why I am expressing it on a thread where people might know of a possible solution, not because I want to put what you have done down.

Hopefully that doesn't make what I'm trying to say even less transparent? I'll shut up now anyway. This is a GEX thread. :ernae:

[NickN]

Understood!

Ian, the main problem is the landclass and the lack or poor definition of zones FSX has in its default system.

When you are dealing with a system that uses a texture as a primary for Greece, then uses the same texture for spots in Switzerland, France, Germany, Scotland, Norway.. it makes for quite a job to deliver something that demanding.

We have a patch going up later today. v1.01 which will address a lot more than pads.

and there will be more to follow in v1.02 after the first of the year.

[UnknownGuest12]

Feel a bit dumb, but what is and where can I get landclass?
Realy want to buy GEX Europe to get some improvement over here, but need some help...
Got REX, is it compatible? and landclass should be installed prior to GEX Europe?
Do you People think it's worth the price?
Regards and many thanks

[papab]

Feel a bit dumb, but what is and where can I get landclass?
Realy want to buy GEX Europe to get some improvement over here, but need some help...
Got REX, is it compatible? and landclass should be installed prior to GEX Europe?
Do you People think it's worth the price?
Regards and many thanks

Here is a link from a posting that NICK N put on their forum explaining Landclass
http://www.simforums.com/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=24965

Go get Ultimate Terrain Europe and GEX-Europe

Get UT here:http://www.flight1.com/products.asp?product=utxeurope

Another good product is SceneryTech
Here: http://www.scenerytech.com/


They have (under the products/landclass tab) an FAQ section that will answer a lot of your questions
You will be amazed how the look changes

[SpaceWeevil]

GEX is definitely growing on me - this is installed over UTX. LOD and mesh detail are max, scenery very dense, autogen dense and a bit of good old English haze. These shots are all in Dorset between Compton Abbas and Bournemouth. I've never liked the UTX roads and streams! Frames with dense autogen are about the same as the stock textures with it set to normal, so GEX seems to go one notch better as stated. It is stuttering a bit though, something I'd almost completely cured.

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[NickN]

--



The 1.01 GEX Europe patch is LIVE in your GEX Europe interface.

http://www.simforums.com/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=32348


Have a great weekend everyone! To everyone on both sides of the pond :ernae:

(love that last shot above)

Make sure you shut moving traffic down in the UTX tool.. its the only way to take the car footprint off FSX even with car slider set to zero in FSX. UTX addresses car traffic somewhat even if the sider is set to zero

[JamesChams]

Thanks Mr. Nick N. and Team!
I know your doing your best to meet everyone's expectations and do it right; I appreciate that! :wavey:

[UnknownGuest12]

Unable to download..,got "recovering from error, retrying in 30 seconds" twice at about 1 GB...
No problem with Ultimate Terrain Europe wich I previously downloaded.
Any ideas?
Thanks, regards

[Lotus]

As someone who spends about 95% percent of his FSX time torquing through the Alps, and usually between the trees, I've been eagerly awaiting this release. Bought (and patched) last night and can't stop gawking. Fantastic work! Just *lovely*.

Thanks,

-Mike

[Dimus]

I have posted this on Simforums but wish to repeat it here.

I can understand why some people might get discouraged by some screenshots posted. However, the screenshots only, do not give full justice to these textures. One has to experience their lighting effects dynamically in the sim. After all a monye back policy is offered if one is not satisfied.

I am mostly interested in my home country and after a few flights I can say that I am totally satisfied. A good landclass for one's area of interest is a must. I have UTX which seems to work well for Greece.

I took a flight yestersay from Sparta to Kalamata and took these shots. I chose an early morning time to examine the effects and shadows of the morning sun. Autogen is at 3/4 in these:

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii181/VDimus/fsx2009-11-2619-25-54-26.jpg

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii181/VDimus/fsx2009-11-2619-30-49-39.jpg

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii181/VDimus/fsx2009-11-2619-33-08-59.jpg

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii181/VDimus/fsx2009-11-2619-33-19-71.jpg

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii181/VDimus/fsx2009-11-2622-45-44-35.jpg

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii181/VDimus/fsx2009-11-2622-46-36-65.jpg

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii181/VDimus/fsx2009-11-2622-49-33-73.jpg

[IanHenry]

The update is a massive improvement, the fields still look a little small in Scotlan though!. Thanks Nick, I'm sure this product will just get better and better.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
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[arrowmaker]

Damn! Decisions, decisions. I was all set to purchase the FScene4X Total Pack, as the price is currently only around $40 US. Now after seeing these screenshots I may have to reconsider, especially as I have UTX - Europe installed.

Am I correct in assuming it's a case of one or the other, ie I can't have both FScene4X and GEX installed together because they essentially do the same thing?

[NickN]

unable to download..,got "recovering from error, retrying in 30 seconds" twice at about 1 gb...
No problem with ultimate terrain europe wich i previously downloaded.
Any ideas?
Thanks, regards


sorry for the caps.... key stuck

download from server 2 link.. See the gex forum top for the release post and alternate dl link

full version on the server includes the 1.01 patch

edit: noticed the forum fixes caps-lock issues

[NickN]

damn! Decisions, decisions. I was all set to purchase the fscene4x total pack, as the price is currently only around $40 us. Now after seeing these screenshots i may have to reconsider, especially as i have utx - europe installed.

Am i correct in assuming it's a case of one or the other, ie i can't have both fscene4x and gex installed together because they essentially do the same thing?


you can not use both and they can damage europe if you install the usa version of fscene because textures are shared
other areas of the world may also share with usa/europe therefore i can not tell you what say south america will do to europe but i know it will make some changes if they overwrite them all. what it comes down to is you will probably know right away if a fscene area takes out a europe texture. rerun the gex interface and install the gex versions after a fscene area install if it shows in the gex area

[NickN]

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very glad to hear this.. Ian

the update will pull a small portion of the dynamic response out of the textures but we found a way to retain enough whereby we could address your concerns and maintain what they must do technically by our standards

scotland is so beautiful in rw and very tough in fsx to deliver the look even with the payware lc's.. which is another reason we are considering a lc addon for gex users that allow us to trim the areas so they use the gex texture database better.

I like scotland with utx europe and scenerytech europe layered and enabled (st can be disabled in-game too) with utx but your likes may be different

please remember you share textures with your neighbors all over europe and we did try to give everyone something of their area to enjoy

we will be making changes to textures in v1.02 and have planned on trying to increase some fields but i do not know how much that will effect scotland directly till we go through the punchlist for that change


and one other thing too.. those textures you see in scotland that are usually found in the hills/mts there that have what appear as very a very thin dusting of snow on them in early winter?, those are used in the alps and up in norway/sweden. you are seeing the sim share textures and the only way to change that is through a custom lc. we had to make sure everyone was covered and in the process that required give-n-take so we went with a fine dusting on those instead of a hard covering of then. Winter textures start showing in the sim in northern EU on November 1st due to the season file.. hard winter (full snow) follows as the months progress and we have no control over that. We may look at the season file too in a patch.

enjoy

[rayharris51]

Unable to download..,got "recovering from error, retrying in 30 seconds" twice at about 1 GB...
No problem with Ultimate Terrain Europe wich I previously downloaded.
Any ideas?
Thanks, regards

Hi

First thanks to Nick and Anthony for their stunning effort for us folks in Europe. Hasn't done any harm to the US either. Advice to people still looking; dont look at the screen shots, get the package and use it. People who say stills don't do it justice are right. It's a totally immersive 3d experience.

I had exactly the same problem downloading from the cdn2 server where it kept stopping after 1,05Gb with a CRC file error. I just switched to their alternative Flight1 server and it downloaded fine.


Ray

[IanHenry]

Thanks Nick and Ant for you help addressing peoples problems. I appreciate that when you "push the boundaries" it's not always going to be immediately to everyone's taste, but as I said in my earlier post I have every confidence in yourselves and your product.
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[Dimus]

After lots of flying in Greece I decided to head north. Here I am in the fabulus Lionheart's Tailwind Trigear over the terrific springtime landscapes of Norway. Enjoy!

[papab]

Dimus
Fantastic shots....:applause::applause:
GEX E sure makes the sim a lot of fun!
Rick

[Cazzie]

Kudos Nick, got the patch downloaded this morning and installed. Then installed the 1.01 GEX -Europe textures and left with the wife while I defragged.

Just took a flight after I got back. I do like the way GEX does not interfere with the Auto-gen whatsoever, all trees, builds, roads, etc. are in place. You just made a great improvement better. :applause:

Now, a special favor for the GEX-team or some special scenery person, put the horse in Folkstone near the Chunnel! :icon_lol:

Caz

[wiltzei]

Dimus, could you share your HDR plugin config, please?

[Dimus]

Of course. I am still experimenting with it but the shots above were taken with the following:

[PROXY]
EnableProxyLibrary=0
InitProxyFunctions=0
ProxyLibrary=
[GLOBAL]
UseEffect=1
AlternativeDepth=1
AllowAntialias=1
BugFixMode=0
SkipShaderOptimization=0
QuadVertexBuffer=0
EnableShaders_3_0=1
UseMRTRendering=0
AdditionalConfigFile=enbseries2.ini
[EFFECT]
EnableBloom=1
EnableOcclusion=0
EnableReflection=0
EnableMotionBlur=0
EnableWater=0
EnableShadow=0
DepthBias=0
EnableDepthOfField=0
[INPUT]
KeyUseEffect=123
KeyBloom=120
KeyOcclusion=121
KeyReflection=122
KeyCombination=16
KeyScreenshot=44
KeyShadow=119
KeyWater=118
KeyShowFPS=106
[REFLECTION]
ReflectionPower=100
ChromePower=100
UseCurrentFrameReflection=1
ReflectionQuality=1
ReflectionSourceSpecular=50
ReflectionSourceTFactor=50
UseAdditiveReflection=1
ReflectionDepthBias=0
UseLowResReflection=1
ReflectionSinglePass=1
UseEnvBump=0
EnvBumpAmount=100
EnvBumpOffset=100
ReflectionFlip=0
[BLOOM]
BloomPowerDay=7
BloomFadeTime=1000
BloomConstantDay=1
BloomQuality=0
BloomScreenLevelDay=80
BloomCurveDay=0
BloomPowerNight=18
BloomConstantNight=2
BloomCurveNight=0
BloomScreenLevelNight=20
BloomAdaptationScreenLevel=40
BloomAdaptationMultiplier=50
BloomAllowOversaturation=1
BloomMaxLimit=100
[SSAO]
UseFilter=1
OcclusionQuality=2
FilterQuality=1
DarkeningLevel=30
BrighteningLevel=30
IlluminationLevel=30
AdditiveIlluminationLevel=30
UseAmbientOcclusion=1
UseIndirectLighting=1
FadeDistance=50
UseForAlphaTest=0
UseForAlphaBlend=0

[COLORCORRECTION]
DarkeningAmountDay=30
ScreenLevelDay=70
ScreenLevelNight=1
DarkeningAmountNight=15
GammaCurveDay=0
GammaCurveNight=-2
ColorSaturationDay=1
ColorSaturationNight=0
UsePaletteTexture=0
[WATER]
UseWaterDeep=0
WaterDeepness=20
WaterQuality=0
[SHADOW]
ShadowFadeStart=40
ShadowFadeEnd=80
ShadowAmountDay=100
ShadowAmountNight=30
ShadowScreenLevelDay=60
ShadowScreenLevelNight=20
ShadowQuality=1
UseShadowFilter=0
FilterQuality=2
ShadowBlurRange=30
[ENGINE]
ForceAnisotropicFiltering=0
MaxAnisotropy=8
ForceDisplayRefreshRate=0
DisplayRefreshRateHz=60
[MOTIONBLUR]
MotionBlurQuality=1
MotionBlurVelocity=0
MotionBlurRotation=0
[PERPIXELLIGHTING]
SpecularColorMin=0
SpecularColorMax=100
SpecularColorMultiplier=100
SpecularGlossinessMin=0
SpecularGlossinessMax=100
SpecularGlossinessMultiplier=100
[DEPTHOFFIELD]
DOFQuality=2
DOFNumberOfPasses=1
DOFFocusRange=50
DOFBlurinessRange=10

I am thiking of reducing the bloom effect a bit.

[Dimus]

A few more shots in Ireland on a flight from EIKN to EICM.



http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii181/VDimus/fsx2009-12-0315-54-18-49.jpg




http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii181/VDimus/fsx2009-12-0316-03-56-70.jpg

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii181/VDimus/fsx2009-12-0316-08-08-27.jpg

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii181/VDimus/fsx2009-12-0316-10-19-12.jpg



http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii181/VDimus/fsx2009-12-0316-13-23-96.jpg

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii181/VDimus/fsx2009-12-0316-13-41-53.jpg

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii181/VDimus/fsx2009-12-0316-16-23-61.jpg





http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii181/VDimus/fsx2009-12-0316-22-51-75.jpg

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii181/VDimus/fsx2009-12-0316-24-07-11.jpg

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii181/VDimus/fsx2009-12-0316-24-38-69.jpg

[Dimus]

A few shots from Wales. This flight started at Swansea and ended on a small field north of Cardiff:

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii181/VDimus/fsx2009-12-0410-35-08-78.jpg

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii181/VDimus/fsx2009-12-0412-46-53-96.jpg

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii181/VDimus/fsx2009-12-0412-50-59-72.jpg

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii181/VDimus/fsx2009-12-0412-51-35-84.jpg

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii181/VDimus/fsx2009-12-0413-09-47-19.jpg

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii181/VDimus/fsx2009-12-0413-10-31-60.jpg

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii181/VDimus/fsx2009-12-0413-12-05-78.jpg

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii181/VDimus/fsx2009-12-0413-15-25-48.jpg

[papab]

Fantastic shots!!

[guzler]

Hmmm,

All these screen shots are making this grow on me. lan for early 2010 - a new rig to enjoy smooth framerates and non blurry terrain on FSX !!!!

[Dimus]

I have a few freeware UK2000 airports and always felt that they were out of place colourwise with the default textures. I tried them out with GEX and I think they fit nicely now. Two first shots are from Old Warden and the next Middle Wallop and Nottingham. I am tempted now to buy the whole set.

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii181/VDimus/fsx2009-12-0512-07-06-85.jpg

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii181/VDimus/fsx2009-12-0512-11-18-89.jpg

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii181/VDimus/fsx2009-12-0512-21-32-50.jpg

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii181/VDimus/fsx2009-12-0512-26-37-27.jpg

[rohan]

Dimus,
those screenshots all look excellent - I particularly like the Old Warden shots. But, as I have not yet started using FSX, could someone please tell me if all scenery textures look like the last two shots in post 121 (Wales) ? I'm asking about the last two, taken at very low level, where the ground just looks like it's covered by a lot of smeared coloured blobs. Do all texture sets look like this when seen from this height, or is this the sort of problem mentioned by several people earlier in this thread ?
thanks in advance for any clarification / explanation,
regards,
Ro
:ernae:

[Dimus]

rohan,

The textures in the shots are GEX textures, not default FSX. The deafault FSX textures are shown on Roger's post (No61) I believe. GEX textures do have that appearance in order to give a 3d look which is actually light sensitive when seen from a height. In my opinion they are at their best from a height of 700ft and above, which is not that bad. However, their appearance in the sim is dynamic and can not be judged by screenshots only. You have to experience their performance live in the sim.

It's all a matter of personal taste and preference.

[some1]

But, as I have not yet started using FSX, could someone please tell me if all scenery textures look like the last two shots in post 121 (Wales) ?

Also keep in mind that Dimus uses a free mod that changes lighting in the sim. Stock FSX doesn't have colors,contrast and bloom as seen on these shots.

[Cazzie]

Some1,

Stock FSX has Bloom, but it's a frame hog, Vlad's Bloom mod doesn't eat frame rates and is adjustable, something else you cannot do with FSX's Bloom. It works in FS9 as well. In FSX, the effect is too dark in the default settings. Here's the download link: http://speedskater.ru/download/arccv...e_for_MSFS.rar (http://speedskater.ru/download/arccvid/EMBserie_for_MSFS.rar)

The update made GEX-E even better.

Caz

[some1]

Some1,

Stock FSX has Bloom, but it's a frame hog, Vlad's Bloom mod doesn't eat frame rates and is adjustable, something else you cannot do with FSX's Bloom. It works in FS9 as well. In FSX, the effect is too dark in the default settings. Here's the download link: http://speedskater.ru/download/arccv...e_for_MSFS.rar (http://speedskater.ru/download/arccvid/EMBserie_for_MSFS.rar)

Caz

I know what it is, but rohan may think it's the GEX itself ;)

[Dimus]

Also keep in mind that Dimus uses a free mod that changes lighting in the sim. Stock FSX doesn't have colors,contrast and bloom as seen on these shots.

In these shots the configuration in the ENB light mod was set more or less as per Nick's suggestions found in the GEX forum here:

http://www.simforums.com/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=32482

[Dimus]

The adventures over Europe are endless. These are from a flight from Rieti to Pescara over the Appenines. Dusk time. Unfortunately I forgot to switch on my landing lights and spoiled the external shots but the terrain shows in good effect:

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii181/VDimus/fsx2009-12-1123-28-06-17.jpg

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii181/VDimus/fsx2009-12-1123-29-39-04.jpg

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii181/VDimus/fsx2009-12-1123-30-23-22.jpg

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii181/VDimus/fsx2009-12-1123-30-30-05.jpg

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii181/VDimus/fsx2009-12-1123-30-56-13.jpg

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