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dhazelgrove
October 20th, 2009, 12:27
What is the one colour (color) that you never paint on Government Property?

Anyone?

Here's a couple of clues:

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc234/dhazelgrove/Screen-Tuesday-003-3.jpg

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc234/dhazelgrove/Screen-Tuesday-006-2.jpg

djscoo
October 20th, 2009, 12:30
:running:

Lewis-A2A
October 20th, 2009, 12:36
the RAF Pink Buccs that served in the gulf in '91 are some of the best looking aircraft I've ever seen IMO :engel016:

Plus the PRU spits ain't too bad :ernae:

Curtis P40
October 20th, 2009, 13:32
:wavey: During Desert Storm we had 15 pink M1A1's

:kilroy:

huub vink
October 20th, 2009, 13:48
The RAF did it long before the Buccs............

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/pr_spit.jpg

Lewis-A2A
October 20th, 2009, 14:26
Indeed Huub, however that spit would look beter in olive due to the mark :engel016:

CBris
October 20th, 2009, 19:50
But this one is right for marking - and even the camera hole. But we can't always have the 100% correct mdls for every paint.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/CBris/Spitfire/th_PiP_4.jpg (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y276/CBris/Spitfire/PiP_4.jpg)

Lewis-A2A
October 20th, 2009, 23:33
CBris believe me some people do :kilroy:

huub vink
October 21st, 2009, 03:49
Indeed Huub, however that spit would look beter in olive due to the mark :engel016:

The repaint is by TonyG and it depicts PR Mk.I Type C, also known as a PR.Mk.III. This was a modified Spitfire Mk.I, which was stripped from its radio equipment and armament. It had been fiitted with a Merlin XII engine (similar to the Spitfire MK.II) and a Rotol propeller. It carried an extra fuel tank behind the pilot and an extra blistertank under the port wing. The aircrafts were polished and painted with special paint. They were normally painted in a blue shade, but the R-7020 was painted with an experimental pink colour.

Therefore I presume, apart from the missing blistertank and perhaps some blisters in the hood, the PR Mk.I Type C model is quite similar to the normal Mk.I. But I think that's what Chris already said in the previous post.

Cheers,
Huub

Below a PR Mk.I Type G, which was armed.

http://www.spitfiresite.com/reference/camouflage-markings/2007/11/images/profile_A0307_small.jpg

Lewis-A2A
October 21st, 2009, 06:17
Interesting, fromt he research I have done Pink didnt come in until later and MkIc 'cons were a very light olive :kilroy:

However it was a good while ago when I was looking into that stuff. I am also under the impression that on these early birds the camera was in the wings not the fuse.

huub vink
October 21st, 2009, 08:01
Interesting, fromt he research I have done Pink didnt come in until later and MkIc 'cons were a very light olive :kilroy:

However it was a good while ago when I was looking into that stuff. I am also under the impression that on these early birds the camera was in the wings not the fuse.

Could well be, I'm not a real expert on photo reconnaissance Spitfires. But as far as I know there wasn't such a thing a standard PR scheme in the "early period" of photo reconnaissance by Spitfires. And I always understood the reconnaissance units had more or less complete freedom to experiment with any scheme they wanted. The standard PRU blue was not introduced until 1941. The original "camoutint" is often referred to as the predecessor Sky type S. Which is more a green-ish type of blue, of if you like a blue-ish kind of green and not really olive.

Camoutint pink was more common on the low flying reconnaissance aircrafts, therefore the use on the long-distance C type perhaps isn't really logical. But I can remember when Tony Greenheld released these schemes there was a discussion as well. When my memory is still correct he delivered some sort of evidence for all the weird schemes in this package.

But over the years I have become a bit wiser and I avoid discussions about colour or shades of colours based on bad reproductions of black&white pictures taken almost 70 years ago.

The heavier Rotol propeller which was first used on the B type, enabled the use of fuselage mounted cameras as the propeller worked as a counter weight. Whether this was actually done on all early PR Spitfires is unknown to me. The C type should indeed have a camera in a fairing under the starboard wing.

Huub

CBris
October 21st, 2009, 08:07
And of course on the non-flying side, certain desert ground troops from the second world war and on have painted their jeeps and landrovers and other vehicles an sweet shade of pink as well...

...they seemed like such nice boys too... :running:

Henry
October 21st, 2009, 08:16
And of course on the non-flying side, certain desert ground troops from the second world war and on have painted their jeeps and landrovers and other vehicles an sweet shade of pink as well...

...they seemed like such nice boys too... :running:
LOL:guinness:
H

galagamo
October 21st, 2009, 08:18
OT.

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc234/dhazelgrove/Screen-Tuesday-006-2.jpgI need this:isadizzy: is this Lightning for FS? Preferably FSX native. If so, Where might I acquire This magnificent model?

huub vink
October 21st, 2009, 08:34
And of course on the non-flying side, certain desert ground troops from the second world war and on have painted their jeeps and landrovers and other vehicles an sweet shade of pink as well...

...they seemed like such nice boys too... :running:

LOL! That's what you get when you send a group of men, without any female company to a remote area as the desert.

Navy Chief
October 21st, 2009, 08:45
Anyone remember the movie, "Operation Petticoat"?

Heh, heh.......

NC

P.S. Haven't been on here much lately. Reason? A new love in my life!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Matt Wynn
October 21st, 2009, 09:29
SAS Painted their Defender 110's in Desert Storm in '91, they're still the same colour now maybe a bit more sandy... their affectionate nickname.... 'Pinkies'

http://www.fototime.com/E5F18BB72A6EEC5/orig.jpg

Moses03
October 21st, 2009, 09:41
Hehe...

http://i33.tinypic.com/dbgwa0.jpg

Bjoern
October 21st, 2009, 12:26
Think pink. :engel016:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Wizz-Air/Airbus-A320-232/1588844/L/
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Untitled-(Pink-Aviation/Short-SC-7-3M-400-Skyvan/1582521/L/
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Court-Line/Lockheed-L-1011-385-1-TriStar/1405882/L/
http://www.airliners.net/photo/QantasLink-(Sunstate-Airlines)/De-Havilland-Canada/1571829/L/

Lewis-A2A
October 21st, 2009, 13:49
Yes that's what I found to Huub and yes i suppose it isnt really live just best description I could give hehe. Kinda a light cream with a tint of blue/green.

Dimus
October 22nd, 2009, 04:22
Or as Humbrol paints used to call it: "Duck Egg Blue" or was it "Duck Egg Green".:isadizzy:

Isn't that the same as the underside of a normal BoB era camo brown/green fighter Spitfire?

huub vink
October 22nd, 2009, 09:38
Or as Humbrol paints used to call it: "Duck Egg Blue" or was it "Duck Egg Green".:isadizzy:

Isn't that the same as the underside of a normal BoB era camo brown/green fighter Spitfire?

Dimus, I assume the colours were very alike. However "duck egg green" was originally introduced as "light sea green" and was a matt paint and therefore resonably rough. The "S" from Sky-S stands for smooth, which was introduced to reduce drag. Some sources say "duck egg green" was a slightly darker shade and a bit more "greenish". But as I said before; please remember most sources use 70 years old black and white pictures as source for their information about colours. ;)

It is likely that the shades of the various colours could be different depending the manufacturer. Especially as there was a lack of raw material, because there was a war going on at that moment and the UK was quite isolated at that moment.

But please keep this thread in its original colour.........

Cheers,
Huub

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/Huub_Vink/PR_I_2.jpg

dhazelgrove
October 22nd, 2009, 12:36
OT.
I need this:isadizzy: is this Lightning for FS? Preferably FSX native. If so, Where might I acquire This magnificent model?

The good news or the bad news?
The good news is that it is indeed flying in FSX.
The bad news is that it's a port-over.

It's the Alphasim EE Lightning Pack 3 - which ports without any problems (unlike their Pack 1).

Instructions for any FDE mods can be found over at UKMIL.

Dave

Dimus
October 23rd, 2009, 05:14
Dimus, I assume the colours were very alike. However "duck egg green" was originally introduced as "light sea green" and was a matt paint and therefore resonably rough. The "S" from Sky-S stands for smooth, which was introduced to reduce drag. Some sources say "duck egg green" was a slightly darker shade and a bit more "greenish". But as I said before; please remember most sources use 70 years old black and white pictures as source for their information about colours. ;)

It is likely that the shades of the various colours could be different depending the manufacturer. Especially as there was a lack of raw material, because there was a war going on at that moment and the UK was quite isolated at that moment.



Thank you for the very interesting info Huub!

I always wondered as a kid building and painting quite a few RAF models, how a colour like that greenish shade could have the word "Sky" in its title.

But now, as you say, let's focus on the pinkies.:redface:

Ome Joop
October 24th, 2009, 05:55
I don't mind some "pink" on any aircraft either...:engel016:


http://www.justplanemodels.com/cart/products/b29luckylady72.jpg


Altough this one is entirely different...
http://www.nasaimages.org/luna/servlet/detail/nasaNAS~2~2~8740~110438: