FSD P-38 repaint

[jankees]

OK, here's my first attempt.
I decided to start with the not-so-obvious, so here's a few WiP shots of a P-38 of the 4th Stormo of the Italian Air Force:
http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a1736.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a1740.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a1746.jpg

still a few things to sort, but it looks to be fun to paint...

[jankees]

OK, another update, I redid the entire alpha channel, as the previous version gave blurry textures close up, and I tweaked a bit here and there, I think we can call this one finished..

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a1756.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a1758.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a1759.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a1760.jpg

[MCDesigns]

nice work jankees!!! :ernae:

[Peritas]

Good work! Now I have to buy it... :ernae:

Regards,
Luca

[Chuck_Jodry-VJPL]

Good Stuff! when you decide to upload this and any others that so admirably display your talents send a copy to Avsim as well if you could , it’s nice to see they are back in action. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>

[jankees]

on to the next one.
The "Arkansas Traveller". I did one of those for the P-47 too, so they will make a nice pair..
I'm still figuring out the paintkit, so the hobo will get his feet back later..
wip shots, you understand..

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a1767.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a1770.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a1776.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a1778.jpg

[crashaz]

WoW!! I am glad you picked up the plane jankees... your talent really adds to any aircraft offering. Love Arkansas Traveller!!:applause:

[Gibbage]

Im saddened by the lack of camo/green birds. I think ill paint one myself. Im thinking something like the snake mouths of the 459th.

http://hsfeatures.com/images/p38jis_10.jpg

[MudMarine]

I like the early green birds also! Some early "slot" P-38's would be cool!

[MudMarine]

That's not a hobo, he's a hillbilly!:icon_lol:

[jankees]

OK, hillbilly then, but now with feet:

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a1789.jpg

still some more work to do, but slowly getting there

[MudMarine]

Very nice!!:applause:

[spotlope]

Gorgeous, Jan!

[gajit]

Fantastic :ernae:

[Quicksand]

Beautiful work, Jan!:applause::applause::applause:

[crashaz]

Hey jankees... if you could find it within your good graces.... I have a request...would like to see a Putt Putt Maru! Something about them Japanese flags on the fuselage. :icon_lol:

My first P-38 model as a kid was of that machine. I have some nice color lithographs I can scan if you need them!

Thanks again! The 38 is going to join the A2A fighters as a value galore with all the liveries you have done! :wavey:

[jankees]

If only life was easy...I looked at my own pics, and noticed there were no radiators visible anywhere (look at all the close-up shots). OK, the alpha appeared to be more complex than I thought, but I think I found most of them:
http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a1849.jpg

and to celebrate, I thought I might as well do another one:
http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a1822.jpg

same squadron, different bird..

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a1824.jpg

I like the modelling on the nose wheel:

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a1828.jpg

and they are cool to fly very low with:

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a1836.jpg

but no smoke, and no lights either...


crashaz: put put maru, sure, why not. If you have good images, please mail them to me?

[crashaz]

rgr rgr will do! Scans will be done tonight.:jump:

[Boomer]

Great paints Jan! :applause::applause::applause:

You will make me happy with a Putt Putt paint as well, no doubt Crash & I built the same kit & probably at about the same time LOL

btw there are lights, they are a much more subdued effect which I like much better. Turn on the wing & tail lights at night.

[Akatsuki]

Looking good Jan... as always. :jump:
I hope you will do as much repaint as you did/do with the A2A Jug.

[jankees]

I just uploaded the Italian version, both here and at Avsim, see if you like it?

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a1796.jpg

[crashaz]

Just PM'd ya with download instructions for Put Put Maru scans. :wavey:

[jankees]

I've got the scans, so expect a Maru over the next weeks..

Meanwhile:
file:///C:/Users/User/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot-4.pnghttp://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a1850.jpg

I've also started on some dirt, most wartime pics show really dirty aircraft, especially behind the turbosuperchargers. Still wip, will keep me occupied for a bit, but do you prefer your birds dirty or clean?

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a1863.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a1871.jpg

[deimos256]

this bird came with a whole bunch of clean paints, lets see some war weary ones!!!!

[jankees]

Gentle Annie:
http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a1912.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a1921.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a1926.jpg

[jeansy]

nice work how about,

http://www.adastron.com/lockheed/lightning/a553-3.jpg

i started this the other day but had to give it up as my paintshop is playing up

[gatlin7]

Jankees, you are a true artist! I always download any warbird painted by you or John Terrell because I know you guys go out of your way to make it right. I never cease to be amazed by the quality (and the quantity) of the the repaints that you crank out.

Having said that (and at the risk of being a full-blown rivet-counter), there are a couple of little things about the P-38 that I have noticed. First, according to my sources, it seems that Maloney's Pony should have red wigtips to go along with it's red booms. This practice (colored booms and wingtips) was used as a squadron ID for the 1st Fighter Group at the time the Pony served.

Secondly, and more universally, I think the antiglare panels on the nacelles do not go far enough back. Every natural metal Lightning I've ever seen from the war era had the extended antiglare on the nacelles, and almost every natural metal real world restoration and flightsim repaint I've seen gets it wrong (for whatever reason). I've attached some images to show what I'm talking about. Notice how the antiglare extends back past the scoop beside the supercharger and even spreads into the inner wing. Of course I realize this little detail may not matter to anyone else, but I'm a major '38 freak and I can't help it!

Finally, and this is just a general question, would the exhaust stains on the booms be that rusty looking? I always pictured them to be a grayish brown but I've never seen them in real life so I don't know.

At any rate, I love what you do. Please keep it up!

[jankees]

Jankees, you are a true artist! I always download any warbird painted by you or John Terrell because I know you guys go out of your way to make it right. I never cease to be amazed by the quality (and the quantity) of the the repaints that you crank out.

Having said that (and at the risk of being a full-blown rivet-counter), there are a couple of little things about the P-38 that I have noticed. First, according to my sources, it seems that Maloney's Pony should have red wigtips to go along with it's red booms. This practice (colored booms and wingtips) was used as a squadron ID for the 1st Fighter Group at the time the Pony served.

Secondly, and more universally, I think the antiglare panels on the nacelles do not go far enough back. Every natural metal Lightning I've ever seen from the war era had the extended antiglare on the nacelles, and almost every natural metal real world restoration and flightsim repaint I've seen gets it wrong (for whatever reason). I've attached some images to show what I'm talking about. Notice how the antiglare extends back past the scoop beside the supercharger and even spreads into the inner wing. Of course I realize this little detail may not matter to anyone else, but I'm a major '38 freak and I can't help it!

Finally, and this is just a general question, would the exhaust stains on the booms be that rusty looking? I always pictured them to be a grayish brown but I've never seen them in real life so I don't know.

At any rate, I love what you do. Please keep it up!

Red wingtips, you could be right. I based it on drawings and profiles and some show the red tips, some don't. The only pics I have don't show the wings at all, so that's no help. I'll add them,as it will look better I think, OK?

With the anti glare, you're probably right there too, but again, it's not really conclusive, as I have a few pics of the smaller antiglare too. It's amazingly difficult to find pictures of P-38's that show all the details, so very often we'll have to make assumptions. I will make bigger panels as indeed, most seem to have them. They should extend over part of the inner wing too. I just started painting P-38's, so while I may paint them relatively quick, I'm slow in posting them, as I'm not happy with details like this either, and so I have them on the back burner while I look for more info..Maloney's Pony seems to have small panels, btw...

as for the stains, I'm still experimenting, so your feedback is much appreciated. It's a nightmare getting it right, as the area consists of many many different parts, and I am still far from happy. I have never seen a real Lightning either & being colorblind doesn't help either.....

So a bit of patience, while I do a bit more research, and adjust the panels, and you can look forward to a few more P-38's in the (near) future, OK?

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a1882.jpg

[gatlin7]

Fair enough!

[Gibbage]

I like my aircraft really dirty. A dirty birdy!

[jankees]

OK, here's another update.
I've added the red wingtips, and the larger antiglare panels (checking the pics of the pony once more, it may have the larger ones after all. Oh, to have a time warp machine..), and I've greyed out the exhaust stains.
Any better??

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a2015.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a2016.jpg

I have also reduced the texture size to 2048, as this bird is a fps monster. I think the textures still look perfectly acceptable:

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a2018.jpg

I'll probably reduce all of the textures to 2048, so the specs and bumps as well, see if that helps as well..

Any more suggestions?

[jankees]

here are the others, all in 2048 textures.

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a2051.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a2048.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a2049.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a2050.jpg

[Quicksand]

Outstanding work, Jan! My gosh, they look so real!:medals::icon29::guinness::isadizzy::applause :

[jankees]

Glad you like 'em, here's yet another:

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a2074.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a2065.jpg

[IanHenry]

Jan,
are those available for download yet (I know the Italian one is), and if so where are they?

Regards,
Ian.

[deimos256]

they all look great, i love the exhaust effects. Too bad it runs pretty subpar on my system

[HippyEd]

Outstanding work Jan. Looking forward to downloading them. Hope you get your gauge problem worked out. Thanks again.

Ed:applause:

[jankees]

Jan,
are those available for download yet (I know the Italian one is), and if so where are they?

Regards,
Ian.

No, not yet, I am still working on details.
patience....

JanKees

[IanHenry]

OK thanks Jan, I'm really looking forward to those, they look great!

Ian.

[gatlin7]

Beautiful work Jankees! I absolutely love all of them! :applause:

[jankees]

and another one of the 392nd FS:

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a2132.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a2138.jpg

[idahosurge]

Jankees,

Have you uploaded your paints anyplace? I may have missed them, but I have not seen them here at sim-outhouse.

Rod

[big-mike]

Jankees,

Have you uploaded your paints anyplace? I may have missed them, but I have not seen them here at sim-outhouse.

Rod

I have the same question
Michael

[Quicksand]

Jan, you continue to paint some awesome schemes... Every one of them is outstanding, although I must confess that "Gentle Annie" is a favorite of mine... Beautiful work on these....:applause::medals::icon29::guinness::jump :

[jankees]

Jankees,

Have you uploaded your paints anyplace? I may have missed them, but I have not seen them here at sim-outhouse.

Rod

Sorry guys, not yet.
I'm still tweaking, as I want them to be as right as I can get them...
so a bit more patience. With each new paintjob, I add other details, and then go back to the others and add them there as well.
But s.....ooops, almost used the s-word!

Here's a few pics of progress, to wet your appetite.
Can you see the difference with the previous pics?
http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a2155.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a2162.jpg

I still need to get those bloody mirrors to shine...

[Gibbage]

The nose and engines still have the anti-glair in the spec channel or alpha.

[jankees]

The nose and engines still have the anti-glair in the spec channel or alpha.

Indeed, that's it! the b****y spec file!
Back to the drawing board...

But apart from that, it getting to be a nice line-up, don't you think?

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a2216.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a2225.jpg

[MenendezDiego]

ahem...what scenery is that! It's absolutely amazing!

[jankees]

ahem...what scenery is that! It's absolutely amazing!

That's Tamworth, by ORBX. Amazing is indeed the word.

[N2056]

I think those are the best screenies I have ever seen! :applause:

[idahosurge]

Real nice Jankees!

Rod

[deimos256]

great work, are they 4096 or 2048?

[jankees]

great work, are they 4096 or 2048?


these are all 2048
doesn't look to shabby, doesn't it?

[deimos256]

i cant tell the difference!

[Gibbage]

And you get a great boost in fps at 2K!

[Spilot69]

Hey Jankees,

Is it possible to have the exhaust from the turbo superchargers a little more yellow in color than the black. Here are a few pictures that depict the real exhaust stains. I do like yours but wondering if you can weather them like this in the future?

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Lockh...ing/1452045/L/ (http://www.airliners.net/photo/Lockheed-P-38L-Lightning/1452045/L/)
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Lockh...ing/0781667/L/ (http://www.airliners.net/photo/Lockheed-P-38J-Lightning/0781667/L/)
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Lockh...ing/1164201/L/ (http://www.airliners.net/photo/Lockheed-P-38J-Lightning/1164201/L/)

[letsgetrowdy]

Excellent work again mate, this plane is on my christmas list haha

Your scenery always makes me jealous, is it ORBX?

[jankees]

Hey Jankees,

Is it possible to have the exhaust from the turbo superchargers a little more yellow in color than the black. Here are a few pictures that depict the real exhaust stains. I do like yours but wondering if you can weather them like this in the future?


How's this then?

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a2279.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a2275.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a2277.jpg

[Spilot69]

Looks great Jankees! Perfect Match, Id say little more exhaust meaning make it a bit longer back and thicker and maybe get rid of the black soot since not needed, or toned down a bit. But YES love the exhaust color!

[jankees]

uploading three more repaints as I type, the bare metal versions of the 392nd FS, so Arkansas Traveler, Little Buckaroo and Viking 2, all in one package.

So that's the front three in this pic:
http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a2303.jpg

you'll have to have a bit more patience for the camo one, I just had an idea that is going to take a while...

[IanHenry]

Hi Jan,
I’ve downloaded your repaints for Maloney’s pony and Gentle Annie but when I came to install them the read me tells you to copy the "texture.Factory Fresh in your "FlightSim Developers P38J" directory, renaming it texture.maloney”, however the texture “Factory Fresh” is in the P38L folder not the P38J, yet all the references to the aircraft in the CFG entry refer to the P38J!
I’m a little confused, can you help me with this?
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Any suggestions will be much appreciated,
Ian.

[jankees]

Hi Jan,
I’ve downloaded your repaints for Maloney’s pony and Gentle Annie but when I came to install them the read me tells you to copy the "texture.Factory Fresh in your "FlightSim Developers P38J" directory, renaming it texture.maloney”, however the texture “Factory Fresh” is in the P38L folder not the P38J, yet all the references to the aircraft in the CFG entry refer to the P38J!
I’m a little confused, can you help me with this?
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Any suggestions will be much appreciated,
Ian.

Yes, I made a mistake there, sorry about that.
Make a copy of factory fresh (or any other texture), and put it in your P-38J folder with the new name. Then copy the contents of the download into that folder, overwriting when asked. Maloney and Annie were both J's so they should end up in the P-38J directory.
The Italian paintjob was an L, and I used the same readme file......
again, sorry for the mistake.

[IanHenry]

Thanks Jan.

Ian.

[Quicksand]

Many thanks, Jan!:medals::icon29::guinness::applause::jump:

[Barvan40]

Thanks for these great repaints Jankees! :applause:

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u162/Barvan40/2009-10-14_20-22-56-218.jpg

[jankees]

I just finished uploading these two:

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a2586.jpg

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww230/jcblom60/a2572.jpg

give them a try when they are available, and let me know what you think?

[Quicksand]

Beautiful, Jan. I'll be sure to grab them when they are posted for download. I like them both very much!:medals::applause::icon29::guinness: