The Ongoing Mystery Aircraft Thread Part Deux.

[wout]

so he called her the HCP-1 Hi Hopes.
N5960V was designed/built by Harry C. Peterson, Iowa. Continntal C85 engine, first flight September 1960.


May I suggest Sopwith Chameleon takes care of the next mystery?

[Sopwith Chameleon]

Thanks ! What's this Deco masterpiece ?

[Moses03]

Vultee V11 variant methinks.

[Sopwith Chameleon]

You thinks correctly - :icon29: over to you .....

[Moses03]

Thanks SC. (Until we know your real name).:biggrin-new:


Don't think this overspatted airliner has appeared before.

https://i.imgur.com/wj2hkVP.jpg

[Sopwith Chameleon]

My name is Jim, and I have no clue as to the current mystery :wavey:

[lefty]

Hello Jim !
I've done some digging for Kevin's mystery in Aerofiles, and came up with the Commercial Sunbeam C-1. Nice spats...

[Moses03]

Greetings Jim.

Mike- It is the C-1.:very_drunk: Over to Scotland!

[lefty]

Thank you Kevin. Can't find any evidence of this wide-winged floater appearing here before either....

[fabulousfour]

Looks very British, Mike.

Maybe the Short 310?

[lefty]

It is British, Robert, but not the Short 310. Produced by another manufacturer...

[giruXX]

The Mann Egerton Type B which is a modified version of the Short 184

[lefty]

That is exactly what it is, Uli. :very_drunk: over to you....

[giruXX]

on with this, sorry for the lousy pic

[fabulousfour]

Uli, depending on if the picture was taken in wartime or after the war this is either the AEG N 1 or the AEG K, the latter being the civil version of the former. :wavey:

[giruXX]

Right on the AEG, Robert. I have it as N I

:icon29:

[fabulousfour]

Thanks, Uli!

Here is something more modern.

[wout]

Hi fabulousfour:encouragement:
Judging the color scheme I guess this is a Neiva 420 Lanceiro, the civil counterpart of the U/L-42 Regente.

[fabulousfour]

I should have known that this is a piece of cake for you, Walter! :encouragement:

It is the Neiva Lanceiro. :icon29:

Over to you.

[wout]

Sorry for the delay. Had to take care of some family biz.
A small flying wing. I think 2 were ever built.

[pomme homme]

I don't know the identity of the flying wing in the foreground but the Auster Aiglet Trainer in the background appears to be F-BGKZ/G-BGKZ which, in the latter guise, belonged to Rupert Hibberd, a vet with whom I flew in the seventies, who used to keep his aeroplane in a field on top of Creech Hill in Somerset.

[wout]

From a very active designer. I estimate close to 20 (homebuilt) designs ranging from low wing to mid-wing to high wing to biplane.

[giruXX]

Walter, the audience might be silent because you posted a file which you didn’t want to post. :beaten:

[lefty]

Too cryptic for me, Uli......:dizzy:

[fabulousfour]

The filename of the mystery is identical to the aircraft's type, Mike. :bee:

[pomme homme]

That aeroplane's potty or faulty!

[wout]

I was not aware of this. Learning about my PC every day.
So now that all know the flying wing is a Pottier P-40, I take the liberty to post a new one :beaten:

[wout]

Two-seater, all-metal fuselage, fabric wings/tail feathers. First flown 1970. May be she is in a museum now.

[wout]

This is the BD-1 Durl-E-Aire (N8866) by William Durley. She was converted from a 1946 Aeronca Chief. Engine Continental A65-8.
Registration was cancelled 15 February 2018.

Open House, please

[lefty]

Had a good old search for that one, Walter, with no joy!

Here's a nice amphibian -

[fabulousfour]

Looks like the Falconar Teal from :canada:, Mike.

[lefty]

You got it, Robert. Not much on Aerofiles, but picture and info in Janes' 1970/1. :very_drunk:

[fabulousfour]

Thanks, Mike! :encouragement:

I hope, you guys all are fine in these bad days.

When did we have a jet the last time?

[wout]

hi fabulousfour:encouragement:
One of the Swiss FFA P-16 jets

[fabulousfour]

It is the FFA P.16.

Over to you, Walter :icon29:

[wout]

We have not had a twin tail boomer for a while.

[wout]

This is the Dumbo by Daniel Francisco Garro from Argentina.
Regi LV-X-97

Open House, please

[wout]

to keep us busy

[Sopwith Chameleon]

From :india: - literally home-built .... :wink:

[lefty]

Has it actually got off the ground yet ? I gather he has clearance ?

[wout]

I understand at least taxi trials were done.I have a (blurred) picture taken during these taxi trials.
India is indeed the country of birth of the Yadav TAC-3.

Open House, again :jump:

[lefty]

Taxi-ing trials here, Walter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dLAmhDWEE8

That was three years ago !

[Moses03]

How about an early floater?

Bonus points for the location.

https://i.imgur.com/TIuTYD9.jpg

[srgalahad]

Looks a lot like the bank of the Seine near Issy les Moulineaux, Paris

[Moses03]

Not in France!

[lefty]

Well the machine looks Maurice Farman apart from the odd cockpit shape (could be the fuzzy photo) and the twin mini-floats under the rudders.

Suspect it is an American copy ?

[giruXX]

On the longest river of the African continent: Short S.80 Nile

[Moses03]

:icon29::icon29: No more to add! (Photo taken near Cairo).

Have at it Uli.

[giruXX]

a wee light plane

[wout]

Hi giruXX:encouragement:
One of the few Bantam aircraft, a design of Bill Warwick (USA)

[giruXX]

Thank you Wout!
I found it as Boswell Bantam N2014 without further information.
Could you enlighten us further (before you continue with the next mystery), please?

[wout]

The W-3 Bantam was one of several homebuilt designs by Bill Warwick. Others were the W-4 Hot Canary biplane racer (N4777W) and the M-1 Tiny Champ high wing single-seater
(N3632G)
Some details on the Bantam:
single-seat sport
No.1: one 65hp Lycoming O-145-B piston engine
max. speed 140 mph, cruise 115 mph, icr 1,000ft/minute, ceiling 12,000ft
wingspan 18.417ft; length 13.75ft; height 6ft
DETAILS: The single-seat W-3 Bantam sport aircraft was another original design of Mr. Bill Warwick. The first aircraft (N2258B) H) was constructed by the designer and was first flown on 4 July 1965 (June 1966?) with one 65hp Lycoming O-145-B engine. Several additional aircraft were built, such as a modified example (N2014) by Mr. Boswell (around 1969/1970) and one by Mr. Robert White and this aircraft appeared in 1977 only. These aircraft possibly had one 65hp Continental A65 engine.
Production: at least 3 completed
Photo shows Bantam no.1

[wout]

Under maintenance.

[pomme homme]

Aerotec A-122/T.23 Uirapuru?

[cthornburg]

Fokker S.12, 8FG Guanabara

Chris

[wout]

Hi Chris:very_drunk:
Correct. The sole Guanabara in final form.

Your turn, please

[cthornburg]

a close relative has been on here before

Chris

[pomme homme]

Albert A-62?

[cthornburg]

That's it take it away.

Chris

[pomme homme]

Thank you, Chris. Now I wonder if this aeroplane's designer thought that his/her creation would grow into its wheels!

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49705351866_cbc60e7b3c_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iJhVph)

[cthornburg]

SEMAN Chuspi/IndAer IAP-001

Chris

[pomme homme]

Spot on, Chris. Peru's first indigenous aeroplane. Over to you, sir.

[cthornburg]

Looks like but isn't.

Chris

[wout]

Meet SAM, a Canadian Design originally from Sam Aircraft byFrenchman Thierry Zibi
Now under the banner of Zenith keeping the France/Canada connection.

[cthornburg]

That's it have fun with the next offering

Chris

[wout]

A small parasol wing. I left the star on to give a clue on her possible origin.

[wout]

First flight 1966. Initially 18hp motorcycle engine, later wth 28hp K-750 engine.

[Sopwith Chameleon]

M P Kolchina "Sparrow" built by a group of Model airplane makers !

[wout]

Well done and perfect research work :very_drunk:

your turn, sir

[Sopwith Chameleon]

Thank you : this was allegedly the first of its kind

[Moses03]

Short Silver Streak Jim. :encouragement: Brit metal!

[Sopwith Chameleon]

Correct ! Brit metal indeed - allegedly Britain's first all metal airplane :icon29: have at it sir !

[Moses03]

Thanks Jim.

This one had an interesting/tragic life.

https://i.imgur.com/zZFYPxV.jpg

[Moses03]

The second of three builds from this designer. He became the chief test pilot of another company a couple of years later. (We had a mystery from this company recently).

[Moses03]

Crashed into a hill in 1915, killing two passengers. Our designer/pilot was injured but survived. Turns out he was building and flying without a license. Seems strange now but probably common then.

[lefty]

Would this be Harry Jones' second effort ? He went on to Sturtevant ?

[Moses03]

That is the one Mike.:very_drunk:

[lefty]

Thank you Kevin.
This one has appeared before, but it was a few years ago, so some of our more recent regulars may not have seen it...Walter will know I'm sure, but let's see who else can pin it down...a neat but diminutive twin -

[giruXX]

The Hollsmidt 222 or HT-1 in the Danish Avaition Museum

[lefty]

Indeed, Uli. :icon29: Have you visited it ?

[giruXX]

No I didn’t but the background appeared immediately familiar (from seeing other photos)

Here is a beautiful mystery that presumably will not survive the day.

[pomme homme]

That long legged undercarriage style suggests something by Herberts Cukurs, perhaps a C.6 variant?

[fabulousfour]

April fools day :very_drunk:

I suspect this is a Heinkel He 51 missing its upper wing ( and some more added/deleted details) :encouragement:

[giruXX]

More „good“ guesses?
I have seen Carlo here!
Carlo how are you? Please use PN if you want to keep something confidential.

[giruXX]

That long legged undercarriage style suggests something by Herberts Cukurs, perhaps a C.6 variant?

That was a good idea (as this mystery is a cuckoo) but I wouldn’t have encouraged anybody to follow it further if Robert would have stood quiet.

Well, it’s already April 2nd in part of the world. Therefore I must give in and accept Robert’s offer as correct! :wavey: :ernaehrung004:

[fabulousfour]

Thanks, Uli.
In fact it was the belly tank which caught my eye immediately. A very characteristic detail for the He 51 I think.
If you had altered the tank you probably would have trapped me. :very_drunk:

Can you tell all the changes you did? I noticed the gear legs, the engine and of course the missing wing.

Here is my next mystery.

[lefty]

Ahh, back to the Stauning museum again - this one is the KZ-X or KZ-AOP. :denmark: Unmistakeable tail....

[fabulousfour]

Nothing more to add, Mike :encouragement:

Enjoy your pint and stay healthy! :icon29:

[lefty]

Thank you Robert - yes the Boss and I have managed to avoid coming to blows, made easier because we have a big enough house and garden - how families in flats cope, I cannot imagine...

Here, surprise surprise, is another water baby....

[cthornburg]

Wright XF3W-1 Apache

Chris

[lefty]

Yes, Chris. Over to you...:very_drunk:

[cthornburg]

Cabin type

Chris

[wout]

Hi Chris:encouragement:
A prototpe from Brazil, the IPT-7 Junior by Instituto de Pesquisas Tecnológicas

[cthornburg]

That's the one. Over to you.

Chris

[wout]

Twin tail boomer with inverted V-tail. No, not the Avispa in a distorting mirror

[wout]

She is European and was developed by students and a university. Is now in storage.

[wout]

This is the Aviacom AF-129 from Poland. Developed by students of the Warsaw University of Technology. Work started 2005-2006. Engine 100hp Rotax 914. The AF-129
was first flown in 2011. Registration SP-YWI

Open House, please

[Sopwith Chameleon]

What about this ?

[pomme homme]

Looks like the Nene Viking to me, after transfer to the MoS.

[Sopwith Chameleon]

Looks like the Nene Viking to me, after transfer to the MoS.
That's it exactly - the Rolls Royce Test-bed :icon29: - over to you !

[pomme homme]

Thank you, Jim. Here's another example of the handiwork of an idiosyncratic designer.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49736272192_ed6927ee41_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iM2oWm)

[pomme homme]

I've found a better picture of this machine. French designer, Spanish manufacturer.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49738951911_901cbd853c_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMg8wp)

[pomme homme]

As the images of the aeroplane itself do not seem to ringing any bells, may I try one of the designer before, if this does not work, throwing in the towel and declaring open house?

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49741895831_146492478f_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMwdDD)

[Baragouin]

I've found a better picture of this machine. French designer, Spanish manufacturer.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49738951911_901cbd853c_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iMg8wp)She's a Sablier type 100 par Vizcaya Aviacion. If correct OH
Cheers
Carlo

[pomme homme]

Welcome back, Carlo. I hope that you've weathered the storm and that things are not too bad for you at present.

The little single seater is indeed a (the?) Sablier type 100 as manufactured by la Vicaina Aviacion at Fabrica de Garay y Sesumago (or Fabrica de Gomas Garay, according to another source), Viscaya, Bilbao.

Carlo having declared open house, whilst awaiting the next challenge can anyone tell me why Georges Sablier was dressed in thigh length boots, lederhosen kurze and leather gloves for that photograph?

[lefty]

can anyone tell me why Georges Sablier was dressed in thigh length boots, lederhosen kurze and leather gloves for that photograph?

Some of these French chappies do have rather exotic personal proclivities. Had they been Wellington Boots, I would have suggested he was about to go out and check on his sheep.......:mixed-smiley-010:

[Sopwith Chameleon]

....... puts me in mind of someone else ...

[pomme homme]

I fear that M. Sablier might have searched in vain for sheep in the 16th arrondissement, which is where in Paris he lived. I doubt that the sheep could have afforded the rents in that quarter. I suspect that the only sheep that he was likely to have found there would have been butchered, cooked and on plates in the restaurants.

N.b. an error above, that I can't now revise - the company was la Vizcaina Aviacion. I omitted the z!

[Sopwith Chameleon]

What exactly is this ....

[pomme homme]

Might I suggest, SC, that you make it a little more difficult by removing the serial number from the image.

[Moses03]

Well, at first glance you see the vulture engine then realize it's a part of the Hawker family. In this case a Henley testbed.

The serial was an afterthought and did not search on it.:encouragement:

We needed an easier one anyways. Mike's Sablier was rough enough for me. (Kudos to Carlo!).

[Sopwith Chameleon]

Easy indeed after the Franco/Spanish mystery ......:adoration: the Vulture test bed it is :icon29: and over to you .....
( and I left the serial there deliberately pour encourage Les autres )

[Moses03]

In the spirit of pour encourage Les autres, I offer up the next mystery.

https://i.imgur.com/DP6TPr9.jpg

[Baragouin]

[QUOTE=Moses03;1216300]In the spirit of pour encourage Les autres, I offer up the next mystery.

https://i.imgur.com/DP6TPr9.jpg[I think this is a Vickers "Windsor". If correct again OH please (probably type 461)
Cheers
Carlo

[Moses03]

It is the mighty Windsor. :very_drunk:

[wout]

Something different. This is the Republic RC-1.
What name is used for this aircraft
Name at least 5 main differences with the production RC-3 Seabee (more also allowed)

[lefty]

Differences -
(1) Tapered wing v constant chord on RC-3
(2) Full cantilevered wing (strutted on RC-3)
(3) Floats unstrutted unlike RC-3
(3) Gear geomtery altered on RC-3
(4) Recessed wheel wells, later removed
(5) Engine recessed into wing - later mounted on top
(6) RC-3 engine had 40hp extra.

OK for starters, Walter ?

[pomme homme]

You've forgotten to mention, Mike, that Thunderbolt was the name given to the RC-1!

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=75258&stc=1

[lefty]

Indeed, Mike. Which reminds me of my favourite name given to its illustrious Republic namesake....

[wout]

Hi Mike:very_drunk:
You are correct on all points.
Pomme Homme already mentioned the name Thunderbolt for the RC-1
Others differences: 2-seat RC-1 and 4-seat RC3
Simplified construction on the RC-3 with fewer parts/components.
Squared top of vertical tail

You are invited for the next challenge

[lefty]

Thank you, Walter.

Here's a rather plain biplane...sorry, sesquiplane. I expect it to be gone by morning !

[Sopwith Chameleon]

Berliner-Joyce F2J

[lefty]

That's it, Jim - properly, the XF2J-1 :icon29:

[Sopwith Chameleon]

Thanks ! OH please .....

[srgalahad]

Should be easy enough... altough the name and country might be a bit of a challenge

[fabulousfour]

Looks like an Avro Lincolnian/Lincoln Freighter in Paraguay.

[srgalahad]

I spy with my little eye .. ZP-CBR
:very_drunk:

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=75292&stc=1

[fabulousfour]

Here is an ultralight before the term was invented.

[fabulousfour]

Quite well known manufacturer who made several models, though only one type was built in considerable numbers.

[fabulousfour]

The company was liquidated in the mid-1920ies shortly after the construction of a multi-engined airliner of which only one was built.

[giruXX]

The guy in the cockpit looks like young Ernst Udet: Udet U 1

[fabulousfour]

Close enough to me, Uli.

In fact it is the U 2 but I don't think that the difference (the U2 is a two-seater) is visible in the photo.

Enjoy your pint. :icon29:

[giruXX]

a whirlybird to continue

[wout]

Hi giruXX:encouragement:
The Bee by Webb Scheutzow (USA). I guess she is N592A

[giruXX]

your guess is right, Walter :icon29:

[wout]

A one-of cabin biplane.

[wout]

First flown 1977, Lycoming O-290-D engine, 2-seater

[srgalahad]

Lookslike someone had a spare set of wings and decided to mate them to a short-wing Piper (PA-15/16/17/20). maybe even a Colt turned back to a tail-dragger.

[wout]

AFAIK she is an original. Designed/built by John E. Clarke and named the Skylark.
Registration N214JC

Open House, please

[cthornburg]

A familiar looking heli

Chris

[Sopwith Chameleon]

Hi I think this whirlybird is from :iran:

[Sopwith Chameleon]

OK - this is claimed to be the IHSRC Homa helicopter built in Iran, but it is alleged to be a rebuild of a crashed Bell 412 with a new front end ....

[cthornburg]

I have it as Panha-1 but in the land of knock offs of 50 year old technology. I've seen several different names for each aircraft. I've recently seen many weird stuff out of Iran. I wouldn't be surprised if they made a copy of the Wright Flyer and claimed they invented flight.

Over to you.

Chris

[Sopwith Chameleon]

Thanks ! Now for an easy one ..... but a neat picture :mixed-smiley-010:

[fabulousfour]

That looks very much like a folded Fairey Barracuda.

[Sopwith Chameleon]

........ So much so that it is ! Over to you :icon29:

[Ascua]

Yup, that it is, the U/C is a giveaway! Apart from the look of a crashed aircraft :biggrin-new:

[fabulousfour]

On with a biplane.

[cthornburg]

Hanriot H-431 F-AJTK

Chris

[fabulousfour]

It is the Hanriot.

Over to Chris. :icon29:

[cthornburg]

Sorry for the quality best I have. Racey little number.

Chris

[Sopwith Chameleon]

From Brazil :brazil: .....

[wout]

Maybe the IPT Bichino

[Sopwith Chameleon]

That's what I think ...

[cthornburg]

I had it as IPT O Bichinho So over to Walter

Chris

[wout]

Thanks Chris:encouragement:
Next challenge. Maybe the C172 was taken as example?

[fabulousfour]

I think this is the Valdo RA-01876K from Russia.

[wout]

Hi fabulousfour:very_drunk:
Fully correct. I have her as Waldo. Must be my version of Google translate.
Would you have any further info, such as name of designer/builder?.
She seems to have one of my inline engines.

Your turn, please

[fabulousfour]

Sorry, Walter, I don't have any further information about the Valdo/Waldo.
I only found some pictures at russianplanes.net and airliners.net

Next mystery is a biplane again.

[Moses03]

That Sir, is a Caspar U.1.

[fabulousfour]

Indeed, Kevin, it is the tiny Caspar U.1 which could/should be stored in submarines.

Over to Texas. :icon29:

[Moses03]

Thanks Robert. Sorry for the delay!

Another biplane that came a little earlier than the Caspar.

https://i.imgur.com/ONHZ3SV.jpg

[Moses03]

Submitted to the military as a trainer but was not accepted. From a small stable.

[Moses03]

Right after WWI there was little interest in their designs so the two man team went their separate ways, one in the automobile industry and the other as a dentist!

Hall-Scott engine.

[lefty]

The final clue did it. This must be the Whittemore-Hamm -probably L-2 ? According to this site there were actually five models including a monoplane .

https://www.massaerohistory.org/Whittemore-Hamm.html

[Moses03]

I had it as the L-3, but close enough. Suds for Mike.:very_drunk:

[lefty]

Something more warlike -

[fabulousfour]

An ugly duckling which is NOT from France. :bee:

That is the sole Junkers K.39, Mike.

[lefty]

Yes of course it is, Robert. Over to you - :very_drunk:

[fabulousfour]

Another ugly duckling. :bee:

[cthornburg]

ANF Les Mureaux 120N3

Chris

[fabulousfour]

The similarity is quite astonishing but the mystery is not from the ANF stable.

[cthornburg]

Wibault 220

Chris

[fabulousfour]

It is the Wibault 220 :encouragement:

Over to you, Chris :icon29:

[cthornburg]

Interesting high winger

Chris

[Moses03]

Knew I had seen it somewhere, it's a Kalinin K.1.

[cthornburg]

That's the one on with the next mystery

Chris

[Moses03]

On with a low wing monoplane.

https://i.imgur.com/a8qlxux.jpg

[Moses03]

RED striping with RED wings...:biggrin-new:

[fabulousfour]

Is that a broad hint, Kevin?

There is a Red Wing Trainer at aerofiles but I can't find anything else about that that bird.

[Moses03]

It is a hint Robert. (More so on the model than make).

First flown in 1930 but soldiered on until at least 1940 which is unusual for a one-off of this type. Cirrus engine.

[fabulousfour]

I think I have it.

The Mercury S Red Racer.

[Moses03]

Yes you do! Mystery achieved.

Over to Robert.:icon29:

[fabulousfour]

Thanks, Kevin.

So let's try this biplane.

[fabulousfour]

From a company that built mainly biplanes and gliders :bee:

[lefty]

Waco 9, Robert ?

[fabulousfour]

Indeed, Mike, it is a Waco 9 somewhere in Argentina.

Did the clue with the gliders help or was it more confusing (as I had hoped :bee: )?

Anyway, over to Scotland. :icon29:

[lefty]

Thanks Robert - the glider/biplane clue finally persuaded me it wasn't French - after that my first hit on Aerofiles was Waco....

Here's one you won't find in Aerofiles..

[pomme homme]

Here's one you won't find in Aerofiles..

Is that because it's not American?

[giruXX]

The Focke-Wulf A 40 :bee:

[lefty]

Indeed, Uli. Over to you - :icon29:

[giruXX]

on with this

[Sopwith Chameleon]

Pisarenko VOP 1 :russia:

[giruXX]

you nailed it down S.C.
enjoy a beer :icon29:

[Sopwith Chameleon]

Thanks ! Most welcome on a warm sunny day - onward with a flying wing ....

[Baragouin]

Thanks ! Most welcome on a warm sunny day - onward with a flying wing ....
Finally an easy one… Demonge 7/5.OH please
Cheers
Carlo

[Sopwith Chameleon]

Right on !:icon29:

[fabulousfour]

Here is a biplane which shouldn't bother you for too long.

[Moses03]

Check out those struts. They look like 2x4s!:biggrin-new:

[cthornburg]

Fiat B.R.

Chris

[fabulousfour]

It is a Fiat BR and in front of it is its designer Celestino Rosatelli. :very_drunk:

Over to Chris. :icon29:

[cthornburg]

Here's a quick and easy one

Chris

[fabulousfour]

That's the Airbus E-Fan, Chris.

[cthornburg]

You got it have fun with the next mystery

Chris

[fabulousfour]

Thanks, Chris.

On with another biplane. One small clue in advance: The engine might look like a 3-cylinder but this is not the case.

[cthornburg]

Heinkel HD22 made in Hungary by Weiss Manfried

"HA-MAK"

Chris

[fabulousfour]

Well done, Chris, it is the HD.22 in Hungarian service. :encouragement:

Quite interesting photo, I've never seen such a camouflaged Heinkel biplane before.

Over to you. :icon29:

[cthornburg]

It's big brother has been on here before

Chris

[cthornburg]

It's in Aerofiles it's big brother was a twin

Chris

[cthornburg]

The big reveal "Southernaire BM-10"

Chris

Open House

[wout]

This one is not so well known, I guess.

[wout]

Year of manufacture 1971. Engine a 180hp Franklin 6A-335. Registration cancelled 2003

[wout]

This is the B-1 Quick n Easy by Wayne Bosswell of Oregon/USA. I know disappointingly little of the aircraft, except that she was completed 1971 and had a Franklin engine.
Registration was N5871. It is posible that the photo shows the aircraft in "final" form. Please see attached second photo showing an earlier version (??) with a shorter fuselage and different cabin area.
Any additional info is very welcome:victorious:

Open House, please

[pomme homme]

Can I please use the 'open house' interregnum to post a photograph which, on more than one other forum, is proving impossible - at least, so far - to identify? Below is the photograph posted on the other forums, together with two close-ups taken from that. The original poster of the photograph says that the aeroplane was operated by his grandfather, who worked for Short Bros. during WW2, from various small fields in Kent. He also says that he has the propeller from the aeroplane, which bears the date 'September 1924'. I felt that the aeroplane was too small to have been piloted by a human, and thus might have been some sort of large scale model, but many have disagreed with that theory. Also it's been suggested that the engine is an Anzani V twin - although I don't think that it's possible to dismiss the possibility that it is an inverted Blackburne Tomtit. Any ideas, anyone?

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49840761333_d7cd1f6fbb_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iWfVVg)

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49841302416_b5dee2ac87_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2iWiGLh)

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49841603682_baf6a592f3_o.jpg

[pomme homme]

A mystery, it seems, the little parasol wing monoplane must remain. Will someone, please, post a mainstream challenge, in order to get things moving on?

[cthornburg]

Sorry about the quality will try to find better. Something that might be a challenge

Chris

[lefty]

That, Chris, is the Archon SF-1 from, of all places, Greece - :greece:

Seems to fly pretty well, too, although it doesn't sound quite like an F-35 !

www.aerosports.gr (http://www.aerosports.gr)

Thanks for posting that. It's fun, and boy, do we all need some of that....

[cthornburg]

Right on target over to you

Chris

[lefty]

Something different again -

[fabulousfour]

That bird is very much larger as it appears to be.

That is the Linke-Hofmann R.II, Mike.

[lefty]

Indeed, Robert. Must have seemed like a good idea at the time.....:ernaehrung004:

[fabulousfour]

Mike, from what I know about the Linke-Hofmann it seems that it must have had its benefits.
I remember a quote from a pilot who flew it that the gigantic prop (one of the biggest ever built!) turned so slowly you could see it turning! :dizzy:

On with something more modern.

[fabulousfour]

Not from Europe.

[pomme homme]

Japan, perhaps?

[fabulousfour]

Not from Japan as well, Mike.

That bird is from the southern hemisphere.

[wout]

Hi fabulousfour:encouragement:
Butler Bat (Bat 2) from Australia?

[fabulousfour]

It is the Butler ABA-2 Bat from Australia :encouragement:

Over to Walter :icon29:

[wout]

This certainly is(was) a one-of. Donot get distracted by the name on the truck in the background. She (the plane) is not German/Swiss/Austrian

[giruXX]

I have this as Aero Pony W, YU-ZBJ

[wout]

That is her giruXX:very_drunk:
The Bane Aero Pony W was built using parts/components of at least 3 other aircraft. Fuselage came from a Piper PA-25 Pawnee, the wings from a Vajic V-55 and the
Lycoming O-435 from an Aero Model 3 trainer.

Your turn, sir!

[giruXX]

Thanks for the extra info, Wout!


Sesquiplanes are seldom. So this one shouldn’t bother you for too long.

[giruXX]

too easy or too difficult??



American from the 1960s

[wout]

Hi giruXX:encouragement:
Maybe both or neither. I will bite:
The Young Eddyo F2 (N5566V). Sometimes seen as Eddy-O. Design by Evert W. Young. FF November 1963. Two-seater with Lycoming O-290 engine.

[giruXX]

thanks for clarification

enjoy a drink with your bite :icon29:

[wout]

This one appeared around 1986 and remained a one-of.

[wout]

This 2-seater has one of my engines. Reportedly she is from the same city/region where the same group (?) produced a line of other light aircraft if similar configuration.

[fabulousfour]

I hope my translation is correct, I found it as airplane number 7 red "Leader" by P. P. Almurzin.

[wout]

Hi fabulousfour:very_drunk:
That is her. Named Leader (sometimes spelled as Lider). The other aircraft I mentioned is the series of Delfin light planes from Kronstad.

[fabulousfour]

Floater time again. I don't think we had this one before.

[cthornburg]

CAMS 52 but has been on here before post 12347 back in 2016.

Chris

Haven't seen that pix though.

[fabulousfour]

Strange. My search for this type in this thread didn't show a hit.

A had it as CAMS 60 but having read the posts concerning the CAMS 52 in this thread I think my source is wrong and it is indeed the CAMS 52.

So the baton goes to Chris :icon29:

[cthornburg]

Thanks Robert

Here one the only two pics I could find with a known pilot/designer company owner.

Chris

[cthornburg]

I don't know the history of the aircraft but pilot is in Aerofiles. I assume aircraft is american

Chris

[Moses03]

No luck on my end Chris.

That engine/compartment looks suspect to me. Almost like a mockup.

[cthornburg]

Hopefully someone out there can find more info.
Caption read "borde-lons-monoplane" 1921
Pilot is Wally Timm

Chris

OH

[Moses03]

Hmm, can't seem to unearth a thing about the oddly named borde-lons-monoplane or Borde Lonas Monoplane (https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/6997139068).

[pomme homme]

I wonder whether someone with IT skills and equipment better than mine can decipher the text in the heart and the oblong on the fuselage just aft of the cockpit (? - I assume that there is one and that this was not a prone pilot experiment!) and whether this might shed any light upon this aeroplane?

Searching the internet, one comes across a copy of the second photograph with the following manuscript annotation:

'Wally Timms 1918 Bordon Mono Plane'

[lefty]

Yes I tried to decipher that as well....
AllI can add is another couple of SD archive photos of Otto Timms -

[fabulousfour]

The photo of the mystery is part of the James Hester Collection at flickr:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/sets/72157629602216838/

When you scroll down a while you can find the same picture in a much better quality where you can download it in a better resolution:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/sdasmarchives/6997139068/in/album-72157629602216838/

I've tried to enhance the inscription on the plane a bit, is anybody able to decipher it?

Maybe the last letter of the first word is an "H"?

[Moses03]

The second word looks like "LON'Z" or "LON'I".

Thanks to Lefty's 2nd pic I guess we can assume it is a 2-cylinder engine? Or is that another cylinder popping out from the bottom.