PDA

View Full Version : Bataan Lockheed constellation repaint



anels9
September 1st, 2023, 14:32
Is someone able to kindly do this livery on Manfred jahns l-749 please?

https://www.airliners.net/photo/Untitled/Lockheed-C-121A-Constellation-L-749/7310635/L?qsp=eJwtjcEKwjAQRP9lz16s4qG3%2BAHVgz%2BwbIYaiE3Y XcFS%2Bu/G4G1485jZSMri%2BPhjraCRDKzypANVVn4ZjRsp5mSu7KksQfz NuXnTeRim0Dwr6te1kciOIILqiH9%2B0wj9VTDpk3O7OLYAvfd Mp0vjMVnN3DfgnDLt%2BxdBMjIN

https://www.airliners.net/photo/Untitled/Lockheed-C-121A-Constellation-L-749/7310529/L?qsp=eJwtjcEKwjAQRP9lz16s4qG3%2BAHVgz%2BwbIYaiE3Y XcFS%2Bu/G4G1485jZSMri%2BPhjraCRDKzypANVVn4ZjRsp5mSu7KksQfz NuXnTeRim0Dwr6te1kciOIILqiH9%2B0wj9VTDpk3O7OLYAvfd Mp0vjMVnN3DfgnDLt%2BxdBMjIN

Mike71
September 2nd, 2023, 02:08
One of the issues (for me) is that though not terribly involved to do the textures, the restoration took some liberties with the blue "zapper" - outlined with red, which the original did not have. Also I have yet to see any top down views of the wings. These 121s had a wide range of wing walks and other items.

The nose art will take some creativity as well.

Anyway I may take a whack at it but it will take some time.

Bookman1960
September 2nd, 2023, 03:57
Might these help?

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/0epz929fn1j4erlv3jz24/960x0.jpg?rlkey=amb5lm33its4lz0la56h1atne&dl=1

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/533u68las7n6qeqip7mb5/bataan_overhead.jpg?rlkey=0jws2lejvjledotmdx570aw9 6&dl=1

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/2h091mlbcy6fx06buqf3s/bataan_left.jpg?rlkey=ws85q4sxspjmynw000dabt979&dl=1

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/jx4i1w3mwvs2oqu5fbaaj/bataan_right.jpg?rlkey=dx5bbg6a8f7s564fclnfilcn9&dl=1
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/533u68las7n6qeqip7mb5/bataan_overhead.jpg?rlkey=0jws2lejvjledotmdx570aw9 6&dl=0

Mike71
September 2nd, 2023, 04:00
The issue for me is, I want to paint the original, not this pseudo restoration - the paint scheme is a lot different

anels9
September 3rd, 2023, 00:19
Thanks for potentially taking this on mike.

Mike71
September 3rd, 2023, 06:18
91681

I am trying to represent the original BATAAN as best I can interpret from photos of it in the boneyard, etc. I still don't get how to make my photos bigger, but my gracefully degrading brain is a little fuzzy from watching football all day yesterday.


It was actually stripped, then supposedly repainted as original at some point, but I have yet to find any B&W or color photos of the original. I can only interpret some things, including how shiny it may have been.


The 5-star logo behind the exit and the nose art were somewhat a P.I.T.A, but-


This is essentially the Manfred Jahn L-769 turbo stack C-121A model for FSX / P3D, but I moved windows around to match what photos I have. Different window arrangements don't surprise me at all, especially since this was the first C-121A converted to a VC-121A according to records.


I need some minor work arounds, especially the alpha / albedo texture of my repositioned windows.


More to follow - criticism welcome.

Mike71
September 3rd, 2023, 11:42
9168491683

About done, I guess.


The photo panel shows an old news article regarding 8613 in use by Gen MacArthur, and the "boneyard" recovered version in flight before current repaint seen at Oshkosh. Note the old photo does not seem to have the Bataan emblem yet, and a US flag on the tailfins. There is no 5-star insignia aft of the rear entry door.


Perhaps the the current owners removed the flags and replaced with the Texas logo?


The photo was taken only 3 or 4 months after the beginning of the Korean War, so 8613 was likely "gussied up" a little later asMacArthur's duties became more complex and required extensive travel. An article states that he himself named the plane. Perhaps his in 1951 replacement, Gen Ridgeway , had it spit shined, or maybe it was always somewhat mid-toned.

huub vink
September 3rd, 2023, 15:11
Nice work Mike :encouragement:

Cheers,
Huub

anels9
September 3rd, 2023, 16:22
Thanks for that mike, looks nice. Will you be doing the resto one as well or just the original?

Mike71
September 4th, 2023, 10:09
Thanks for that mike, looks nice. Will you be doing the resto one as well or just the original?I am working on it.

This is the Planes of Fame "BATAAN" restoration repaint - requested previously.


It was flown / on display at Oshkosh recently.


This is in work; some accuracy is questionable because most documentation is based on film clips with their inherent glare and perspective angles.


In my opinion they made some weird decisions on painting the cheat line, wherein it intercepts some window frames, covers others. Oh, well.


Anyway, getting there.


91692

TARPSBird
September 5th, 2023, 15:29
Mike, both paint jobs look great. :encouragement: I often end up downloading a plane just because somebody's done a really nice repaint for it. This time it'll be Manfred's C-121.

Mike71
September 6th, 2023, 01:26
Mike, both paint jobs look great. :encouragement: I often end up downloading a plane just because somebody's done a really nice repaint for it. This time it'll be Manfred's C-121.Thanks; I uploaded both packages late yesterday, should show up soon.

I made a few improvements here and there, mostly location of markings and the alphas.

anels9
September 6th, 2023, 01:54
Which skin category can I find them in mike? :)