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William Njurmi
January 12th, 2023, 10:12
We have Air Inter and Air New England but is it all?

vonstroheim
January 13th, 2023, 16:56
The New England one is nice but not enough hi-res to my taste. The 2 Air Inter are from the original developper (Benoit Gaurant), and they are great and period correct. But yes that's it, what a pity!

https://i.imgur.com/OLWVQUT.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Yfc5XPf.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/VWRR8D8.jpeg

There's a white livery in the package (https://library.avsim.net/search.php?SearchTerm=f2751bgt.zip&CatID=root&Go=Search). Let's hope some talented repainters give it a try!

Obviously, a KLM livery would be the next logical step... Doesn't seem too difficult... Maybe I'll try...

https://i.imgur.com/B5ARASV.jpg (https://www.airhistory.net/photo/172274/PH-KFE)

marijn
January 14th, 2023, 02:29
Unfortenately I am not a repainter but nevertheless I fly this machine a lot. Together with the old trustworthy HS 748 they are my favourite turboprops in FSX.

Brian_Gladden
January 14th, 2023, 15:07
Whomever did the ANE paint must not know the registration formatting for US aircraft. There is never another letter after the "N" except in some pre-WWII aircraft that are NC- or NX-. Kind of a pet peve of mine on repaints.

vonstroheim
January 15th, 2023, 16:28
Oh my... This is going to take ages...

https://i.imgur.com/ejCoNpc.jpg

hertzie
January 16th, 2023, 01:57
"Oh my... This is going to take ages..."

But I'll wait paitiently, no worries :wavey:

hertzie.

marijn
January 16th, 2023, 04:35
Whoow! She already looks good!

vonstroheim
January 16th, 2023, 12:16
Thanks for kind words... Slow progress nonetheless...

https://i.imgur.com/chFrIuu.jpg

huub vink
January 16th, 2023, 12:33
Thanks for kind words... Slow progress nonetheless...

https://i.imgur.com/chFrIuu.jpg

Don't worry, we are patient people! And what you consider slow is perhaps not as slow as you think. Looking forward to your finished repaint.

Cheers,
Huub

menef
January 17th, 2023, 00:14
Thank you vonstroheim (http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/member.php/94808-vonstroheim) !
I'm really interested about this paint :encouragement::encouragement::encouragement:

vonstroheim
January 19th, 2023, 15:08
Struggling with tail...

https://i.imgur.com/jKwCRzI.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/s0xX4KH.jpg

marijn
January 19th, 2023, 23:46
Yeah, I looked at the dds.files and saw that the tail is their twice (?) probably to keep the paint in place when moving the rudder or so.
But...you are making progress and she is looking better every time!

vonstroheim
January 20th, 2023, 17:22
Right side tail almost ready!

https://i.imgur.com/QegrW2D.jpg

To do: Left side & all markings... not there yet...

marijn
January 21st, 2023, 04:37
Good job! I think you are making fantastic progress☺

hertzie
January 21st, 2023, 09:55
A Dutch expression translated in Canadian:
"Cologne and Aachen were not built in 1 day either" :biggrin-new::biggrin-new::biggrin-new:

So take your time, have a break sometimes and you'll manage :applause:

hertzie.

vonstroheim
January 22nd, 2023, 05:06
"Cologne and Aachen were not built in 1 day either"

That's a relief! Thanks! Indeed it's going to be hard to find the proper markings (can't find good enough hi-res pictures of PH-KFE or similar). Any idea what fonts are used here?

https://i.imgur.com/KFkq4oh.jpg

huub vink
January 24th, 2023, 22:46
That's a relief! Thanks! Indeed it's going to be hard to find the proper markings (can't find good enough hi-res pictures of PH-KFE or similar). Any idea what fonts are used here?



Looks very already very nice! I have been a passenger on the F-27 Troopships from our Royal Netherlands Air Force many times (Free trips to the UK!), but I never flew the with the civil version.....

The font for the registration is the official RLD font (RijksLuchtvaartDienst/Governmental Air Service). I think the official font used by the KLM is called Noa and they use mainly the bold version. I have never been able to locate a free version. But it is very close to (standard) Arial in bold, a bit modified in width or height. Although the purists might grind their teeth, it is definitely close enough for me.

The Fokker logo at the end from the fuselage is the standard "modern" Fokker logo.

Cheers,
Huub

vonstroheim
January 25th, 2023, 10:04
Although the purists might grind their teeth, it is definitely close enough for me...

Thanks Huub for feedback! Yes I'm getting a bit closer... I did find online a few resources (aviationmegastore.com sells a NLM Fokker decal for modellers). The decal preview is not big enough, but that will do... Wikipedia has the Fokker logo. Arial/bold/italic will do for the "F27" text below logo. Thanks for tip.

https://i.imgur.com/Yv8l646.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Rx8EPUG.jpg

At the very minimum it's flyable!

https://i.imgur.com/E2wU1wC.jpg

Some glitches I can't or won't fix... I'm using an old Paint Shop Pro 8.1,and I'm not good with layers, so shadows and such are missing...

https://i.imgur.com/pzffPd9.jpg

If you or any SOH visitor feels he can improve this NLM repaint, please do, you're very welcome! It will be a collaborative effort.
Here's my zip file (includes a version with no markings): 89613

huub vink
January 27th, 2023, 13:18
Thanks van Stroheim. I will have (hopefully) have a look this weekend. You have done a nice job, thanks for that.

Cheers,
Huub

marijn
January 28th, 2023, 04:14
Thanks a lot von Stroheim, she's looking very beautifull:applause:

huub vink
January 28th, 2023, 09:17
Thank you all, first of all for bringing this lovely model to my attention. I had completely missed the release last year. The model is an absolute gem! It looks nice, flies, nice and can be flown full reality and in easy mode.

And secondly, thank you van Stroheim for this lovely repaint. When you hadn't pointed out the anomalies I most likely would have missed them.

https://i.imgur.com/HV4pYoT.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/TScqRhN.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/mrFNzMx.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Twdh0uL.jpg

There only one minor remark I have, which like the earlier mentioned anomalies I normally would not have noticed. But as I had a every close look, I realised the real aircraft had the registration painted at the lower port wing.

https://i.imgur.com/X3f4bm9.jpg

Thanks again,
Huub

huub vink
January 29th, 2023, 07:47
An early pre-view. Still a lot work to do (And I will give the external power unit a more military colour....).

It is actually the wrong version. But the RNAF originally flew the F.27-100 and F.27-300 in the same colours as its predecessor the DC-3/C-47. The aircraft with registration C-1 was used as VIP flight. Starting in 1971 all aircraft were repainted in a standard NATO camouflage scheme. But in 1994 the aircraft C-1 and C-2 were again repainted in a semi civil scheme. Similar to the original scheme, but without the dayglow orange.

As I couldn't have van Stroheim doing all the hard work, I decided to do this reasonably simple scheme.

https://i.imgur.com/ECBZ0YB.jpg

When I arrived at Soesterberg AB in 1978, the Met Office was located in the building right behind the aircraft. It was original the fighter group building. When a F.27 left or arrived, it was impossible to talk to each other inside. In 1980 the Met Office disappeared to bunker 500 and went underground.

The building on top of the hill was the canteen and gift shop. Under the hill was bunker 44. A bunker constructed by the Germans during WWII. Until 1980 it was still in use as back-up in case of thread.

The airfield is closed now. A funny thing: The German bunker 44 which was finished in 1942 is still there. Bunker 500 which was finished in 1980 is already gone.......

Cheers,
Huub

huub vink
January 29th, 2023, 12:47
The Dutchmen here, will most probably recognise the "Loosdrechtse plassen" and the river the "Lek".

https://i.imgur.com/WWS9za5.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/vBSvmhg.jpg

Cheers,
Huub

vonstroheim
January 29th, 2023, 14:03
...I realised the real aircraft had the registration painted at the lower port wing...

Bedankt voor je advies! (Thanks for your advice!) But not quite ready yet for release... And bedankt for the new RNLAF repaints!

https://i.imgur.com/gm7tdQy.jpg

Scenery: NL2000 EHSB, of course...

huub vink
January 30th, 2023, 00:04
Scenery: NL2000 EHSB, of course...

Of course! I see you have the "post operational" version of NL2000 version installed. The former airfield has changed quite a bit in recent years. It has become a preserved nature area and also houses the National Military Museum. The main runway is still there, as are many buildings, including the shelters. The short runway has partly been removed, and this area is now used for soaring.
For the construction of the museum some of the old hangars were demolished.

I have the "active" 1980 version installed as I was based a Soesterberg AB in this period. Although the scenery is not fully accurate, it contains enough details to bring back a lot of nice memories. It is good to feel 22 years old again :biggrin-new:

About the F.27 model, I noticed some "errors" in my repaint and I still want to tinker with the spec maps a bit. I have the feeling the generic spec maps make the model look a bit pale and a bit too glossy.

Cheers,
Huub

huub vink
January 31st, 2023, 13:02
https://i.imgur.com/QXUCIip.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/TjYvpJr.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/vTTlwGf.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/W2cbHxv.jpg

Cheers,
Huub

vonstroheim
January 31st, 2023, 14:39
Trying something much easier...

https://i.imgur.com/iKntGN7.jpg


I have the feeling the generic spec maps make the model look a bit pale and a bit too glossy...

Your RNLAF Fokker is getting great! Any luck with spec map? Yes in some condition the fuselage is way too shiny...

https://i.imgur.com/26tqGEX.jpg

huub vink
February 1st, 2023, 04:59
Your RNLAF Fokker is getting great! Any luck with spec map? Yes in some condition the fuselage is way too shiny...

Not really. I tried nearly all options I could think of, but I couldn't find a satisfying solution with the spec maps. I hope for somebody somebody who is handy with MLDmat or a similar program, who can edit the mdl file.
Now I have a close to white spec map, with a negative black & white image of the normal textures. Anything darker will make the model look like it is made of glass. I have used the alphas for the spec map included in the original textures.

Not great, but the best I can manage.

Cheers,
Huub

huub vink
February 1st, 2023, 12:28
Trying something much easier...

Nice, hopefully the Finnish flag on the tail doesn't give too much problems.

Cheers,
Huub

falcon409
February 1st, 2023, 14:07
A real masterpiece of modeling in the VC. Very impressive. I found, as you may already know, that the Army used the F27 for it's Golden Knights Parachute Team and it was also used for a time by FedEx. Two possible liveries.

vonstroheim
February 1st, 2023, 14:47
Nice, hopefully the Finnish flag on the tail doesn't give too much problems...

Way easier than NLM! That's a relief... Stay tuned... The real OH-LKB is a F27-200, not a 500... no big deal...

https://i.imgur.com/15tYdZq.png

vonstroheim
February 3rd, 2023, 12:39
OH-LKB ready to fly! Far from perfect, especially around the nose, but looks ok from a distance...

https://i.imgur.com/wvDq0pG.jpg

My zip file includes also the latest version or NLM PH-KFE: 89699 Feel free to improve and upload it here, or elsewhere...

huub vink
February 4th, 2023, 14:30
Thanks von Stroheim. The RNAF repaints is finished and uploaded, so it should be available in the library soon.

Enjoy,
Huub

https://i.imgur.com/sFMsvVx.jpg

vonstroheim
February 4th, 2023, 18:41
Got it! Very nice repaint! Thank you Huub!

huub vink
February 5th, 2023, 05:32
I like your windows.... I've used the ones from the white textures. Those from the the Air Inter repaints are indeed better.

https://i.imgur.com/jPGcD8A.jpg

huub vink
February 6th, 2023, 04:59
Sorry, but I couldn't resist....... (And does anyone notice...)

https://i.imgur.com/7vCsq3Y.jpg


von Stroheim, are you sure about the direction of the registration at the top of the wing? As it looks a bit odd.... My feeling tell me it is upside down.

Cheers,
Huub

William Njurmi
February 6th, 2023, 07:53
It is a small thing, but reg. is upside down and if it was on top it would on the right wing. OH-LKB flew for Korean Airlines and Icelandair before Finnair. At Finnair they served intermediate service between Convairs and ATRs.

marijn
February 6th, 2023, 08:56
You're at Turku airport? :jump:

Nice to have more repaints for this beautifull aircraft! Thanks a lot von Stroheim and Huub Vink

vonstroheim
February 6th, 2023, 14:28
von Stroheim, are you sure about the direction of the registration at the top of the wing? As it looks a bit odd.... My feeling tell me it is upside down.

You're probably right... I'll fix that asap... I relied on JustFlight F27 Finnair repaint by Carsten Gurk for clues, but looks like I got it wrong! Nice ground power unit!


You're at Turku airport?

Yes it's from FSNordic (https://files.fsnordic.net/sceneries/turku-eftu)! Nice EFTU scenery...

vonstroheim
February 6th, 2023, 17:18
It is a small thing, but reg. is upside down and if it was on top it would on the right wing...

Like this?

https://i.imgur.com/NHcX2yy.jpg

huub vink
February 6th, 2023, 22:57
You're at Turku airport? :jump:

Yes I am, but as van Stroheim already spotted, I did repaint the ground power unit in Finnair colours. The texture for the Finnair power unit is in the attachment of this post


Like this?

Yes, indeed, however I think it is on the wrong wing now (I will check later).

edit: Looked everywhere, but wasn't able to find the answer.

Cheers,
Huub

William Njurmi
February 8th, 2023, 06:56
https://www.eztoys.com/finnair-fokker-fairchild-f-27-reg-oh-lkb-aero-classics-1-400.html

https://pienoismallit.net/galleria/malli_14051/

From the model world. Very hard to find a picture looking downwards.

vonstroheim
February 8th, 2023, 09:48
...Very hard to find a picture looking downwards.

Yes indeed! Thanks for research. So some F27 have markings on top of right wing, some have not...

In any case, here's the latest version of the F27 Finnair as shown in post #40, with Huub's ground power unit: 89766