Carrier Ops (continuation) from MSFS

[jmig]

A discussion on what DCS modules to purchase developed in the MSFS 2020 forum. A few thoughts.

I agree that the Flaming Cliffs module is a great first purchase. The F-15 alone is worth the price, and I (think?) you may get the Nevada/Nellis map with it.

As for Carrier Ops, unless someone really desires the F/A-18C, I suggest the free T45C be used for Carrier Ops until you are comfortable with traps. The T-45C, at least for me, is a lot easier to land on a carrier.

If you prefer to blow up sh..stuff the A-10 (paid version) is an excellent choice. If you need a fast mover, look into the F-16C. It too is excellent at blowing up things, both in the air and on the ground.

I have the F-86 and enjoy flying it in the pattern. I have not attempted any of the addon campaigns.

If you like the WWII era, the new Normandy map is excellent, and I have both the P-47 and P-51 to go with the two WWII maps. I have never survived a dog fight in the P-51. However, the graphics of getting your ass shot off are amazing.

I do not have any of the former Soviet aircraft. Having spent three years on nuclear alert during the Cold War, I have no desire to fly any USSR aircraft, but that is just me.

I do have the UH1 Huey, however, I have never tried to fly it. so, I can't say much about helicopters. I have read, however, that the flight models are excellent.

Just my thoughts.

[rvn817j]

John (and All),

I have some experience with the F/A-18 around the carrier in DCS (and RW in the S-3A) and always use the "Missions" menu from F/A-18 and Supercarrier. There is a list of things I do and usually land in one piece. (I can list the procedure if anyone is interested.)

My question for John is how do you setup around the carrier using the T-45? Thanks.

[jmig]

John (and All),

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My question for John is how do you setup around the carrier using the T-45? Thanks.

Jay, Under Instant Action, the T-45 has two FAM flight missions. One is day and the other night. Both will put you engines running on the deck. You can then taxi to the catapult and launch using the normal procedures.

[Javis]

Ok, thanks John and Jay for setting this up ! Let's see if i can make this my second home here. ;-)

Because of all the Controller tribulations (not really sure i will be happy with having to setup controls for each and every aircraft i want to fly. Seems quite redundant to me atleast regarding aircraft controls and other basic operations. It's not like there's an *option* to either use this format or not, right ?...) i have only been fooling around with the P-51 around the default scenery.( got to say i could do this for hours what with the fantastic Fly-By View and totally amazing Merlin Sound ! ;-). Since i don't have either the F-14, F-18 or T-45 yet i have only been aboard the Russian carrier with the SU-33 (i think it was...) Nothing much to see there so i leave it maybe for later.

I will now install the T-45 and see what's up on the Nimitz deck. In the videos i saw it looks absolutely stunning ! I did get the impression that the deck crew only help you with launching (which looks awesome!) but not with parking after trap ?

One general question about DCS if i may: AFAIK it's 'only' prop-/jetfighters that are available sofar, right ? Is there any sign of f.i. a B-17 or even a C-47 we might welcome sooner or later in DCS ? And re carriers what about a COD, Greyhound, Trader, Tracker or Hawkeye ? Anything like that in the DCS pipeline that you guys know of ?....

Thanks very much sofar, gents, very exited about it, can't wait for my first launch ! ;-))

Cheers,
Jan

[jmig]

Ok, thanks John and Jay for setting this up ! Let's see if i can make this my second home here. ;-)

Because of all the Controller tribulations (not really sure i will be happy with having to setup controls for each and every aircraft i want to fly. Seems quite redundant to me atleast regarding aircraft controls and other basic operations. It's not like there's an *option* to either use this format or not, right ?...) i have only been fooling around with the P-51 around the default scenery.( got to say i could do this for hours what with the fantastic Fly-By View and totally amazing Merlin Sound ! ;-). Since i don't have either the F-14, F-18 or T-45 yet i have only been aboard the Russian carrier with the SU-33 (i think it was...) Nothing much to see there so i leave it maybe for later.

I will now install the T-45 and see what's up on the Nimitz deck. In the videos i saw it looks absolutely stunning ! I did get the impression that the deck crew only help you with launching (which looks awesome!) but not with parking after trap ?

One general question about DCS if i may: AFAIK it's 'only' prop-/jetfighters that are available sofar, right ? Is there any sign of f.i. a B-17 or even a C-47 we might welcome sooner or later in DCS ? And re carriers what about a COD, Greyhound, Trader, Tracker or Hawkeye ? Anything like that in the DCS pipeline that you guys know of ?....

Thanks very much sofar, gents, very exited about it, can't wait for my first launch ! ;-))

Cheers,
Jan

Jan, It is not as complicated as it sounds. Most of the basic controls are standard from one airplane to another. If you set up the pitch and roll axises to your controller, they will work for other aircraft. Most of the controls that or commands that apply to one aircraft will apply to the rest. Where you will get differences is between specific controls. For example, the bomb arming switches may be different from the P-51 to P-47. Jets like the F-16 and F-18 will have different weapons command because they access the weapons differently.

As of now, the deck crew only help launch you. They may be some LSO radio calls, but I don't use the radio, so I can't say for sure.

Since DCS is a combat simulator, only aircraft with weapons capability (there are a couple exceptions) are controllable. Aircraft like C-17, B-52, or AI only.

Down the road...Razban is working on a F-15E, which like the F-14 should have an AI WSO. Eagle Dynamics should release the Apache soon. Dino is coming out with a DCS version of the 339. There is a free A-29 Tucano out there and a free F-22. I "think" someone is working on the F-4 Phantom, but I can't say for sure.

Be aware that Eagle Dynamics often releases an "Early Release". The aircraft will be half price and will have maybe two thirds of the weapons and systems operational. They then add weapons and weapons systems over a couple of years until the airplane is finished. I think it is a good deal. All the major systems work, and the price is right. To give you an example the F-18C just recently got ground mapping radar and the weapons which depend on it. You could drop bombs before, just not the latest smart weapons.

I hope this helps you.

[Essex]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVheIj1kXg8

[Dimus]

Jan, to complete on nice freeware there are these:

C-130 with droppable loads: Discord channel:https://discord.gg/pZDB8X6r Latest version:https://mega.nz/folder/zJIDACSD#oqif8uEN1N2MNwIJAJ2mPQ
Fantastic community A-4C-E: https://heclak.github.io/community-a4e-c/
Pretty descent A-29 Tucano: https://github.com/luizrenault/a-29b-community

I was also annoyed to have to set up controls for each plane but when you dig into the details the official modules have you understand that it is important.

With all these you have enough to keep your hands full for a while. For carrier ops the ultimates would be the F-18 and F-14 but I would suggest to wait for a sale to get them as ED often have them. Train in the T-45 first, as a real naval aviator would.

The F-18 is the more complete module but the F-14 is unique in "atmosphere" and character. The AI RIO and his chatter alone is a hoot!

[rvn817j]

Good to see you all here.

John, I took a shot at the T-45, installed it, launched and found it a little "sensitive" (unstable) around the carrier. For a "free" aircraft, however, it is pretty nice.

I have found the F/A-18 to be very stable around the carrier (as long as you are flying in the envelop) and easier to bring aboard than my (brief) experience with the T-45. If you are really looking for a carrier "qual" you might want to check out the F/A-18.

In addition to the "free" / community supported aircraft mentioned, the A-4 looks really good and it is on v2.0 (so it has been in development for awhile). This is also a carrier aircraft.

I'm going to install the A-4 tonight and conduct some carrier ops. I'll report back.

Other free aircraft I know of are the F-22, the C-130 (Super Hercules) mentioned above, Rafale, Lockheed U-2, EA-6B,....etc. (go to https://forums.eagle.ru/forum/69-mods-and-apps/ to see a bunch of "mods" including aircraft).

[Javis]

Wow! Thanks for all the tips, guys, much appreciated ! :D

First and foremost i need to get my T-45 show up in DCS. I think i followed a OvGME setup tut to the letter but still no T-45 in DCS. I just plopped the T-45 folder in the DCSWorld/Mods folder to see what happens. Upon loading DCS a message appeared saying that the T-45 was not a valid file and therefor denied. Ok, so that's clear.

I then installed OvGME as adviced by a DCS mod install advisory. Here's how it looks after setting up the config and placing the T-45 folder where it should be (according to the tut) :

https://i.ibb.co/cDLn1f7/ovgmeset.jpg

Do you see anything wrong here ?

Must say i cannot find the VNAO_T45 anywhere in the DCSWorld folder. Should OvGME place it in the DCSWorld/Mods/aircraft folder along with the Spitfire, SU-25, SU-33, TF-51D ? It is not there....

Would love to hear what i'm doing wrong....

Thanks much !

[rvn817j]

Jan - I did my setup the way it is suggested at the A-4 Community webpage https://08jne01.github.io/community-a4e-c/ . They direct you to install file(s) to

C:\Users\username\Saved Games\DCS\Mods\Aircraft

I don't run Steam, so no comment re Steam, but this worked for me when I installed the T-45.

Last evening I did carrier approaches with the F/A-18, T-45 and A-4. The best experience (also most expensive) is the F/A-18. It has great HUD and HUD symbology (like the velocity vector) along with MFDs that are easily visible and can be configured to be of great help in the pattern (I use HSI and HUD on my MFDs). Its is solid in the pattern and on approach when properly configured. I believe auto flaps is one of the reasons for its solid feel.


The T-45 is difficult for a couple reasons. I find the HUD difficult to see, I am not able to get all information on the MFDs that I can get on the F/A-18 (primarily the TACAN indication for the carrier). These issues may be overcome with more use of the T-45, but my sim time is limited so that may not happen. The T-45 flaw that I can not figure out is that I landed it 2x in a manner where the hook should have captured a wire, it did not! There is a problem with the T-45 hook engaging a wire. For those of you that are going to use the T-45 you should investigate and sort out this problem before you get frustrated.

I did not spend too much time with the A-4. You do not have a HUD or velocity vector, so it is speed (indexer), line up, rate of decent, and FLOLS (or the DCS version of that). I was able to get the A-4 arrested on the second attempt. Once aboard you have to have differential braking because there is no Nose Wheel Steering, so I did not taxi around the carrier deck.

Last evening results: F/A-18 - 1 for 1; T-45 - 0 for 2; A-4 - 1 for 2.

Good luck all.

P.S. Forgot to say I use TrackIR which helps looking around.

[Mach3DS]

Ok, thanks John and Jay for setting this up ! Let's see if i can make this my second home here. ;-)

Because of all the Controller tribulations (not really sure i will be happy with having to setup controls for each and every aircraft i want to fly. Seems quite redundant to me atleast regarding aircraft controls and other basic operations. It's not like there's an *option* to either use this format or not, right ?...) i have only been fooling around with the P-51 around the default scenery.( got to say i could do this for hours what with the fantastic Fly-By View and totally amazing Merlin Sound ! ;-). Since i don't have either the F-14, F-18 or T-45 yet i have only been aboard the Russian carrier with the SU-33 (i think it was...) Nothing much to see there so i leave it maybe for later.

I will now install the T-45 and see what's up on the Nimitz deck. In the videos i saw it looks absolutely stunning ! I did get the impression that the deck crew only help you with launching (which looks awesome!) but not with parking after trap ?

One general question about DCS if i may: AFAIK it's 'only' prop-/jetfighters that are available sofar, right ? Is there any sign of f.i. a B-17 or even a C-47 we might welcome sooner or later in DCS ? And re carriers what about a COD, Greyhound, Trader, Tracker or Hawkeye ? Anything like that in the DCS pipeline that you guys know of ?....

Thanks very much sofar, gents, very exited about it, can't wait for my first launch ! ;-))

Cheers,
Jan

Welcome to DCS Javis! I have to say, you will love it. For carrier aviation, there's nothing that compares. Not even close. And if I may make a recommendation - F-14 Tomcat. It comes with both A/B models. And multiple A variants. And the U.S.S. Forrestal. Probably the best simulation I've ever flown. Down to the "walkman" tape player you can activate to listen to your favorite music on! Including the FFWD and RWD functions and sounds! A true 1980s simulation.

[jmig]

Good to see you all here.

John, I took a shot at the T-45, installed it, launched and found it a little "sensitive" (unstable) around the carrier. For a "free" aircraft, however, it is pretty nice.

I have found the F/A-18 to be very stable around the carrier (as long as you are flying in the envelop) and easier to bring aboard than my (brief) experience with the T-45. If you are really looking for a carrier "qual" you might want to check out the F/A-18...



For me it is the opposite. The T-45 is stable and easy to get into the groove. I am having a time mastering the F-18C. Landing it correctly is hard for me. I have over 2800 RL hours in military aircraft (mostly B-52 and F-4). I can easily land the F-15 (Easy peezy), F-5 (a touch more difficult because of the wind loading, the F-16 (just watch your decent rate at touchdown) F-86 (Speed on final is life). But the damn F-18, it is impossible for me to stay on speed. Every time I turn final, she wants to stall, I increase thrust so when I roll out on short final, I am too fast. So, I chop the throttles point the nose at the touchdown zone, almost stall again to the point a quick 100% then cut, cut, cut saves the landing. Not by the book! LSO would fill up his book with comments.

Maybe I should just accept the fact that I am USAF. :) Give me two miles of concrete baby.

[Javis]

Jan - I did my setup the way it is suggested at the A-4 Community webpage https://08jne01.github.io/community-a4e-c/ . They direct you to install file(s) to

C:\Users\username\Saved Games\DCS\Mods\Aircraft

I don't run Steam, so no comment re Steam, but this worked for me when I installed the T-45.

Last evening I did carrier approaches with the F/A-18, T-45 and A-4. The best experience (also most expensive) is the F/A-18. It has great HUD and HUD symbology (like the velocity vector) along with MFDs that are easily visible and can be configured to be of great help in the pattern (I use HSI and HUD on my MFDs). Its is solid in the pattern and on approach when properly configured. I believe auto flaps is one of the reasons for its solid feel.


The T-45 is difficult for a couple reasons. I find the HUD difficult to see, I am not able to get all information on the MFDs that I can get on the F/A-18 (primarily the TACAN indication for the carrier). These issues may be overcome with more use of the T-45, but my sim time is limited so that may not happen. The T-45 flaw that I can not figure out is that I landed it 2x in a manner where the hook should have captured a wire, it did not! There is a problem with the T-45 hook engaging a wire. For those of you that are going to use the T-45 you should investigate and sort out this problem before you get frustrated.

I did not spend too much time with the A-4. You do not have a HUD or velocity vector, so it is speed (indexer), line up, rate of decent, and FLOLS (or the DCS version of that). I was able to get the A-4 arrested on the second attempt. Once aboard you have to have differential braking because there is no Nose Wheel Steering, so I did not taxi around the carrier deck.

Last evening results: F/A-18 - 1 for 1; T-45 - 0 for 2; A-4 - 1 for 2.

Good luck all.

P.S. Forgot to say I use TrackIR which helps looking around.


Thanks very much, Jay, particularly how to install mods ! :D

Took a little effort of course, i am a so called 'Flying Dutchman' so my Windows is in the dutch language so, to begin with, there's no such thing as a 'Users' folder at C:\. No problem because i have used that a lot (it's actually called 'Gebruikers' which means, yes, 'Users' ;-) But i didn't know that went on with 'Opgeslagen Spellen' as 'Saved Games'.. Took a while before the quarter dropped.. Also had create Mods\Aircraft myself but it turned out to work alright. Finally my T-45 turned up in DCS/ Quick Mission. Hurray!

The thing is though that steering the T-45 on the deck is quite problematic. Ended up between the fish most of the time. Also, at first the launcer recognised me but later on no more. (does it matter which of the T-45's in the menu listing i choose ?...) Atm it's just too difficult to line up on the cat because of the minimal nosewheel steering (there's no left/right brake available is there ?...)

Anyway, I spend a great time on the deck watching F-14 and F-18 launces and traps. Absolutely fantastic ! Already worth the price for the carrier package i'd say ! Wow!!

I found all the view keys to look around, also truly fantastic, but is it like we actually cannot 'move' around the deck ? You know, like we are walking ? Atleast i haven't been able to find keys or key combo's that let me move along the lateral or longitudinal axes. Actually i find this hard to believe, what with all the meticulous work that must have gone into creating this superb carrier model. Far above anything else i have ever seen in a sim !

Also, i figure selecting the T-45 day mission and then, at the Fly Menu selecting either the F-14 or F-18, is not the correct way to just enjoy the carrier ops on the deck. Both aircraft launch, do a circuit around the carrier and then trap and park. I can imagine we can also enjoy watching 'real' launch or trap operations where jets launch or trap one after the other ? Or is that too much to ask for ?

I'll give the T-45 another go but i do hope there might be left/right braking available. Is the minimal steering a known problem with the T-45 ? ( i can turn on a nickle with the P-51...)

Very exited i am on board the carrier now, i'm sure on of these days i'll get to launch as well one way or another.

Thanks a lot for your help, Jay, much appreciated !

[Mach3DS]

Javis, there is a free camera option. Also you can unlock the camera by press LALT+F2. Then use the mouse to move the camera point around. numpad "*" & "/" moves the camera distance from the object, while RCNTL+"*" or "/" increases or decreases the FOV (zoom). You can even change the Aperture blur in DCS. The camera settings are truly mind boggling. The Carrier has some specific hot keys for points on the carrier deck, such as going to each CAT position or to the LSO station. I believe these are something like RCNTRL+F10 or F9. I don't recall exactly ATM.

[rvn817j]

Jan - For steering on the carrier deck you need to have Nose Wheel Steering (NWS). Assign the Nose Wheel Steering to a button on your joystick and when you push that button you can make sharp (sometimes very sharp) turns using rudder pedals for steering. If no rudder pedals maybe try assigning your rudder movement to arrow keys. Hope that helps.

P.S. John - I always prefer 2 miles of concrete. Back in the old days it meant shore duty, the "O" Club and a large, soft rack (double meaning intended).

[jmig]

Thanks very much, Jay, particularly how to install mods ! :D ...... the minimal nosewheel steering (there's no left/right brake available is there ?...)

Anyway, I spend a great time on the deck watching F-14 and F-18 launces and traps. Absolutely fantastic ! Already worth the price for the carrier package i'd say ! Wow!!

I found all the view keys to look around, also truly fantastic, but is it like we actually cannot 'move' around the deck ? You know, like we are walking ? Atleast i haven't been able to find keys or key combo's that let me move along the lateral or longitudinal axes. Actually i find this hard to believe, what with all the meticulous work that must have gone into creating this superb carrier model. Far above anything else i have ever seen in a sim !

...

I'll give the T-45 another go but i do hope there might be left/right braking available. Is the minimal steering a known problem with the T-45 ? ( i can turn on a nickle with the P-51...)

Very exited i am on board the carrier now, i'm sure on of these days i'll get to launch as well one way or another.

Thanks a lot for your help, Jay, much appreciated !

Did you turn on Nose Wheel Steering? (S key) If you have rudder pedals you have left and right wheel brakes under the axis commands.

[Victory103]

jmig, surprised to read about your Hornet issues based on your background. I flew the 18 alot waiting on the F-14 to release and most agree the Hornet flies as if on rails, as a FBW aircraft should. There are several IRL guys that made carrier tutorials for the Hornet and many, many gamers that have as well. I would use the Lex series (former USMC 18 guy) for some basics. Maintaining AoA is key and just leave it there, since I'm not getting IRL graded, I also "spot" the deck by placing the VVI/FPM where I need it.
https://youtu.be/bLOZJ0tpzRs

[jmig]

jmig, surprised to read about your Hornet issues based on your background. I flew the 18 alot waiting on the F-14 to release and most agree the Hornet flies as if on rails, as a FBW aircraft should. There are several IRL guys that made carrier tutorials for the Hornet and many, many gamers that have as well. I would use the Lex series (former USMC 18 guy) for some basics. Maintaining AoA is key and just leave it there, since I'm not getting IRL graded, I also "spot" the deck by placing the VVI/FPM where I need it.
https://youtu.be/bLOZJ0tpzRs

I think there is something wrong with my Hornet setup or configuration. My problem is the VV is all over the place. Even Caging it seems off. It is hard to fly when the VV is in the top left them bounces to the bottom. I cannot keep the VV in the E bracket. So, I point the nose at the runway and use my F-4 experience to judge airspeed, descent, etc.

This afternoon I tried it again using a simple mission I made at Tonapaw. After two approaches and touch and goes, one straight in from 15 miles and the other a pull out of takeoff into the downwind. Both gave me the trouble mentioned above. I then went into the mission editor and change the aircraft to the T-45. No problems. VV and E bracket worked as expected, and I touched down on speed. Took off and changed aircraft to the F-16. This one worked too.

So, I am scratching my head as to what can be wrong.

[Dimus]

I find the Tomcat more responsive on throttle adjustments than the Hornet so I usually do better traps on the big cat.

John, have you tried ATC in the Hornet? It makes things easier as it automatically adjusts power to give you optimum AOA. You then just point the nose to keep the ball.

[jmig]

I find the Tomcat more responsive on throttle adjustments than the Hornet so I usually do better traps on the big cat.

John, have you tried ATC in the Hornet? It makes things easier as it automatically adjusts power to give you optimum AOA. You then just point the nose to keep the ball.


Yes, I have. It has made things worse.

[rvn817j]

John - I attempted a search in the DCS Forums (using "velocity vector" as the search term). Many pages were returned by that search (and I only looked at the first 2) and nothing really jumped out at me (except the "uncage" step you've already taken). I've had some weird things happen to me with my computer over the years and many times it was equipment related (power supply not powerful enough or RAM chip issue or under-powered graphics). I'm not saying any of these things are your issue.

Everyone else (like Jan), DCS is having a SALE! Flaming Cliffs 3 is 50% off at about $25. Other items are 30% to 50% off. Now is the time to add.

P.S. John - Just found this in DCS forums..."thanks guys. I've identified the issue. Resting my hand on the joystick causes a very slight yaw. When using TM analyzer the yaw axis moves around on its own." Victory103 may be on to something.

[Victory103]

That sounds like a binding or axis issue especially if ATC can't keep 8.1 degrees AOA. I generally start with Chuck's settings on my TM Warthog and adjust from there.

https://www.mudspike.com/chucks-guides-dcs-f-a-18c-hornet/

[Javis]

Bingo! Made it off the deck for the first time! Great fun! :cool:

Thanks mucho much for all the great tips, gentlemen ! Nosewheel steering and camera's A Okay ! Thanks again ! :encouragement:

Camera options need a lot of practise but the nosewheel steering works wonderful now (after i noticed i need to *hold* the button down..;-) Dunno if it's the T-45 or my fault but i sorta got stuck a bit on the shuttle (launch bar down) only with full power would the launch bar go over the end of the shuttle. Is that normal ?...

Not tried a trap of course, want to learn a bit about the T-45 first. For that matter, is it possible to fly the Goshawk from a landbase ? I see it only turn up in Instant Action, not in any of the other Mission options.... Can i fly it off the deck and then head for land in the distance and find an airfield there, land and then save and load next time ?

If i buy one or more sceneries, will i be able to fly the T-45 around there ?....

And thanks for the Sale Tip, Jay ! Alas i can't make use of it cause i bought my DCS copy via Steam. There's no DCS Sale to see there (yet ?...). I'd love to buy the F-14 and F-18 of course, pretty mucho expensive indeed but the Sale at DCS site says 'not compatible with Steam version'.... Bummer..

Thanks very much again, guys, i feel a big step forward with my first launch off the carrier deck ! :D

Oh, yeah, i haven't been able to find a way to play DCS in Windowed mode ?... Not possible ??....

Thanks!

[rvn817j]

Jan - I have to hold NWS button also when you want it engaged. Using rudder pedals get you some steering, but NWS allows you to steer nose wheel almost 90 degrees.

To move into launch shuttle, full power on T-45 is needed, so not unusual that you need it.

I don't know how much you paid on Steam for "DCS", but the whole DCS basic software package is FREE from DCS. You could start over with DCS standalone (that is NO Steam) for no charge (that would include the Caucasus map and the Mariannas map is free once DCS is installed). But do, at a minimum, add Flaming Cliffs 3 for $25 as it has more than $25 worth of aircraft. From the DCS Website -

"
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Fly the TF-51 Mustang and Su-25T attack jet for free!
Play all DCS World modules from one DCS World version.
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[jmig]

Bingo! Made it off the deck for the first time! Great fun! :cool:

Thanks mucho much for all the great tips, gentlemen ! Nosewheel steering and camera's A Okay ! Thanks again ! :encouragement:

Camera options need a lot of practise but the nosewheel steering works wonderful now (after i noticed i need to *hold* the button down..;-) Dunno if it's the T-45 or my fault but i sorta got stuck a bit on the shuttle (launch bar down) only with full power would the launch bar go over the end of the shuttle. Is that normal ?...

Not tried a trap of course, want to learn a bit about the T-45 first. For that matter, is it possible to fly the Goshawk from a landbase ? I see it only turn up in Instant Action, not in any of the other Mission options.... Can i fly it off the deck and then head for land in the distance and find an airfield there, land and then save and load next time ?

If i buy one or more sceneries, will i be able to fly the T-45 around there ?....

And thanks for the Sale Tip, Jay ! Alas i can't make use of it cause i bought my DCS copy via Steam. There's no DCS Sale to see there (yet ?...). I'd love to buy the F-14 and F-18 of course, pretty mucho expensive indeed but the Sale at DCS site says 'not compatible with Steam version'.... Bummer..

Thanks very much again, guys, i feel a big step forward with my first launch off the carrier deck ! :D

Oh, yeah, i haven't been able to find a way to play DCS in Windowed mode ?... Not possible ??....

Thanks!

Jan, There are a couple of T-45 missions out there. One has you taking off from and flying to a couple different airbases. You can create your own with the mission creator. It is not that hard to get the basics down. I don't think any of the other Maps have T-45 missions. Remember it is not a DCS supported aircraft.

I don't use and don't recommend the Steam version. I use the Reverb G2 VR headset. Steam VR will automatically load and then load DCS when the goggles are active. If I want to see the screen without using VR, I unplug the power on the VR goggles before starting DCS. I find it easier to set controllers and test stuff on the flat screen. later, I will fly it in VR.

[Dimus]

Jan, try the mission editor, it is really simple. For a simple flight you select a map, put a plane on an airbase and save it. You can select the starting state, i.e. cold and dark or running, on the apron or at the runway etc. set up weather, time, season and all that.

Once you get the hang of it you can add other stuff like adversaries or AI friendly flights, the lots.

[Javis]

I don't know how much you paid on Steam for "DCS", but the whole DCS basic software package is FREE from DCS. You could start over with DCS standalone (that is NO Steam) for no charge (that would include the Caucasus map and the Mariannas map is free once DCS is installed). But do, at a minimum, add Flaming Cliffs 3 for $25 as it has more than $25 worth of aircraft. From the DCS Website -


Thanks, Jay !

Yes, i wrote 'bought' re my Steam DCS copy, my fault because it actually is free too at Steam. Sorry. And all the other stuff you mention is included too. That's quite a great deal ! But the F-14 and F-18 a.o. are of course quite a bit of expensive snakes in the grass...( it's like getting a printer for next to nothing but Low and Behold once you run out of ink... ;-) I do find your suggestion to start-over via DCS itself a great idea and food for thought. I do have everything running pretty much to my content now though, so that's the only reason that withholds me from throwing everything overboard and start over. I will think about it. Thanks again!



Jan, There are a couple of T-45 missions out there. One has you taking off from and flying to a couple different airbases.

Thanks John ! That's exactly what i'm looking for ! Do you have a link maybe ? I went searching for T-45 missions but only found carrier missions. Did try them just so i know where to put them. Works fine so that's Ok.


You can create your own with the mission creator. It is not that hard to get the basics down. I don't think any of the other Maps have T-45 missions. Remember it is not a DCS supported aircraft.

Indeed! Found out a bit about the Mission Creator and got my first 'Mission' going : Parked hot at the ramp in the T-45, take-off, circuit and land. Bingo ! Ended up in a bowl of fire in between the trees because i kept pushing the wrong brakes button... Also flew above the UK during WWII but not the time to split hairs, right ? Hehe.. Got the picture of it a little bit now ( looks to be quite amazing what you can do with it! Wow!!) so the DCS world is about to be my oyster ! ( still would love a link to these base to base missions ! ;-)


I don't use and don't recommend the Steam version.

Why is that, John ?..

I've been using Steam for all my game stuff since i was born. Never ever a problem. Got a new computer ? Never ever a problem. Invoke Steam, enjoy a copious dinner et voila all my stuff back without so much as a how do you do. All the trials and tribulations i've read about MSFS simmers almost constantly in trouble with MSFS updates and the marketplace. I honestly don't know anything about that.

Next to MSFS a few of my fav games, ETS2, Transport Fever2, Asetto Corsa, PlanetZoo, i can't even begin to think about the tuckloads of mods i would have to reinstall myself if something happend to my computer or bought a new one (just last year, particularly for MSFS..;-) It's all taken care of by Steam. I'd easily say the best thing next to sliced bread. But that's only my opinion and experience of course.


Jan, try the mission editor, it is really simple. For a simple flight you select a map, put a plane on an airbase and save it. You can select the starting state, i.e. cold and dark or running, on the apron or at the runway etc. set up weather, time, season and all that.


Thanks, Dimus ! See above :cool:

[jmig]

...

Why is that, John ?..

I've been using Steam for all my game stuff since i was born. Never ever a problem. Got a new computer ? Never ever a problem. Invoke Steam, enjoy a copious dinner et voila all my stuff back without so much as a how do you do. All the trials and tribulations i've read about MSFS simmers almost constantly in trouble with MSFS updates and the marketplace. I honestly don't know anything about that.

Next to MSFS a few of my fav games, ETS2, Transport Fever2, Asetto Corsa, PlanetZoo, i can't even begin to think about the tuckloads of mods i would have to reinstall myself if something happend to my computer or bought a new one (just last year, particularly for MSFS..;-) It's all taken care of by Steam. I'd easily say the best thing next to sliced bread. But that's only my opinion and experience of course.



Thanks, Dimus ! See above :cool:

Probably because I am not much of a gamer. I have played games in the past. When my children were young, I would play FPS with them. Later I got into the Elder Scrolls series, especially Skyrim. all of these were purchased by CD or DVD. Then came Witcher I had to get Steam for it. I found it less convenient than a CD/DVD.

I had to use Steam VR to use my Reverb G2 in DCS. When loading DCS with the G2 active, I have to open VR Steam, which means hitting F4 a time or two to get the cursor out of DCS, then while looking at the flat screen put the cursor on Reset Position, drop the headset back on and hit the left mouse button. All the while, hoping the cursor hasn't moved off the Reset Position button. Finally, I am ready to go with DCS.

With MSFS, I have a button set to in/out VR. I put the headset on and hit that button, Volia I am in-game. MSFS allows me to set another button to reset my position. So, I do not need to take my headset off.

Christmas a year ago, in a weak moment, I purchased on sale Disnonnored2 and another famous game that takes place in ancient Grease. Over a year later, I haven't played either.

[jmig]

Links to some T-45 missions.

T-45C Goshawk 4v4 ACM MP with Virtual Mission Training System (VMTS) (digitalcombatsimulator.com) (https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3316285/)

T-45 VIP Taxi Caucasus with random destinations, weather and time (digitalcombatsimulator.com) (https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3320231/)

VNAO T-45C All-in-one Bombing Practice - with helper gates (digitalcombatsimulator.com) (https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3319779/)

The following are actually for the BAE Hawk, which is no longer available. However, using the Mission Editor you can change the aircraft to the T-45.

DCS World BAE Hawk - Mach Loop Revisited (digitalcombatsimulator.com) (https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/1690769/)

Sea Hawk (digitalcombatsimulator.com) (https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/2637668/)

[Mach3DS]

@javis, mission editor is simple and can be used to create VERY complex missions. It can utilize scripts, and do some amazing things. Anywhere from creating a mobile VORTAC station to creating AI Red Air that will actually execute a tactical BVR presentation with randomized tactics. Not just shoot and follow on until they die. Human Voice over Scripts can be added, and you can even create scripts to auto generate aircraft or ground units simply by clicking on the F10 map and then pasting the code into the scratch pad, all live in session. You can spawn altitude airspeed and heading. And simply place them at whatever distance you want via your mouse on the map. It's quite amazing actually. With the upcoming full implementation of the TrueSky and dynamic weather, it will look at lot more like MSFS. I saw rainbows in the latest 2022 video presentation from ED. In fact I know a guy who is able to inject live weather into the sim via code in discord using a bot. It's quite impressive.

[Javis]

Probably because I am not much of a gamer. I have played games in the past. When my children were young, I would play FPS with them. Later I got into the Elder Scrolls series, especially Skyrim. all of these were purchased by CD or DVD. Then came Witcher I had to get Steam for it. I found it less convenient than a CD/DVD.

I had to use Steam VR to use my Reverb G2 in DCS. When loading DCS with the G2 active, I have to open VR Steam, which means hitting F4 a time or two to get the cursor out of DCS, then while looking at the flat screen put the cursor on Reset Position, drop the headset back on and hit the left mouse button. All the while, hoping the cursor hasn't moved off the Reset Position button. Finally, I am ready to go with DCS.

With MSFS, I have a button set to in/out VR. I put the headset on and hit that button, Volia I am in-game. MSFS allows me to set another button to reset my position. So, I do not need to take my headset off.

Aha, Ok, i understand. Well, i have been holding off VR and still do. I am extremely interested in VR but, reading about it, i still have the feeling it's not really the time yet to be able to fully enjoy it without restrictions and possible frustration. I'm sitting on the fence, watching and still holding back.. ( in 2D ;-)


Christmas a year ago, in a weak moment, I purchased on sale Disnonnored2 and another famous game that takes place in ancient Grease.

Might have been Assassin's Creed Odyssey Ancient Creece ?....

I saw a video of that and was completely and totally blown away by the graphics ! Truth is that i don't care for all these blood guts and gore games. So, extremely very much surprised and utterly pleased i stumbled across the fact that Ubisoft, in its great wisdom, decided to get rid of all the violance, blood and gore and released a new version called "Assassin's Creed Discovery Tour Ancient Greece". Holy Moly!!! :dizzy:

It's just like they heared my wish when i was watching that video ! To be able to just walk around in 500 BC Athens in such breathtaking detail without having to hack someone's arm or head off. And not only walk, fly along with an eagle too or ride a horse ! Totally in love with this, well....'ungamed game' ! ( as is a US lady archeologist specialized in ancient Greece who is watching it together with the director of a US historical museum)

And that's not all, they did exactly the same with Assassin's Creed Odyssey Ancient Egypt ! (been walking around at the exact same spots for real many years ago !) Most wonderful and exiting time i spend in front of my monitor since loading up MSFS for the first time (and, not to forget, standing on the deck of the DCS Nimitz for the first time just recently ! ;-)


Links to some T-45 missions.

Thanks much, John ! :encouragement:

[Javis]

@javis, mission editor is simple and can be used to create VERY complex missions. It can utilize scripts, and do some amazing things. Anywhere from creating a mobile VORTAC station to creating AI Red Air that will actually execute a tactical BVR presentation with randomized tactics. Not just shoot and follow on until they die. Human Voice over Scripts can be added, and you can even create scripts to auto generate aircraft or ground units simply by clicking on the F10 map and then pasting the code into the scratch pad, all live in session. You can spawn altitude airspeed and heading. And simply place them at whatever distance you want via your mouse on the map. It's quite amazing actually. With the upcoming full implementation of the TrueSky and dynamic weather, it will look at lot more like MSFS. I saw rainbows in the latest 2022 video presentation from ED. In fact I know a guy who is able to inject live weather into the sim via code in discord using a bot. It's quite impressive.

Thanks Rick ! Yes, already at initial investigation i noticed the incredible usability of the DCS Mission Editor. I have a feeling i might have just as much fun playing around with it as i'll have flying this incredible sim. That it is simple and easy to use i found out quickly by placing my T-45 on an airfield apron somewhere in the UK ready to taxi without knowing next to nothing about it yet. Very intuitive indeed.

Saving a mission, alter it after reloading, and then playing it also works great. Fantastic really !

Once i feel comfortable with trapping my fav Tomcat i'll be all over it ! :D

[Javis]

First and fore most, i certainly do not mean to start another OT thread (i know, i'm good at that..), just think this is the place to ask. Just curious...

What do you guys think of 'The NOR Platform' ?

Anyone knows more about ? If we believe META (i had a girlfriend called Meta ;-) it's 'The future of Simulation' i.e. DCS meets MSFS....

https://youtu.be/xrL-uGGwgtg

What do you think ?...

[Javis]

I don't want to sound greedy but what's up with Heatblur Forrestal for DCS ?

There's nothing about it on the Heatblur website and just another video at their Facebook page.

I absolutely love the DCS Super Carrier but i wouldn't mind having the Forrestal next to that ( he says without even having performed a succesfull trap once...LOL) Made that big plastic model of the Forrestal when i was in my teens.

So do i understand correctly it is not available yet ?.... I read words like 'freeware' too, that can't be right, can it ?

I also understand now that the DCS F-14 is made by Heatblur ? Do i buy it from their website or from the DCS store ?

Thanks gents !

[Mach3DS]

It's at the stock DCS level of carrier features. I believe that they are trying to get it integrated into the Super Carrier level. More to come.

NOR is a break off of Heatblur. Heatblur merged with them a while back but broke it off almost as fast. A few people from the Heatblur team stuck around to produce it for META. I believe it's a Military Contract sim only.

[rvn817j]

Jan - My understanding is that the USS Forrestal is part of the F-14 module (from Heatblur in DCS store for $$$). According to the DCS "changelog" the USS Forrestal was added in OPENBETA update 2.7.7.14727. I am running DCS openbeta (it works fine), have the F-14 module, but have never checked to see if I can land on the USS Forrestal. Perhaps if you go to F-14 missions there may be a USS Forrestal mission available for the F-14. I will check that in the future and post.

[Dimus]

The Forrestal is already available to all in the mission editor. Just put it in a mission and start a flight on her deck. Not sure if it is the stable or open beta version only though (I use open beta).

You can check in the mission editor if you have the ability place it as a ship. currently it does not have the Supercarrier features, i.e. no interactive crew, but it is nicely modeled, plus you also have a smokestack blenching black smoke! :playful:

[Mach3DS]

The Forrestal was added as AI Carrier. Originally it was part of the Payware F-14 package. I believe there's enough community uproar that it will eventually get the Super Carrier treatment. But my guess is that only if you own the Supercarrier.

[Essex]

Jan - My understanding is that the USS Forrestal is part of the F-14 module (from Heatblur in DCS store for $$$). According to the DCS "changelog" the USS Forrestal was added in OPENBETA update 2.7.7.14727.

I don't use the openbeta, the Forrestal got added with the free trial of the F-14. It's still available after the end of the trial.

[Javis]

Thanks guys !

Two burning questions arise.... :

#1. How will i be able to find the time to actually fly an airplane here in DCS ?...

#2. How on earth will i ever be able to enjoy Carrier Ops in MSFS again ?...

That's it for the time being. Hehe

With each further DCS session another pair of socks blown away and for the umpteens time have to pick up my mouth from the floor. This is coming very very close to what i have always dreamed of re virtual carrier operations. Wow!! I say again Wow!!! :dizzy:

One of the truckload of things i would like to specifically thank the DCS dev team for is the water/sea animation around the ships. To me very important to make sailing ships come alive and look realistic. (and i have only seen it with calm weather sofar ! ;-). F.i. something totally lacking in MSFS.(I wonder what floatplanes will be like in DCS landing and taking off from water...) Particularly the bow wave is very well done. Love it!

Soooo, i've got my first Carrier Group going ! Sailing along at 25 knots with the Forrestal as the Leading ship. How about that ! :wink:

Forrestal appeared right there on the Ships listing so i presume i have the Open Beta too (via Steam). And what wonderful model it is !! I dressed it up with static aircraft and carrier vehicles (i particular LOVE the Mules, i would've loved to create those myself, just for fun. I have a 1/48 carrier diorama featuring the F-14 and lots of carrier vehicles and crew, all by Verlinden. Made the deck myself which was great fun. Can't discribe how much fun i have now reliving that in glorious digital capacity ! ;-) (this F-14 diorama is about 25 years old but always kept it dustfree along with a bunch of others. Because of my back i can't do plastic modeling anymore, long live computers ! )

Next endeavour will be to get some action going on the deck. Going well sofar, thanks to you guys, but still LOTS to learn.

Thanks again, gentlemen ! :encouragement:

P.S. I continue to be totally flabbergasted by everything that's possible with the Mission Editor and i suppose i have seen only about 5% sofar..;-)

[Javis]

NOR is a break off of Heatblur. Heatblur merged with them a while back but broke it off almost as fast. A few people from the Heatblur team stuck around to produce it for META. I believe it's a Military Contract sim only.

Aaha, Ok ! Just wandered why i stumbled over it accidently and never read a word about it at the various flightsim sites.

So it's sort of a P3D on steroids then. Looks amazing!

Thanks, Rick!

[centuryseries]

Two pages and no mention of the other great module - perhaps not as technically complex as the F-14/F-16 etc, but complex in that the systems are not the same as US aircraft - the Saab AJS-37 Viggen - not only is it a fast jet that excels at destroying ships, but it can also gather intelligence using it's pods that can later be used to locate targets, it can also carry the BK-90 Mjolnir self guided bomblet dispensers. Its one of the more fleshed out modules having been in early access for many years, and is soon to be completed and out of EA. Just be prepared to learn a little Swedish along the way.

[Dimus]

Two pages and no mention of the other great module - perhaps not as technically complex as the F-14/F-16 etc, but complex in that the systems are not the same as US aircraft - the Saab AJS-37 Viggen - not only is it a fast jet that excels at destroying ships, but it can also gather intelligence using it's pods that can later be used to locate targets, it can also carry the BK-90 Mjolnir self guided bomblet dispensers. Its one of the more fleshed out modules having been in early access for many years, and is soon to be completed and out of EA. Just be prepared to learn a little Swedish along the way.

I also love the Viggen, another Heatblur product. They seem to be able to inject real life and special flavor in their products.

There are so many others that are amazingly made, like the Razbam Harrier that really showed its potential after they transferred it from P3D. The Mirage 2000 is also one of my favorites. It is just that the subject was carrier ops.

[jmig]

Two pages and no mention of the other great module - perhaps not as technically complex as the F-14/F-16 etc, but complex in that the systems are not the same as US aircraft - the Saab AJS-37 Viggen - not only is it a fast jet that excels at destroying ships, but it can also gather intelligence using it's pods that can later be used to locate targets, it can also carry the BK-90 Mjolnir self guided bomblet dispensers. Its one of the more fleshed out modules having been in early access for many years, and is soon to be completed and out of EA. Just be prepared to learn a little Swedish along the way.

I can only speak for myself in answering your question.
1. Complexity of aircraft keeps me from learning everything. When I went to RTU/RAG for the F-4, it was six-months long full time. The first two months were just learning the systems. I have yet to learn anywhere close to proficiency the weapons systems of ANY of the models I have purchased. Those include the F-86, F-5, F-16, and F-18. I also own the P-47 & P-51, as well as the UH1 Huey, which I have never flown. This morning I considered buying the A-10C on sale. I thought what for? It will be one more airplane I will hardly use.

2. With all due respect to Europeans, I have no real desire to learn an Allied fighter. See above, just too much to learn. As for the USSR/Russian fighters, I have Zero interest. I grew up with the fear of USSR and their nuclear bombs. I spent three years sitting nuclear alert with my own nuclear bombs and Russian targets. Again, no disrespect to Eagle Dynamics or anyone from the Soviet Bloc. I simply have no interest in their aircraft. There is one exception to that statement. I own the L-39. I bought it and flew it a few times before losing interest. I found the other aircraft to be more interesting.

[centuryseries]

I can only speak for myself in answering your question.
1. Complexity of aircraft keeps me from learning everything. When I went to RTU/RAG for the F-4, it was six-months long full time. The first two months were just learning the systems. I have yet to learn anywhere close to proficiency the weapons systems of ANY of the models I have purchased. Those include the F-86, F-5, F-16, and F-18. I also own the P-47 & P-51, as well as the UH1 Huey, which I have never flown. This morning I considered buying the A-10C on sale. I thought what for? It will be one more airplane I will hardly use.

2. With all due respect to Europeans, I have no real desire to learn an Allied fighter. See above, just too much to learn. As for the USSR/Russian fighters, I have Zero interest. I grew up with the fear of USSR and their nuclear bombs. I spent three years sitting nuclear alert with my own nuclear bombs and Russian targets. Again, no disrespect to Eagle Dynamics or anyone from the Soviet Bloc. I simply have no interest in their aircraft. There is one exception to that statement. I own the L-39. I bought it and flew it a few times before losing interest. I found the other aircraft to be more interesting.

That's fair enough, I can't argue with any of that :ernaehrung004: I must admit the complexity of some of the modules blows my mind, I don't know how anyone could find the time to learn all that one module can do without devoting their entire waking day to it!

[Dimus]

Thanks guys !

I have a 1/48 carrier diorama featuring the F-14 and lots of carrier vehicles and crew, all by Verlinden. Made the deck myself which was great fun. Can't discribe how much fun i have now reliving that in glorious digital capacity ! ;-) (this F-14 diorama is about 25 years old but always kept it dustfree along with a bunch of others. Because of my back i can't do plastic modeling anymore, long live computers ! )


I have made almost the exact same diorama in 1/72! I was still at high school circa 1986. It was the aft starboard side and I modeled the hull down to the waterline, including the sea and the wake. I remember I had Tomcats and Corsairs parked on the deck and an elevator moving down with two planes on. I just do not have the time and patience to do this any more so yes, long live computers, I make scenery now...

[rvn817j]

I also am far from learning any module well and some that I have purchased haven't been flown. But, when they are on sale I grab at least one just in case I become inspired in the future when they are not on sale.

[Javis]

I have made almost the exact same diorama in 1/72! I was still at high school circa 1986. It was the aft starboard side and I modeled the hull down to the waterline, including the sea and the wake. I remember I had Tomcats and Corsairs parked on the deck and an elevator moving down with two planes on. I just do not have the time and patience to do this any more so yes, long live computers, I make scenery now...

I think i may have been amongst the first here in the Netherlands who bought a home computer. Sinclair Spectrum 48K. Sort of a fancy calculator. Didn't know anything about computers but i fell in love with this thing the minute i got my hands on it. Soon changed to Atari 1040ST but i still have that little Spectrum thingy and still love it. ;-)

Started with scenery too once 'Aircraft & Scenery Designer' became availabe for FS4 but that soon changed to aircraft model design. With a 500 poly limit initially not for the faint of heart to make something decent out of it.

Nice you modeled the hull down to the waterline including the sea and wake ! Tried that too with a ship model, 1/250 scale Buckley i think it was, no matter what i tried but it kept on looking like it had run ashore onto the cliffs.. Hehe I have mine on a piece of chipboard and concentrated on the deck, vehicles and crew. Only because of Verlinden of course. Qua weathering i learned everything from this guy. He was my hero back then. It seems the more common branch of plastic model brands have taken over now. Even seen mules and other carrier deck vehicles in 1/32 now. Wow!

[Javis]

Hey guys, quick question if i may:

Does the Fly-By Camera only work with aircraft ?.... It's not like i can watch the carrier sail by from a certain point ?...

I come as far as putting the T-45 at the far end of the deck, above the bow, and then use the Fly-By camera. Sure, it's not called 'Fly-By' camera for nothing of course, not 'Sail-By' camera. Just wondering if it can be made possible somehow ?....

As always thanks very much !

[Javis]

Ahoy there !

Ok, scratch that last one, guys. Found it ! :D

Gotta say DCS has not failed me sofar, on ze contrary ! Could not make much out of the Free Camera sofar so i went looking for its possibillities. Wow! Just what i was looking for ! I bought every PC ship simulation i could get my dirty hands on, civil and militairy alike, historic or modern, but nothing much gave me what i am looking for: simply watch a ship sail by, preferably at stormy high seas and from fairly far away, like i was in a dinghy or something far away at sea. Now i just did that in DCS and it looks totally awesome ! :cool:

Do have to say now that the stormy sea anim as such could do with some upgrade but around the ship it looks great.

I also went looking for more ships, particularly regarding a Forrestal Carrier Group like from the 60's or 70's. Looks like i shall have to wait a minute or two for that... ( now hold on a second here sailor, don't you think you're going a bit overboard looking for such things ? Possibly, sure... Typical case of been givin a finger and then grabbing the whole hand.. ;-)

It's the LCtrl+F11 that does the magic. It did spawn from my last camera mode, external aircraft view, and then i could 'slew' all over the place with the W,A,S,D keys until i had the Forrestal exactly where i wanted it. Absolutely brilliant ! I don't even think about when i manage to get AI launch or trap activity on the deck going. ( that must be possible, right ?.... )

With this awesome camera option going now too i think i've got all my initial whishes for DCS on line now. Time for some flying and see how the clouds look !

Cheers,
Jan