FSX AI Gulfstream G650 mods

[expat]

In another SOH thread regarding a G V mod, there are posts with modifcations for Ken Carson's FSX AI Gulfstream G650 that make it flyable in both FSX and P3Dv4 with PBR. While difficult to upload a complete aircraft - I have some payware bits - I can offer the following DIY kit and happy to answer questions and help with issues.

The exterior FSX model is via the AIG link on this site: https://fsai-repaints.com/?cat=265

The VC I use is included in this CRJ download: https://www.rikoooo.com/downloads/viewdownload/16/876 NB: you will need to do the usual VC merge procedure.

Repaints (Google is your friend) in various places including here:https://oneclickhangar.com/forum/index.php?topic=2135.0

I am also uploading a zip file containing:



airfile (from a GV mod at avsim)
air.cfg that has my fuel and weight mods for a G650ER spec
external models for P3D and FSX
panel cfg - I have some payware e.g., GTN 750, Carenado, etc in there so cannot include these gauges but have added two for the PFD and HUD. You may want to do further work on the panel.
FS Spotlights profile - you will need to download and install the freeware program. https://www.flightsimlabs.com/index.php/spotlights-2/


As Tom Gibson says, "hope this helps."

Expat

https://i.imgur.com/kqds5yH.png

https://i.imgur.com/ZjqIvd9.png

[falcon409]

Exterior windows are opaque and they appear to be in the screenshots above. Is that anything that is fixable?

[Seahawk72s]

Exterior windows are opaque and they appear to be in the screenshots above. Is that anything that is fixable?

I don't believe so without remapping of a new texture and then I'm unsure how it would look with nothing inside to see.

[expat]

It is a low rent low, low poly AI model after all . .
But yeah, see through glass and a door that opens would of course be very cool!

[falcon409]

It is a low rent low, low poly AI model after all . .
But yeah, see through glass and a door that opens would of course be very cool!
No problem, I can imagine there's a door that opens and as for the windows with nothing in them. . . .I believe some paint can cure that as well.

[ReggieC]

In your "Mods" download, the interior model listed on the model configuration file in the Model folder is "interior=CRJ700_interior". Can you advise where to find this interior file? The interior file from the CRJ-200 is "Interior=crj_interior", and my VC does not look as good as yours.

Thanks for the assistance.

81553

[expat]

Not exactly sure where that model came from - probably a while ago. Also, picked up cockpt texture updates done by someone at the usual places. That may partly explain the difference. Suggest you search for those. Note the "CRJ" label on left side is absent. I was previously using this VC assembly with the IRIS Global Express so maybe searching (suggest simviation) for a package for this has these textures. Sorry can't be more helpful as these have been added over time and I don't keep logs of all the mods I make. I did however find these myself through thorough searching of web sites, etc.

As mentioned, I also have some swapped out gauges, some payware, like the GTN 750 and added FS Spotlight which makes a big difference.

I have attached my VC model I am currently using in the G650.

Let me know how you get on.

[ReggieC]

Many thanks!

[expat]

The person who did the upgrade on the CRJ VC is Dave Hoeffgen. He posted the dev work here.
https://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/threads/default-crj-700-vc-rework.436719/

It is included in packages found at simviation and elsewhere if you Google search.

[Seahawk72s]

This maybe the latest package (beta 2018). Looking forward to trying this.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/f65nwzd9u0fardn/CRJ700VC.zip?dl=0

[expat]

This maybe the latest package (beta 2018). Looking forward to trying this.

Thanks, that looks like the right set of files.

[Seahawk72s]

Gavin Munro's latest FMC looks to be a nice choice for the panel. "FMC1.zip"

https://simviation.com/1/search?submit=1&keywords=fmc1&x=3&y=11


(https://simviation.com/1/search?submit=1&keywords=fmc1&x=3&y=11)

[falcon409]

I think this does the trick, at least it looks like a working flight deck, lol (kinda).

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50962016513_e270957a01_k.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2kDkE28)Gulfstream-2021-feb-20-002 (https://flic.kr/p/2kDkE28) by Ed Wells (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157601388@N02/), on Flickr

[Seahawk72s]

I think this does the trick, at least it looks like a working flight deck, lol (kinda).

Gulfstream-2021-feb-20-002 (https://flic.kr/p/2kDkE28) by Ed Wells (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157601388@N02/), on Flickr


Much better...very nice.!

[expat]

Super job Falcon!

Seahawk72s - I cannot get that new FMC to show in the VC. What is your panel.cfg entry for this please? Loosk great in your setup.

[expat]

Funny, I can get other FMC add ons to show. I wonder if the gauge.cab has some 32-bit "bits" that makes it a no show in P3Dv4?

[expat]

OK, working now. Instructions had the wrong panel.config name. It needed to be FMC1!FMC. Surround though is a bit bright with the main VClight on. Need to find a way to tone it down!

https://i.imgur.com/52g8RN1.png

[Seahawk72s]

panel cfg - I have some payware e.g., GTN 750, Carenado, etc in there so cannot include these gauges but have added two for the PFD and HUD. You may want to do further work on the panel.




When you're backup could you show closeups of the Payware stuff you are using as it looks interesting.

[Seahawk72s]

By using Modelconverterx I was able to get around the light limitations in the aircraft.cfg.
To accurately and easily place light effect attachment points.
Attach exhaust effects keyed off of engine on/off states. So no more 'I" key needed.
Correct the auto-flap function to normal.

This allowed me to have only logo and wing lights (ice lights) in the aircraft.cfg.
For some reason they didn't worked attached to the model.

With a small custom pop-up light panel this all nicely upped the realism making the aircraft more enjoyable.

[MZee1960]

Perhaps not as nice as @expat's, but eye candy nonetheless ............

https://i.imgur.com/uUWKqCU.png

https://i.imgur.com/UwWO4lI.png

VC download here :

http://flightsimworkshop.blogspot.com/2014/11/bombardier-global-express-xrs.html (http://flightsimworkshop.blogspot.com/2014/11/bombardier-global-express-xrs.html)

[expat]

When you're backup could you show closeups of the Payware stuff you are using as it looks interesting.

Actually, the only payware I think I am using in this one is the F1 GTN750 (purple box).

The PFD (green box) is an old freeware gauge from an EMB 170 found at flightsim (or maybe avsim). I included the gauge in the zip I posted earlier in this thread.

The MFD (yellow box) stumped me, but believe it is taken out of "Alrot"'s freeware Citiation X: https://simviation.com/fsnd/Downloads.htm

The little square switch off to the PIC's left (red box) is for the terrain map on the Alrot MFD.

The VC bitmaps are big: 16mb 4096 x 4096. Not sure where they cam from. It may be those large bitmaps and FS Spotlights added that make my VC look so different?

I have reverted to a less good looking FMC as the better one posted above's bitmap surround reflects too much when I have the "main" VC lights on. These I think must be coded into the VC model. They (unusually?) light up the CRT's in daytime as well as at night.

As you can tell, I am and enjoy being a bit of scavenger for cheap, used parts!

https://i.imgur.com/Fpmf7cT.png

[expat]

NB: here is my panel in the zip file: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1REkzoL-Z31ukFhobPIFwimKYJ-8--Z7Z/view?usp=sharing

If you don't have the GTN750 you can always swap in another gauge.

[MZee1960]

Just curious, how does the VC above look at night ?
Do the nighttime VC textures (if any) override the FS Spotlights settings ? or is there no difference between day and night appearance when using FS Spotlights ?
My current VC textures look slightly different (take on a more 'golden' hue) at night - probably due to some nighttime textures ?

[expat]

FS Spotlights allows you to have different settings for day vs night with same lights and coordinates for each aircraft. Hope people have downloaded and installed this great freeware and trying out my profile - it goes in the main G650 folder. It also fully variable and therefore highly subjective based on one's taste and preferences. Lastly, both illumination intensity and color temperature/hues will vary for each user also depending on their screen and screen settings used.

1. VC at night with all FS Spotlights on
2. VC with ONLY "default" lighting
3. VC with FS Spotlights but "dome" overhead OFF - what I would ideally set for night flying/landings etc

https://i.imgur.com/o6RxLsA.png

https://i.imgur.com/OSxMsHO.png

https://i.imgur.com/LMkEddS.png

[MZee1960]

Looks very nice, @expat . That VC is payware quality for sure .

[falcon409]

How long do you have to wait to be cleared to download "Spotlight"? I've been waiting several days now for an email telling me I'm authorized to download.

[Seahawk72s]

I took 2-3 days for me.

[MZee1960]

I'm on day 4. :sleeping:

[falcon409]

I'm on day 4. :sleeping:
Yep, still nothing!

[Seahawk72s]

After trying different versions "Spotlights" does not work for me.
With one version it CTD FSX a number of times and with another it hung at the splash screen and gave an error message.
Googled the error but no real fix.

My FSX Acceleration is rock solid but they just don't play well, once removed all is well with FSX.
Its worth a try as it looks like a very good app.

[Seahawk72s]

For me removing VRS TACPAC allowed me to remove "AI Models" and get by a timing issue. FSX with Spotlights now starts.

[expat]

Good news! Let us know how you get on.

[falcon409]

I'll give it another day, given that it was only 2 days then the weekend. Nothing tomorrow and I'll move on. I like the effect but I can certainly live without it.

[Seahawk72s]

Good news! Let us know how you get on.

Sorry to say I then started getting intermittent dll missing errors. After more troubleshooting I gave up and
uninstalled Spotlights.

[MZee1960]

I have given up on FS Spotlights officially today. Time to move on ........

[MZee1960]

This Gulfstream model flies and looks great. Thank-you to @expat for the mods.

[fsafranek]

As Tom Gibson says, "hope this helps."

Nice throwback to the days of Compuserve.
Most folks ended a response with that.
Good times.
:ernaehrung004:

[gray eagle]

I have the exterior files but am confused as to what file(s) I need for the interior? I see numerous links for supposedly VC panels but I tried some and no VC will load.
Is there just one file that will work for the VC that is needed?

Thanks

BTW - I'm using P3D V5+

[expat]

Hey GE
Am travelling (in 92F Washington DC) so limited ability to track files down however if you have the default FSX CRJ you need the interior model and VC textures that go with it that will get you started.

[gray eagle]

This is all I get for a interior (VC) view

The exterior is fine.

https://i.postimg.cc/9QXHz8fW/Capture.jpg

[thunder100]

This is all I get for a interior (VC) view

The exterior is fine.

https://i.postimg.cc/9QXHz8fW/Capture.jpg

Usually

VC coordinates are wrong- -->views--> First entry need to be ammended

And even if untextured in VC ( pan forward to see-->the the VC textures entry is missing )

Roland

PS: You can help me too as I find no way to download that
Bombardier Global Express XRS from Flightsim workshop






(https://flightsimworkshop.blogspot.com/2014/11/bombardier-global-express-xrs.html)

[gray eagle]

Usually

VC coordinates are wrong- -->views--> First entry need to be ammended

And even if untextured in VC ( pan forward to see-->the the VC textures entry is missing )

Roland

PS: You can help me too as I find no way to download that
Bombardier Global Express XRS from Flightsim workshop


You want this one?

https://flyawaysimulation.com/downloads/files/3441/fsx-bombardier-global-express-xrs/

[gray eagle]

I thought we were talking about making the gulfstream 650 compat with P3D?

https://fsai-repaints.com/?cat=265

[gray eagle]

Trying to get a decent VC has been futile for me. The exterior door doesn't open either. I thought this might function inP3D V5 but having to add with other "files"
that were provided have not been fruitful for me.

I just may bin this one. It's a shame as the exterior model looks nice.

[expat]

GE, you did get the VC correctly, but as Roland said you need to use the eyepoint settings for the donor aircraft - the default FSX CRJ. You also need to copy the CRJ VC textures into each repaint texture (or better, put in a common texture folder). Obviously, you should also use the CRJ panel folder. The door doesn't open because the exterior model was made for AI. This is it in P3Dv 4.


https://i.imgur.com/Wof4PPf.png5

[thunder100]

You want this one?

https://flyawaysimulation.com/downloads/files/3441/fsx-bombardier-global-express-xrs/[/FONT][/B]

Sorry to DERAIL

Gulfstream has PRIORITY

I look for that where there is no download linj - etc


http://flightsimworkshop.blogspot.com/2014/11/bombardier-global-express-xrs.html (http://flightsimworkshop.blogspot.com/2014/11/bombardier-global-express-xrs.html)

[MZee1960]

Sorry to DERAIL

Gulfstream has PRIORITY

I look for that where there is no download linj - etc


(http://flightsimworkshop.blogspot.com/2014/11/bombardier-global-express-xrs.html)http://flightsimworkshop.blogspot.com/2014/11/bombardier-global-express-xrs.html




Check your PM.

[thunder100]

Thanks a lot for the help

Roland

[mllgrennman]

you will need to do the usual VC merge procedure.

I tried just replacing the panel files but it didn't work?

[manecas]

I tried just replacing the panel files but it didn't work?

what seems so easy to others, seem way much too complicated to me as well....:-(
this VC merge ....good grief...I cant even manage to have the 2D panel view showing!

Adhd doesnt help either.....;-(

[thunder100]

what seems so easy to others, seem way much too complicated to me as well....:-(
this VC merge ....good grief...I cant even manage to have the 2D panel view showing!

Adhd doesnt help either.....;-(


Put aircraft .cfg, model.cfg and panel.cfg here or PM

[manecas]

Put aircraft .cfg, model.cfg and panel.cfg here or PM

thank you Thunder 100 :wavey:
sent you a message sir.

in the meantime....

[manecas]

....she's a beauty :jump:

[manecas]

All textures revamped in higher resolution mode, from 2048 to 4096.