AMX-1A Ghibli

[falcon409]

The AMX-1A Package has been uploaded and should be available some time today. PLEASE, read the readme files and the PDF so that you can see first hand what it took to make this Freeware version of the AMX possible. Enjoy!

[Priller]

Thanks Ed!!

:)

Priller

[Sundog]

Thank you Ed and everyone else who put this together.

[Priller]

Now if some of the very talented repainters/artists who are members of this site could work their magic on this plane, that would be brilliant!

Priller

[MrZippy]

Great looking aircraft! I will definitely put 'er through the wringer!:applause:

That's an old timey washin' machine joke for you youngins!

[Flyboy208]

Thank you so much Ed and all that contributed. Have not logged any virtual jet time in a while , so this one will do quite nicely. Mike :wavey:

[falcon409]

Here are a couple more liveries I did while working on the AMX. They were not included in the package as I didn't feel they would pass the scrutiny of the detail oriented. . .but hopefully they'll motivate our livery artists and others to take an interest in this generous offering.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49193151197_8c3d68e44c_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2hX2KZg)AMX_A1-002 (https://flic.kr/p/2hX2KZg) by Ed Wells (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157601388@N02/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49192953726_463cd08be0_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2hX1KhA)AMX_A1-003 (https://flic.kr/p/2hX1KhA) by Ed Wells (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157601388@N02/), on Flickr

[Priller]

it is taking quite a bit of time for this thing to show up, no?

I'm not asking for myself, as I already have it. i was part of the beta tester team and I would just like for the rest of us to be able to enjoy it...

Priller

[falcon409]

it is taking quite a bit of time for this thing to show up, no?

I'm not asking for myself, as I already have it. i was part of the beta tester team and I would just like for the rest of us to be able to enjoy it...

Priller
I agree, maybe Rami is out of town or something. I did have to make some last second changes to the upload as I was told that the Lago name needed to come off, which meant the airfile, mdl files, and aircraft.cfg all had to be amended. That pushed the actual upload time to almost 3:00pm CST yesterday. . .2 hours after I made the initial post, but I still thought it would be available by now. I'm sure Rami's working diligently though, lol

[Priller]

Thanks for the explanation Ed!

But come on: Lago doesn't even exist anymore... And you got the Ok from the original dev.

Also: models from the old (and now defunct) Alphasim, were released with that name and ALPHA_ in the files. Why isn't the same logic being applied here? I don't get it. I really don't.

Priller

[falcon409]

I PM'd Rami to see if pulling it off to make those changes might have caused it to not show as uploaded again. Hopefully he can clear things up and it can be available soon.

[falcon409]

No word from Rami as yet. Possible he may not be around currently. Hopefully I hear from him soon.

[Josh Patterson]

The AMX-1A Package has been uploaded and should be available some time today. PLEASE, read the readme files and the PDF so that you can see first hand what it took to make this Freeware version of the AMX possible. Enjoy! Well, it's not as good looking as a '68 Maserati Ghibli but I bet it's a lot more fun! I like your polka dot camo. Reminds me of the old A-10 J.A.W.S. test scheme except whoever painted it forgot to scale it up from 1/48! It looks like a test of modelers skill! In all seriousness the AMX looks really good Falcon. It will find a home next to my F.91 Gina!

[falcon409]

Well, it's not as good looking as a '68 Maserati Ghibli but I bet it's a lot more fun! I like your polka dot camo. Reminds me of the old A-10 J.A.W.S. test scheme except whoever painted it forgot to scale it up from 1/48! It looks like a test of modelers skill! In all seriousness the AMX looks really good Falcon. It will find a home next to my F.91 Gina!
Not polka Dots at all actually.

[falcon409]

The AMX-1A is available to download. Rami has been ill and hasn't been able to do much as you can imagine. Thanks Rami!

[Josh Patterson]

Not polka Dots at all actually.I wonder how long it took to paint the entire (real) plane like that! My eyes would be going crazy!

[falcon409]

I wonder how long it took to paint the entire (real) plane like that! My eyes would be going crazy!
I asked Matt Wynn that same question. My first thought was that it might have been a "wrap", but he said he was sure it had been done probably by a team of painters. . .still seems crazy to me, but effective.

[falcon409]

Any thoughts on the AMX? Once you've flown it, why not post your impressions, screenshots, etc.

[MrZippy]

Sorry, I didn't take any screenshots! My first test flight is a simple circuit at L08 in Borrego Springs. I'm always impressed with a jet aircraft that I can takeoff and land easily on a 5,000 foot runway. More flights to come:applause:

[Priller]

How about these shots?

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=72774&stc=1
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=72775&stc=1

Priller

[Priller]

For those of us who added the additional repaints and got errors, here is the adapted aircraft.cfg file:

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Priller

[falcon409]

For those of us who added the additional repaints and got errors, here is the adapted aircraft.cfg file:
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Priller
Ah yes, Thought of everything except those "Misc_Liveries", thanks!

[falcon409]

How about these shots?

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=72774&stc=1
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=72775&stc=1

Priller
Where did you find those?

[Priller]

The first shot is out of the package. The second one I found on avsim or flightsim (dot com) and I converted the relevant textures to dds format.

EDIT: here is one already
https://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/fslib.php?do=copyright&fid=144026
and another one
https://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/fslib.php?do=copyright&fid=110928

Cheers,

Priller

[Postbaer61]

My first turn and all works very well.
It's a great fun, to fly this little gem.

https://i.imgur.com/R9vXsGd.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/dJwnn5f.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/gux0Rfk.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/k0MZ4VI.jpg

Thank you very much, Henk and Ed
and the AMX developers.

[mgr]

I asked Matt Wynn that same question. My first thought was that it might have been a "wrap", but he said he was sure it had been done probably by a team of painters. . .still seems crazy to me, but effective.

Closeups, looks like real paint(brush) job. Would be h*ll of a job!

https://s27.postimg.cc/ni63f7gqb/Immagine_008.jpg
https://s27.postimg.cc/epp4rivlf/Immagine_014.jpg

Could be mistaken, yet think they did the brown first then the green... pffff....

Marcel

PS More pictures here: https://piti.forumfree.it/?t=70396519

[falcon409]

Great Shots Ulrich and of course thanks for your contribution to get the AMX updated to Native FSX.

[MrZippy]

Took 2 quick shots on another flight from Mather AFB to Mountain Home ABF. Flies just like an aircraft should!

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[Priller]

I'm just dreaming of course, but if we could get modern weaponry and equipment (pods) on this beauty, that would be a dream!

Priller

[Jafo]

My bet would be a screenprint...spray over stencil....;)
Trick would be to look for any repeated patterns...;)

[Josh Patterson]

Any thoughts on the AMX? Once you've flown it, why not post your impressions, screenshots, etc. Quite nice. It flies a nice aerobatic routine. The GPS took a minute to figure out but everything else was easy. I like the loadout panel. The AMX doesn't look like it should be able to carry those four fuel tanks! I've only flown it clean, but I want to see what a near max load does to performance. (The gear does squat quite a bit when you hang all four tanks on it!) I'm going to try the sound from Flying Stations Buccaneer though as it also used the RR Spey and it does sound a bit meaner.

[falcon409]

Quite nice. It flies a nice aerobatic routine. The GPS took a minute to figure out but everything else was easy. I like the loadout panel. The AMX doesn't look like it should be able to carry those four fuel tanks! I've only flown it clean, but I want to see what a near max load does to performance. (The gear does squat quite a bit when you hang all four tanks on it!) I'm going to try the sound from Flying Stations Buccaneer though as it also used the RR Spey and it does sound a bit meaner.

FYI:

AER.1F-AMX-1 Flight Manual AMX series Aircraft


External Tanks
The four underwing pylons have provisions to carry external fuel tanks, however only two tanks can installed at a time. . .either on the inboard pair or on the outboard pair.

When either one or two external tanks are fitted to inboard pylons, operation of the transfer and refuel system in the inboard pylons is inhibited and conversely.

[menef]

Thank you to all involved in this project, it flyes like a dream, here in Italy this jet is also named Topone ( =big mouse) because of the shape of the
nose :-)

[falcon409]

Just completed an upload of the package to Flightsim.com and Simviation.

[MrZippy]

Thank you to all involved in this project, it flyes like a dream, here in Italy this jet is also named Topone ( =big mouse) because of the shape of the
nose :-)

Must be related to Topo Gigio!

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[falcon409]

I must have been first in line at Flightsim dot com this morning, the AMX is already posted for download.

[Priller]

We can only hope that a lot more flightsim enthousiasts will download it Ed!!

Priller

[falcon409]

We can only hope that a lot more flightsim enthusiasts will download it Ed!!
Priller
Interesting you would say that. I uploaded to Simviation and Flightsim around 9:30. I left to run some errands around town and when I got back Simviation showed 106 downloads and Flightsim another 44. I don't see how Simviation have that many, but that's what it showed.

[menef]

Must be related to Topo Gigio!

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=72791&stc=1

:very_drunk:

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=72793&stc=1

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=72794&stc=1

[Priller]

Interesting you would say that. I uploaded to Simviation and Flightsim around 9:30. I left to run some errands around town and when I got back Simviation showed 106 downloads and Flightsim another 44. I don't see how Simviation have that many, but that's what it showed.

Both have a huge member base. I think you'll see a lot more. A fitting tribute to a brilliant model brought back from oblivion.

What you and the team did, the generosity of the original dev, that is simply brilliant. I feel honoured that you let me test it.

I can't thank you and the team enough for this.

And given that you've included the paint kit, makes me hope for a lot of repaints!!

Cheers,

Priller

[Priller]

In the meantime simviation has 140 downloads. And flightsim 66! ;)

Priller

[alain0568]

Hello,

Excellent adaptation of this AMX !!:encouragement:
Shie flies very well!
I note that the frequency of the ADF is not displayed in the window (comm 2) panel, unlike shots seen on this post!
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php/117636-AMX-Rising!
I said that the adf on the right console is running! ;)
An idea of solutions?
Thanks everyone!


Alain

[hschuit]

Alain, the screenshot you are referring to is from an older WIP version. I have removed the ADF freq from the front panel Comm display, in the release version the ADF freq is only visible on the ADF radio (right console).

Henk.


Hello,

Excellent adaptation of this AMX !!:encouragement:
Shie flies very well!
I note that the frequency of the ADF is not displayed in the window (comm 2) panel, unlike shots seen on this post!
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php/117636-AMX-Rising!
I said that the adf on the right console is running! ;)
An idea of solutions?
Thanks everyone!


Alain

[alain0568]

Hello Henk

Thank you for your reply!
It's a shame all the same because it was a plus!
I would ask, please, for cockpit, old, dirty textures ...
And, why not, the possibility of adding a radar ai, instead of the Radar Warning Receiver (inop)!
In any case thank you for the work done on this plane too little known!:applause:

Alain

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[falcon409]

Hello Henk

Thank you for your reply!
It's a shame all the same because it was a plus!
I would ask, please, for cockpit, old, dirty textures ...
And, why not, the possibility of adding a radar ai, instead of the Radar Warning Receiver (inop)!
In any case thank you for the work done on this plane too little known!:applause:

Alain

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I can't speak to anything related to gauges as they are 3D and programmed through the xml. If Henk finds those additions necessary it would be up to him to make the changes. As for the weathered and dirty cockpit, I don't have that ability. The current VC textures for the main panel and side consoles were drawn one component at a time using the AMX Flight Manual images as a template then placed in position. I don't have the expertise to turn them into well-worn (old, dirty) panels so someone who has that ability and finds the AMX a suitable project will have to take that on.

[alain0568]

Hello falcon409,

-Thank you for that answer!
I understand for gauges and for new textures, myself being unable to do them!:(
I will therefore be satisfied with those available!
Thanks again.


Alain

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[Priller]

Downloads on other sites:

Simviation: 340
Flightsim: 268

It's proving to be pretty popular!! :)

Priller

[awstub]

Hello falcon409,

-Thank you for that answer!
I understand for gauges and for new textures, myself being unable to do them!:(
I will therefore be satisfied with those available!
Thanks again.


Alain

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Regarding the RWR, if someone is planning on adding Tacpack capability to this airplane, it should be possible to get the RWR on the main panel to work by adding a transparent $ texture just in front of it and placing the TMAP RWR gage on it.

I'm very confident that this should work, as I have been able to do it on a few models that I'm in the process of converting for P3Dv4.5.

Of course, the other thing to go with it would be working ECM gear...... but RWR is better than nothing :)

[falcon409]

Pre-Dawn launch from Rimini AB enroute to NAS Sigonella. I landed at Decimomannu Air Base (LIED) to stretch my legs, get some coffee and check in with Ops. This screenshot was taken on final to Decimomannu.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49213920163_35011197c3_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2hYScST)Ghibli On Final (https://flic.kr/p/2hYScST) by Ed Wells (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157601388@N02/), on Flickr

[simtech]

Ed, just wanted to congratulate you and your team on a job well done. Unlike most addons, this creation can't be flown ham-fisted. It takes finger tip control.
The bird has excellent manners in the air and is fun to fly. One question: I read the attached pdf and can get the AP to track the localizer, but I'm not having any luck tracking the glideslope. Is this modeled, or do I go to the TACAN position? Otherwise, this is a fast, nimble, very stable platform that is a delight to fly. It's a great addition to any sim hangar.. Great job! Terry

[menef]

Pre-Dawn launch from Rimini AB enroute to NAS Sigonella. I landed at Decimomannu Air Base (LIED) to stretch my legs, get some coffee and check in with Ops. This screenshot was taken on final to Decimomannu.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49213920163_35011197c3_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2hYScST)Ghibli On Final (https://flic.kr/p/2hYScST) by Ed Wells (https://www.flickr.com/photos/157601388@N02/), on Flickr

Nice screenshot! :applause:

[alain0568]

Good morning all,

-Why can't I get the same gps display on the dashboard and on the window when I select a function?
Is there a solution?


https://i15.servimg.com/u/f15/19/20/05/09/gps_am10.png (https://servimg.com/view/19200509/47)

Thank you for your help!


Alain

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[ian elliot]

Im guessing the panel in your cockpit is a more accurate representation of how it looks in the real aircraft, and the pop up GPS panel is a more generic M$ panel, there probably isnt a "fix"

[alain0568]

Hello Ian,

Thank you for your reply!
Too bad however!


Alain
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[falcon409]

Good morning all,

-Why can't I get the same gps display on the dashboard and on the window when I select a function?
Is there a solution?


https://i15.servimg.com/u/f15/19/20/05/09/gps_am10.png (https://servimg.com/view/19200509/47)

Thank you for your help!
Alain
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Sorry, but I don't see a problem really. The pop up is showing the same terrain/map display as you see in the VC. All the function button (on the map) appear to be there. If you're asking why the bezel isn't showing as well. . .that's eye candy, and none of the buttons are functional. . .no reason to show that.

[alain0568]

Hello Falcon409,

I don't understand your remark!
What I am asking is however simple !!
I do not have the same display on the 2 gps, as soon as I select a key on one, it does not affect the other window, voila, that's it!
Other GPS (carenado for example) work in concert, on the panel and on a separate window! (Shift + X)
It may be impossible in this case!
But maybe Ian's answer is suitable!
cordially.


Alain

[MrZippy]

Looks like the range is different between the 2 GPS. Changing the range setting on one does not affect the other.

[falcon409]

Hello Falcon409,

I don't understand your remark!
What I am asking is however simple !!
I do not have the same display on the 2 gps, as soon as I select a key on one, it does not affect the other window, voila, that's it!
Other GPS (carenado for example) work in concert, on the panel and on a separate window! (Shift + X)
It may be impossible in this case!
But maybe Ian's answer is suitable!
cordially.


Alain
Alain,

My answer was fine based on the information you offered. When you post an image and say simply that you can't get the same image on both. . .it doesn't explain what you're actually wanting to know which is "When I select a key on one it doesn't affect the other". . .also "other GPS's" don't always work as you expected this one to. The only time that works is if the VC GPS display has a "Pop Up" function attached to it. When you hover over a GPS and the "hand" icon is displayed then you can get a pop up of the VC GPS, and in that scenario, what you do on the pop up will affect the final display in the VC.

On the AMX, that is not the case. The Pop Up, when selected from the drop down menu is a separate function that does not affect the VC and is usually one that people will "undock" and move either to a separate monitor or leave in the main window, albeit reduced in size.

[alain0568]

Hello Falcon409,

I did not express myself well on my first request !!
But now I have the answer!
No solution however!
Have a good day


Alain
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[Txmmy83]

there is a small problem with the additional liveries which easy fixable

sim=Lago_AMX_P3D

need to be changed to

sim=AMX_P3D

otherwise they can't be loaded in sim!!

[falcon409]

there is a small problem with the additional liveries which easy fixable

sim=Lago_AMX_P3D

need to be changed to

sim=AMX_P3D

otherwise they can't be loaded in sim!!
When did you download this? I made that change and uploaded a new zip file to replace the original.

[Txmmy83]

When did you download this? I made that change and uploaded a new zip file to replace the original.

downloaded on 10.12.2019

[mmurphy77]

I love this jet! Beautiful to look at and fly and great additional liveries too. My only problem is with the Configuration Manager. I can'y get any stores to load. I can toggle the pilot on and off as well as the chocks but cannot load the stations. Am I missing something? Thanks again for a great upgrade.

[hschuit]

Did you correctly install XMLTools (and is it the correct version for your sim - 32bit or 64bit) ? Read the PDF document that comes with the download for details.


I love this jet! Beautiful to look at and fly and great additional liveries too. My only problem is with the Configuration Manager. I can'y get any stores to load. I can toggle the pilot on and off as well as the chocks but cannot load the stations. Am I missing something? Thanks again for a great upgrade.

[mmurphy77]

Did you correctly install XMLTools (and is it the correct version for your sim - 32bit or 64bit) ? Read the PDF document that comes with the download for details.

I just installed it as I would any other aircraft (the correct version). Did I have to install something extra for XMLTools? I didn't see anything mentioned in the 'Read Me' files.

[hschuit]

I just installed it as I would any other aircraft (the correct version). Did I have to install something extra for XMLTools? I didn't see anything mentioned in the 'Read Me' files.

It is not in the readme file, you need to open AMX-1A conversion notes.pdf - page 1 (Installation FSX Acceleration or Installation P3Dv4).

[mmurphy77]

It is not in the readme file, you need to open AMX-1A conversion notes.pdf - page 1 (Installation FSX Acceleration or Installation P3Dv4).

Got it! Thank you.

[RS]

Hi Priller

I´ve seen your nice shots of the"Ghibli" here on SOH. In particular the shot below shows a fine used/weathered "32-02" which I like to use on my FSX if possible. Do you know where I can download the texture files? I´ve searched on SOH, AVSIM and SIMVIATION without success...


http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=72775&stc=1

Thank you for your response in advance.

RS

[Priller]

I think I got it on flightsim.com for the FS2004 version. I then converted the textures to dds format.

I'll have a look and will try to get you a link!

Priller

[Priller]

Here ya go:

https://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/fslib.php?do=copyright&fid=144026

Cheers,

Priller

[RS]

Here ya go:

https://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/fslib.php?do=copyright&fid=144026

Cheers,

Priller


Hi Priller

yeah...downloaded...thank you for your quick help...(I thought it has been a shot of a new painting for FSX/P3D...)

Many greetings

RS

[RS]

Freshly painted in DDS texture format really a nice italian bird...

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=73759&stc=1

Thanks to all the guys who have made it flying...

RS

[falcon409]

...(I thought it has been a shot of a new painting for FSX/P3D...)
Many greetings
RS

No, sadly no one has taken an interest in the AMX enough to produce any liveries.

[RS]

No, sadly no one has taken an interest in the AMX enough to produce any liveries.


Hi falcon409

Perhaps somebody will make repaints in the near future. In any case some good repaints for transforming to FSX Format are available today as shown ...

You must take in account that this bird is in use only in two countries (Italy and Brazil as far as I know)... That means possible, different layouts for paintings are limited by comparison with - for example - US Navy aircrafts with their infinite colorful variants...

However I´am happy to have one more nice bird in my collection...:gameon:

RS

[michelredsky]

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=75464&stc=1