The 461st Bomb Group is open for business!

[edakridge]

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=72663&stc=1


The 461st Bomb Group is now open for business and accepting applicants! We will attempt to recreate many of the actual missions that the 461st flew during WWII using FSX/P3D, Tacpack, JoinFS, and FSX@War. I have been working on a custom FSX@War pack while Richard has been busy working on the website. We are flying the Virtavia B-24 (Payware) or the Alphasim B-24 (Freeware) while awaiting release of the Flight Replicas B-24.



Come check us out at: https://tgycgijoes5.wixsite.com/liberaiders (https://tgycgijoes5.wixsite.com/liberaiders)

[edakridge]

As an option for people that are unwilling or unable to purchase payware, I have converted the Alphasim B-24 Freeware to FSX Native and added Tacpack weapons to it. While quite old, it is functional and works in P3Dv4.5.


http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=72693&stc=1

[stovall]

Very nice website. It is about time someone honored the Liberator. Great aircraft. Now with Flight Replicas B-24 on the drawing boards very appropriate. Thanks

[tgycgijoes]

Very nice website. It is about time someone honored the Liberator. Great aircraft. Now with Flight Replicas B-24 on the drawing boards very appropriate. Thanks

Thank you for the compliment. Come and join us. If you don't have the Virtavia B-24J you can download the Alphasim B-24J on our website that edakridge just converted to FSX/P3D all versions native with Tacpack if you are waiting for the FR B24. For an "ol' timer" (like me LOL) its not bad for an interim to fly.

[edakridge]

Working today on finishing up the FSX@War pack. (The first 15 targets anyway)

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=72711&stc=1

[edakridge]

Flying with an AI group, expecting to get jumped by BF-109's.
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[tgycgijoes]

Ed and I have been making our way from the U.S. down through South America and next week will cross the South Atlantic to Africa the last stop before Italy. As you can see above he has done tons of work in FSX At War for the missions that were actually flown by the 461st starting in April of 1944. Anyone who wants to can fly the FSX/P3DV4x B-24 that Ed has updated to the sim and made TACPACK ready and join us. We both are looking forward to the FR B-24 but in the meantime having a really great time together.

[greenie]

Hey Tgycgijoes, out of curiosity how do you pronounce your name ..lol

[awstub]

Hey Tgycgijoes, out of curiosity how do you pronounce your name ..lol

TonkinGulfYaghtClubGIJoes ?

[tgycgijoes]

Yes except yaght should be yacht LOL! I am a Navy Vietnam Veteran serving two tours in Vietnam aboard the USS America CVA66 with Airwing 6 and Airwing 9 emparked aboard. In 1966 CIC Surface Warfare and in 1970 ComCarDiv 2 Staff as the Air Warfare Coordinator for the Admiral. That's my history.

It all started out my personally creating a 1:6 scale aircrew for a S2F RC Aircraft and it ballooned into a business. I was in a forum for 1:6 collectors. As photos were posted of custom items, others asked if they could buy them. I setup us up a website and the rest was history. For 10 years my wife and I created custom-made uniforms for 12 inch action figures to replicate our clients uniforms right down to medals/ribbons and buttons all miniaturized with our CAD mills, special printer and embroidery equipment. We served all five services and loved it. The Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club GI jOEs was the flagship for U.S. Navy and Coast Guard then Easy Company which was US Army; USAAF; USAF and finally Parris Island Creations obviously for USMC. I had sub contractors I worked with but it was primarily my wife and myself. She learned her skills from her 28 years with a company renowned for creating the Academy Award "Oscar". Sadly Black Friday ended it all for the business, but God had a plan just like Job in the Bible we thought we lost it all and we have even more now than then. When he closes one door he opens another. I loved all the joy we brought to a lot of servicemen, servicewomen and their families. We were in the process of creating a U.S. Navy female officer for her husband and daughters to give her for Christmas in 2001. On September 12th, the day after 9-11 we got a telephone call from her husband to know if it was any way possible for us to complete and ship it that week. As it turned out we were just finishing up early. She worked at the Pentagon and her office was spared from the destruction of the terrorist plane but a lot of her friends weren't and she was in a really bad place. We sent it out to them by Overnight Flash UPS so that it got there the next morning. I still have the note her husband and kids sent to us. Of all the uniforms we made that one is the most special and the ones we did for a team of 4 USAF Honor Guards were the coolest. We had all the Honor Guard Equipment to serve as reference for miniature duplication. I cast the buckles by hand and sewed real leather belts from kangaroo leather which for miniaturists is the material of choice. I found out about it from the miniature horse collectors who use it for saddles and tack. We had special software for our embroidery machine to be able to reduce the artwork and digitize it for the multiple colors of unit patches and rank insignia. We produced the cording on a special loom for every branch of U.S. Army service in the exact colors to go on overseas caps . My Marine coworker at Parris Island Creations, his name for the division, who is gone now a Desert Storm vet gave us our motto: "WE DO IT RIGHT OR WE DON'T DO IT". We kept to that promise with every order. Life goes on but all the memories of good times still remain. All that to answer a simple question. We are very proud to have been able to serve a lot of vets.:loyal:

[greenie]

What can I say after that ! ...... :)

[tgycgijoes]

Thank you for letting me share this here by asking the question. Its been a while since I brought up the memories which are good ones. :encouragement:

[edakridge]

And I'm proud to be working side by side with you on the 461st venture.

[tgycgijoes]

Me too. Its going to be great!! :applouse:

[edakridge]

We did a little mission testing today and things are moving in the right direction. Many thanks to Dutch for his FSCAI program and his help in coding this mission. It does work as you can see from my #1 engine. LOL
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[jagl04]

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=72663&stc=1


The 461st Bomb Group is now open for business and accepting applicants! We will attempt to recreate many of the actual missions that the 461st flew during WWII using FSX/P3D, Tacpack, JoinFS, and FSX@War. I have been working on a custom FSX@War pack while Richard has been busy working on the website. We are flying the Virtavia B-24 (Payware) or the Alphasim B-24 (Freeware) while awaiting release of the Flight Replicas B-24.



Come check us out at: https://tgycgijoes5.wixsite.com/liberaiders (https://tgycgijoes5.wixsite.com/liberaiders)


Does anybody know why the motto is "Al ataque", written in Spanish?

[tgycgijoes]

Does anybody know why the motto is "Al ataque", written in Spanish? I will find out the answer for you from our historian and post it here.

[tgycgijoes]

According to the our historian the president of the 461st BG Reunion Group, our motto is Latin not Spanish though they are close and it means TO THE ATTACK.

[ratty]

Sorry, both "al" and "ataque" are Spanish. Latin would be "Ad Oppugnatio" or any one of about a dozen synonyms for attack.

[tgycgijoes]

I am repeating what the real 461st historian says their motto is. I studied Latin about 60 years ago now and really don't remember much. Since I just Googled it (the world-wide accepted authority on everything LOL) yes it's Spanish not Latin. In any case it's their 75 year old motto from where, sadly there isn't but a handful of the hundreds of guys who survived left who I would guess probably really don't remember where it came from. Thank you for the question and for the correction. Since the motto is on a banner on their Group Patch it was possibly designed by someone in the Bomb Group. Alas again, 75 years later who designed it is unknown.

[glh]

The translation is:

[tgycgijoes]

The translation is: thank you but we know that already. Our historian the Group CO from 1943-46 is going to email one of the last living veterans who were there from the formation of the Group here in the USA and see if he remembers its source.

[ratty]

thank you but we know that already. Our historian the Group CO from 1943-46 is going to email one of the last living veterans who were there from the formation of the Group here in the USA and see if he remembers its source.

That would be great to know. I bet there's a story there.

[tgycgijoes]

I'm afraid that it still may remain a mystery like so many others lost in the past but here is what we DO know according to our 461st Historian whose father was the commanding officer and spoke several languages he says:

It does appear to be Spanish. I checked with Google myself and discovered
something interesting. Starting with "Al Ataque", the detection is that
it's Spanish, but the translation to English only says "Attack". I get
nothing from Italian or Latin. If I start with "To the Attack" and asked
for a translation to Spanish, Italian and Latin, the only one that comes
close is Spanish which gives me "Al Ataque". Looks like it's definitely
Spanish.

As to who came up with it, I still think my father did, but I can't prove
it. I did talk with a veteran, but he can't remember that level of detail.
He was there, but all he remembers is it suddenly appeared. He said he had
come up with the lightning bolt that was on the bomb. The details about who
was involved after that is lost in time.

:icon_question:

[jagl04]

I'm afraid that it still may remain a mystery like so many others lost in the past but here is what we DO know according to our 461st Historian whose father was the commanding officer and spoke several languages he says:

It does appear to be Spanish. I checked with Google myself and discovered
something interesting. Starting with "Al Ataque", the detection is that
it's Spanish, but the translation to English only says "Attack". I get
nothing from Italian or Latin. If I start with "To the Attack" and asked
for a translation to Spanish, Italian and Latin, the only one that comes
close is Spanish which gives me "Al Ataque". Looks like it's definitely
Spanish.

As to who came up with it, I still think my father did, but I can't prove
it. I did talk with a veteran, but he can't remember that level of detail.
He was there, but all he remembers is it suddenly appeared. He said he had
come up with the lightning bolt that was on the bomb. The details about who
was involved after that is lost in time.

:icon_question:

Thanks a lot for your interest and your inquires. "Al ataque" is the most common war cry of the Spanish troops when we charge against our enemies. It is not surprising to find Spanish words in many states of the USA (in fact, "los Angeles", "Florida", "Colorado" and "Nevada" are Spanish words, as a few examples), but it was more surprising for me to see a Spanish war cry as the motto of a modern bombing group founded in Utah in 1940.

[tgycgijoes]

This is an open invitation to join us for a Training Mission from Torretta, Italy in WWII. Ed and I are at Torretta and anxiously awaiting the Flight Replicas B-24 package to be released. In the meantime, we are going to do some fun flying each Monday until that happens. We will be flying the IRIS P-40 "Kittyhawk"/"Warhawk" in 461st colors but you can join us flying any WWII Allied fighter in your hanger in FSX/SE/P3D[any version] in Join FS. We start in Teamspeak 3 in our dedicated 461st channel in the SOH server at 14:30 UTC for preflight briefing and check everyone's comm's. We are hoping that we'll get you to join us for a fun flight of an hour or so in the air. In this download is the PDF Mission Briefing as well as downloads of our aircraft so that we can see each other. If you are going to join us please PM me before Saturday 8 February 23:59 UTC with what aircraft you will be flying so that everyone can either match it exactly in JoinFS or get close to it so that we don't have a bunch of default C172's LOL:biggrin-new: as happens in "model-matching". Here is the download link:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/uio56nu1kvgm7s1/Training_Mission_2.pdf/file

[tgycgijoes]

If you watched the SOTU last night, the highlight in my opinion was the promotion of the LAST surviving Tuskegee Airman, 100 years young to General. That was fantastic and long overdue. The 332nd FG, the Tuskegee Airmen escorted many flights of the 461st Bomb Group and you could honor them by flying with us as a Fighter Escort in either a P-40, P-47 or a P-51 payware OR freeware if you don't want to fly a B-24. Start this Monday. Download all you need above. See ya'all there.

Richard :loyal:

[edakridge]

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=73919&stc=1
I flew along the whole route of the AI B-24's today while testing the FSCAI mission that I've written and it was a Hoot!

[awstub]

Does anyone know if there is any sort of bomb site that can be added to the Alphasim B-24J?

[tgycgijoes]

Gyspy Baron of the 91st BG created one on their site where I am a member for the A2A B17G Accusim for members only. He modified it for their Desert Campaign Alphasim/Virtavia B24 which I also flew with them. I sent him a special request and we were generously given permission to share it with our members of the 461st BG but it is not readily available for download.

[tgycgijoes]

Because of unexpected real life issues, the Mission Training #2 has been changed to Tuesday from Monday, 2/11 instead of 2/10. There is still a chance for you to fly it with us. Just follow the instructions in the download and see ya at Torretto at 15:00Z. Set your sim clock for 10:00 Italy Local Time. Weather is in the server when you join "Join FS".

[tgycgijoes]

We will have to cancel the fighter escort Mission #2 for this week. Sorry if you wanted to fly with us for any inconvenience this may have caused. I will post here again when we re-schedule this Mission Training #2. Hope you all have a good week.

[edakridge]

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=73943&stc=1

With help from Dutch and Chris I finally have the AI dropping bombs! if you look closely at the screenshot you can see them being dropped. And yes, these weapons have been incorporated into the 461st's FSX@War pack so that if they actually manage to hit anything it will damage/destroy the object. From what I've experienced so far they drop over the target, but most are misses. Kind of like my dumb bomb drops.

[awstub]

It looks like bombs were commonly released at altitudes between 18k and 25k. Does anyone know what the most common air speeds were used during drops?

I really like flying the Alpha Liberator. One of my great uncles was a B-24 pilot and flew on the Ploesti raids.

[tgycgijoes]

Hey Stubby,

Come and join us you can fly your Liberator OR download our Tackpack equipped Liberator in 461st "Colors" from our website. We would love to have you on board. I can send you the texture and aircraft.cfg entry for one of the noseart versions that Ed and I have not assigned.

[edakridge]

I have been working from this as a base line it's not real accurate for FSX/P3D, but it's a starting point.
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[edakridge]

I'm getting better at plotting the AI's path!
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[awstub]

I'm still sorting out my new PC, but I'm seriously considering joining in.

Back in the day I use to fly the online sim "Aces High" (and AirWarrior), and participated in some their online scenarios. There would be hundreds of participants in each event, as well as AI. I usually flew on the Axis side though, since I like to be the underdog.




Hey Stubby,

Come and join us you can fly your Liberator OR download our Tackpack equipped Liberator in 461st "Colors" from our website. We would love to have you on board. I can send you the texture and aircraft.cfg entry for one of the noseart versions that Ed and I have not assigned.

[mike_cyul]

Seeing as Richard and Ed have kindly shown interest in the upcoming Flight Replicas B-24, just thought that you might like to see the 461st paint scheme. :)

This aircraft was one of those that had two names - in this case, "She Wolf" and "Irish Angel II".

Mike


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[tgycgijoes]

Hey Mike,
That looks great! She is one of the 765th BS "replacement" aircraft in natural metal replacing Arsenic and Lace lost on 17 Dec 1944 on Mission #151 to the Odertal Refinery in Germany.

I did the first 12 original aircraft noseart in OD finish on the Virtavia (Alphasim). I hope that your paintkit will have a layer for the OD so that when it is out I can redo all of the 12 originals from my artwork onto the FR B24J. :applause:

[edakridge]

It really does look great!

[tgycgijoes]

While we are waiting for Mike Cyul to finish and release the Flight Replicas B24, I decided to play around with some escorts. This is my repaint of the WOP II P51D that I installed from the Aircraft Powerpack from "ol' Shockwave" the predecessor of A2A. All in all its a nice aircraft and I was able to find the paintkit for it in their Forum. It was a challenge but I was pleased last night when I finished it. Interestingly, I painted it exactly as the profile below shows but towards the end I found a real photo that obviously shows it with a yellow nose like the stripes and empennage backgrounds NOT red like USAAF instructions say it should be for all 15th AF fighters. It shows that if you can find a REAL photo go with it even thought it contradicts directives. I may decide to repaint the drop tanks in gray with yellow noses in the future. Right now those squares got me kinda burned out. I am not the fastest repainter or the best so this took me 30 hours or so to do. I have some info for the P-47 which the 325th used in 1944 before transitioning to first the P51C and then this P51D so that when we begin flying our first mission the "Jug" is available. I believe that this repaint won't work with the WOP III P51D and it doesn't work with its Tacpack update (I tried). It will have to have its OWN tacpack update to fit with the model.

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[jankees]

seeing that old A2A model made me think of my old B-24 paints, so I had a look, and lo and behold, I painted a 461st aircraft for the Alphasim B-24 as well:
https://live.staticflickr.com/834/42919056984_2c2d545531_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/28oBon7)14-1065


(https://flic.kr/p/28oBon7)Richard, as for the nose of Squeezie being yellow, I'm not so sure. I have looked at lots of old Mustang shots for all my P-51 paints, and quite often, red will look really light in these old photographs.
Also, I don't think the droptanks have a yellow front, the darker part is dark because of the shadow of the wing, I'm sure the front of the tank is just bare metal. I've never seen painted drop tanks.
As for the checkers, I know they can be a pain to do! But if you look at the picture, you'll see they line up along the front of the tail, and I don't think yours do? The good news, if you decide to redo them, is that are less of them I think...

[tgycgijoes]

After all of them merging together in my old eyesight, LOL, I agree you are right. Photoshop is so cool!!! Each row or some individuals are each a layer so not difficult to correct. I counted the squares on the horizontal stab and will carefully count them on the vertical stab and the fuselage better. I thank you for your observation and I will be correcting this to be more accurate. I do not have ANY other reference that does not show the nose and spinner anything but red so will correct that too. My mentor when I was a shipmodeler and restorer of the Smithsonian Institute taught me that you do it right or you don't do it because you are preserving history. Your model (repaint) may be all that's left in the future. Again thanks and its back to the paintshed. At least I don't have to do the P-47. I just downloaded Tom Weiss repaint for the 325th at the A2A Forum. Great job on the Alphasim B-24 for the 461st, if you PM me a link, with your permission I will share it on the website. :encouragement:

[Bomber_12th]

With regard to the 325th FG P-51D "Squeezie", don't let black and white photos fool you. Take for instance this photo, which shows a 332nd FG P-51D in the background - both the nose and tail of that aircraft were red, but note how light it appears in the photo. The nose of "Double Zero" in the foreground was also red, but with a black stripe at the rear. It has been the subject of articles/research I've read in the past where a certain type of B&W film used at the time had some trouble with red tones. The tonal values are just ever so slightly different in this B&W photo from the red-painted nose to the yellow-painted tail checkers.

https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/sta51912-jpg.195317/


Here is another photo of "Squeezie". Note too the red gas cap and red circle around the gas cap on the drop tank in this photo also appears very light - just about the same tonal value as the yellow stripes on the wings.

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[jankees]

if you're going to redo the checkers, notice that the plates on the fuselage where the horizontal stabilisers are attached are not painted.
And since you are interested in the 325th:
https://live.staticflickr.com/919/42563198935_625ae74c28_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/27Rawav)FX13364 (https://flic.kr/p/27Rawav)

https://live.staticflickr.com/843/43419426042_d36c9fd522_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/299PUDQ)FX13381 (https://flic.kr/p/299PUDQ)

https://live.staticflickr.com/1763/43467340651_87f73d8d1f_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/29e4tZM)ss5499 (https://flic.kr/p/29e4tZM)

[tgycgijoes]

The photo I have of Squeegie is the same photo you have on the bottom (which I downloaded) where it very apparent that the nose is red. Ignore my PM about contacting them. These photos are proof that they were all red. I do not have the Warbirdsim "B" only the WOP II "D" but the repaints are beautiful. This afternoon when I redid the tail, I redid the yellow as well not just squares so that that part is now natural metal where the horizontal stab is attached.
That's enough squares for one day LOL. I think I'll give my ol' eyes a rest and have a chocolate and some tea and call it. Thank you again for taking all the time to help me. I am going to wait for a sale somewhere and then pick the Warbirdsim P51B and C.

[Greenhouse357]

I also had painted some of these...

[tgycgijoes]

Hey Greenhouse357 when we start flying our missions with the FR B24J come and escort our formations with a 325th P47 or P51. If you are Tacpack equipped you will actually be able to dogfight with the ai Axis fighters in FSX@War/FSCAI. Ed Tackpacked equipped the Virtavia/Alphasim B24J too so you ARE welcome to fly that. Its available for download ready to fly in the 461st Colors and with the Tackpack Panel. If you don't own Tacpack you can still fly with us.

[Greenhouse357]

Thank you tgycgijoes, for the invite. This is a very busy time of the year for me. I also don't have tacpac, yet, anyway. I plan on re-doing this paint and another one I did for the FR B24J when its released. The mustangs are Johns' (Warbirdsim Mustang Tales), the only ones I fly. Years ago, I used to fly with the virtual 352nd in cfs1. Really enjoyed the missions we flew. When myself and a friend first joined the group, the first mission we flew, I shot the bomber we were supposed to protect. Got yelled at lol. I will be in touch.

[tgycgijoes]

Thank you for reply and we look forward to you joining whenever you can.

Richard

[tgycgijoes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xioH6PNDd2c

[xpelekis]

But what about the AI dogfighting skills... you may ask. With latest/current
FSCAI version, Dutch has nailed it ! Dogfighting against AIs is seriously challenging.
Against a skill level 5 (up to 9...) AI BF-109 :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNvJU3Qkx14

[tgycgijoes]

This is a really cool representation of FSCAI capability but the 461st Missions are coded in FSX@War teaming up with FSCAI. Dutch and Ed have been teamed up. The same but different. Thanks for sending this for all of us to enjoy.

[tgycgijoes]

I just latched onto a first edition 1969 copy of Checkertail Clan in excellent condition and have started reading it with all kinds of interest. Back above Jan Kees, rightly so critiqued my P51D Squeezie about the checkerboard squares. I just read that the P-40 had 14 inch squares; P47s reduced the size of the checkers to 12 inch squares and finally, the P51s had 10 inch squares. If you didn't know it you'd never see the difference in comparison photos of the three different aircraft's tails.

[xpelekis]

but the 461st Missions are coded in FSX@War teaming up with FSCAI
My point is, that when in 461st FSX@War/FSCAI sorties - missions, situation comes to
dogfight against an AI, it will look something like video above.
Not "sitting duck" that is. Actually, much more than this sounds...

AI BF-109 on flames in video photo above, didn't check his "six" (they periodically do...).
commited chasing the AI P-40 at right of photo. Easy kill...

[mhutche229]

Do you have the airfield started yet? I started making the airfield some years ago before I had P3D, but is unfinished. My cousin was a nose gunner for the 454th BG at San Giovanni. I have done research on the location and tried to replicate the exact location of runways, taxi ways and hardstands.

San Giovanni looks good in FSX but I have not mastered it under P3D while using ADE 1.75

Michael -

[tgycgijoes]

Yes, Torretta has been finished and edakridge has totally acclimated it into FSX@War in the 461st BG Campaign which we will be using for all our missions on our dedicated server. I used the photos from the 461st BG Reunion site and plotted each hard stand all 100. (Took me days in ADEx and almost got carpel tunnel LOL) It works on all flight sim platforms including P3DV4+ which he uses. We have flown test flights from it at least 10 times now and are waiting now for the B24J from Flight Replicas. You can see in another post the repaints I am redoing from those done for the Virtavia B24J. We would love to have you join us. We will be flying the new Flight Replicas B24J as soon as it is available and released. Go to the website: https://tgycgijoes5.wixsite.com/liberaiders and check it all out and then just click the JOIN US button and fill out the application.