de Havilland Vampire DH-100 by SwissMilSim

[WarHorse47]

Was wondering if anyone has this and what you think of it.

Available at SimMarket (https://secure.simmarket.com/swiss-military-pilot-1950-1960-de-havilland-vampire-dh-100-mk6.phtml)

Looks impressive, but costly.

[musterpilot]

I got this the other day and been a fan of the Vampire I have found it great as you stated it is a bit pricey but if you like the Vampire go for it
did a paint job on it yesterday the first Vampire built in Australia

https://i.imgur.com/bSJ4ahC.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/LsXpb61.jpg

[WarHorse47]

Ooohhh... nice pics. :encouragement:

Yes, I'm a fan of the Vampire as well. Any issues encountered with the product or install?

[musterpilot]

It has great flying characteristics things get a bit dicey when you load bombs or wing tanks increasing the weight

you have to fly at the right power settings other wise you will blow the motor very realistic

a very nice cockpit all gauges are in Swiss but I believe they are going to bring out a international model which will be great

A great machine

It comes made for FSX FSX-Steam and p3DV4.5

[l3j3rm]

Hello,

The idea of this development was to reproduce as accurately as possible the aircraft, its flight and mission behaviour and the way it was flown. To do this, we have added not only TacPack support, but also missions (scenarios) that allow you to better discover your environment at the time.

Two former pilots of this real aircraft participated in the design and conducted multiple tests. In addition, most of the systems have been modeled and are functional, such as the NAFU and GCA navigation system, which makes it a unique extension to my knowledge.

Another unique feature: the extension is available in 3 languages: French, German and English, for missions, checklists, but also for the manual which is over 100 pages long (downloadable from our website)!

All this is the result of more than 2 years of work and I would like to thank in advance those who will support us by purchasing this extension.

Now, I understand that this price can discourage some of them, it's not an extension that you buy on a whim, but rather after reflection.

We are a small team of 4 people who do this as amateurs and who have spent thousands of cumulative hours on the project. The income is therefore only a meagre compensation.

In addition, we believe that the quality of our extension is similar to an A2A extension, for example in terms of realism, and therefore the price is also similar and therefore corresponds to the market price.

Jérôme from SwissMilSim Team

[musterpilot]

Thanks for a great product Jerome

John

[WarHorse47]

Thanks for the background, Jerome. :encouragement:

Can you share more information on the "international model" mentioned by musterpilot?

[l3j3rm]

Sorry, but I have nothing more...
The only thing that I can say is that we planned to do an international version, with international textures, because this one is with a swiss cockpit.
We are going to discuss this soon with the team, but no details at all for the moment.
Jérôme

[Priller]

Hi Jérôme,

Another question: can this model be simply started up by ctrl+e or does it require a startup procedure.

When I have time, startup procedures are no problem, but sometimes (after work or after helping my boy with his studies), I just like to get up into the air fast and enjoy some time flying.

Cheers,

Priller

[l3j3rm]

Hi Priller,

Yes, it is possible to startup using CTRL+E as a simpler startup procedure too.

Best regards,
Jérôme

[musterpilot]

A few shots with different armament

start up
https://i.imgur.com/uW0PoiU.jpg

rockets

https://i.imgur.com/NuCSu1n.jpg

bombs

https://i.imgur.com/1ty4WuC.jpg

more bombs

https://i.imgur.com/4i1lcbD.jpg

Fuel tanks

https://i.imgur.com/Th5PzMS.jpg

[l3j3rm]

Nice pictures, thank you!
Jérôme

[YoYo]

Near 55 Eu? :pop4:
Ups, looks nice but the price isnt for me.

[l3j3rm]

Hello,

This is because of the VAT...
On this site, it is "only" 49 CHF: https://www.mailsoft.com/pi/Neuheiten/de-havilland-vampire-dh-100.html

Jérôme

[WarHorse47]

Jerome,

Seems I've encountered a problem with my FSXA install. :dizzy:

I have sent an e-mail to the SMS Support, but have not received a response. Thanks.

[musterpilot]

Did you download the right version for your sim ?

there are a few version options

[WarHorse47]

Did you download the right version for your sim ?

there are a few version optionsOf course. :very_drunk:

The installation went fine. The installer found the FSXA install.

All is fine except that the Tacpack weapons are not loading for the short nose model. Fuel tanks and empty pylons are showing. There are no display problems with the long nose model.

After my report to SMS, I did a full uninstall - downloaded a fresh installer - and reinstalled the aircraft, and the issue persists. My guess is that there is something quirky with the short nose model for the FSX install.

SMS is looking into the problem. :encouragement:

[musterpilot]

Of course. :very_drunk:

The installation went fine. The installer found the FSXA install.

All is fine except that the Tacpack weapons are not loading for the short nose model. Fuel tanks and empty pylons are showing. There are no display problems with the long nose model.

After my report to SMS, I did a full uninstall - downloaded a fresh installer - and reinstalled the aircraft, and the issue persists. My guess is that there is something quirky with the short nose model for the FSX install.

SMS is looking into the problem. :encouragement:

Glad you are getting it sorted

[WarHorse47]

Glad you are getting it sortedNot yet, but we're working on it.

BTW - which version of the sim did you take those screenshots from? Seems you were able to get the weapons to display.

[musterpilot]

Not yet, but we're working on it.

BTW - which version of the sim did you take those screenshots from? Seems you were able to get the weapons to display.

I use P3DV4.5

[l3j3rm]

We probably found the problem and it happens only on FSX/FSX:SE and for the short nose model. We just need a couple of days to test and create a patch.
Jérôme

[WarHorse47]

Thank you, Jerome. :encouragement:

[ColoKent]

I just bought it, and love it. REALLY want the international model (with the more common external fuel tanks). Really like how it flies!

Kent

[l3j3rm]

Thank you Kent, we are very happy that you like it! Have good flights.
Jérôme

[jeansy]

I just bought it, and love it. REALLY want the international model (with the more common external fuel tanks). Really like how it flies!

Kent

Yep same, im holding off until the international package is released

[WarHorse47]

I've always been fascinated by the early jets, and this is no exception.

I've finally been able to complete a few short flights without destroying the engine. Really immersive and challenging, despite some VC labels and tool tips being non-English. Helps to watch the videos. Will likely pick up the international version when its developed. :encouragement:

Haven't launched any Tacpack weapons, yet. Still waiting for the patch on the short nose model. Hopefully that will be available soon. :untroubled:

[ColoKent]

I can only say 3 things:

1. Sloooow throttle movement when advancing the throttle
2. Use the yellow (10 min. max) and red (3 min. max) markings on the rpm gauge to keep from over taxing the engine)
3. Idle descents are okay, but be right of the green marker RPM-wise during the approach

Again, I love the machine. However, I wish the external and VC models and textures were a bit more Milviz quality...perhaps this can be fixed with improvements to the textures.

Here are my hopes for this team:
a. They have whatever “meeting” they need to have to get cracking on the international version
b. They stay on a roll by doing the DH Venom next

if you are a Vamp/Venom lover like me, you CAN’T not be happy with this release.

Kent

[WarHorse47]

Simmarket just notified me of an update for the FSX install, but size doesn't seem right and the zip file will not extract. Error message from WinZip that it's not a valid file. Grrrr........ :banghead:

[l3j3rm]

Sorry for the file problem, a new file has been uploaded and should be available soon.
Jérôme

[l3j3rm]

Hello Kent,

Thank you for your message.
I take note for the model and the textures and will do a feedback to the other team members.
Regarding the Venom, it is on our todo list too, after the international version of the Vampire, but we also have to figure out how things are going to continue with the arrival of the new Microsoft Flight Simulator ;-)
Jérôme

[ColoKent]

Jerome - Keep up the good work!

kent

[WarHorse47]

Thanks for the latest update. All is well. Finally had a moment to take a short flight and the more I fly the Vamp, the more I like it. Again, thanks for your efforts. I'm definitely looking forward to the international version, as well as the Venom. :encouragement::encouragement:

Musterpilot, are you going to share that repaint?? :wiggle:

[musterpilot]

Hi guys if I knew how to post it I sure would

https://i.imgur.com/z5zTm7o.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Ib1dZBE.jpg

[l3j3rm]

If you agree, you can send us your repaint and we can host it on our website.
Jérôme

[musterpilot]

I will send y some files by email and see how we go

John

[musterpilot]

Jerome I have just sent you the files by email

John

[WarHorse47]

Are there any more repaints? I have yet to see Musterpilot's repaint on the SMS website. Just wondering. :mixed-smiley-010:

[l3j3rm]

Hello,


The international version of our Vampire is almost ready. The differences are essentially as follows:



Cockpit completely redesigned to take into account the specifics of the English model.
Repaints from different countries
Paintkit
The "Swiss" Jeep for starting the engine has been replaced by a starter trolley.


Below some captures of the different liveries:


https://swissmilsim.ch/wp-content/uploads/84176516_647509282733008_573447983069134848_o.jpg

https://swissmilsim.ch/wp-content/uploads/84243484_647509362733000_7825671953682792448_o.jpg

https://swissmilsim.ch/wp-content/uploads/87478689_647509296066340_1590352636530393088_o.jpg

https://swissmilsim.ch/wp-content/uploads/87608244_647509492732987_9186902838184247296_o.jpg

https://swissmilsim.ch/wp-content/uploads/88110961_647509256066344_1312727896137138176_o.jpg

https://swissmilsim.ch/wp-content/uploads/88163156_647509336066336_7488222085542576128_o.jpg

[l3j3rm]

Some more pics:


https://swissmilsim.ch/wp-content/uploads/88228586_647509372732999_3496051177911484416_o.jpg

https://swissmilsim.ch/wp-content/uploads/88336052_647509446066325_899369059475259392_o.jpg

https://swissmilsim.ch/wp-content/uploads/88353742_647509412732995_63408599350640640_o.jpg

https://swissmilsim.ch/wp-content/uploads/88445875_647509462732990_2706128278959161344_o.jpg

[WarHorse47]

Nice. Looking forward to the international models. :encouragement:

Any pics with external tanks?

[SSI01]

There is a film made in Britain in the mid to late 50s, maybe early 60s, called "High Flight." Stars Ray Milland, also Anthony Newly (I think). Just some good general film of the Vampire on the ground and in the air, in RAF markings. I've seen it on YouTube and if you can get past the attempts at humor it's a good generalized look at early RAF jet training. Oh, Chipmunks, too.

[MrZippy]

There is a film made in Britain in the mid to late 50s, maybe early 60s, called "High Flight." Stars Ray Milland, also Anthony Newly (I think). Just some good general film of the Vampire on the ground and in the air, in RAF markings. I've seen it on YouTube and if you can get past the attempts at humor it's a good generalized look at early RAF jet training. Oh, Chipmunks, too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l4byhJVA8o This might be an interesting movie!:wavey:

[l3j3rm]

Thank you for the link.
There are some nice sequences starting at 00:44:00.
We can also see the Hunter, a very nice airplane I had the chance to fly once for real (as passenger)!

[WarHorse47]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l4byhJVA8o This might be an interesting movie!:wavey:Just watched it. Great movie. Thanks for sharing the link. Love that British humor. :biggrin-new:

[dhazelgrove]

Love that British humour. :biggrin-new:

We don't charge for it, either.....

Dave

[jeansy]

I see the international package has been released at simmarket

"ouch" to the price @ $45USD and no paint kit, I might skip this one

[WarHorse47]

I see the international package has been released at simmarket

"ouch" to the price @ $45USD and no paint kit, I might skip this oneAppears to be P3D only so it seems. Bummer. :banghead:

[ColoKent]

And no mention or pics of the more common international external tanks. Will wait and see how this develops before pulling the trigger.

K

[l3j3rm]

Hello, there is a paintkit included and the price is the same as the swiss version. You have a special price (about 18 euros) if you have previously bought the other version. And yes, it is only for P3DV4, because we stopped our develpment for previous version of simulators...
Best regards,
Jérôme

[dhazelgrove]

I have both versions, but was not offered any kind of special pricing on the original version.
I bought them both from Simmarket.

Dave

[l3j3rm]

Sorry for that, the special price was not yet active, you bought it too quickly ;-)
We'll look at that and perhaps we will have to do a refund and a new buy.
Jérôme

[noddy]

So just to confirm will there be a discount on Simmarket as like Dave I purchased the original from there.

[l3j3rm]

Yes, the discount is now available.

[stretch1365]

Hi all,

I was just browsing the forum and saw this about a discount at SimMarket on the DH-100. I checked SimMarket but can only see a discount applied to the Morane D 3801 not the Vampire...........I'm a little confused if the Vampire is suitable for FSX acceleration or not?

Thanks and regards.

Dave.

[dhazelgrove]

The 'original' Vampire is currently 64-bit, so P3Dv4+ only.

Dave

[noddy]

Many thanks, off to buy it :wavey:

[ColoKent]

Dave,

Does this version have the more ubiquitous external tanks...or does it retain the Swiss-style tanks?

Thanks,

Kent

[WarHorse47]

And yes, it is only for P3DV4, because we stopped our develpment for previous version of simulators...
Best regards,
Jérôme Too bad. Guess this entire thread needs to move to the P3D forum.

[ColoKent]

Went ahead ahead and bought the "Export" version of the Vampire. Only difference are English placards and instrument labels (and imperial unit instruments). Drop tanks were not modified to be the standard seen on most export versions, but rather the same Swiss style ones that were in the original package. Worth it because of the English language markings and imperial instruments, IMHO...but other than that, little to no difference. Perhaps they will release a patch with the more common external tank style. Off to find the paint kit....

Kent

P.S. Venom next, please!

[WarHorse47]

Went ahead ahead and bought the "Export" version of the Vampire. Only difference are English placards and instrument labels (and imperial unit instruments). Drop tanks were not modified to be the standard seen on most export versions, but rather the same Swiss style ones that were in the original package. Worth it because of the English language markings and imperial instruments, IMHO...but other than that, little to no difference. Perhaps they will release a patch with the more common external tank style. Off to find the paint kit....

Kent

P.S. Venom next, please!If that is the case, why didn't they create an FSX version? Seems simple. Baffling it is.

[ColoKent]

If that is the case, why didn't they create an FSX version? Seems simple. Baffling it is.

Dunno. Doesn't seem difficult with something with this few changes, but I am not a developer.

Kent

[chrismot]

Good morning, everyone,

I am happy to answer the various questions raised in this forum ..:

There are few differences between the Swiss Vampire and the original: the Swiss version is a licensed build of the Vampire Original FB 5&9, with some improvements, but mostly a cockpit with metric instruments. The English cockpit has been adapted to the best of its possibilities, and information, while remaining reasonable!

We have little information on the design of the original external tanks, but we know that there have been several different models used. It would have been difficult to model all of them, especially without more details and images!

Many developers have already decided to give up modeling for FSX, which is an old and outdated simulator, and that's our decision too! It takes a lot of energy to create for many simulators, and we don't prefer to focus on the future with P3D, and probably with Microsotf's future Flight Simulator 2020...

Thank you for your interest in our work... and happy flying!

[chrismot]

Good morning, everyone,

....and we don't prefer to focus on the future with P3D, and probably with Microsotf's future Flight Simulator 2020...



...we prefer to focus on P3D and FS2020....!!! Sorry...! :adoration:

[ColoKent]

We have little information on the design of the original external tanks, but we know that there have been several different models used. It would have been difficult to model all of them, especially without more details and images!

There are many photos of these alternate tanks on the web, and I **might** even have a drawing. I’m happy to forward this material to you if it would help.

Kent

[WarHorse47]

This thread needs to be closed or moved to the P3D forum as it is no longer relevant to FSX as stated by the developer. :pop4:

[chrismot]

Hi,

To respond more specifically to Kent, each different tank also has different attachments, or pylons. These attachments are also used for bombs and rockets racks... As our Vampire is compatible with Tacpack, this implies a number of problems for weapons adaptation. This is one more reason why we decided not to model other types of tanks...

A thousand apologies...! We'll try to do better with the Venom DH-112...

[ColoKent]

Ah....forgot about TACPACK implications....I knew there was a reason I hate TACPACK, even though I own it and use it if I have to (to see external stores on aircraft without loadout managers...but I'm not a shoot 'em up, drop bombs kind of guy in P3D...).

So you ARE doing a Venom!!!!!!! OUTSTANDING!!!!!!

Kent

[musterpilot]

Hi guys just like to point out the Australian livery is not right it is British all Australian Vampires rego was Axx-x no big deal just sayinghttp://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=75127&stc=1

[Maury2008]

I know it doesn't fit with this addon, but I don't know how to get support, I bought the previous addon, SWISSMILSIM - MORANE D-3801 1940-1950 FSX P3D but I can't install it
in p3d v2, when i start the installation and select the simulator version, it tells me that it cannot find it and the installation ends,
I also sent an email to support, can someone help me?

[chrismot]

I know it doesn't fit with this addon, but I don't know how to get support, I bought the previous addon, SWISSMILSIM - MORANE D-3801 1940-1950 FSX P3D but I can't install it
in p3d v2, when i start the installation and select the simulator version, it tells me that it cannot find it and the installation ends,
I also sent an email to support, can someone help me?

Hello,
Your question was received by support... Please be patient! The answer will come soon...

[chrismot]

Hi guys just like to point out the Australian livery is not right it is British all Australian Vampires rego was Axx-x no big deal just sayinghttp://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=75127&stc=1

Hi...

A paintkit comes with the original Vampire... We would be very happy if it could be used for a real nice australian livery...!

[ColoKent]

Chris...give as an Aussie variant with “elephant ear” intakes and avionics hump on the nose...

Kent

[musterpilot]

Did a repaint today on the international Vampire if I knew how to post the files I would may be someone can help



https://i.imgur.com/EO5AI3S.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/q6cEIJD.jpg

[ColoKent]

Nice looking!

Kent

[musterpilot]

Thanks mate I am going to see if I can upload it

[WarHorse47]

Nice. I'd be curious to see if your paint will work with the FSX Swiss model.

[chrismot]

Nice. I'd be curious to see if your paint will work with the FSX Swiss model.

Only with the Original Vampire... Not the Swiss, which makes sense!

[ZsoltB]

I would like to purchase the P3D version
Do you have parking objects? (ribbons, covers)?
Pilot removable in parking position?