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klnowak
September 29th, 2019, 01:19
Some weeks ago i started to do the three ships of the Independence class that stayed in duty with the US Navy in the 1950th. These three ships are the USS Monterey (CVL-26), the USS Cabot (CVL-28) and the USS Bataan (CVL-29).



Looking for a good base model to convert these ships to there outfit from the 1950th i found the USS Cabot from Alberto (jagl04) and he gave his permission to use his fine ship to start work on.



The USS Bataan (CVL-29) took place in Korean War. Both other ships had been used as training carriers. The USS Monterey (CVL-26) got a special mission after the hurricane in Honduras in Sep.1953. For this mission she carried helicopters on her deck.

USS Bataan (CVL-29) and USS Cabot (CVL-28) were converted for sub hunting missions. USS Monterey (CVL-26) lost all her weapons to be a training carrier. All three models will have all the differences they got in real.

As my Essex-Class carriers they will get different deck layouts and also that working barrier.




Some history (from Wikipedia)

Adapted from the design for the Cleveland-class (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland-class_cruiser) light cruisers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_cruiser), this class of ship resulted from the interest of President Franklin D. Roosevelt (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_Delano_Roosevelt) in naval air power. With war looming, the former Assistant Secretary of the Navy noted no new fleet aircraft carriers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_carrier) were expected to be completed before 1944. He proposed to convert some of the many cruisers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruiser) then under construction to carriers. Studies of cruiser-size aircraft carriers had shown the type had serious limitations, and on 13 October 1941, the General Board of the United States Navy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Board_of_the_United_States_Navy) replied that such a conversion showed too many compromises to be effective.
Undeterred, President Roosevelt ordered another study. On 25 October 1941, the Navy's Bureau of Ships (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BuShips) reported that aircraft carriers converted from cruiser hulls would be of lesser capability, but available much sooner. After the December 1941 attack on Pearl Harbor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_Pearl_Harbor), the need for more carriers became urgent. The Navy accelerated construction of the 34,000-ton Essex-class (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essex-class_aircraft_carrier) aircraft carriers, but these large ships could not be finished quickly. So in January 1942, the Navy also ordered that a Cleveland-class light cruiser then under construction be completed instead as a light aircraft carrier. It became USS Belleau Wood (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Belleau_Wood_(CVL-24)), the first ship of the Independence class.
Plans developed for this conversion showed much more promise than expected. Two more light cruisers were reordered as carriers in February, three more in March, and a final three in June 1942. The Independence-class design had a relatively short and narrow flight deck (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_deck) and hangar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hangar), with a small island superstructure (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superstructure). The hangar, flight deck, and island represented a significant increase in the ship's topside weight. To compensate for this, blisters were added to the original cruiser hull, which increased the original beam (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beam_(nautical)) by 5 feet (1.5 m). Ships of this class carried a small air group – only about 30 aircraft. This was originally set to consist of nine fighters (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighter_aircraft), nine scout bombers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bomber), and nine torpedo bombers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torpedo_bomber), but later revised to about two dozen fighters and nine torpedo bombers.
These were limited-capability ships, whose principal virtue was near-term availability. Their limited size made for seakeeping difficulties in the many typhoons of the Pacific, and their small flight decks led to a relatively high aircraft accident rate. However, being based on a light cruiser, they were fast ships, much faster than the Casablanca-class (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casablanca-class_escort_carrier) escort carriers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escort_carrier). The cruiser hull and engineering allowed them the speed necessary to operate with the main fleet carrier task groups. Their names followed the US Navy's policy of naming aircraft carriers after historic navy ships (Independence) or historic battles (Cowpens)

There was little margin for growth, as the ships' post-war careers showed. Independence was expended as an atomic bomb target, and the rest were laid up in 1947. Five returned to service in 1948–53, two with the French Navy. Two were used as training carriers, while Bataan saw Korean War (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War) combat duty with Marine Corps air groups. She and Cabot received anti-submarine warfare modernizations in the early 1950s, emerging with two funnels (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funnel_(ship)) instead of the original four. All but the French ships were decommissioned in 1954–56 and were reclassified as aircraft transports in 1959. Cabot got a new lease on life in 1967, when she became the Spanish Navy's carrier Dédalo, serving until 1989 (in Spanish service, she was the first carrier to regularly deploy the Harrier jump jet (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawker_Siddeley_Harrier)). Despite efforts to preserve her, Cabot was scrapped at Brownsville in 1999–2003. Preservation efforts continued until the hull was half scrapped.

Work on this carriers made a good progress over the last week. So i will show some pictures here as the look till now.


USS Cabot (CVL-28)

https://up.picr.de/36869826dc.jpg

https://up.picr.de/36869828ep.jpg

https://up.picr.de/36869830br.jpg

https://up.picr.de/36869831rz.jpg

greetings
Klaus

klnowak
September 29th, 2019, 01:23
USS Monterey (CVL-26) with T6 Texan on her deck and without weapons

https://up.picr.de/36869844of.jpg

https://up.picr.de/36869845kq.jpg

https://up.picr.de/36869846mv.jpg

https://up.picr.de/36869847ki.jpg

klnowak
September 29th, 2019, 01:25
The USS Monterey (CVL-26) during her Honduras mission with helicopter on her deck

https://up.picr.de/36869875vl.jpg

https://up.picr.de/36869876dh.jpg

https://up.picr.de/36869877zj.jpg

klnowak
September 29th, 2019, 01:28
USS Bataan (CVL-29) during Korean War

https://up.picr.de/36869894ga.jpg

https://up.picr.de/36869895mz.jpg

https://up.picr.de/36869897kk.jpg

https://up.picr.de/36869898aa.jpg

greetings
Klaus

xpelekis
September 29th, 2019, 01:50
Just beautiful ! And very challenging to land in such a short deck... Crash landings probably.

klnowak
September 29th, 2019, 01:52
And a little bit of playing around and testing in FSX

https://up.picr.de/36870083wf.jpg

https://up.picr.de/36870084oy.jpg

https://up.picr.de/36870085ty.jpg

greetings
Klaus

xpelekis
September 29th, 2019, 03:07
Is it possible deck textures to be substituted with higher resolution textures ? It's the only "weak" spot of these carriers I think...

Radioman123
September 29th, 2019, 07:13
This is very impressive.

p14u2nv
September 30th, 2019, 10:49
Simply amazing the level of detail in these boats. Forget the new flight simulator coming out and the worry of not having the equipment to run it as intended...this is a new level to fall back on IMHO! Thanks very much Klaus, your work is truly outstanding.

klnowak
October 4th, 2019, 09:17
Thanks for all the words.

But.... i will stop working on these models.

Two days ago Fernando Diaz gave me an advise to another base model to use for these ships. Opend his link (unbeleaveble.... its freeware with the licens to use and change !). Never saw models like that to be used in a flightsimulator. So i started to change and convert these models for fsx.


But first..... this is the original model..... details in a way i never saw before... even not in any payware.

https://up.picr.de/36908186so.jpg


Worked for two nights (completly... so fastcinating....) and thats the first result of changing this model to the USS Bataan in the 1950th. Barrier is working too and next step will be to do the crew, planes and so on. So it will take a little bit longer to finisch these models but i decide that i will now do all the ships of the class... even the models from WW II, the to ships France get and the one that was in use in Spain.
All will have that level of detail.

Thats what it is today....

https://up.picr.de/36908187zl.jpg

https://up.picr.de/36908188mv.jpg

https://up.picr.de/36908189wa.jpg

greetings
Klaus

xpelekis
October 4th, 2019, 09:26
Oh, man ! So many fascinating things are running at the same time in FSX right now... Thank God it's Friday's !...
BTW, I've installed some of your Normandy LW Airfields fora project I'm running & great work over there also...

gastonj
October 5th, 2019, 02:35
Hi,

What about the link of F Diaz?

Can you post it ?

JMC

klnowak
October 13th, 2019, 10:15
What the ships are looking today......

USS Monterey (CVL-26) in 1950 used as traing carrier. No weapons on board, closed bridge.

https://up.picr.de/36986887ke.jpg


USS Monterey (CVL-26) in 1953 used as helicopter carrier after hurricane in Honduras. No weapons on board, closed bridge.

https://up.picr.de/36986891he.jpg

USS Bataan (CVL-29) in 1951 used as attac carrier during the Korean War. Weapons on board, closed bridge and other Antennas.

https://up.picr.de/36986902xa.jpg

USS Bataan (CVL-29) in 1944 used as attac carrier during the WW II. Weapons on board, open bridge and with hellcat aircraft

https://up.picr.de/36986908ax.jpg


greetings
Klaus

klnowak
October 13th, 2019, 10:20
USS Bataan (CVL-29) in 1945 used as attac carrier during the WW II. Weapons on board, open bridge and with F4F Corsair aircraft

https://up.picr.de/36987050qo.jpg


USS Bataan (CVL-29) in 1945 used as attac carrier during the WW II. Open bridge.

https://up.picr.de/36987051iq.jpg


USS Bataan (CVL-29) in 1951 used as attac carrier during the Korean War. Closed bridge and other changes on this ship.

https://up.picr.de/36987055ts.jpg

greetings
Klaus

mercure
October 13th, 2019, 13:01
Klaus, you're the boss!

expat
October 14th, 2019, 03:00
Love your work Klaus!

xpelekis
October 14th, 2019, 03:29
Great stuff, indeed.

klnowak
October 20th, 2019, 08:42
Now it is done... the first part of the Independence Class carriers is ready. Will come with all the US carriers from WWII and the 1950th. Second part will come with the french and spanish carriers from the Independence class later.

Did last work on them last weekend, little changes and then a new compiling of the models. After this, during first testing, i got a slight show during landing on this carriers. Very bad frames. So i spend the whole week to find the mistake. Got it just yesterday and now they are very smooth in frames again.

So in this week there will be three different pacages of carriers. The independence class, the USS Ranger and the Saipan class. The USS Midway class from the 1950 is neerly ready too.

Last shots from the USS Bataan and the USS Monterey

https://up.picr.de/37040637cf.jpg

https://up.picr.de/37040639qh.jpg

https://up.picr.de/37040640ac.jpg

greetings
Klaus

dhasdell
October 20th, 2019, 08:54
I've never had a good home for my Just Flight Atlantic Wildcat, but now at last I will. Thank you.

blanston12
October 20th, 2019, 10:56
Great news! I await this in great anticipation.


I've never had a good home for my Just Flight Atlantic Wildcat, but now at last I will. Thank you.

Speaking of the JF Wildcat, every time I land it on a carrier using the tail hook, I end up plating the AC's nose in the deck, is there a trick to landing this AC?

dhasdell
October 20th, 2019, 12:40
No trick, but there's an edit for the aircraft.cfg. I'll see if I can find it.

llanning08
October 21st, 2019, 03:38
This fix seemed to work for me in FSX Accelleration:

Locate this section in the working cfg.

[TailHook]

Delete the whole section = 4 lines.

copy paste this replacement in its place,


[TailHook]
tailhook_length = 2.50
tailhook_position = -20.100, 0.000, -0.500
cable_force_adjust = 2.0

TARPSBird
October 21st, 2019, 04:33
This fix seemed to work for me in FSX Accelleration:
Locate this section in the working cfg.
[TailHook]
Delete the whole section = 4 lines.
copy paste this replacement in its place,
[TailHook]
tailhook_length = 2.50
tailhook_position = -20.100, 0.000, -0.500
cable_force_adjust = 2.0

I'm using those exact same [tailhook] numbers, I think they were posted here a long time ago. Works good. :encouragement:

dhasdell
October 21st, 2019, 05:26
Yes, I think that was it. I saved it somewhere safe - no prizes for guessing what that means :banghead:

klnowak
October 31st, 2019, 22:44
Upload is done :jump:

greetings
Klaus