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e.a.wicklund
March 20th, 2019, 13:43
I'm looking for skins for the FDG P-51D, preferably of the Blue-Nosed Bastards of 352nd FS. The search function seems to miss things sometimes. So if y'all know of any skins, I'd appreciate it.

Otherwise, any 352nd P-51Ds with breaking parts?

I've got the Alphasim, VB, Wai, L'Homme P-51D mustangs, but as far as I can tell, they don't have breaking parts (4x20mm don't knock anything off).

Know of any breaking-parts blue-nosed bastards?

Rami
March 20th, 2019, 14:05
E.A. Wicklund,

Of all the aircraft, you'd think we'd have an updated model of this, but the best model is the AcWai version, which rumor has it he is updating. There are numerous skins for that model.

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links_search.php?action=search&tabid=446

Search in the CFS2 skins -American section, and in the "Search text" box, type Andrew Wai or AcWai, and you will see the repaints for the model.

Link to aircraft: http://thefreeflightsite.com/awp51d.zip

Captain Kurt
March 20th, 2019, 15:21
To each his own, but I don't share Rami's opinion of the best P-51D model. For my money the best model we have is the Alphsim P-51D. To me, it comes the closest to the shape and look of the real aircraft - again IMHO. That's the most important thing for me. It's drawback is that it is a single LOD, but the power of today's computers seem to handle many of them in the air at the same time without any trouble. Just to illustrate my reasoning for my personal choice, you may compare the Alphasim Mustang in the top slot with the real thing in the middle and the AW Mustang in the bottom slot.

On the other hand if a multi LOD aircraft is your priority, then perhaps the AW Mustang is your bird of choice. Also, beauty is in the eye of the beholder so I'm sure there are lots of other opinions out there that don't agree with mine. That's fine and as it should be. Even though we don't have a truly definitive Mustang model, we do have several choices. There is also the FDG2 P-51D, Allen's P-51D, the BR P-51D, and the VB Planes P-51D.

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=68151&stc=1

Allen
March 20th, 2019, 15:34
My P-51D like all of my aircraft are made for putting massive numbers in the air so they are lite on detail. My P-51D is breaking parts and uses a modded CFS3 P-51D skin so it could be an option.

Rami
March 20th, 2019, 15:37
To each his own, but I don't share Rami's opinion of the best P-51D model. For my money the best model we have is the Alphsim P-51D. To me, it comes the closest to the shape and look of the real aircraft - again IMHO. That's the most important thing for me. It's drawback is that it is a single LOD, but the power of today's computers seem to handle many of them in the air at the same time without any trouble. Just to illustrate my reasoning for my personal choice, you may compare the Alphasim Mustang in the top slot with the real thing in the middle and the AW Mustang in the bottom slot.

On the other hand if a multi LOD aircraft is your priority, then perhaps the AW Mustang is your bird of choice. Also, beauty is in the eye of the beholder so I'm sure there are lots of other opinions out there that don't agree with mine. That's fine and as it should be. Even though we don't have a truly definitive Mustang model, we do have several choices. There is also the FDG2 P-51D, Allen's P-51D, the BR P-51D, and the VB Planes P-51D.

Kurt,

But is the Alphasim model multi-lod? And I'm pretty sure that the FDGv2 team didn't do a "D" model, it was just the original FDG team?

Captain Kurt
March 20th, 2019, 15:40
Thanks Allen, good call. I also noticed that Maxstuka has a breaking parts model of the FDG P-51D posted here. so E.A. has a lot of choices.


Allen's P-51D:
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=52&id=19429

Maxstuka's breaking parts A/C:
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=52&id=22182

Rami,

The Alphasim model is not multi-LOD. The drawback to the Alphasim model is that it is a single LOD as I noted. You are correct regarding the FDG P-51D - it's not FDG2 team's. I plead old age strikes again.

Allen
March 20th, 2019, 15:59
Is this the texture your looking for?

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Found it in the CFS3 and started fitting it to my CFS2 P-51D model. If this is the right-ish one I will finish fitting it the rest of the way.

e.a.wicklund
March 20th, 2019, 17:45
Is this the texture your looking for?

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=68154&stc=1

Found it in the CFS3 and started fitting it to my CFS2 P-51D model. If this is the right-ish one I will finish fitting it the rest of the way.

Allen, you rock. I didn't know you had a D Mustang. Yes, that's the scheme I've been looking for. Although, if I could have my cake and eat it too, I'd want "Cripes A'Mighty 3rd". Still any blue-nosed Mustang would be highly appreciated.
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=68156&stc=1


I gotta go with Kurt and say I'll take the Alpha Mustang over Wai's. Wai did a terrific job, and lot of skins are available, but the Alpha looks more Mustang-ey to me. My computer hasn't complained yet about too few LODs.

I'm kinda making things complicated, but I'm flying Akemi's 190A-8, and D-9 with Kurt's mods, then using Allen's A-8 and one of Maxstuka's D-9s for the AI enemies. Then I get to see them break up. Same situation with the P-51D & B. It's all a matter of taste, of course, and thank all of you guys for staying with it all these years and truly improving the game. Everything is so much better-looking and more sophisticated than what I remember.

AcWai
March 20th, 2019, 18:09
I am still working on the updated AW P-51D. This is what the new aircraft will probably look like.

e.a.wicklund
March 20th, 2019, 19:27
I am still working on the updated AW P-51D. This is what the new aircraft will probably look like.

Ooh, that is looking very, very good. I like the equipment detail behind the pilot's seat. Very realistic.

Roxane-21
March 21st, 2019, 00:36
Allen, thank you for making an actual skin for your P-51D. :encouragement:

After this one, any chance you could do a PTO skin, please? Any Mustang that flew missions over Japanese mainland from Iwo Jima would do the job. :engel016:

AcWai
March 21st, 2019, 06:04
If you are looking for any blue nose P-51D with D-day stripe. There is one called Scrappy.

Allen
March 21st, 2019, 06:51
@e.a.wicklund
Was able to find the same plane but latter in the war? Texture first by dswart and edited to fit my P-51D

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68173

@Roxane-21
I'd need to find somthing better than the stock CFS3 skin to work from...

e.a.wicklund
March 21st, 2019, 07:29
If you are looking for any blue nose P-51D with D-day stripe. There is one called Scrappy.

I like the looks of that one. But those don't look like D-Day invasion stripes. Isn't that a Pacific Mustang? That would be a cool addition for the Pacific.

e.a.wicklund
March 21st, 2019, 07:31
@e.a.wicklund
Was able to find the same plane but latter in the war? Texture first by dswart and edited to fit my P-51D

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=68172&stc=1
68173

@Roxane-21
I'd need to find somthing better than the stock CFS3 skin to work from...

Perfect! That's just what I wanted. Thanks bunches, Allen!

e.a.wicklund
March 21st, 2019, 08:30
If you are looking for any blue nose P-51D with D-day stripe. There is one called Scrappy.

Just got to my PC, and now that I see it on a bigger screen, I see it is an ETO Mustang. I still like it. Available soon?

e.a.wicklund
March 21st, 2019, 10:08
Allen - Digging the new Mustang...

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=68174&stc=1

Roxane-21
March 21st, 2019, 14:09
@Roxane-21
I'd need to find somthing better than the stock CFS3 skin to work from...

Nevermind, I have just found out that skins made for AW P-51D will fit yours with only a limited editing effort, since both of you used CFS3 mapping template. :wavey:

BoeingvsAirbusNKL
March 23rd, 2019, 05:30
Could you do a p-51b repaint representing the tuskegee airmen, please?

It would be for your p51b addon.

AcWai
March 23rd, 2019, 06:17
I have trimmed the canopy a little bit yesterday. Here are 2 screen shots of the AW P-51D.

There is a Tuskegee P-51D available, but I don't have a P-51B.

Roxane-21
March 23rd, 2019, 06:59
I have trimmed the canopy a little bit yesterday. Here are 2 screen shots of the AW P-51D.

There is a Tuskegee P-51D available, but I don't have a P-51B.

It looks very good! :encouragement:

Just a couple of questions:

1- Will you provide skins for every theaters (ETO, MTO, PTO)?

2- Will skins designed for your previous version work with this new one?

e.a.wicklund
March 23rd, 2019, 08:47
I have trimmed the canopy a little bit yesterday. Here are 2 screen shots of the AW P-51D.

There is a Tuskegee P-51D available, but I don't have a P-51B.

That's terrific. Canopy looks just right now.

AcWai
March 23rd, 2019, 20:53
It looks very good! :encouragement:

Just a couple of questions:

1- Will you provide skins for every theaters (ETO, MTO, PTO)?

2- Will skins designed for your previous version work with this new one?

Thanks for the comments. All the prior skins work with this aircraft with one minor modification to the propeller.bmp file. I have added a few common new bmp files.

I went to the air show today and took a lot of photos of a P-51D Mustang. It looks like I need to shrink the top horizontal VC cockpit frame by may be 10% to 5%. It will be a minor modification.

sixstrings5859
March 24th, 2019, 09:22
Been looking for a really good P-51D for the PTO. Any suggestions ? Are any in the works ? Regards,Scott

Roxane-21
March 24th, 2019, 11:03
Been looking for a really good P-51D for the PTO. Any suggestions ? Are any in the works ? Regards,Scott

Try the ALPHASIM P-51D conversion made by Morton. He included a skin for 'Margaret-IV', which flew missions over Japan from Iwo Jima.
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=52&id=17616

As stated above, ALPHASIM P-51D lacks LODs, so it might hit your frame rate hard. If you need a multi-LOD model, try Andrew Wai's Mustang (he will release a reworked version soon).

His current model: https://simviation.com/1/download?file=GM_P51D_Old_Crow.zip&fileId=32432
Authentic flight model by Jay McDaniel: http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=17&id=14157
There are many PTO skins for it:
"Mrs Bonnie" (Ie Shima, Okinawa): http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=57&id=1973
"Foxy" (Iwo Jima): http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=57&id=1961
Major Clyde B Slocumb (Luliang, China): http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=57&id=1981
Lt Colonel Edward O McComas (Luliang, China): http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=57&id=1975
"Lady Marion" (Philippines): http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=57&id=1968
"Sunshine VII" (Philippines): http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=57&id=1983
"The Flying Undertaker" (Philippines): http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=57&id=1984

sixstrings5859
March 24th, 2019, 17:15
Thanks Roxane for all the info. I have the AlphaSim P-51D but not the other. Will wait till the reworked model comes out and give it a try. Enjoy the ones i have for CFS3 and IL-2 '46 and one for CFS2 is a must have. Alpha Sim's P-51D runs great on my pc but the more the merrier ! Sticking to only the PTO for CFS2 as the AI is so lacking but still fun to play. Will stick to the ETO with CFS3 and IL-2. Regards,Scott

AcWai
April 2nd, 2019, 17:16
I did some work on the AW P-51D this weekend. Here is what the outside looks like now.

sixstrings5859
April 3rd, 2019, 02:21
Looks really nice. Thanks. Regards,Scott

e.a.wicklund
April 3rd, 2019, 19:39
Looking good. Did you do some work on the nose?

AcWai
April 4th, 2019, 10:03
Looking good. Did you do some work on the nose?

Yes. I have lowered the front a little bit and changed the bottom air scoop.