RAF Brüggen - first impressions

[Manschy]

Hi all,

while needing a short break at RAF Gutersloh (adding details like traffic signs, fences or taxi spots burns my brain at current weather) I did my first steps to cover the air base with self made ground polys like at RAF Gutersloh. It's a very early stadium (looks good on screenshots but a lot of details have to be added :jump: ). But it's much easier to add big areas instead of miscellaneous odds and ends. Too hot for it.....

https://abload.de/img/etur_electric_bunker72fkl.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_electric_bunker72fkl.jpg)

https://abload.de/img/etur_electric_bunker_vbifu.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_electric_bunker_vbifu.jpg)

https://abload.de/img/etur_ne_area_2gjf24.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_ne_area_2gjf24.jpg)

https://abload.de/img/etur_nw_area_overview8odmj.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_nw_area_overview8odmj.jpg)

https://abload.de/img/etur_se_area_overview0eej0.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_se_area_overview0eej0.jpg)

[greenie]

Wow!..looks fantastic. Good work

[fsafranek]

Very, very nice looking.
:ernaehrung004:

[strykerpsg]

Fantastic design and work. Look forward to hopefully adding this when released, should it be made available to the public..... :jump:

[YoYo]

Crg! :applause:

[manfredc3]

You had me there for a bit. I thought I was looking at Real life pictures.

AMAZING work!!

[Manschy]

First work on the nuclear weapon areas done. A little tricky to fit the ground poly there with the forrest and areas dry ground...


https://abload.de/img/etur_wa_1qjf2w.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_wa_1qjf2w.jpg)


https://abload.de/img/etur_wa_2eucsu.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_wa_2eucsu.jpg)


Centre buildings are taking shape....


https://abload.de/img/etur_center_areasjefw.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_center_areasjefw.jpg)


https://abload.de/img/etur_center_area_2gte72.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_center_area_2gte72.jpg)


But most time consuming work is creating the hard surface polys like concrete and asphalt to make them look real.

[sp762]

Brilliant stuff, Manschy!

[falcon409]

Very impressive work there.

[Manschy]

https://abload.de/img/flats_beginning1ceiu.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=flats_beginning1ceiu.jpg)

https://abload.de/img/flats_beginning_2wwilm.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=flats_beginning_2wwilm.jpg)

[dhazelgrove]

Bring on the AI Jaguars/Buccaneers.

Will there be enough parking for four squadrons?

Dave

[Manschy]

This Brüggen will represent the mid 80s era - so stationed will be there Tornados for the most part. But if you like, you can place your own squadrons for sure. John Young did some fantastic Buccaneers (MAIW).
Currently, there are no usable AI Jaguars unfortunately. For the 70s, I would recommend also some of John Youngs Wattisham Phantoms using some RAF Brüggen repaints.

For all existing HAS there will be parkings - furthermore up to 20 specs on the main apron for visiting squadrons and three gates for military cargo or civilian visitors at the terminal. There will be five parkings as well inside the QRA continiously for the armed jets....

[Manschy]

This Brüggen will represent the mid 80s era - so stationed will be there Tornados for the most part. But if you like, you can place your own squadrons for sure. John Young did some fantastic Buccaneers (MAIW).
Currently, there are no usable AI Jaguars unfortunately. For the 70s, I would recommend also some of John Youngs Wattisham Phantoms using some RAF Brüggen repaints.

For all four squadrons (9, 14, 17 and 31) in front of the existing HAS there will be parkings - furthermore up to 20 specs on the main apron for visiting squadrons and three gates for military cargo or civilian visitors at the terminal. There will be five parkings as well inside the QRA continiously for the armed jets....

[Manschy]

Sorry for multiple last post....

Today some first details of SHQ, main entrance and tower areas...

https://abload.de/img/etur_new_impressions_65iir.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_new_impressions_65iir.jpg)

https://abload.de/img/etur_new_impressions_evetr.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_new_impressions_evetr.jpg)

https://abload.de/img/etur_new_impressions_mpdc6.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_new_impressions_mpdc6.jpg)

https://abload.de/img/etur_new_impressions_pocsp.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_new_impressions_pocsp.jpg)

https://abload.de/img/etur_new_impressions_y3cc4.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_new_impressions_y3cc4.jpg)

[strykerpsg]

Wow! Your attention to detail is simply stunning. It makes me want to find a way to walk around the field virtually to take in the details.

[dhazelgrove]

"Jaguar-onna-stick"?

Gimme...…

Dave

[Manschy]

Did some first experiments with SODE triggered gates in the QRA area. This site I also test the first GSE placement...

https://abload.de/img/etur_qra_gate_sode_154chu.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_qra_gate_sode_154chu.jpg)

https://abload.de/img/etur_qra_gate_sode_2hxd0n.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_qra_gate_sode_2hxd0n.jpg)

https://abload.de/img/etur_qra_gate_sode_3x9c90.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_qra_gate_sode_3x9c90.jpg)

[Manschy]

https://abload.de/img/etur_112018_maintbbe0w.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_112018_maintbbe0w.jpg)

https://abload.de/img/etur_112018_maint_24hijb.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_112018_maint_24hijb.jpg)

https://abload.de/img/etur_112018_barracks3qi1z.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_112018_barracks3qi1z.jpg)

[Manschy]

Proof of ongoing work: First seasonal textures....

https://abload.de/img/etur_avro_hw_1yvjoe.jpg (http://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_avro_hw_1yvjoe.jpg)

https://abload.de/img/etur_hw_1zxjtt.jpg (http://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_hw_1zxjtt.jpg)

https://abload.de/img/etur_hw_206kcs.jpg (http://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_hw_206kcs.jpg)

https://abload.de/img/etur_hw_51lklp.jpg (http://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_hw_51lklp.jpg)

[nigel richards]

Absolutely AWESOME scenery work as always, Manschy!

:ernaehrung004:

[JensOle]

That is looking stunning! To me it seems like you have a lot of passion for these old RAF bases in Germany and that shows!
All the small details are making a spectacular result. I hope we soon can see the sceneries in FS! It is possible to release them as a public beta before they are 100% :-)

Thank you for bringing back some of our modern history! I have been many times to Ramstein myself and if you move on outside of the KMCC there are a lot of cold war history to be seen.

[wombat666]

Out-Bloody-Standing!!!!
:applause::applause::applause:

[Manschy]

That's kind, thank you :wavey:

Today I finished the animated Hangar Doors. Most Hangars got interiours as well... All folded doors are techniques kindly provided by Steven Legg.

https://abload.de/img/hangar_center_small_dwaj96.jpg (http://abload.de/image.php?img=hangar_center_small_dwaj96.jpg)

https://abload.de/img/hangar_curved_doorsz8kx6.jpg (http://abload.de/image.php?img=hangar_curved_doorsz8kx6.jpg)

https://abload.de/img/hangar_east_doorsq5jvx.jpg (http://abload.de/image.php?img=hangar_east_doorsq5jvx.jpg)

https://abload.de/img/hangar_main_double_do2bj7v.jpg (http://abload.de/image.php?img=hangar_main_double_do2bj7v.jpg)

[ejoiner]

This is bloody excellent. Where to get this and when!?!??!

Brilliant work.:encouragement:

[Priller]

Out-Bloody-Standing!!!!
:applause::applause::applause:

What Wombat said!! ;)

Priller

[dhazelgrove]

Bruggen.
Gutersloh.

Wildenrath?

Dave

[Manschy]

I deleted this post because I posted it twice :numbness: accidentally...

[Manschy]

Wildenrath -it's itching to do it, but too little fotos or history unfortunately, I could use a lot of RAF Brüggen and/or RAF Gütersloh objects though...

[ejoiner]

Where to get these awesome sceneries?

[Manschy]

When released (don't ask for a date, please...) on most well known download pages for sure....

Now, these shots will be the final shots for the time being. I have to work on minor details like runway edge smoothing, markings, GSE, vehicles and so on.

Rails now added to RAF Brüggen....

Ramp west maintenance

https://abload.de/img/rails_ramp_eastepknp.jpg (http://abload.de/image.php?img=rails_ramp_eastepknp.jpg)

https://abload.de/img/rails_ramp_east_2wikb8.jpg (http://abload.de/image.php?img=rails_ramp_east_2wikb8.jpg)

https://abload.de/img/rails_ramp_east_3qik88.jpg (http://abload.de/image.php?img=rails_ramp_east_3qik88.jpg)

...first markings at HAS areas. Tricky, because each apron seems to have it's individual markings...

https://abload.de/img/first_smooth_edges_grbjkgi.jpg (http://abload.de/image.php?img=first_smooth_edges_grbjkgi.jpg)

[Navy Chief]

Holy caca! Such awesome detail work in your sceneries, Manschy:applause:

I am, as are so many other SOH, looking forward to this release! Thank you for all the work you have put into this! NC

[Manschy]

Thank you very much, NC!!!

Against all my expectations, I got earlier success to add specular maps to my ground polys. So, rather than expected some few latest shots. Meanwhile, dirt and marking layers were also added:

https://abload.de/img/etur_specular_solved_a2kdt.png (http://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_specular_solved_a2kdt.png)

https://abload.de/img/etur_specular_perfectstj0v.png (http://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_specular_perfectstj0v.png)

https://abload.de/img/etur_specular_perfect7djy3.png (http://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_specular_perfect7djy3.png)

https://abload.de/img/etur_specular_perfect4xjty.png

(http://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_specular_perfect4xjty.png)https ://abload.de/img/etur_specular_solved_4rj39.png (http://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_specular_solved_4rj39.png)

[Navy Chief]

Every screenshot you post, Manschy, looks better and better! NC

[Dimus]

Thank you very much, NC!!!

Against all my expectations, I got earlier success to add specular maps to my ground polys. So, rather than expected some few latest shots. Meanwhile, dirt and marking layers were also added:


Very nice work! It does makes a great difference doesn't it!

Have you tried adding bump maps too? I can't really make out from your screens. All those seams in the concrete would come to life.

[Manschy]

Thank you, guys.
Bump maps aren't added so far. Until now, I used 2048x2048 texture sheets which I arranged haphazardly instead of a big one-piece photoground. That way, I can use far less big texture files by simultaneously crisp ground textures. Will have a look if I add bump maps indeed. Would be challenging certainly....

[Dimus]

It is actually quite simple. If you have already assigned a spec map to your GP material you can assign a bump map too. You need of course to create that bump map first and it will need to be subtle in order not to overdo it. Combined with the spec map it gives 3d feeling to the surface. Also using different spec/bump maps on painted surfaces will further diversify the look:

https://i.imgur.com/MGGR7kt.jpg

I still have not applied PBR techniques on GPs. I need to do this soon and check what more this new hype may bring.

Your method of using GPs everywhere instead of photoreal background is inspiring. I can fully understand the work involved. Keep it up!:applause:

[Manschy]

Your shot is quite inspiring. Will give it a try definetely...One question though: Is it possible to place the bump map layer ON TOP of the markings layer? So that way, you won't have markings "above" the seams...

[Brytskiva]

Looks very good , and nice shine on the Asphalt !
:smile-new:

[downwind]

OMG, Manchy! Just saw this update. Such beautiful work. Said good-bye to FS9 with my new rig, but your RAF Gutersloh is unforgettable. Thank you for your dedication.

[Dimus]

Your shot is quite inspiring. Will give it a try definetely...One question though: Is it possible to place the bump map layer ON TOP of the markings layer? So that way, you won't have markings "above" the seams...

Sorry for the late reply Manchy, just saw your post.

The bump needs to be applied to the texture/material it represents. If this is below the markings layer then it will be below the markings. However, by applying a transparency level to the markings you get the seams showing them. Also markings can have their own bump and spec maps to represent the painted surface as different from the bare concrete. The actual markings on concrete are quite thick and often cover and fill the seams so having them above with a transparency looks quite good. I’ll see if I can find a screenshot to show you the effect.

[Manschy]

Thank you, Dimus. Decided to delay working on the bumps until I finished my night texturing....

Even progress is slowly, it goes on. So this week I started with the first night texturing, the road lighting, because this was a little tricky to get the light beams flat on the ground without any flickering and retaining the ground structures....

https://abload.de/img/etur_road_lightsx6jzb.png (http://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_road_lightsx6jzb.png)

https://abload.de/img/etur_road_lights_2rxk9c.png (http://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_road_lights_2rxk9c.png)

https://abload.de/img/etur_road_lights_3n2jvv.png

(http://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_road_lights_3n2jvv.png)

[Manschy]

https://abload.de/img/etur_road_lights_areaxkkp0.png (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_road_lights_areaxkkp0.png)

https://abload.de/img/etur_road_lights_area9skak.png (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_road_lights_area9skak.png)

[Dimus]

Very nice Manchy! :applause:

Is the light splash a textured surface laying a small distance from the ground? If so what is this distance?

Small note: You have a stray light splash without a pole in the middle of the road at the junction on the left side of the housing area.

[Manschy]

Ah, Eagle-Eye-Dimus is in the house :biggrin-new:

Yap, I have to locate and destroy it, thank you :applause: (Man, you have what it takes to get a beta tester...).

The light splashes to the ground are all one ground polygon, so its alpha is directly on the ground and allows the ground to shine through better than seperate added planes made as objects/planes... The screen with the Cobra shows it well.

[Dimus]

Ah, Eagle-Eye-Dimus is in the house :biggrin-new:

Yap, I have to locate and destroy it, thank you :applause: (Man, you have what it takes to get a beta tester...).

The light splashes to the ground are all one ground polygon, so its alpha is directly on the ground and allows the ground to shine through better than seperate added planes made as objects/planes... The screen with the Cobra shows it well.

That's good info Manschy, thanks! I have not tried that yet. In my scenery the light poles I placed are over photoreal background so I simply made a night map for the whole ground where the light splashes are simply painted on night version of the bitmap. I have tried light splash included on the light pole model itself for runway and taxiway lights, where I use a textured polygon a few centimeters from the ground.

For larger splashes like yours the GP method sounds great.

Btw I happen to be a beta tester, but it also comes with the job as ship surveyor.

[Manschy]

At first appereance not a milestone, but to me finally the last piece of the puzzle to get more reality into the scenery.
Today I added the first bump maps to the groundpolys, to the concrete areas at first. Not many will follow because of the performance and the upload size in mind. Furthermore, most grass textures are fine enough to fake 3D vegetation....Same with buildings btw...


https://abload.de/img/bump_conc_brighti4khr.png (https://abload.de/image.php?img=bump_conc_brighti4khr.png)


https://abload.de/img/bump_conc_cracked87kku.png (https://abload.de/image.php?img=bump_conc_cracked87kku.png)


https://abload.de/img/bump_conc_darksqj3d.png (https://abload.de/image.php?img=bump_conc_darksqj3d.png)


https://abload.de/img/bump_conc_seamlessf4kn3.png (https://abload.de/image.php?img=bump_conc_seamlessf4kn3.png)

[Brytskiva]

:applause::jump::adoration::encouragement:

[delta_lima]

Crazy gorgeous - can't wait to fly out of there.

Come to think of it, I'm not sure what I have in my hangar that could, as my Milviz Phantom is dead in the water for P3D, and Dean's Jaguar is a long ways off. I haven't yet tried Dave Garwood's Hunters - I'm think they work in P3DV4 ... or ... save up for the JF Tornado, hoping it's not as much a hog in this sim as it was in FSX.

Either way - looks delightful, and will be much appreciated.

dl

[RobM]

Crazy gorgeous - can't wait to fly out of there.

I haven't yet tried Dave Garwood's Hunters - I'm think they work in P3DV4.

dl

The Hunters look good and fly well in P3Dv4.5hf.

-Rob

[delta_lima]

The Hunters look good and fly well in P3Dv4.5hf.

-Rob

Thanks Rob!

Great work Manfred. This will be lovely when done. Already is, really...:ernaehrung004:

[Dimus]

Great work on the bumps Manchy!

They may need a bit of a toning down in intensity imho, but you seem to have gotten the hang of it.

[Manschy]

Thank you all!

@Dimus: Yes you are quite right. Especially the bright concrete looks a little too rough. Using that material, no air base will grant its premission to any aircraft.

@DL: I run the JF Tonka in P3Dv4 (reply #17) and man, it's worth each cent to my opinion - even if my rig is far away from latest performance (3.7 Ghz in turbo...)

Because the air base represents the late 80s, I would suggest any kind of Tornados indeed, when you are purposing to use Brüggen as your home base.

But I notice you are from Vancouver, Canada.
Those days, a lot of canadian visitors had taken an active part in many NATO exercises, so I also can imagine many RCAF aircraft like Starfighter or C-130, but also F-18. Lots of alternatives you see and fun anyway....

[Manschy]

Hope next weeks I can do some more final steps (setting fences, final cars, 3-D grass, corrections to some bleeding ground polys...). Was really hard weeks in life so only few minutes left to get my hands on Brüggen last months.
Just to keep you in line and a proof of a living project some overviews and how the whole airfield is fitting into the surrounding ORBX-area... And that a high level of details needs some time for realisation...


https://abload.de/img/overview_elmptvwkix.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=overview_elmptvwkix.jpg)
https://abload.de/img/north_to_south_complej6jqv.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=north_to_south_complej6jqv.jpg)
https://abload.de/img/overview_northtajpp.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=overview_northtajpp.jpg)
https://abload.de/img/southwest_to_northwesjoko4.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=southwest_to_northwesjoko4.jpg)
https://abload.de/img/southeast_to_southwesjik4t.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=southeast_to_southwesjik4t.jpg)

https://abload.de/img/overview_west7rkdn.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=overview_west7rkdn.jpg)

[Sundog]

That is looking amazing. Nice work and thanks for the previews. :)

[Navy Chief]

Manschy,

Your work is nothing short of amazing! I can sympathize with real life problems. I hope you are able to solve whatever problems you are dealing with. NC

[Manschy]

Thank you very much, NC.

There are no problems I can't deal with, but a change of occupation and a lot of time investment regarding this.
I feel optimistic about a faster and more concentrating ongoing work on this project the next weeks again...

[ejoiner]

waiting patiently for this one because it looks utterly amazing.

[Manschy]

Thank you very much.

Here some few more shots "behind the scenes" which show the amount of details...damn, Brüggen is almost a town....



https://abload.de/img/behind_the_scenes_1wtk41.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=behind_the_scenes_1wtk41.jpg)





https://abload.de/img/behind_the_scenes_3wmjps.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=behind_the_scenes_3wmjps.jpg)


https://abload.de/img/etur_soccerfield_1dcjp6.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_soccerfield_1dcjp6.jpg)


https://abload.de/img/behind_the_scenes_41akln.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=behind_the_scenes_41akln.jpg)


https://abload.de/img/behind_the_scenes_6mkjgs.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=behind_the_scenes_6mkjgs.jpg)


https://abload.de/img/behind_the_scenes_5f8kkn.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=behind_the_scenes_5f8kkn.jpg)

[DaleRFU]

Looks absolutely stunning. I've recently gotten into flying in VR and flying the JF Tornado in VR is amazing so having a detailed home base like this will be fantastic. Keep up the fantastic work.

[Navy Chief]

So realistic and incredibly detailed! I will probably spend a lot of time, driving around through the town. I'll need to find a good vehicle! Although I've had vehicles installed before, I don't have any currently. NC

[Brytskiva]

really looking good , very good !! :applause:

[Dimus]

Fantastic work Manfred! I can appreciate the endless hours you have spent on making this!:applause:

[shotgunshack]

"Currently, there are no usable AI Jaguars unfortunately"

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=72417&stc=1

MAIW have a very acceptable Jaguar Manschy. Cannot find any RAF Germany repaints though.

[hschuit]

Manfred wrote "Currently, there are no usable AI Jaguars unfortunately" before the FSX/P3D Jaguars were released. I made a couple of Laarbruch 2 Sqn paints for that release, together with an updated paintkit. Afaik there are no Bruggen Sqn paints yet.

Henk


"Currently, there are no usable AI Jaguars unfortunately"

MAIW have a very acceptable Jaguar Manschy. Cannot find any RAF Germany repaints though.

[sp762]

Looking awesome!

[Navy Chief]

Manschy,

How's development going? I believe I can speak for all SOH members, in that we look forward to this! Merry Christmas! NC:encouragement:

[Manschy]

Thank you, NC. Some days ago, I got a new rig and have a lot of work to get all my installations and programmes back to where they belong :running:. Unfortunately there are some issues with Gmax, most needed programme to me. Furthermore, my beloved CorelDraw seems to be much too old for Win10 now....Will see how I can get this managed....Blessedly my old PC is right beside the new one....

Merry Christmas too to all of you :santahat:

[Navy Chief]

Well, congratulations on your new rig, Manschy! Sorry to hear of the problems involving CorelDraw. Hopefully you will figure out a way to get things back, but thank you for the immense amount of work you have put into your RAF Bruggen project! Pete



Thank you, NC. Some days ago, I got a new rig and have a lot of work to get all my installations and programmes back to where they belong :running:. Unfortunately there are some issues with Gmax, most needed programme to me. Furthermore, my beloved CorelDraw seems to be much too old for Win10 now....Will see how I can get this managed....Blessedly my old PC is right beside the new one....

Merry Christmas too to all of you :santahat:

[Manschy]

Hi everybody,

I have to apologize again that I wasn't heard from again - but after getting my new rig close to christmas and after reinstalling all software components around New Year I got a complex system breakdown including a damaged graphics card :banghead: . Work of a month for nothing :sorrow:

So currently, I am imploringly waiting for the new card. Furthermore, it will take for sure about another 2 weeks to get all stuff back installed as before.
So please be patient, the project is not dead!

[Navy Chief]

My goodness Manschy, you are really having one bad event after another! I am confident that I speak for all of SOH members, in that we hope you can get all of your problems fixed and your system up and running again! All the best to you. NC:encouragement:



Hi everybody,

I have to apologize again that I wasn't heard from again - but after getting my new rig close to christmas and after reinstalling all software components around New Year I got a complex system breakdown including a damaged graphics card :banghead: . Work of a month for nothing :sorrow:

So currently, I am imploringly waiting for the new card. Furthermore, it will take for sure about another 2 weeks to get all stuff back installed as before.
So please be patient, the project is not dead!

[TiAr]

Thank you, NC. Some days ago, I got a new rig and have a lot of work to get all my installations and programmes back to where they belong :running:. Unfortunately there are some issues with Gmax, most needed programme to me. Furthermore, my beloved CorelDraw seems to be much too old for Win10 now....Will see how I can get this managed....Blessedly my old PC is right beside the new one....


I got the same issue with my long, long loved CorelDraw/Photopaint last month when changing Win10 to my new rig. Now new (low cost) Corel Draw Home&Student 2019 is my choice and is working much better than the old stuff.

Take your time with RAF Brüggen you need. All the very best to you!!

Thomas

[Manschy]

Thank you, Thomas.

Meanwhile, there seems to be a solution to get CorelDraw X4 running on Win10 as well.
Copying the whole content of the Corel CD to the harddrive. Copy the "setup.exe", rename it to "install.exe". Run "install.exe" and it will install! It's just a problem of the installer, not of the whole programme!!!!!!

[Manschy]

Okay, back again....


Next step is still an experience to me - rain/water effects on the ground! Although I understand how to use the different maps and textures, it is still a hard job to know how to combine it for a good appearance. So there are some existing issues with the reflected scenery: It is still not the surrounding environment, and I got some breaking layers between the weather changes (hard cut borders...). Anyway, as a proof of the ongoing project, today some first pics of wet ground at Brüggen...


https://abload.de/img/etur_rain_1fnjxe.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_rain_1fnjxe.jpg)


https://abload.de/img/etur_rain_29gjyf.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_rain_29gjyf.jpg)


https://abload.de/img/etur_rain_37bkos.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_rain_37bkos.jpg)


https://abload.de/img/etur_rain_61fjsi.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_rain_61fjsi.jpg)


https://abload.de/img/etur_rain_57vk5p.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_rain_57vk5p.jpg)

[Navy Chief]

So nice to see some progress, Manfred! So much bad news right now, but yours is good news! NC

[thunderstreak]

Wow! Looks great!

[Manschy]

Thank you.



It's been a long time since the last shots. So after my PC system exchange, a graphics card crash directly afterwards and the necissity to reinstall all progs and addons, now some new shots will be the proof of the ongoing development.


Some final shots for now of the rain poly progress....


https://abload.de/img/etur_rain_more_1x5jy7.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_rain_more_1x5jy7.jpg)


Puddles added to the concrete surface.s. By comparison we can see the dark dry spots where the puddles appear normally... It's a bit tricky to get varyingly wet surfaces...


https://abload.de/img/etur_rain_puddles_dryxqkkb.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_rain_puddles_dryxqkkb.jpg)
https://abload.de/img/etur_rain_puddles_wet40j80.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_rain_puddles_wet40j80.jpg)


That's it so far regarding the rain polys. I now have badly to understand how to get the surrounding areas reflecting correctly into the wet surfaces..

[TiAr]

Manfred, it seems that you are using global_env_... for your reflections, too. For reflections of current objects, you should go with PBR only.

Thomas

[Manschy]

Too tired for now, but I would like to PM you tomorrow, hopefully to get a proper solution to my continuing issue with not-shown surrounding area....Will ask Christian Bahr as well because he knows a lot about it :running:. But now I have to go to :sleeping:

[Manschy]

@ Thomas:
I did some changes and trials and errors and different settings and had a lot of coffee and now I am running in turbo mode :running: but it seems to finally showing the results I had been looking for:

https://abload.de/img/etur_rain_better_12ejs8.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_rain_better_12ejs8.jpg)

https://abload.de/img/etur_rain_better_2bykq4.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_rain_better_2bykq4.jpg)

A little tricky was to get the dry textures of the overlay poly the same as the wet puddle textures, so the very same texture...
Oh, and I have to add, there was no issue as I assumed with the surrounding area - I only had to push the "Dynamic Reflection" controller to "high" at minimum.

[Sundog]

Manschy, that looks amazing! Nice work.

[TiAr]

Wow, yesss, thats great!

Thomas

[Manschy]

Thank you, guys.

Final SODE Runway animations - Foremost a big thank you to Stephen Legg who created the fantastic Overrun barriers. They are animated according to the wind direction. "Up" headwind side, "Down" tailwind side.


https://abload.de/img/etur_steven_legg_or_beijos.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_steven_legg_or_beijos.jpg)


https://abload.de/img/etur_steven_legg_or_bzhkqr.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_steven_legg_or_bzhkqr.jpg)


Animated windsocks and mobile tower, depending on wind direction and strength as well, the sheer windsock from the library of Jacques-Paul Bollard. At release, you have to download it seperately to get the sock in place.


https://abload.de/img/etur_windsock_mobile_d0jm1.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_windsock_mobile_d0jm1.jpg)




Groundcrew now being placed to most frequented areas...All 3D people from the 3D-people Library of David Marshall, compiled for FSX/P3D by Wolfgang Allers...At release, you have to download the library seperately to get the people in place.


https://abload.de/img/etur_crew_main_apronnmk8u.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_crew_main_apronnmk8u.jpg)

[TiAr]

Manfred,

very impressive. Your pictures bring back many good memories for me. As a little boy I often visited my grandparents who lived east of Siegen in Hessen/Germany. There was a low-flying corridor there in the seventies and eighties, which was mainly used by British jet fighters like Harrier, Jaguar, Canberra, F-4 Phantom, Lightning and later Tornados and Hawks.

They often flew together with Canadian or USAF F-4 Phantom or with German F-104 Starfighter, G-91, F-4 Phantom or Alphajets.

At that time in the cold war they flew very low, partly below the hills there.

Greetings to Wolfgang Allers! Very nice to see his name here.

Thomas

[mpni]

Hi Manfred
With SODE you can have the barrier going up or down with a specific command:
Have a look here:
http://royalefrenchnavy.restauravia.fr/RFN-Creations.htm#Sce
Animation must be in the barrier model.
I think it is better than the wind for your beautifull scenery.
Regards
Michel

[Manschy]

Thank you guys.

Michel, thank you very much for this valuable link. But those days, the brits had the barriers simply moved by the current start direction. So in most case, aircraft start and land against the wind, so this barrier was up. I think I will leave it as it is now.:D

[Manschy]

The final big area added - the firedump on approach at RWY09 using a static Canberra and some foam trucks kindly provided by John Young



https://abload.de/img/etur_firedump_1x1kty.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_firedump_1x1kty.jpg)


https://abload.de/img/etur_firedump_2pvj6a.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_firedump_2pvj6a.jpg)

[Manschy]

Hi all.
I have to say, RAF Brüggen is still alive - it is indeed WIP, not RIP :D
But due to the Covid19 history last months and the summer time without many time to use my rig, now I finally want to show the first video of the RAF Brüggen airbase.
It is a bit frustrating to see so many people now are keen on MSFS, but I hope some users will stay with P3D temporarily.

This short video is an overview of the airbase, some more will follow shortly to show some closeups and animations....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LXW1L3CREA&feature=emb_logo

[Manschy]

Deleted because of double posting...

[hschuit]

Great video, looks like most of the work is done? I only fly military aircraft add ons from military air bases so MSFS has little to offer to me, I will stay with P3D and DCS (guess I am not the only one).

Thanks for all the work you have done already,
Henk.

[Manschy]

Thank you, Henk. You will be not the only one, for sure....As long as there is no military inside MSFS I will stay with P3D (and as long as MSFS is buggy that much...)

[Navy Chief]

MSFS2020 is, indeed, quite beautiful. Graphic detail is amazing! But, as mentioned, there are no military aircraft or aircraft carrier ops possible in it yet, so I will be going to P3DV5 for all of that! Looking forward to your bases, Manschy! NC

[gray eagle]

Hi Manfred,
I enjoyed your video on the RAF Bruggen Part 1, when will Part 2 be available?

The airbase looks stunning :encouragement:

[Manschy]

Thanks guys. Just cutting the takes, next vid will show the details of the scenery and animations...

[Randy92]

Absolutely breathtaking Manschy! I currently use a converted version of your FS9 RAF Bruggen in P3D V4, so i am really looking forward to this upcoming release!

Cheers,
Randy

[Brytskiva]

It really look´s fantastic :ernaehrung004:

[Manschy]

Thank you.

Okay - here comes the second video. It shows some animations and details of the base, most spots from beyond the military areas 8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa-w1FINS70&feature=youtu.be

[Manschy]

Thank you.

Okay - here comes the second video. It shows some animations and details of the base, most spots from beyond the military areas 8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa-w1FINS70&feature=youtu.be

[gray eagle]

Wow Manfred, You really put a lot of work into this project. :applause:

This is on Orbx scale, even better. :encouragement:

At the end of the PT2 video you say stay tuned for Pt 3?

I'm impressed with these last two you did. This is amazing stuff.

I wonder what the total file size will be?

Good Job!

[Manschy]

Thank you. I do expect around 800 MB in total.

[wombat666]

Thank you. I do expect around 800 MB in total.
Remarkable work indeed and a fairly light download given the detail and quality.
:triumphant::triumphant::triumphant:

[mpni]

Hi Manfred
Beautifull videos and great work.
I am always on P3Dv5 for the same raisons (no carriers).
Waiting your scenery.
Best regards

[Navy Chief]

Greetings, Manfred:mixed-smiley-010:


Is your Bruggen project still progressing? I think about it, now and then, and look at your screenshots. That scenery is amazing!


Merry Christmas and wishing you a Happy New year for 2021!


Navy Chief

[Manschy]

Hi all,

sorry for delay in any way!

I have to say, that end of September, when MSFS came out, I was shocked! Realizing that at a moment´s notice so many people did seem to loose interest in P3D (especially in v4), my motivation has gone for some weeks.
Furthermore, Covid19 involved some changes regarding my job, which means I am dealing at retail.
But both things seem to be okay meanwhile - on the one hand I will not loose my job :applause: - on the other hand, RAF Brüggen was almost ready, so why stopping this scenery? I only did just loose motivation to make some videos at moment because this is too time consuming currently...

Current progress:
- Seasons are done
- BETA testing ongoing

Some few screenshots will follow soon...

Merry Christmas too and stay healthy everywhere!

[Navy Chief]

Manschy,

So glad you are ok! Also that you have not lost your job:mixed-smiley-010:. It is awesome that you are still working on RAF Bruggen, and that it is so close to completion. I forgot to ask; will it be compatible with P3DV5.1? Oh, I hope so! Thanks again! NC

[Manschy]

I don't know the scenery requirements for a 4.5 version to work in 5.1 also properly. I don't own v5 and maybe someone can tell us the differences.
But because most details are compiled for 4.5 and the scenery will not come with an installer, they should also work in 5.1 as well.

[Navy Chief]

I don't know the scenery requirements for a 4.5 version to work in 5.1 also properly. I don't own v5 and maybe someone can tell us the differences.
But because most details are compiled for 4.5 and the scenery will not come with an installer, they should also work in 5.1 as well.

I am sure hoping they do! The screenshots you've posted are amazingly real, Manschy!

[Manschy]

Okay, some final shots which show impressions of seasonal and final night texturisation...

Winter and Hard Winter finally completely done...

https://abload.de/img/etur_overview_wilzj2u.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_overview_wilzj2u.jpg)

https://abload.de/img/etur_overview_hw00kbv.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_overview_hw00kbv.jpg)

https://abload.de/img/etur_winter_impressiod4krn.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_winter_impressiod4krn.jpg)

https://abload.de/img/etur_winter_impressioh9kuk.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_winter_impressioh9kuk.jpg)

https://abload.de/img/etur_winter_impressio00k5w.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_winter_impressio00k5w.jpg)

[Dimus]

Fantastic work!!! :applause::applause::applause:

[Manschy]

Thank you.

There is one final gadget I did embezzle so far:

A little animation at the detuner area where the Tornados engines were tested those days. The detuner is animated automatically within some time periods but you can enable it by SODE text commands as well.

https://abload.de/img/etur_detuner_6oxjnv.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_detuner_6oxjnv.jpg)

https://abload.de/img/etur_detuner_5bzk8f.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_detuner_5bzk8f.jpg)


https://abload.de/img/etur_detuner_1nbkyt.jpg

(https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_detuner_1nbkyt.jpg)https://abload.de/img/etur_detuner_2lmk9o.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_detuner_2lmk9o.jpg)

[Navy Chief]

That is so awesome, Manschy! I took note of the high power restraint, just aft of the nose landing gear! NC

[kl791]

This just look amazing :jump:

[Manschy]

Thank you.

Today (promised...) the final final final attachments to the scenery, but a "must do" to me: Adding a lot of mounds nearby roads or taxiways to suggest RAF Brüggen is not a flat earth area! This is what I dislike about air bases in FSX or P3D and is the icing on the cake to me at Brüggen...
Like you can see in the first shot, you can't see the aircraft at the flightline from far away because of mounts or vegetation, like in reality....

https://abload.de/img/mounds_su_15tjjp.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=mounds_su_15tjjp.jpg)

https://abload.de/img/etur_mounds_hw_1qpjj4.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=etur_mounds_hw_1qpjj4.jpg)

https://abload.de/img/mounds_su_3hqjoh.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=mounds_su_3hqjoh.jpg)

https://abload.de/img/mounds_hw_3vmjo9.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=mounds_hw_3vmjo9.jpg)

[gray eagle]

Looks very nice however, with all the trees and other vegetation, I wonder what the frame rates are in P3D V4.5?

[Manschy]

Looks very nice however, with all the trees and other vegetation, I wonder what the frame rates are in P3D V4.5?

This depends on your rig. For sure there are lots of objects and animations inside, but especially the trees are no problem. They are done as follows:

In the background, inside the forrest, I use big texture sheets with many trees on it - this doesn't need much preformance. In front of that, I place smaller sheets with less trees and in front of them I use single trees to suggest 3D trees and a big forrest. On the edge of these trees, I place mounts or vegetation lines which completes the illusion of thousands of trees ;-) . Here how to make it in two pics:

This is the shot from the sheets done in Gmax:

https://abload.de/img/trees_gmax_explanatio2ijd0.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=trees_gmax_explanatio2ijd0.jpg)

And this is the same sheet like it looks inside P3D:

https://abload.de/img/trees_gmax_37fkqo.jpg


(https://abload.de/image.php?img=trees_gmax_37fkqo.jpg)So instead of many trees there are only used 6 crossed sheets for this forrest part :very_drunk:

Meanwhile, the final scenery is running fine on my i7 9700k with locked 30 frames in most views, settings most at 75 % using FSrealWX as real weather addon and UT-Live traffic as well.
I am testing Brüggen also on my much older rig which is a i5 2500 and I try to reach 20 frames with moderate settings, most set on 50 %.
Both PCs with only one monitor and 2048 x 2048 texture resolution.

Furthermore, it depends on the additional features you are liking like real weather or AI traffic, ORBX addons like Germany North.

P3D settings like Dynamic Lighting or Dynamic Reflections, shadows etc can drop your performance a lot. But with moderate settings RAF Brüggen will be fun to land, approach or just move around :running:

[Manschy]

Looks very nice however, with all the trees and other vegetation, I wonder what the frame rates are in P3D V4.5?

This depends on your rig. For sure there are lots of objects and animations inside, but especially the trees are no problem. They are done as follows:

In the background, inside the forrest, I use big texture sheets with many trees on it - this doesn't need much preformance. In front of that, I place smaller sheets with less trees and in front of them I use single trees to suggest 3D trees and a big forrest. On the edge of these trees, I place mounts or vegetation lines which completes the illusion of thousands of trees ;-) . Here how to make it in two pics:

This is the shot from the sheets done in Gmax:

https://abload.de/img/trees_gmax_explanatio2ijd0.jpg (https://abload.de/image.php?img=trees_gmax_explanatio2ijd0.jpg)

And this is the same sheet like it looks inside P3D:

https://abload.de/img/trees_gmax_37fkqo.jpg


(https://abload.de/image.php?img=trees_gmax_37fkqo.jpg)So instead of many trees there are only used 6 crossed sheets for this forrest part :very_drunk:

Meanwhile, the final scenery is running fine on my i7 9700k @ 4.9 GHz and a RTX 2070 Super 8 GB with locked 30 frames in most views and using for example high performance aircraft like Just Flight Tornado or MILVIZ F-4E.
Settings most at 75 %, using FSrealWX as real weather addon and UT-Live traffic as well. ORBX Germany North surrounds RAF Brüggen and this is a horrible performance killer.

I am testing Brüggen also on my much older rig which is a i5 2500 @ 3.7 GHz and a GTX 1060 6 GB and I try to reach 20 frames with moderate settings, most set on 50 % with features above.

Both PCs with only one monitor and 2048 x 2048 texture resolution.

Furthermore, it depends on the additional features you are liking like real weather or AI traffic, ORBX addons like Germany North.

P3D settings like Dynamic Lighting or Dynamic Reflections, shadows etc can drop your performance a lot. But with moderate settings RAF Brüggen will be fun to land, approach or just move around :running:

[klnowak]

Should you ever open a design school, I'll be the first student to sign up to learn from the master. This design is simply fantastic.
When I see what comes out from your work, I can only take off my hat in fear.
I am already looking forward to getting my tornado out of the hangar and doing the first traffic laps there.

greetings
Klaus

[Manschy]

Hi Klaus,

thank you very much, but if you take a look around for other experts designing freeware, I am a mediocrity. Let me explain....
This doesn't mean that my work is bad, but I am no "master" in what I do. Maybe I have an unerring eye for details, but all I do is try and error or get lost in special parts of the scenery. I am a slob in designing. In most case I have no strategy how to tackle something or getting things done constructively. That's why I am already 4 years working on one scenery only!
Believe me, no one wants to learn from a person like me :biggrin-new: ....

Therefore, I have to give back your compliment and to all other freeware designer too who are able to get their work ready within much less time and much more accurate. Your sceneries are great as well, or have a look over there in the showroom of FSDeveloper - many many guys are designing in such a quality I never can attain...

But thanks. Yours and all the guys kind words are a big motivation to finally finally finish this scenery!

[Manschy]

Okay, keep working hard to release RAF Brüggen until end of February (yes, this year).
But I noticed an issue regarding the seasonal textures. This is probably because some lua scripts will not be read correctly form different P3Dv4.* versions.

So my strong request please:

I AM LOOKING FOR USERS WHO USE P3Dv4.0 until P3Dv4.4 who want to test if the seasonal ground polygons work correctly!

Even if I think that most P3Dv4.* users already updated to 4.5, I would like to clarify if this lua issue only appears on my old PC rig or if it is caused by these lua files.

PLEASE GIVE ME A SHOUT HERE for the link....

[Navy Chief]

Oh, I would really like to check it out for you, but alas, I made the switch to V5.1 a while ago..... NC

[Manschy]

Thank you, NC.

Okay, to be honest I hope little or no users will post that they still use older versions than P3Dv4.5. That way I can release RAF Brüggen until end of February (this year LOL) without any additional effort or notifications inside the manual....

[mpni]

Hi Manfred
Ready for testing your scenery in P3Dv5HF1.
Best regards
Michel

[Manschy]

RELEASED


http://www.sim-outhouse.com/soh_ftp/uploads/imageuploads/849016144305261921.jpg

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php/123274-ETUR_RAF_BRUGGEN_P3Dv4-5_v1-0

I want to thank you all who were waiting patiently and all who supported me in the last couple of years. I hope you enjoy this freeware and will maybe show some shots of your experiences at this airbase. Have fun :wavey:

[Dimus]

The fact that I don’t have the time to try this today saddens me.☹️
Congratulations on the release! I have followed your efforts from the beginning and I’m looking forward to enjoy this. Screenshots coming up.

[IanHenry]

Thanks you so much for this wonderful scenery Manfred, very much appreciated.

[Navy Chief]

Whoo HOO!!! I am in the process of installing all the files now. THANK you Manschy!!!! NC:encouragement::applause::applause:

[TiAr]

Oh yes, its a wonderful scenery, very nice - all is working well for the first pattern.

Thank you very, very much.:icon37::fat:

Thomas

[Manschy]

Thank you all for response. Thomas, good to hear this feedback, that makes me calming down :applause:

[Navy Chief]

Manschy,

Your scenery is beautiful! The only problem I am experiencing is textural, with the Tornados being all black. I am sure I did something incorrect on installation, but not sure where. Maybe because I am running P3DV5.1, and the MAIW files aren't playing nice.... NC

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[Manschy]

Thank you for response, Pete.

On the one hand, I am very happy that the scenery also seems to work in P3Dv5. On the other hand, I would recommend to maybe ask over there at MAIW for a solution. But when the models appear well except for the textures, there might be a big chance to solve the problem :applause:

[Navy Chief]

Thank you for response, Pete.

On the one hand, I am very happy that the scenery also seems to work in P3Dv5. On the other hand, I would recommend to maybe ask over there at MAIW for a solution. But when the models appear well except for the textures, there might be a big chance to solve the problem :applause:

Thanks Manschy, I will ask them. It would be interesting to know if anyone else on this forum has the same problem, if they are running V5.1.

Your Bruggen was well worth the wait! It is a masterpiece sir! NC:encouragement:

[Manschy]

Pete, Thomas "TiAr" from above has the Tornados running well. Please check if you have the correct models and/or textures added! I will have a look at the link inside the manual if I have a wrong link set maybe.
So, please check if the Tornado package is the correct one for FSX/P3D, okay? The Tornados work...

EDIT: I checked the link inside the manual, the link is correct.

[mooringj]

Hi,

You need to copy the textures from the fsx branch. (and use the models from the p3d branch)
I had those blach airplanes as well. The installation instruction isn't that clear.

Regards,

Jan

[mooringj]

Manschy,

Thank you for this beautyful scenery. I do use it in P3D v5.1

Regards,

Jan

[TiAr]

Threre are some pics of V5.

https://up.picr.de/40649083cq.jpg

https://up.picr.de/40649084xn.jpg

https://up.picr.de/40649085ig.jpg

https://up.picr.de/40649086wa.jpg

https://up.picr.de/40649087tf.jpg

https://up.picr.de/40649088tk.jpg

Thomas

[Navy Chief]

Hi,

You need to copy the textures from the fsx branch. (and use the models from the p3d branch)
I had those black airplanes as well. The installation instruction isn't that clear.

Regards,

Jan

Your tip worked as advertised , except my Gazelle helos are all still black. Pete.

[klnowak]

What a scenery. Whow. The years of development have paid off. A real highlight.

Unfortunately I only found a little time this morning at least once
to make a short visit and do a few traffic laps.
But I will make up for that and expand it extensively in the next few days.

https://up.picr.de/40650575cn.jpg

https://up.picr.de/40650579ky.jpg

greetings
Klaus

[Manschy]

Klaus - your complete SODE files seem to be missed! There are no Hangar doors, no scenery trees, no walls, no QRA gates and for sure no animations. Please have a look into the manual to get the files running correctly. That stage, you have only half of the airbase working! :very_drunk:

[klnowak]

Klaus - your complete SODE files seem to be missed! There are no Hangar doors, no scenery trees, no walls, no QRA gates and for sure no animations. Please have a look into the manual to get the files running correctly. That stage, you have only half of the airbase working! :very_drunk:

That was my mistake. Wrong installation path for sode.
Now everything is like it should be :applause:

Thanks a lot for this very nice pice of work.

greetings
Klaus

[klnowak]

Found the mistake for the gazelle of MAIW in my case.

The aircraft.cfg has following entry :

[fltsim.25]
title=JYAI Aerospatial Gazelle AH1 Bruggen XX371
sim=JYAI_Gazelle_AI_ONLY
model=AH1
prop_anim_ratio=2.10

texture=Bruggen XX371 //... this must show texture=Bruggen_XX371. If you change this missing _ it will work fine. It`s a mistake from last update of MAIW. Texture folder is named wrong. Change all the other entrys in this aircraft cfg on the same way. texture=Bruggen_XX386 / texture=Bruggen_XX435 / texture=Bruggen_XX437

atc_airline=
atc_parking_types=MIL_COMBAT
atc_parking_codes=
ui_manufacturer=Aerospatial
ui_createdby=JYAI
ui_type=Gazelle AH1
ui_variation=XX371
description=For AI use

greetings
Klaus

[Manschy]

Fantastic find, Klaus !!!!

I will correspond this to all other forums because of the same responded issue. Thank you!

[shotgunshack]

waiting patiently for this one because it looks utterly amazing.

I can confirm, it is outstanding. Many thanks Manschy. Also Klaus for getting my Gazelles painted!

Geoff

[expat]

If you change this missing _ it will work fine.

Took me a while to track that down myself!

Having trouble though getting Tornados or other fixed wing AI to appear. Don't see "ETUW" anywhere on my system.

[Navy Chief]

I am doing something wrong, obviously, because I still cannot get the Gazelle textures to show up. I followed Klaus's directions, but no joy. NC:dizzy:

[Navy Chief]

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50993850466_e25630e9cc_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2kG9P9o)2021-3-1_11-54-29-831 (https://flic.kr/p/2kG9P9o) by retnavycpo (https://www.flickr.com/photos/retnavycpo1997/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50993151023_05680904e0_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2kG6ee2)2021-2-27_17-23-26-569 (https://flic.kr/p/2kG6ee2) by retnavycpo (https://www.flickr.com/photos/retnavycpo1997/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50993964877_43e58e41b2_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2kGap9Z)2021-2-27_12-22-59-616 (https://flic.kr/p/2kGap9Z) by retnavycpo (https://www.flickr.com/photos/retnavycpo1997/), on Flickr

[expat]

Having trouble though getting Tornados or other fixed wing AI to appear.

Never mind - all working. LOL! Been doing AI traffic for years and it took me most of today to figure out my "user errors" - I had dialed back the main traffic slider recently when changing my graphics slider settings without realising it.

Killer scenery. Fantastic atmosphere and immersive details like the GSE and 3d people. Horrendus real world weather - thanks Active Sky, LOL. Thanks so much!

https://i.imgur.com/G5GqiX7.jpg

[Manschy]

Hi Pete,

show us your aircraft.cfg here, please. So we can quickly find any mistakes inside.
If your cfg is fine, we can try to solve other possible issues :wavey:

[Navy Chief]

Hi Pete,

show us your aircraft.cfg here, please. So we can quickly find any mistakes inside.
If your cfg is fine, we can try to solve other possible issues :wavey:

[fltsim.25]
title=JYAI Aerospatial Gazelle AH1 Bruggen XX371
sim=JYAI_Gazelle_AI_ONLY
model=AH1
prop_anim_ratio=2.10
texture=Bruggen_ XX371
atc_airline=
atc_parking_types=MIL_COMBAT
atc_parking_codes=
ui_manufacturer=Aerospatial
ui_createdby=JYAI
ui_type=Gazelle AH1
ui_variation=XX371
description=For AI use


[fltsim.26]
title=JYAI Aerospatial Gazelle AH1 Bruggen XX386
sim=JYAI_Gazelle_AI_ONLY
model=AH1
prop_anim_ratio=2.10
texture=Bruggen_ XX386
atc_airline=
atc_parking_types=MIL_COMBAT
atc_parking_codes=
ui_manufacturer=Aerospatial
ui_createdby=JYAI
ui_type=Gazelle AH1
ui_variation=XX386
description=For AI use


[fltsim.27]
title=JYAI Aerospatial Gazelle AH1 Bruggen XX435
sim=JYAI_Gazelle_AI_ONLY
model=AH1
prop_anim_ratio=2.10
texture=Bruggen_ XX435
atc_airline=
atc_parking_types=MIL_COMBAT
atc_parking_codes=
ui_manufacturer=Aerospatial
ui_createdby=JYAI
ui_type=Gazelle AH1
ui_variation=XX435
description=For AI use


[fltsim.28]
title=JYAI Aerospatial Gazelle AH1 Bruggen XX437
sim=JYAI_Gazelle_AI_ONLY
model=AH1
prop_anim_ratio=2.10
texture=Bruggen_ XX437
atc_airline=
atc_parking_types=MIL_COMBAT
atc_parking_codes=
ui_manufacturer=Aerospatial
ui_createdby=JYAI
ui_type=Gazelle AH1
ui_variation=XX437
description=For AI use

[expat]

Spaces after the "_ "??

[klnowak]

Your mistake is very easy..... you must delete the empty space in the texture folder. texture=Bruggen_ XX437. Between Bruggen_ and xx437 you got a empty space. delet it.... everything will work fine.

Your one is : texture=Bruggen_ XX437
must be : texture=Bruggen_XX437

greetings
Klaus

[Navy Chief]

Thanks for your replies. I will report back soon, hopefully. My internet is slower than dial-up service, and technician won't be here for two more days. I am having angry feelings . NC

[Dimus]

Fantastic work!

A USAFE visitor:

https://i.imgur.com/jXNLhjI.jpg

Btw, I made a package including everything (AI models too) in a neat folder outside P3D folder and made an xml file for it. Works great and I have everything for Bruggen together. Only thing that is separate is the SODE stuff.

[expat]

Hang in there NC - you will get it sorted out.

[Navy Chief]

Got it working just fine, thanks! This scenery is just so awesome; WELL worth the wait. So, so much work went into this. Thank you, Manschy, and everyone else who was involved with the completion of this outstanding scenery!!! NC

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50995038047_9d6994a52c_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2kGfUaV)2021-3-1_18-19-21-454 (https://flic.kr/p/2kGfUaV) by retnavycpo (https://www.flickr.com/photos/retnavycpo1997/), on Flickr


https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50994925776_7c92c12266_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2kGfjNd)2021-3-1_18-20-32-248 (https://flic.kr/p/2kGfjNd) by retnavycpo (https://www.flickr.com/photos/retnavycpo1997/), on Flickr


https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50995038022_5eed14d50f_o.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2kGfUau)2021-3-1_18-37-17-458 (https://flic.kr/p/2kGfUau) by retnavycpo (https://www.flickr.com/photos/retnavycpo1997/), on Flickr

[gary20]

Absolutely amazing Manschy, this is just incredible scenery.
I've got in working in P3D v5.1 and all appears fine an working great.

[Manschy]

Thank you all very much for these nice words. That's the wages for every freeware developer, the reward.

@Dimus:
Yes, I can see in your screenshots, half of the scenery is still missing! No hangar doors, no trees, no blastwalls and for sure no animations.

Have a look inside the manual, please. The description inside will show you step by step how to install SODE and all my features for that correctly. If you need any more help afterwards, please give us a shout....

[Dimus]

Thank you all very much for these nice words. That's the wages for every freeware developer, the reward.

@Dimus:
Yes, I can see in your screenshots, half of the scenery is still missing! No hangar doors, no trees, no blastwalls and for sure no animations.

Have a look inside the manual, please. The description inside will show you step by step how to install SODE and all my features for that correctly. If you need any more help afterwards, please give us a shout....

I read the manual carefully. I already had SODE and registered for P3D v4. I copied all files as per the instructions. Anyway, I'll check again as it may be the fact that I have a scripts folder outside P3D main folder. I really like to install stuff outside P3D but in this case it may not be possible due to the scripts. Anyway I'll try again.

[Manschy]

Dimus, lua files in this case should not affect the SODE files, they are independently of each other.
Because there are no red crosses, I assume all objects are installed correctly except for the animations.xml and seasons.xml files. I would do a search for their correct place...

[Dimus]

You were right Manschy! I have forgotten to copy the xml files in the relevant SODE folder. All well now.

I'm also happy that the "out of P3D folder" package I made works.

[Manschy]

Glad to read this! :applause:

[Dimus]

This scenery package deserves a sticky. Perhaps one that includes stuff after release.

[Manschy]

Thank you. When one is about to explore the scenery completely, he will find two small areas which will appreciate his effort :applause::running:

[Emile]

Hello,
Thanks for this GREAT scenery and filght plans

[dhazelgrove]

81847

Good, innit?

Dave

[Manschy]

Stunning - thank you!:applause:

[klnowak]

Just a short visit from German Phantom....

https://up.picr.de/40679141hc.jpg

https://up.picr.de/40679142jk.jpg

https://up.picr.de/40679143xt.jpg

greetings
Klaus

[Navy Chief]

Simworks F-4? NC



Just a short visit from German Phantom....

https://up.picr.de/40679141hc.jpg

https://up.picr.de/40679142jk.jpg

https://up.picr.de/40679143xt.jpg

greetings
Klaus

[klnowak]

Simworks F-4? NC

No... it is the virtavia rework package you will find in Library here. (Virtavia Phantom II Reloaded V1.1 with PBR Texturing in native P3D v 4.4 Format.zip and texture pack : 12 Textures Phantom German Airforce.zip)

greetings
Klaus

[expat]

it is the virtavia rework package you will find in Library here. (Virtavia Phantom II Reloaded V1.1 with PBR Texturing in native P3D v 4.4 Format.zip and texture pack

Yes, I have given up in frustration on one of the payware versions. Like a great old friend that Alphasim model lives on and it still looks terrific!

[delta_lima]

Beautiful project, Manny!!

A very big thanks for your perseverance on this.

dl

[Manschy]

Thank you!

[dhazelgrove]

81851

Here's another F-4F. This is the Milviz offering.

Dave

[Brytskiva]

81856 Very nice done :) :applause:

[Navy Chief]

81851

Here's another F-4F. This is the Milviz offering.

Dave

Dave, I installed the MV ADV Phantom in P3DV5, and it flies fine, except I notice there's no afterburner flame.... Pete

[ZsoltB]

If I fly here, the FPS will decrease What is the correct graphics setting for P3D?
Here is my config:
AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 100-100000025BOX processor
8GB graphics card
2x KINGSTON HyperX Predator 16GB 3200MHz DDR4 memory
Samsung 980 Pro 1TB M.2 SSD

[wombat666]

Question: Which version of P3D? I'm assuming v5 but one shouldn't just 'assume'.
Probably your graphics card is a bit down on power for a start zsolt, and I'd also suggest doubling your RAM would help.
:encouragement:

[dhazelgrove]

Dave, I installed the MV ADV Phantom in P3DV5, and it flies fine, except I notice there's no afterburner flame.... Pete

Regrettably, this is a known issue with such effects. It's one of the reasons I keep both P3Dv4.5 and P3Dv5.1 on this rig.

Dave