Hms invencible r05

[CIMOGT]

This is the first test of the model, pending all light and the control panel gauge, maybe change some textures

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[CIMOGT]

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[StormILM]

Nice! Seen her in person many moons ago as she came to port in our city. Took these on my old 35mm that day. These photos are scanned from printed photos:
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=58872&stc=1http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=58873&stc=1

[CIMOGT]

Nice! Seen her in person many moons ago as she came to port in our city. Took these on my old 35mm that day. These photos are scanned from printed photos:
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=58872&stc=1http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=58873&stc=1

nice pics thanks for sharing

[CIMOGT]

testing some of the animation of the ship

https://youtu.be/Js8z-j-tiO0

[PhantomP]

Great looking ship Walter,nice job.:encouragement::encouragement:

[SkippyBing]

Very nice! Minor observation in the first shot the superstructure looks too tall, or maybe the hull is too far down in the water? Annoyingly I don't think I kept any deck plans from when I was on her.

[fallenphoenix1986]

Saw her regularly on the Clyde whenever she put in to Faslane/Coulport, also got to go aboard twice, looking forward to this one :jump:

[CIMOGT]

Very nice! Minor observation in the first shot the superstructure looks too tall, or maybe the hull is too far down in the water? Annoyingly I don't think I kept any deck plans from when I was on her.

I use this for the line and size of her
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=58888&stc=1

[gp183601]

Very nice! Minor observation in the first shot the superstructure looks too tall, or maybe the hull is too far down in the water? Annoyingly I don't think I kept any deck plans from when I was on her.

Now then matey Skippy is indeed correct - the superstructure on and around the bridge, flyco and admirals bridge just looks a little bit too tall as if it's been stretched slightly...I think the proportions of bridge height against the funnels is correct but the funnels themselves look a bit too tall which is probably affecting your proportions.

I spent nearly a year modelling Invincible, illustrious (and then remodelling) Ark Royal so I know how hard it can be to get the dimensions right...so I commend your work!

:encouragement:

Gaz

[CIMOGT]

Now then matey Skippy is indeed correct - the superstructure on and around the bridge, flyco and admirals bridge just looks a little bit too tall as if it's been stretched slightly...I think the proportions of bridge height against the funnels is correct but the funnels themselves look a bit too tall which is probably affecting your proportions.

I spent nearly a year modelling Invincible, illustrious (and then remodelling) Ark Royal so I know how hard it can be to get the dimensions right...so I commend your work!

:encouragement:

Gaz

thank you, it is difficult without accurate information, many photos from different times, but there are not many detailed diagrams of the changes and added to the little experience in modeling

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=58889&stc=1

[CIMOGT]

Now then matey Skippy is indeed correct - the superstructure on and around the bridge, flyco and admirals bridge just looks a little bit too tall as if it's been stretched slightly...I think the proportions of bridge height against the funnels is correct but the funnels themselves look a bit too tall which is probably affecting your proportions.

I spent nearly a year modelling Invincible, illustrious (and then remodelling) Ark Royal so I know how hard it can be to get the dimensions right...so I commend your work!

:encouragement:

Gaz

I correct the proportions , left is the new one

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=58891&stc=1

[CIMOGT]

Great looking ship Walter,nice job.:encouragement::encouragement:

thanks, still in progress

[kl791]

Nice model😀 The illustrations from Shipbucket unfortunately vary a lot in quality and accuracy. If I have no other option than using a shipbucket drawing I usually make an overlay with a real photo taken at an angel as close as possible to 90 degress to check dimensions. It is not as good as a real GA plan but it does save you from some mayor setbacks when you realize that the illustration was wrongly dimensioned... eg the type 45 I am working on now the illustration was 10 % too wide. Henrik

[SkippyBing]

I correct the proportions , left is the new one

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=58891&stc=1

That looks much more like it! Good work!

[CIMOGT]

Testing of the elevator animation in the HMS INVENCIBLE


https://youtu.be/j6rc2Rx3AxA

[speedy70]

Hi
I must correct you on the name of the ship.She is HMS Invincible.

Invincible means unbeatable.

The Falklands war HMS Invincible and HMS Hermes served with the fleet.

They were affectionately known by the troops that served in that action as the invisible and the herpes.

Cheers Chris

[CIMOGT]

Hi
I must correct you on the name of the ship.She is HMS Invincible.

Invincible means unbeatable.

The Falklands war HMS Invincible and HMS Hermes served with the fleet.

They were affectionately known by the troops that served in that action as the invisible and the herpes.

Cheers Chris
The name is written in Spanish, since I'm doing it for a group that speaks it, and don't make the change

[gp183601]

That looks much more like it! Good work!

Agree with Skippy - Height looks accurate now - looking good!

[fallenphoenix1986]

Hi
They were affectionately known by the troops that served in that action as the invisible and the herpes.


With all I've read on that particular conflict I can't believe I've never heard this before :biggrin-new:

[CIMOGT]

Testing a panel for the lights, elevator and air wing

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=58928&stc=1

[Seahawk72s]

Very good work with the control panel...:applause:

[IanP]

With all I've read on that particular conflict I can't believe I've never heard this before :biggrin-new:

The other one was "Hermesetas: Dissolves in Hot Water" as Hermes (having taken over the Task Force Flag) was withdrawn from the threat of air attack most of the time, leaving Invincible as the forward deployed carrier.

Have you read Sharkey Ward's "Sea Harrier over the Falklands"?

I've only been on Illustrious once, at a Plymouth Navy Day. Seen Invisible from a distance, so her nickname clearly wasn't accurate. :p87: ;)

It'll be really good to have a rendition of the class in the sim again.

Cheers,

Ian P.

[fallenphoenix1986]

Yeah read it a few years back, currently loaning it to my barber. About to start on "Hostile Skies" by David Morgan, have heard it gives a more balanced view of things... Ward kinda goes off the deep end a few times.

[CIMOGT]

added air wing, Harrier GR 9 and SEA KING

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[dhasdell]

Will there be a Falklands fit? I know it was short, but it was important.

[CIMOGT]

Will there be a Falklands fit? I know it was short, but it was important.

I think so, after test this version

[dhasdell]

Thank you. I know someone was working on a Hermes. Did it ever get released?

5 minutes later: oh dear - it must have been. I have just discovered a post from me from December 2013 mentioning it and including my AICarriers file using it! Someone please tell me I am not the only one to suffer such lapses.

[CIMOGT]

This is the model for the 80´s of the ship, i think will be ready this weekend and both will be ready for tests

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=58961&stc=1http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=58962&stc=1

[CIMOGT]

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[Seahawk72s]

Great work, nice spot lighting..!

[CIMOGT]

I need help for the tests, some interested? send me a message


* the only recurring problem that I still can not solve is with the mobile platforms of the elevators in fsx fail in some cases

[Essex]

* the only recurring problem that I still can not solve is with the mobile platforms of the elevators in fsx fail in some cases

If the scale of the elevator animation and platforms are reset to 1.0000, this should be resolved.

[CIMOGT]

models sent to those who wrote me, thanks for the help

[RS]

Hello CIMOGT,

a big "Thank you" for your creations... I l like them...

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=59205&stc=1


Greetings

RS

[Motormouse]

The other one was "Hermesetas: Dissolves in Hot Water" as Hermes (having taken over the Task Force Flag) was withdrawn from the threat of air attack most of the time, leaving Invincible as the forward deployed carrier.

Have you read Sharkey Ward's "Sea Harrier over the Falklands"?

I've only been on Illustrious once, at a Plymouth Navy Day. Seen Invisible from a distance, so her nickname clearly wasn't accurate. :p87: ;)

It'll be really good to have a rendition of the class in the sim again.

Cheers,

Ian P.

Tha late DaveB could have filled you in on a few more surreptitious nicknames... HMS Glamorgan was Glamorous Organ for a while..

Ttfn

Pete

[PhantomP]

Hi CIMOGT is Any chance that you could please send me a PM to dowload,and test your HMS Invincible? this looks to be a great model.Thanks Pete S

[speedy70]

Me too please
Cheers Chris

[RS]

Hello CIMOGT,

in addition to my tests and message here a two screenshots for doing corrections if you like...

1. radar and containers

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=59210&stc=1

2. stern wash

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=59211&stc=1


Greetings

RS

[Ganter]

Tha late DaveB could have filled you in on a few more surreptitious nicknames... HMS Glamorgan was Glamorous Organ for a while..

Ttfn

Pete

He certainly would.
I know a few;
(All HMS)
Agincourt - Gin Palace
Ark Royal - The Ark/ Arse Boil
Brilliant - Not So
Courageous - Outrageous
Cumberland - The Fighting Snorker (sausage)
Hotspur - Tottenham
Iron Duke - The Tin Duck
London - The Smoke
Manchester - The Manky Twat
Queen Elizabeth - Big Lizzie
Warspite - Old Lady
Illustrious - Lusty

[fallenphoenix1986]

On the subject of the Invincible class...

Sea Harrier options:

UKMIL FRS.1 & FA.2
Wilco FRS.1
John Young FRS.1, FA.2 & T.8 - All AI but I assume with some adjustments could be made flyable?

The UKMIL models are really showing their age and the VC's are somewhat lacking, the Wilco offering substitutes an FRS.1 cockpit for a GR.3's and obviously being AI models John Young's wont come with a pit.

Anyone aware of any other options?


Looks good so far Walter :applause:

[RS]

Hi CIMOGT,

I´ve tested the "second" Invincible - no surprises - everything works very well with the exception of the sinking airplanes in the elevator area..
First the animation menu seems not to work - ...because aicarriers loaded under the same name another Invincible stored on my hard disk... :icon_redface:

Many thanks again for your beautiful ships - I am looking forward to the final versions.

My impressions...

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=59448&stc=1

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=59449&stc=1


Greetings RS

[dhazelgrove]

On the subject of the Invincible class...

Sea Harrier options:

UKMIL FRS.1 & FA.2
Wilco FRS.1
John Young FRS.1, FA.2 & T.8 - All AI but I assume with some adjustments could be made flyable?

The UKMIL models are really showing their age and the VC's are somewhat lacking, the Wilco offering substitutes an FRS.1 cockpit for a GR.3's and obviously being AI models John Young's wont come with a pit.

Anyone aware of any other options?


Looks good so far Walter :applause:

There's an FSX update for the AP Design FA2/T8, available at both Simviation and Flightsim, by Bob Chicilo.

John Young's AI Harriers aren't suitable for user operations at all.

Dave

[fallenphoenix1986]

There's an FSX update for the AP Design FA2/T8, available at both Simviation and Flightsim, by Bob Chicilo.

John Young's AI Harriers aren't suitable for user operations at all.

Dave

The AP FA2/T8's and the UKMIL birds are as I understand one and the same. They look ok externally but the VC's are pretty poor. Theres a few RN repaints for the Razbam AV-8B+, will use that as a stand in for the FA.2, short of doing it myself I can't see anew one materialising.

[Ganter]

I flew the Razbam for a while but really, for VTOL it flies like it's a house brick.

I opted for the SSW AV-8B and did a repaint.

https://s20.postimg.org/kf8njh2ct/shar5.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Mind you - it's glitchy as hell and will CTD (memory mis-magement I think) - and it's over £30 quid - the Razbam is a tenner.

LATER;

Just flown both tonight. The Razbam was great - beautiful sounds, great for STOL work, landed it on QE. The SSW 'glitched' after 2 minutes then crashed the sim after 4 (no change there then! - rolls eyes)

I think the Razbam is a case of "better the devil you know" and have a standing chance of completing the Sortie as suppose to the obstreperous SSW Harrier - which I wouldn't trust to light my pre-flight cigarette from a nozzle without crashing the sim.

[fallenphoenix1986]

Yeah, I picked up the AV-8B and GR.7/9 during a Christmas sale a couple of years back for £5 each... bit of a bargain. Can't say I've had any issues with them either. Having already picked up both Razbam offerings I can't really justify the SSW model.

Tried to apply Dino's T-45 pit to the UKMIL FA.2 a few months back but couldn't get it to work, assuming its not a full native conversion. Guess I'll have to live with Razbam's Shar "FA.3"...

[Ganter]

If the scale of the elevator animation and platforms are reset to 1.0000, this should be resolved.

Tried this MCX - doesn't work unfortunately.
Can anyone help with this - very frustrating having to avoid the deck elevators or get a soaking!!

[Essex]

Tried this MCX - doesn't work unfortunately.
Can anyone help with this - very frustrating having to avoid the deck elevators or get a soaking!!

It is sometimes possible to resolve this using a recent version of ModelConverterX, usually with difficulty.

If CIMOGT wishes, I'm happy to have a quick go at sorting this. Please send me the model.

[Ganter]

It is sometimes possible to resolve this using a recent version of ModelConverterX, usually with difficulty.

If CIMOGT wishes, I'm happy to have a quick go at sorting this. Please send me the model.

That would be great.

Yes, of course - it's CIMOGT's shout.

[Ganter]

It is sometimes possible to resolve this using a recent version of ModelConverterX, usually with difficulty.

If CIMOGT wishes, I'm happy to have a quick go at sorting this. Please send me the model.

Spoken to CIMOGT - check your PM's mate.