New Carriers..? [Archive]

PhantomTweak

July 21st, 2017, 22:29

The HMS Queen Elizabeth has been released for FSX. You might look here: http://www.mspgsimulations.com/hms-queen-elizabeth.html
Thought you might like to take a look. :encouragement:

The Ford for FSX can be found here: http://www.pcaviator.com/store/product.php?productid=18372

They're both payware, but there they are. Enjoy! :very_drunk:
Pat☺

DaveB

July 21st, 2017, 23:24

I'm sure there's a QE and PoW in the library here. Rudimentary by some standards but no less so than the MSPG one in the link;)

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?catid=114&sort=d&page=5&pp=20

There's a pilotable version of QE by Erwin Welker on the same page. PoW is the page before;)

ATB
DaveB:)

SkippyBing

July 22nd, 2017, 01:11

Rudimentary by some standards but no less so than the MSPG one in the link

By the pictures I'd say in the one in the library are slightly better than the MSPG one. Wonders idly if he knows someone with access to decent plans for the QE Class...

DaveB

July 22nd, 2017, 01:19

The one in the library converted by Lazarus isn't bad and if the scale is correct.. it's easy to see just how big the QE is when compared to say the Invincible class. There's a lot more to aim at!!:biggrin-new: Not tried the pilotable version or PoW though I have PoW.

ATB
DaveB:)

iflyfsx214

July 22nd, 2017, 02:23

Seahawk72s

July 22nd, 2017, 03:55

Might be worth mentioning that there is someone on Facebook that does modifications to different fsx/p3d aircrafts and ships, there's even a ford class available just search for "Aeronaves Militares Prepard3d/FSX" on Facebook

An impressive number of projects.

https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=aeronaves%20militares%20prepard3d%2Ffsx

A nice looking Kitty Hawk in the works..

Seahawk72s

July 22nd, 2017, 03:57

The Bear Studios carrier is available..a little long in the tooth.

Navy Chief

July 22nd, 2017, 04:58

An impressive number of projects.

https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=aeronaves%20militares%20prepard3d%2Ffsx (https://www.facebook.com/militarymodelsp3d/photos/a.1682050172092803.1)

A nice looking Kitty Hawk in the works..

That's the Nimitz, I believe? NC

fallenphoenix1986

July 22nd, 2017, 05:07

Kind of surprised I wasn't already aware of the Facebook guy, seems to be very prolific but this is the first I've heard of him. Some pretty interesting projects as well, havn't tried installing anything yet though it looks from scanning over some of the file names that it may be P3D only?

Dave, Re. the QE and PoW in the library here, I've had them installed for a while and they do serve their purpose, particularly fond of the CTOL PoW . Would be nice to have more detailed/updated models though.

Seahawk72s

July 22nd, 2017, 05:29

That's the Nimitz, I believe? NC

Correct you are sir...
I saw a thread about the Kitty Hawk and assumed...have to learn how to read...:banghead:

Here is a correct pic..
With a correct link: https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=aeronaves%20militares%20prepard3d%2Ffsx

iflyfsx214

July 22nd, 2017, 05:55

Here the link to all his projects, they also get updated regularly
https://m.facebook.com/search/top/?q=aeronaves+militares+prepard3d%2Ffsx#!/story.php?story_fbid=1683778221919998&id=1681736185457535

Bookman1960

July 22nd, 2017, 06:06

What package did that beauty come with?

The Bear Studios carrier is available..a little long in the tooth.

Seahawk72s

July 22nd, 2017, 06:23

Here the link to all his projects, they also get updated regularly
https://m.facebook.com/search/top/?q=aeronaves+militares+prepard3d%2Ffsx#!/story.php?story_fbid=1683778221919998&id=1681736185457535

By chance do you know if downloads are available..?
On Facebook I'm not seeing if the Kitty Hawk is offered...?

Seahawk72s

July 22nd, 2017, 06:24

What package did that beauty come with?

From : https://www.justflight.com/product/bear-studios-j15-naval-flanker

Seahawk72s

July 22nd, 2017, 06:26

Would be nice to have more detailed/updated models though.

Agreed, the Kitty Hawk definitely has my interest...

fallenphoenix1986

July 22nd, 2017, 06:27

By chance do you know if downloads are available..?
On Facebook I'm not seeing if the Kitty Hawk is offered...?

Pretty sure some of them are still WIP, can't see the "25 de Mayo" either.

Going to install the SUE mod first then the QE, been on the look out for new version of both. Just hope existing repaints of the SUE can be made to work with his tweaks, will go great with the 25 de Mayo and the Foch/Clemenceau/CDG.

jeansy

July 22nd, 2017, 06:31

http://hazegraystudios.com/

Seahawk72s

July 22nd, 2017, 06:37

Pretty sure some of them are still WIP, can't see the "25 de Mayo" either.

Going to install the SUE mod first then the QE, been on the look out for new version of both. Just hope existing repaints of the SUE can be made to work with his tweaks, will go great with the 25 de Mayo and the Foch/Clemenceau/CDG.

Would love to know where download links are...

USS Carl Vinson (CVN-70)
Repaint and modification from the Nimitz carrier By JAVIER FERNANDEZ, adding command operated elevator and some animated deck crew

Ripcord

July 22nd, 2017, 06:38

Are any new carriers being built for FSX\P3D...?
Anyone taking on the new Ford class or British ships..?

www.hazegraystudios.com (http://www.hazegraystudios.com)

It is almost there now -- details to follow, but it is the current representation of the US Navy fleet, as AI traffic. Damn near all of it.

Probably not what you are looking for, but it is a live project.

Jeansy, thanks for the plug.

EDIT: generally more updates to be found on the FB page and certain far more photos:
https://www.facebook.com/hazegrayandunderway/

Essex

July 22nd, 2017, 08:29

Would love to know where download links are...

https://www.facebook.com/militarymodelsp3d/posts/1683778221919998

Seahawk72s

July 22nd, 2017, 08:53

https://www.facebook.com/militarymodelsp3d/posts/1683778221919998

Thank you.!

fallenphoenix1986

July 22nd, 2017, 09:37

So I have the Etendard installed and it works great - nice facelift for what was in its day an excellent model.

For the life of me I cannot get the Queen Elisabeth to load via AI carriers. Even though its set up as entry number 24 it keep jumping to entry 2 in the AI carriers ingame menu, it also refuses to draw the model - no idea why.

Edit:

Never mind - Got her working now. Though it appears the functional elevators may be P3D only, when I taxi over them in FSX I just fall through (I have remembered to install the gauge to the aircraft in question)

gray eagle

July 22nd, 2017, 10:14

https://www.facebook.com/militarymodelsp3d/posts/1683778221919998

I tried the USS Reagan from this list in P3D V3.4 and the carrier was behaving rather strange, as I was approaching the carrier, it would appear at the same elevation I was flying at (approx 1,000 Ft) then descend to ground level then, zoom up like a flying saucer into the sky and disappears. Strange. I removed it. :dizzy:

DaveB

July 22nd, 2017, 10:17

A 'no draw' is usually down to an incorrect entry in either the cvn_id.cfg or the aicarriers.cfg.. whichever one you have it listed in. No idea why it's jumping pages though??

Here she is in my cvn_id.cfg

[formation.78]
title=QE Group
unit.0=CVF_QE_X, 0, 0
unit.1=AI_F99_COrnwall, 400, 0

Note.. the upper_case O in Cornwall is taken from the sim.cfg. I'll get around to changing it one day!!

ATB
DaveB:)

gray eagle

July 22nd, 2017, 10:49

If a picture is worth a thousand words then, here is a couple thousand.

I paused the sim (P3D V3.4) and snapped pic #1 then released it and when I did, the carrier climbed higher (Pic #2).

I used the directions in the readme so don't know why the flying aircraft carrier bit. It looks like a UFO had the carrier in a tractor beam like star trek.

https://s14.postimg.org/e1u1kfa81/Capture.jpg

https://s11.postimg.org/nni2ewhab/Capture1.jpg

Randy92

July 22nd, 2017, 11:00

If a picture is worth a thousand words then, here is a couple thousand.

I paused the sim (P3D V3.4) and snapped pic #1 then released it and when I did, the carrier climbed higher (Pic #2).

I used the directions in the readme so don't know why the flying aircraft carrier bit. It looks like a UFO had the carrier in a tractor beam like star trek.

I am having the exact same problem with all of their ships. They bounce up to like a 1000 feet, then drop back to the surface and when they hit the surface they are being launched into space

DaveB

July 22nd, 2017, 11:08

I'll take a look at the Reagan now but it will be in FSXA.. not P3D.

EDIT: Downloaded and installed Ronnie Reagan. Opens fine in AIC and the RH aft lift goes up and down nicely with the shift+E (door open) command. However.. I can't sit on the lift without going through it. Fortunately, I was in the Cera UH-60 so didn't get wet. Tried a number of times but the lift isn't 'hard deck' for me. Can't get my head around why yet???

ATB
DaveB:)

Randy92

July 22nd, 2017, 12:00

@ Gray Eagle

I seem to have found a fix. Use Modelconverter X to convert the MDL to a P3D V2.mdl and the bouncing will stop, at least it did in my sim.

gray eagle

July 22nd, 2017, 12:21

@ Gray Eagle

I seem to have found a fix. Use Modelconverter X to convert the MDL to a P3D V2.mdl and the bouncing will stop, at least it did in my sim.

Thanks for the info, I have V1.3 but not very familiar with it. How or what do I do to convert it.

Is V1.4 required to convert to a P3D mdl or will V1.3 do it?

Randy92

July 22nd, 2017, 12:50

Thanks for the info, I have V1.3 but not very familiar with it. How or what do I do to convert it.

Is V1.4 required to convert to a P3D mdl or will V1.3 do it?

I don't remember if V1.3 also supports converting to P3D V2.mdl, but you will find out if you follow the following steps=

1. When you have opened Modelconverter X (MCX), click on the 'import' button (upper-left). Scroll to your Simobjects/boats folder, look for the Reagan and open de .MDL file in the model folder.

2. Allow MCX to fully load the model. When its fully loaded, click on the 'Export object' button, located next to 'import' button. A new screen opens, on the buttom of the screen there is the 'save as' drop down menu, op the drop down menu and select 'P3D v2 MDL object' (If that option is not available, then you should go get MCX V1.4)

3. When saving the .MDL, you will have to overwrite the old one you opened in step 1 (making a back up is always recommended). The converting itself may take a while.

If all the steps are done correctly, your Reagan should work fine in P3D.

Let me know if you encounter any problems

Regards,

Randy

gray eagle

July 22nd, 2017, 12:58

Thanks, While you were writing this, I "Discovered" how to do this, got lucky in my attempts to make this work. I now have the latest release of this converter which includes P3D V4 (Don't have that one....yet)
But sure enough... your suggestion was the fix. :encouragement:

Thanks Randy :adoration:

"Butch"

Edit: I did most of your steps and it made a P3D V3 mdl file which I had to rename to match the original mdl file name - that was how I did it. Thanks for the help. Now on to fix those other carriers that
want to fly in P3d V3.4 :biggrin-new:

https://s3.postimg.org/4dmr4i0f7/Capture.jpg

gray eagle

July 22nd, 2017, 13:18

Randy,

Were you able to get the elevator to lower? Not sure if it will lower in a helo nor how to do that.

DaveB

July 22nd, 2017, 13:27

fallenphoenix1986

July 22nd, 2017, 13:28

Randy,

Were you able to get the elevator to lower? Not sure if it will lower in a helo nor how to do that.

Theres a guage that ships with each carrier he's done, you need to add it to the panel of whatever your planing on flying. Once in place its supposed to be triggered by taxiing over the lift and opening/closing the primary exit.

Pretty sure this feature is P3D only now that me and Dave have both reported the same results with different carriers.

DaveB

July 22nd, 2017, 13:28

Ah.. that would explain it;)

ATB
DaveB:)

gray eagle

July 22nd, 2017, 13:35

The lift lowers from a helo in FSX Butch but it's not solid for me. TBH.. the lifts on Kitty Hawk (which comes with the payware Phantom) aren't solid for me either although I know they are for some. Why.. who the hell knows:dizzy:
ATB
DaveB:)

Hi Ya Dave,

I think the author had make the back elevator function but not sure which flight sim he/she designed this for. Had to convert the mdl to P3D V3 so the carrier would stop flying.
Now perhaps the cab file he/she made was meant for another sim.

following is from the readme:
copy the effects directory to the directory with the same name inside the sim (if you do not do this, you do not see the steam cat and other effects)
-to add to ai carrier copy the file cvn_76.cfg in C:\Program Files (x86)\AICarriers\conf.d

to use the back elevator in the carrier, copy the content of the directory gaugeXaircrafts to the panel directory of the selected aircraft
add the follow lines to the aircraft panel.cfg int the firts part of vcockpit

[Vcockpit01]

gaugexx=elevador2!elevador.xml, 0,0,0 <<<<<< It goes in the panel.cfg of the aircraft you want to fly to the Reagan

DaveB

July 22nd, 2017, 13:40

Yes mate.. done all that and the rear lift does go up and down in FSXA when you open the door (shift+e). Unfortunately, I get half way on the lift and sink straight through. No big deal really. I'd never tried the lifts on any carrier until I got the Kitty Hawk which comes with a module to make this happen. As with Ronald Reagan.. the lifts go up and down but I sink through them. Can't recall having read this is a P3D function only but it would certainly explain it.

ATB
DaveB:)

gray eagle

July 22nd, 2017, 13:47

Theres a guage that ships with each carrier he's done, you need to add it to the panel of whatever your planing on flying. Once in place its supposed to be triggered by taxiing over the lift and opening/closing the primary exit.

Pretty sure this feature is P3D only now that me and Dave have both reported the same results with different carriers.

Didn't see a gauge file packed with the Reagan he made. Maybe there is a universal gauge file in one of the other carriers he made that would work...

DaveB

July 22nd, 2017, 13:55

gray eagle

July 22nd, 2017, 14:08

It's there mate.

Open the folder and you should see 4 things.. Ronald Reagan (the model), cvn_76.cfg (the AIC entry), elevador2.cab (the lift gauge) and a readme.txt file. Make the entries in your aircraft as per the instructions and drop elevador2.cab into your main gauges folder. This for FSXA.. not sure if P3Dv'XX' works the same but I'd imagine so.
ATB
DaveB:)

Yeah, and I didn't RTFQ the readme carefully either. I placed the cab file in the panel of the helo or aircraft I wanted to use with the Reagan and viola! It workiee...

On the readme of another carrier that he did, his readme was more lucid as to where to place that cab file ergo....results :biggrin-new: :encouragement:

https://s14.postimg.org/7rnkefc2p/Capture.jpg

DaveB

July 22nd, 2017, 14:32

Glad you got it working Butch. I see the lift is nice and solid for you:encouragement:

ATB
DaveB:)

dhasdell

July 22nd, 2017, 22:05

I've loaded and installed Oriskany, and it works in FSX-SE with AIC, but as soon as I taxi onto the lift I drop straight through it

spatialpro

July 23rd, 2017, 06:07

Wonders idly if he knows someone with access to decent plans for the QE Class...

That really is the clincher!

I don't have plans, but I have a cunning plan to acquire multiple measurements of the real deal...

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/a2/d9/f0/a2d9f095b6b3e907f08bc11b7f5334dc.jpg

IF I were able to pull off my cunning plan would you be interested in a collaboration Phil???

dhasdell

July 23rd, 2017, 06:48

I've installed the Reagan now, but get the same problem with the lift. It works, but my a/c falls through it, though it comes to rest at hangar level and can be rolled inside. To get back up to the deck I have to use the "Go To" function on the RFN gauge, which isn't ideal!

To use the RFN gauge I've edited the RFN_Carrier XML using the Nimitz details and added the lines:

<Carrier Name="USS Ronald Reagan"
Sim_Name="CVN76"
CarrierType="1"
Frequency="110.85"
Language="US"
RunwayAngle="8.496"
GS_Angle="3.9"
ILS_Xcoord="-9.607"
ILS_Ycoord="20.015"
ILS_Zcoord="-50.000"
TCN_Xcoord="31.40"
TCN_Ycoord="62.50"
TCN_Zcoord="-68.25"
Sim_Name_Helo="SH-60_guard"
Helo_Bearing="240"
Helo_Distance="120"/>

This gives a gauge frequency of 44 Y. I hope this is useful.

David

Essex

July 23rd, 2017, 07:03

The one in the library converted by Lazarus isn't bad and if the scale is correct.. it's easy to see just how big the QE is when compared to say the Invincible class.

Déjà vu

Also in order to make the QE and PoW models interchangeable (STOBAR PoW), resize QE to 0.733 and move it back 31.2, you will need to redo the ski jump fix and transpose the filenames CVF_Main1.bmp and CVF_Main.bmp.

You can then copy the attached objects (Cats optional) over, they should line up properly.

Thanks to Mark Walsh & Lazarus

Assuming the X-plane HMS Prince of Wales is the correct size, the resizing needs to be .78357, not too different from before. I deleted the F-35s etc first, adding them back is going to be problematic!

I'll look into how to fix the lift.

gray eagle

July 23rd, 2017, 07:20

Thanks Randy92

https://s17.postimg.org/mk6w2s5dr/Capture.jpg

gray eagle

July 23rd, 2017, 07:22

tips

July 23rd, 2017, 08:13

Hello,
Some movie I do:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUDO_dBXts0

tips

July 23rd, 2017, 08:14

And

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYn9P2hzEV8

fallenphoenix1986

July 26th, 2017, 14:52

A minor update re the lifts, I can now taxi onto the QE's lift without falling through it though cannot get it to function. Whats really odd is that I haven't actually edited anything to achieve this. I have also hovered into the hangar but when attempting to land on the hangar deck I fall through.

DaveB

July 26th, 2017, 15:07

That IS odd mate. TBH.. I've given up on the lifts though I can understand your desire to get 'em working as they should.

ATB
DaveB:)

Essex

July 26th, 2017, 15:58

The whole model needs to be reassembled from scratch at the right scale, with no internal scaling in the MDL (makes platforms just work).
Ironically the hangar it nicely done and about the right height, I think. If you look at the lift openings they are much too big for the height of the hangar.

klnowak

July 30th, 2017, 08:46

Did a little freshup for the CVN-76 USS Ronald Reagan in FSX. Like this i can use it in FSX

http://www.caribican.de/Brasilien/F14ayee1k.jpg

http://www.caribican.de/Brasilien/F14ayee1l.jpg

http://www.caribican.de/Brasilien/F14ayee1m.jpg

http://www.caribican.de/Brasilien/F14ayee1p.jpg

Merge the models with ModelConverterX and it works fine for me.

Greetings
Klaus

DaveB

July 30th, 2017, 09:15

UNREP works fine with the Reagan anyway Klaus. The one thing it has are too many aircraft ranged on the rear. I presume that was your tidy up?

EDIT: No.. looking closer, it looks like a different model to the one I have?

ATB
DaveB:)

klnowak

July 30th, 2017, 09:49

Hi Dave,

got my FSX one from here : https://flyawaysimulation.com/downloads/files/3015/fsx-cvn-76-uss-ronald-reagan/ . It is a empty version and i place some planes and crew on Deck. I don`t know another version that had the modificated bridge from the cvn76 and cvn-77. These last two build carriers of the Nimitz Class are heavily modifided. They look different from "old" Nimitz Class.

But that was my first try.... will get other planes on Deck... F-14 or F-18...

Which place is your modell from ?

Greetings
Klaus

DaveB

July 30th, 2017, 10:02

Rgr that matey:encouragement:

The version I have is from the Facebook page that was linked here. The page as since been pulled I'm afraid. I've no idea of the models origin but I'm guessing it started life as Javiers Nimitz/Eisenhower. Didn't know of the one on Flyaway.

EDIT: Looked at the one from the Facebook page in MCX and it is indeed Javiers Nimitz (config 2):banghead: The one from Flyaway is the default 'ACC' carrier. No bad thing;)

ATB
DaveB:)

klnowak

July 30th, 2017, 10:58

I download all the carriers from this Facebookside some days ago.... but most of them take my FSX down... just dont know why.

Mostly i`m looking fore a good CV-78 or CV-79 (Gerald Ford..., Kennedy ) but the one of this facebookside allso shut my fsx down. I wrote to the owner of this side and some hours later he market it as P3D only....

Yust know the side is down....

Greetings
Klaus

DaveB

July 30th, 2017, 11:28

Hello mate,

Some of the models were supposed to be for P3D (the Reagan was one) but I think it was compiled using the P3Dv1 SDK as it works fine in FSXA. Disappointing to know that it's really Nimitz and the bridge is wrong!!! I've just repainted one of the ACC carriers to 77 George Bush (which is in the UK at the moment) but of course, it has clear decks and is a little boring.

If you are able to share your more correct Reagan with deck additions, I'll be up for a copy. Understand if it's for your own use though;)

The page was pulled by a payware company. Say no more!!
ATB
DaveB:)

fallenphoenix1986

July 30th, 2017, 12:22

Hoping that Facebook guy pops up somewhere else, had some really interesting mods and a few more that seemed to still be WIP.

Craig

gp183601

July 31st, 2017, 00:57

I'm curious to see if the site pops up myself. He'd applied some interesting mods to my early carrier work and I'm all for that (it would've been nice to have been asked - I could've helped him out but sometimes that's the nature of this hobby and I'm okay with that if it enhances the sim for others)

My only concern when I looked at some of the models was that some of the add ons mods looked like they'd been reverse engineered from other authors carriers and applied to the modded carrier, and certainly from a few payware companies and that may explain (I have no evidence of this) why the site was pulled. The Ford class and kitty hawk looked very familiar to two payware carriers that I already have- at least at a cursory glance and in terms of textures. The C-2 also looked quite similar to a payware one I have from a well known (and occasionally berated) company starting with 'A'

This is all just conjecture from me so with luck the site will appear again soon.....he's given me some food for thought for Essex and Midway enhancements.

Just read Dave's post - that may explain it!

Cheers
Gaz

fallenphoenix1986

July 31st, 2017, 12:15

Just read Dave's post - that may explain it!

Yeah, missed that part myself. I initially had suspicions about his F-16 though somewhere on his comments sections it pointed to the original, turned out not to be the IRIS model as I had initially suspected might be the case. Guess I gave him te benefit of the doubt after that.

Daube

August 1st, 2017, 00:49

From : https://www.justflight.com/product/bear-studios-j15-naval-flanker

A great package. I bought it some time ago. It's a nice change from the regular carriers with catapults.
On that one, you can simulate the real thing by using the FSX Acceleration commands to attach the plane to the catapult, set your throttle to full AB, and then detach from the catapult instead of triggering it.
This simulates the wheel blocks like on the real carrier.

http://sapdaube.free.fr/p3d/daube_image0146.jpg

fallenphoenix1986

August 1st, 2017, 09:21

Stumbled across a group that had a WIP "25 de Mayo", however most pics are from 2013 and I can't see any evidence of it having been released:

https://www.facebook.com/pg/Simarg-Simulaci%C3%B3n-Argentina-171152336341699/photos/?tab=album&album_id=219789694811296

klnowak

August 2nd, 2017, 07:27

Hello mate,

If you are able to share your more correct Reagan with deck additions, I'll be up for a copy. Understand if it's for your own use though;)

ATB
DaveB:)

Hi Dave (and others who asked for a share....)
would be happy to share my updated carriers with you...but.... i also use models from my payware carriers Kitty Hawk, and Enterprise so far. For my own use thats ok... but cant share those one. Yust now i do a new work with other models. I think that will be ready in some days and i hope i get permission from the orignial modeldesiners to share this on.

By the way.... the Abacus Flight Deck 5 package has a good looking USS_GERALD_FORD inside. Just got my original for a very smal price in Amazon. Will post some pictures later. This seams to be a nice on for FSX....(and think that the one from this Facebookside was a updated version of this one from Abacus payware)

Greetings
Klaus

DaveB

August 2nd, 2017, 08:06

Rgr that Klaus. Understood and thank you:encouragement:

ATB
DaveB:)

Seahawk72s

August 2nd, 2017, 10:50

A great package. I bought it some time ago. It's a nice change from the regular carriers with catapults.
On that one, you can simulate the real thing by using the FSX Acceleration commands to attach the plane to the catapult, set your throttle to full AB, and then detach from the catapult instead of triggering it.
This simulates the wheel blocks like on the real carrier.

http://sapdaube.free.fr/p3d/daube_image0146.jpg

Bear did a very nice job on animating the wheel blocks and blast shield.
The detail on his aircraft is superb.
Sad, I really hope to some day see his SU-34. I imagine he has all these aircraft we just haven't seen.

Daube

August 2nd, 2017, 12:34

A Su-34 would be so cool !
However, I would love the get the Su-27/30 to work as they should first.
In P3Dv3.3.5, I'm still unable to perform a Cobra with that plane, despite deactivating the limiter in the cockpit.
And of course, the thrust vectoring doesn't work on the Su-30...

Seahawk72s

August 3rd, 2017, 10:00

From : https://www.justflight.com/product/bear-studios-j15-naval-flanker

I thought to try a little cleanup on the "Liaoning". Using existing textures the rust went away, then based on current photos
the deck layout was changed. I know she is a darker shade of gray then the real ship but wanted to say thanks to Bear.
Shared texture mapping prevents adding all the small stuff to give it realism, still definitely a fun carrier.

klnowak

August 3rd, 2017, 23:17

Carrier CVN-78 USS GERALD FORD from Abacus Flight Deck 5 package in FSX.

http://www.caribican.de/Brasilien/F14ayee1q.jpg

http://www.caribican.de/Brasilien/F14ayee1s.jpg

Landing F18 is part of the model. It lands... stopps and moved on to catapult. Then launches and turns around the carrier for next land. Nice eyecatcher.

Nice model and worth to have a look for. Will update this one for use with some other planes so that it will have more "life" on deck.

First update. A little more life on deck and little other modification.

http://www.caribican.de/Brasilien/F14ayee1t.jpg

Greetings
Klaus

Seahawk72s

August 4th, 2017, 04:47

Seahawk72s

August 5th, 2017, 05:34

who's surprised?

Bear Studio use the same model as the lockOn, And all paints from J11 work with J15
So I adapted Admiral Kuznetsov repaint from http://rf13a.blogspot.com.br/ (http://rf13a.blogspot.com.br/)

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2013/03/12/qJNjU.jpg

DaveB

August 5th, 2017, 06:21

Hmm.. that looks nice. Wonder if the red fire engine has Russian logos rather than Chinese?

ATB
DaveB:)

Seahawk72s

August 5th, 2017, 07:53

Hmm.. that looks nice. Wonder if the red fire engine has Russian logos rather than Chinese?

ATB
DaveB:)

No logos at all. Night lighting looks Ok.
Added the correct hull number and started cleaning up the island.

DaveB

August 5th, 2017, 07:55

:encouragement:

ATB
DaveB:)

Seahawk72s

August 5th, 2017, 08:10

Wondering if there are any high end Russian ships available..?
There are a number of models out there but it would be nice to match Kuznetsov.

DaveB

August 5th, 2017, 08:26

Nothing of the same detail I'm aware of. I have the ones in your shot and a few more besides but they're all much of a muchness. Can't remember any of them leaving me with a 'WOW' factor. Good for making up the numbers though;)
ATB
DaveB:)

Seahawk72s

August 5th, 2017, 10:04

fallenphoenix1986

August 5th, 2017, 10:32

I use to dream about this one...
http://mark-harper.co.uk/Russian%20Ships.htm

Yeah, I used to drool over the Eagle and Sea Venom combo. Probably safe to say by now that they aren't coming.

Naismith

August 5th, 2017, 11:39

Has anyone any experience of http://www.abacuspub.com/carrier-strike-force-download
I know all the stuff about Abacus, I am wondering about the 3 carriers within.

kl791

August 5th, 2017, 14:02

Wondering if there are any high end Russian ships available..?
There are a number of models out there but it would be nice to match Kuznetsov.

I will most likely start with the Russian Navy relatively soon - but it won't be available before sometime in winter.

Seahawk72s

August 5th, 2017, 14:39

I will most likely start with the Russian Navy relatively soon - but it won't be available before sometime in winter.

That would be a holiday gift well received...!!:applause:

Krair

August 5th, 2017, 15:31

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2013/03/12/qJNjU.jpg

Where can i download this paint? i tried http://rf13a.blogspot.com.br/ however i never got it to work in FSX

fallenphoenix1986

August 5th, 2017, 16:30

Has anyone any experience of http://www.abacuspub.com/carrier-strike-force-download
I know all the stuff about Abacus, I am wondering about the 3 carriers within.

I don't have this package however there are far better freeware alternatives available for all 3.

The I class and LPH/D are both available in the SOH library, then theres the RFN CdG.

Seahawk72s

August 5th, 2017, 17:26

Where can i download this paint? i tried http://rf13a.blogspot.com.br/ however i never got it to work in FSX

Try here: https://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?CatID=fsxacrp&DLID=197376

klnowak

August 6th, 2017, 01:38

CVN-78 from Abacus...... little mordifications to the bridge, planes and crew on deck. Next will have a look to the paintings. Its not the quality of Nimitz Carrier, but its useable.

http://www.caribican.de/Brasilien/F14ayee1x.jpg

Greetings
Klaus

klnowak

August 6th, 2017, 01:44

I will most likely start with the Russian Navy relatively soon - but it won't be available before sometime in winter.

Very nice to hear. That would be a very nice addion to ship ai traffic
Hope you will do the new US-Carrier CVN-78 USS GERALD FORD in the future. A fantastic ship and the one from Abacus i use till now (you can see the picture in here) is not the very best. That would be a great wish of mine.

:applause:

Greetings
Klaus

kl791

August 6th, 2017, 02:49

Very nice to here. That would be a very nice addion to ship ai traffic
Hope you will do the new US-Carrier CVN-78 USS GERALD FORD in the future. A fantastic ship and the one from Abacus i use till now (you can see the picture in here) is not the very best. That would be a great wish of mine.

:applause:

Greetings
Klaus

The thought has crossed my mind... Looking at your screenshot with the Abacus I can see quite a few obvious discrepancies with the real thing e.g. the tower island is nowhere close to the real. However it is a long project, so no promises at this point.

http://www.thefordclass.com/cvn78/index.html

Krair

August 6th, 2017, 03:14

Try here: https://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?CatID=fsxacrp&DLID=197376

Different paint but still a nice kuznetsov, thanks.
Going to enjoy flying of this one.

klnowak

August 6th, 2017, 03:46

The thought has crossed my mind... Looking at your screenshot with the Abacus I can see quite a few obvious discrepancies with the real thing e.g. the tower island is nowhere close to the real. However it is a long project, so no promises at this point.

http://www.thefordclass.com/cvn78/index.html

Absolutly right. Hope you love this one as much as i do. It`s a very interesting ship and i think it is very much needed in AI traffic for FSX. If you will love it also you just can`t do anything else as start with this one first :jump::biggrin-new:

The other thing is a Nimitz Class Carrier CVN-76 USS Ronald Reagan with its light different tower bridge.

So.... you will have many things to do.... i`m waiting for :applause:

Greetings
Klaus

Seahawk72s

August 6th, 2017, 05:18

Different paint but still a nice kuznetsov, thanks.
Going to enjoy flying of this one.

Starting to make a few changes..
Have to blend the new numbers better..
No number on island...

fallenphoenix1986

August 6th, 2017, 12:08

Just installed the Illustrious model from facebook, turns out the functional elevators are not a P3D only feature after all. No idea why it works on some models and not others but Lusty's work exactly as advertised.

Edit:

On a semi related note, can anyone suggest replacement VC's for the UKmil Sea Harrier FRS.1 & FA2?

Thinking Dino C's Goshawk pit would be a reasonable fit for the FA2 ,albeit with no vertical canopy framing, bit stuck on the FRS1 though.

fsafranek

August 7th, 2017, 11:49

Yeah, I used to drool over the Eagle and Sea Venom combo. Probably safe to say by now that they aren't coming.
Team SDB is still in contact with Mark about getting his Russian ships and the Eagle outfitted with the FSX-Acceleration carrier features.
It goes slow because he spends most of his time sailing.
:ernaehrung004:

fallenphoenix1986

August 7th, 2017, 11:54

Team SDB is still in contact with Mark about getting his Russian ships and the Eagle outfitted with the FSX-Acceleration carrier features.
It goes slow because he spends most of his time sailing.
:ernaehrung004:

In that case better late than never, just assumed the project was dead since the webpage doesn't appear to have changed in years :jump:

fsafranek

August 7th, 2017, 12:16

In that case better late than never, just assumed the project was dead since the webpage doesn't appear to have changed in years :jump:
When Mark stopped everything to do the F-14 and Kitty Hawk for Aerosoft everything else, including his website, came to a halt.
There is another round of work happening of the F-14 for 64 bit (not clear on Mark's level of involvement) so hopefully after that he will come back to us.
But I'm sure sailing is much more fun.
:ernaehrung004:

CIMOGT

August 21st, 2017, 08:55

Wondering if there are any high end Russian ships available..?
There are a number of models out there but it would be nice to match Kuznetsov.

I have these

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53059&stc=1http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=53060&stc=1

lazarus

August 21st, 2017, 10:17

Avsim RU- the russian one. FSX AI Traffic aircraft section. There is a selection of soviet era Kashin's, Kresta's, Kara's, Zubur's, a diving Akula and a soviet Ferry boat for AI. There was an update ages ago on a FSX shipping site that vanished. I've still got the updated package around, I think. Should see about preserving that to the local server. The original package has some impressive routes for Kola, Sevastopol and northern Sea of Japan. And the Moskva's...
I did a bunch of crap some years ago, early attempts at simplifying some WH freeware for FSX. I hadn't figured out texture mapping, so the drawcall count is higher than current efforts, but they're not too awful; there are a few packages to run down, Merkur and Delfin CVL's, Udaloy,s Kirov, Slava, Osa's, Nanuchka's and a bunch of submarines. FSX misc section. Tonkin Gulf Yacht club package has some PLAN destroyers, LST's, frigates and missile boats, properly mapped and almost worth keeping. There is also a decent couple of subs in a soviet submarine carrier pack, Simviation FSX misc section, and some of that may be here in the library, FSX ships. All landable decks, most of the larger subs are also hard decked, the 072 LST's also have hard deck ramps and welldecks. I need to get the thumb out and get some updates packed up and put out; but, I have just got the bugbite for an Ivan Rogov now that I've put Alpha's Ekranoplans and Piglets LEBED into FSX, along with an AI specific version. Working SUNBURN for the LUN, too, 10-80 NM range, mach 3+ seaskimmer with conventional or nuclear boom, lot's of fun. Blew 'stanbul and Ankara off the map the other day...Smile, Edrogan:a1310:
Oh, yeah...there's AI Helix and Hormone's for plane guard in the carriers and sub carrier pack...
The opforces are fairly well covered.

sketchy

August 23rd, 2017, 00:43

Really hoping someone does a mid to high end rendition of the Queen Elizabeth class... Would make an ideal home for Dino's F-35B.

Looks optimistically in Flying Stations direction :wavey:

Its on the "would be nice to do list..."

spatialpro

August 23rd, 2017, 01:39

Its on the "would be nice to do list..."

My initial Cunning Plan didn't work out, but Cunning Plan v2.0 is coming along nicely...

Ganter

August 23rd, 2017, 02:19

My initial Cunning Plan didn't work out, but Cunning Plan v2.0 is coming along nicely...

Literally just taking a break from what I'm working on this morning to read the forums...

and...this is what my desktop looks like at the moment...

https://s20.postimg.org/qwuola6jh/carrier2.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/84ithpa55/)

https://s20.postimg.org/k7sqj0al9/qe3z.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/9xqbjrkpl/)

https://s20.postimg.org/o5g08exel/qe4.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/uvwhhukk9/)

Ganter :encouragement:

fallenphoenix1986

August 23rd, 2017, 09:11

Outstanding :applause:

Ganter

August 23rd, 2017, 10:01

Outstanding :applause:

Cheers.

Health & Safety first; The Fire Points are going in.

God, this thing is massive.

https://s20.postimg.org/owdbrxp5p/qe5.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/ge3vnlimx/)

View from the bridge - we're going to need some equipment in here!
https://s20.postimg.org/fd3myh1nh/qe3bridge.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/ultkc8vbt/)

This is just a Low Res version at the moment. While I finalise Dims and structural anatomy.

Ganter

CIMOGT

August 23rd, 2017, 11:19

Cheers.

Health & Safety first; The Fire Points are going in.

God, this thing is massive.

https://s20.postimg.org/owdbrxp5p/qe5.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/ge3vnlimx/)

View from the bridge - we're going to need some equipment in here!
https://s20.postimg.org/fd3myh1nh/qe3bridge.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/ultkc8vbt/)

This is just a Low Res version at the moment. While I finalise Dims and structural anatomy.

Ganter

Well done good work

Ganter

August 23rd, 2017, 12:47

Well done good work

Thanks mate.

Ganter :encouragement:

SkippyBing

August 23rd, 2017, 12:53

Ganter

August 23rd, 2017, 13:43

Sweet work! Are you planning on incorporating the Bedford Array touch down point lighting system? Basically a pair of red lights either side of the centre line that move counter to the ship's pitching to give a fixed point to aim for when doing a Short Rolling Vertical Landing (SRVL). I think there're some videos on youtube from the trials sim.

That is the plan. There's no point if it can't accommodate the F-35 (basically Dino's) both for Launch and Recovery.

https://s20.postimg.org/3s2ni8uxp/bedford1.png (https://postimages.org/)

However, that's in the future: we're still welding metal to metal! :encouragement:

https://s20.postimg.org/imr8wf4il/qe7z.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

PhantomP

August 23rd, 2017, 14:05

This looks awesome Ganter,are there plans to add a crew?

Essex

August 23rd, 2017, 14:13

Usefully, ModelConverterX has recently been upgraded to make it much easier to attach effects, platforms and objects to animations (e.g. lifts). Also crash boxes can now be disabled on any part.

Ganter

August 23rd, 2017, 14:17

This looks awesome Ganter,are there plans to add a crew?

Very much so Phantom. That's research in progress as real world video and TV footage emerges as to how Crew Ops are arranged on deck on QE.

Ganter :encouragement:

Ganter

August 23rd, 2017, 14:33

Usefully, ModelConverterX has recently been upgraded to make it much easier to attach effects, platforms and objects to animations (e.g. lifts). Also crash boxes can now be disabled on any part.

Yep, there's been some almighty changes to MCx recently that have made things much, much easier. I'm producing the Roughs in Sketchup , then we'll drag the hull into Gmax for animations and fine tuning but, finally she'll be washed through MCx to finalise Day/ Night/ Effects, testing, etc, Arno's a genius.

It's the scale of thing that throws you...it's enormous. I can't wait to do a VTOL off her.

Tomorrow I'll be mostly redesigning and welding the Flight Ops Observation Module...

https://s20.postimg.org/ma702hcpp/flightcontrol11.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/drxjy566x/)

Cheers,
Ganter

sketchy

August 23rd, 2017, 23:10

Yep, there's been some almighty changes to MCx recently that have made things much, much easier. I'm producing the Roughs in Sketchup , then we'll drag the hull into Gmax for animations and fine tuning but, finally she'll be washed through MCx to finalise Day/ Night/ Effects, testing, etc, Arno's a genius.

It's the scale of thing that throws you...it's enormous. I can't wait to do a VTOL off her.

Tomorrow I'll be mostly redesigning and welding the Flight Ops Observation Module...

Cheers,
Ganter

Fantastic work! Well done, wish I had more time to do development work right now.

Looking forward to flying an 809 Sqn F35 & 820 Merlin from this.

Cheers,

spatialpro

August 24th, 2017, 02:22

Fantastic work Ganter! :encouragement:

I'll put mine on the back burner, but I'll keep tinkering along with it simply 'cos I'm using it to test some new techniques (hence the "Cunning Plan" bit!)

BTW, which set of plans/drawings are you using?

ATB

Andy

Ganter

August 24th, 2017, 02:42

Fantastic work! Well done, wish I had more time to do development work right now.

Looking forward to flying an 809 Sqn F35 & 820 Merlin from this.

Cheers,

Fantastic work Ganter! :encouragement:

I'll put mine on the back burner, but I'll keep tinkering along with it simply 'cos I'm using it to test some new techniques (hence the "Cunning Plan" bit!)

BTW, which set of plans/drawings are you using?

ATB

Andy

sketchy - don't hold your breath! I work slowly...and for me this is a learning curve. Others have already done Big Lizzie if you can't wait. I'm trying to do a very detailed model on her with particular attention to textures as well as AiCarriers integration. I may be some time!

Andy - as above. First attempt at modelling something this huge and with this much functionality. Knowing me as I do there could well be a stage where I literally abondon ship!

Ganter :encouragement:

gp183601

August 24th, 2017, 06:36

I think many of us have tried to model 'Big Lizzie' at some point! I've got about 6 different incomplete sketchup/blender/GMax iterations of her on my hard drive!

Keep up the good work!

Cheers
Gaz

spatialpro

August 24th, 2017, 06:59

I've got about 6 different incomplete sketchup/blender/GMax iterations of her on my hard drive!

WOW! :encouragement:

What drawings is everyone using?

Andy

Ganter

August 24th, 2017, 07:10

WOW! :encouragement:

What drawings is everyone using?

Andy

Who needs drawings? :a1310:

Not really, I have certain measurements taken from graphics posted online on RN site, WIKI, and a few others. These are mostly pertaining to overall Dims for length, breadth, height of Islands, etc.
The rest, I'm afraid are just my guestimates based on the Dims I do have.

Ganter

spatialpro

August 24th, 2017, 07:22

Are you also using the photo-match feature in Sketchup for items such as the bridge, FlyCo etc?

The technique I was using should've been good for the above-water hull, but as regards below the waterline I'm at a loss without drawings... (I should add I was building for P3D, hence detail below the waterline). My original goal was to model everything else besides in the hope that some drawings might become available in the meantime... At the very least the world needs a good body plan for the QE class, if not the full lines!

Ganter

August 24th, 2017, 13:11

Looking around at various sources I don't think she's complicated below the WL Andy,

I got this from a 3D model...

http://www.gandoza.com/3d-watercraft/aircraft-carriers-models/hms-queen-elizabeth-aircraft-carrier-3d-model.html

There are other views on that same site. Of course, some of it is conjecture as we won't know what the welders got up to in the shipyard - but I think that's a fairly good assessment of what the general BWL architecture is.

Also today I have been wondering if the screens could be coded to be some sort of contextual Menu for AiCarriers, etc.

They could display Wind/ Speed.
AI A/C about to TO/ AI A/C traffic in the vicinity.
TacPack enabled for something...etc,
Basically, what they appear to be doing RW.

(Still low res version)

https://s20.postimg.org/hm4scirod/nfgsfddfgg.png (https://postimages.org/)

https://s20.postimg.org/w41zkiizh/dbdffd5.png (https://postimages.org/)

Randy92

August 25th, 2017, 02:17

Seahawk, Would you mind sharing your Liaoning repaint, your version looks like a nice upgrade from the standard version.

Cheers,
Randy

I thought to try a little cleanup on the "Liaoning". Using existing textures the rust went away, then based on current photos
the deck layout was changed. I know she is a darker shade of gray then the real ship but wanted to say thanks to Bear.
Shared texture mapping prevents adding all the small stuff to give it realism, still definitely a fun carrier.

Seahawk72s

August 25th, 2017, 03:29

Seahawk, Would you mind sharing your Liaoning repaint, your version looks like a nice upgrade from the standard version.

Cheers,
Randy

Try these. As always backup your original files.

klnowak

August 25th, 2017, 11:23

Found a model of the Kiegsmarine KMS Graf Zeppelin some time ago on the library of sketchup side. Just change some things and get it to work in FSX now. Placed some Stuka and Me-109 on her.
I`ve decided to do many other things on that ship ( put a hard deck to it, doing a new repaint and will do some more details to let her look more real). If i can contakt the orignial developer i will ask him for his permission to share it as freeware if i will it get ready in future.

Till now that`s the look ....

http://www.caribican.de/Brasilien/Zeppelin1a.jpg

http://www.caribican.de/Brasilien/Zeppelin1d.jpg

http://www.caribican.de/Brasilien/Zeppelin1b.jpg

http://www.caribican.de/Brasilien/Zeppelin1c.jpg

Greetings
Klaus

lazarus

August 25th, 2017, 12:04

Lot's of ship building going on!:applause: Excellent! Been waiting out the weather, finishing up some soviet sea monster conversions, decided I needed a garage for Tim's old Almaz Kalmar (LEBED) LCAC. Now I need an AIST to round out the lot...
Finally made the Orlenok export and not crash the sim...needed the Lun...then I needed a SUNBURN...then the LEBED had to get done...then an AI version so I could 'liberate' small Baltic countries...I suppose I need a decent BTR or Bytor, now. Once you start, it never stops.
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