Icebergs Ahoy!

[Bookman1960]

I've been enjoying hundreds of ships collected for the past 15 years -- everything from CFS2, FS2K2, FS9 and FSX in the seas, lakes and rivers of FSX.

With the recent amazing creations from Henrik, and the soon-to-be-released USN World-wide package, I'm awash (pardon the pun) in ship options but until today, I wasn't able to find any icebergs to place in the frigid arctic/antarctic seas -- something I've wanted so I can use my ice recon aircraft and research vessels, etc..

Well, tonight I was dabbling with an older file wildlife_v2.zip (which features all kinds of creatures placed around the world) and I saw that there were five icebergs included in the pack! Two sets actually (5 large and five identical models but very small)

So, with some creative effort, I was able to place the bergs into my seas with aicarriers. Here's my results..

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=50819&stc=1

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=50820&stc=1

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=50821&stc=1

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=50822&stc=1

[jmbiii]

Cool ! Where is the file located ?

[Bookman1960]

I found it over at Simviation.com



Cool ! Where is the file located ?

[Bookman1960]

Here's the Fiver bergs:

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=50823&stc=1

[hertzie]

Great fun! Looks good! Downloaded the file and will see if I can do what you could. If not, will come back for help :-).

Regards, hertzie.

[Bjoern]

I think there's a model of the Titanic around somewhere...

[jmfabio]

If you can place them with AI carriers then they must behave like ships and thus could write traffic files for them to place them in motion on a track. Right?

Joe

[DaveB]

That's exactly what I was thinking Joe but I didn't put the suggestion forward in case someone expected me to write the traffic file for them:biggrin-new:

ATB
DaveB:)

[jmfabio]

Dave, not that I can write the file! I am like the monkeys with the typewriters. Given enough time and at random...... maybe>

But then again my friends say that I am a thinker, not a doer. HAHA!

Joe

[Bookman1960]

Well, Dave, now that you mention it...any chance you might be talked into creating some packs??

BTW, there are two sizes of each berg -- one large and one small.

Here's a quick comparison of one set. I'll try to get the other berg comparisons done tomorrow:


http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=50853&stc=1
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=50854&stc=1

[Bookman1960]

Now, come to think of it, I recall Henrik hinting at making some bergs as well!!

From a post on his shipping projectack in 2015:

"...I am actually working on it... Greenland and the arctic areas will be in the next update and moving icebergs are not that difficult at all... this is from a test from Greenland..."

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=50855&stc=1


Wonder if he's looking at this page?

Henrik?

[Bookman1960]

Well, well,....

I was looking in another folder under \Misc and found these beauties -- and they're monsters!. They're from the Abacus "Mission Blackhawk" package.

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=50856&stc=1

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=50857&stc=1

I love the second set, as there are mixed sizes in the group.

[Bookman1960]

The Small Bergs from Above for Size Comparison

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=50882&stc=1

[jeansy]

have you seen this thread by aerosoft?

http://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/121981-you-want-ice-with-that-project-died-sorry/

I wish you luck with yours, it would be interesting to see the outcome

[kl791]

Now, come to think of it, I recall Henrik hinting at making some bergs as well!!

From a post on his shipping projectack in 2015:

"...I am actually working on it... Greenland and the arctic areas will be in the next update and moving icebergs are not that difficult at all... this is from a test from Greenland..."

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=50855&stc=1


Wonder if he's looking at this page?

Henrik?

I do... I will note it down for the next update... I do have the icebergs but never did the routes... Maybe because I found this Nuuk scenery from FSDG and just put my ships in between their icebergs...



http://nsm08.casimages.com/img/2015/05/25//15052509222616112913299211.jpg

http://nsm08.casimages.com/img/2015/05/25//15052509222316112913299209.jpg

[Bookman1960]

Are the bergs in that package static scenery or ai?

[IFlySWA]

An ai iceberg? It's just a matter of time before Erwin Welker makes one pilotable. :biggrin-new:

Brian

[DaveB]

An ai iceberg? It's just a matter of time before Erwin Welker makes one pilotable. :biggrin-new:

Brian

.. with 18 camera views for you to explore it!:biggrin-new:
ATB
DaveB:)

[kl791]

Are the bergs in that package static scenery or ai?

Static - the ones I have done are supposed to be AI and have been done with hard surface.

[hertzie]

OK, did install wildlife v2. It says it's simconnected. Also AI-carriers works ok, says I can load icebergs. But no icebergs show up, for I get the message that creation of the objects has failed, so I must have done something wrong. I tried to make icebergs as boats putting the model, texture and sim-folders in a folder named Iceberg1,2,etc. and reworked the cfg.

Suggestions welcome, never too old to learn,

hertzie

[DaveB]

That error 'usually' points to an incorrect AIC entry. AIC is looking for the model listed in the formation and can't find it. This said.. I've never tried icebergs before so who knows what could be causing it!:dizzy: As a check.. make sure the title= line in the sim.cfg matches the unit.X= entry in AIC.

ATB
DaveB:)

[Bookman1960]

Ok...Hopefully these screenshots will assist you in converting the bergs you have to ai. If not, PM me and we can get you sorted.


You first have to isolate the models (image 1)

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=51011&stc=1

Then create entries for each berg (image 2)
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=51012&stc=1
Finally, make sure you have a 'boat' ai as the basis for the file (I took mine from one of the default ai boats)
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=51013&stc=1

Hope this helps.

Bookman

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OK, did install wildlife v2. It says it's simconnected. Also AI-carriers works ok, says I can load icebergs. But no icebergs show up, for I get the message that creation of the objects has failed, so I must have done something wrong. I tried to make icebergs as boats putting the model, texture and sim-folders in a folder named Iceberg1,2,etc. and reworked the cfg.

Suggestions welcome, never too old to learn,

hertzie

[Bookman1960]

So...

I have isolated a dozen berg shapes from iceberg_lib.zip by Jay Langham [an iceberg scenery placement library for FS9 & FSX]. The file is a single .bgl file that when evaluated revealed two dozen berg shapes\MDL's which I have extracted and looked at using MDL view tools.
Now my question is...

Having isolated each mdl file, is it possible to then make these ai, as I have done with the other shapes we've been discussing? My understanding from reading through various forums over the weekend is that FSX makes no distinction between an MDL made for flying and an MDL made as a scenery object. Thus I'm hoping I can utilize these shapes to broaden my ai bergs plan further.

Alas, I have been unsuccessful in getting these files to work for me. I can see them in the MDL view tool (and they're textured) but so far I have been unsuccessful in getting them to load as ai.

Any ideas?

Bookman

[trucker17]

I think there's a model of the Titanic around somewhere...

Is it a Ghost ship...? that would be perfect......

[hertzie]

OK Bookman, thanks for your time, help and advice. For me it's a bridge too far, so forget about it.

Safe landings,

hertzie.

[Bookman1960]

This project is still in progress. Every few months I've been learning/trying new ideas and tools.

I've had a scenery file that I couldn't seem to get to cooperate with me but this past weekend (thanks to some wonderful support over at FS Developers forum) I've finally made some progress ...at last!

I now have a collection of twenty additional icebergs to populate my oceans!

Here's a few examples:
https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Photos/FSX/KB_Icebergs_new_1.jpg?role=personal

https://www.dropbox.com/home/Photos/FSX?preview=KB_Icebergs_new_1.jpghttps://www.dropbox.com/s/8w44fq6ej8w0v5y/KB_Icebergs_new_1.jpg?dl=1