Monty's C-47 (1948) wip!

[TuFun]

Some work thus far...

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/10/13/X1.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/10/13/X2.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/10/13/X3.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/10/13/X4.jpg

[cavaricooper]

Ted-

You keep tempting me! ATM I'm flying the Orbx World Aleutians in Sibwings' An-2, but soon, very soon I shall be driving London Control batty with Kestrel & Kittyhawk flights in and out of the Royal Suite. It's grand fun fitting in between the 777s on short final ;).

KN628 is just the ticket- Ta!

C

PS- I started the repaint thread asking someone to paint the RAE Dak... So if you are ever inclined... That would be splendid as well!

[Roger]

Looking great Ted:applause:

[TuFun]

Thanks guys! Few pics with alpha added. Spending most of my time cross-referencing many pics of C-47's. Exploring the possibilities!

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/10/15/X11.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/10/15/x6.jpg

Need to move the outer reinforced wing panel a few inches out than it shows here.

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/10/15/x7.jpg

Here's one of Monty's C-47 used by the Queen. (1961) Notice the special door added to the rear cargo door. Hmm... adding another door... my next project maybe! Yep, I think so!!!

https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6214/6326639564_c3b4449ac7_b.jpg

[Flyboy208]

Ted, the attention to detail is just amazing ! Mike :applause:

[TuFun]

Ted-

I started the repaint thread asking someone to paint the RAE Dak... So if you are ever inclined... That would be splendid as well!

Have you contacted Bernhard Lechner about upgrading his RAE Dak? His email is in the readme.

[cavaricooper]

Ted-

I tried PM'ing him... will try email...ta!

C

PS- love the shot of HM onboard!!

[TuFun]

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l40/TwFun/STUFF/W0_zps0u8f3sg6.jpg~original

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l40/TwFun/STUFF/W2_zpss3wpfi0y.jpg~original

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l40/TwFun/STUFF/W1_zpsd03ptwkk.jpg~original

[Flyboy208]

Leading edges look great, almost looked like de-ice boots on the previous posting. Excellent work ! Mike :wavey:

[TuFun]

Leading edges look great, almost looked like de-ice boots on the previous posting. Excellent work ! Mike :wavey:

Booty's are off temporarily. :biggrin-new:

[TuFun]

Mostly done for few tidbits (booties, etc.), next is bottom part of the wings to do.

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/10/23/X14.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/10/23/X12.jpg

[manfredc3]

Wow, amazing.

That's payware quality, but what else can we expect when Tufun is involved. :applause:

[TuFun]

Did some flying around Monterey, CA. Checking the Dak out in P3Dv3.4

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/10/23/T1.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/10/23/T2.jpg

[TuFun]

Testing new spec, bumps and alphas on the wings. Added irregularities in the bumps to break up shine reflections. Looking for the right combos!

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/10/31/X1.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/10/31/X2.jpg

[TuFun]

A peek at some of the work on the fuselage.

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/11/03/X4.jpg

[Ian Warren]

Looking Great , one thing when close up to a DC-3 .. all those little lumpy bits they call rivets :encouragement:

[TuFun]

Looking Great , one thing when close up to a DC-3 .. all those little lumpy bits they call rivets :encouragement:

Fact is there are some five hundred thousand (500,000+) rivets were used in the manufacture of the Douglas DC-3 airplane. I believe it after looking at walkarounds of the aircraft!

The average size used in the manufacture was approximately 3-8 inches long, and if laid end-to-end, the rivets would cover a distance of 15,625 feet or more than three miles.

[TuFun]

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/11/08/X10.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/11/08/X11.jpg

[cavaricooper]

Ted-

I have a feeling your labor of love will be my favorite girl at the ball. Just the ticket for driving London Control quite mad by slowing to 90kts on a long final with a half-dozen heavies behind me. Then gently slowing to make the turn-off for the Royal Suite to pick up HM.... the radio chatter should be brilliant;).

Seriously lovely stuff mate!

Ta- C

[Willy]

Very Nice! I've held off on the C-47. That might have to change.

I'm working on a makeover for the Cal Classic C-46 (and JBK B307) and the rivets can be quite maddening. Good close up pics are hard to find and not many references show the rivets.

[TuFun]

Very Nice! I've held off on the C-47. That might have to change.

I'm working on a makeover for the Cal Classic C-46 (and JBK B307) and the rivets can be quite maddening. Good close up pics are hard to find and not many references show the rivets.

There are some areas that I can't see on the C-47 and comb the net daily for that one photo. There are some fantastic blueprints, but at a cost.

Scaling is a problem due the mapping of the model, so are limited to how the rivets look.

I find it fun to see if one can replicate an aircraft in the virtual world! Plus this as inspiration... http://www.manuelflemming.de/douglas-c-47/

[Butcherbird17]

That is some fine panel and rivet work there TuFun. I assume you are redoing the bump maps too.
Will you be releasing those layers for the PK by chance when you are done? I sure would like to update
my released paints with those.

Joe

[Ron Attwood]

If this paint doesn't weigh in at 2GIG I'll be amazed! :biggrin-new:

[TuFun]

Yep it's madding how large the files are... close to locking up my computer with 16GB DDR3.

Anyways most of my time getting those rivets on the borderline on the wing fairing set.

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/11/09/X1.jpg

[TuFun]

Alpha in the SPEC.... alpha in the .DDS.... MetalWorks! :biggrin-new: Fairing revised, nose and aft med section need attention next.

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/11/10/X2.jpg

Some areas need fixing...
http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/11/10/X3.jpg
http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/11/10/X4.jpg

[TuFun]

Non-alpha...

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/11/12/X1.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/11/13/TR2.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/11/13/TF1.jpg

[Flyboy208]

Ted, when painting in non-alpha does it make it easier when adding panel lines and rivets? Mike :wavey:

[TuFun]

Ted, when painting in non-alpha does it make it easier when adding panel lines and rivets? Mike :wavey:

I find it easier to find errors which there is some that I didn't notice with alphas applied. Also depends how dark the metal is. As you can see in the wings a little darker makes the rivets pop. You can soften the rivets by lighten the color as seen in the fuselage. The wings will get a lighter color when finished to match the fuselage. Just experimenting at the moment. I must have changed stuff half a dozen times already.

Love using the curve tool, especially doing specs, and alphas. :untroubled:

[TuFun]

Spec with alpha only.

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/11/16/TR3.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/11/16/TR4.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/11/15/TR2.jpg

[Ian Warren]

Crikey that is looking Very very smart, it is good to be able to walk around a DC-3/C-47 and really study the bits and pieces , great work Ted :very_drunk:

[TuFun]

Crikey that is looking Very very smart, it is good to be able to walk around a DC-3/C-47 and really study the bits and pieces , great work Ted :very_drunk:

Photo series like this comes in handy when documenting a complete overhaul!

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd320/flightsimer/Air%20Heritage/C-47%2043-48716/IMG_0931_zps0eko9za4.jpg

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd320/flightsimer/Air%20Heritage/C-47%2043-48716/IMG_0831_zpsp5wajiaq.jpg

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd320/flightsimer/Air%20Heritage/C-47%2043-48716/IMG_1750_zps73d4ad15.jpg

[TuFun]

Interesting cargo doors of a C-47... camera ship! At least that's what it is listed, I suspect a different aircraft.

http://www.impdb.org/images/7/70/Bikini_C-47film3.JPG

[TuFun]

Working on the cargo doors and fixed the angle on half of the rivets on the bottom part of the tail.

There are several ways the doors are assembled.

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/11/17/TR5.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/11/17/TR6.jpg

[manfredc3]

A genuine product of a "labor of love" :applause:

[TuFun]

A genuine product of a "labor of love" :applause:

It's good therapy... and Monty's C-47 is a very rare bird, wanted to do something special.

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/11/18/TR7.jpg

[TuFun]

Added a little extra metal just in case the prop goes!

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/11/22/A1.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/11/22/A2.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/11/22/A3.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/11/22/A4.jpg

[fuzz1]

Woah. Pretty much like looking at photos of the real thing. Great eye you have there Tufun.

[Duckie]

Really enjoying these WIP posts. Thanks for taking us along, Ted!

Steve

[TuFun]

Got to spend some time on this today which is rare these days, but focused on the H-stab. Testing different materials on the canvas.

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/12/05/e1.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/12/05/e2.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/12/05/e3.jpg

[TuFun]

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/12/20/14.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/12/20/12.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/12/20/11.jpg

[manfredc3]

Those wings are looking very nice.

[TuFun]

Back to work...

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/02/19/TWR-3.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/02/19/TWR-4.jpg

[DaveB]

Nice to see you back Ted:encouragement:

ATB
DaveB:)

[MustangL2W]

Incredible work... I admire your patients, and attention to detail!!!

[TuFun]

Thanks guys! Inspired by Vauchez artist work and one of my favorite Navy aircraft.

His work is absolutely fantastic starting with the rivets and panels!

http://cdn-live.warthunder.com/uploads/7c/349511acfec0f5ee12da0896b0268bd7a57394/f6f-5+rework02.jpg

http://cdn-live.warthunder.com/uploads/b6/ae152b02c0acf4ea374a35269f7ffd471e94aa/repaint+coverpage+F6F-5+64.jpg

http://cdn-live.warthunder.com/uploads/c9/3c496efdbceb82419320db6c7029c094c143c2/f6f-5n_cockpit04.jpg

http://cdn-live.warthunder.com/uploads/3e/24d4a07ed788db3c46c6ddae7ec65ff10c7339/f6f-5n_cockpit03.jpg

[TuFun]

http://cdn-live.warthunder.com/uploads/24/39dedb79b4e61090a83e08b6dcaee65bd7b4f5/f6f-5+rework03.jpg

http://cdn-live.warthunder.com/uploads/91/73fea38056c9e86fba1f1f449760230372b85d/f5f-5_115_05.jpg

http://cdn-live.warthunder.com/uploads/f9/b2024e5e5b42561f7ac4416930ba0ad409cf5b/f5f-5_115_07.jpg

http://cdn-live.warthunder.com/uploads/b6/ddaa26d54ef02bf2f786019f69b1bb83921891/f6f-5-11f_repaint02.jpg

[Ian Warren]

Hmmm :adoration: I do like those HELLCATS , almost 'John Wayne' season again .. time to pancake :encouragement:

[tankerguy72]

Great work on the riveting TuFun! Im doing the same on my C-123 build. Very time consuming work.

That Hellcat..... just wow. Those kind of screenshots are what made me download that game. Very realistic

[TuFun]

Great work on the riveting TuFun! Im doing the same on my C-123 build. Very time consuming work.

That Hellcat..... just wow. Those kind of screenshots are what made me download that game. Very realistic

Yep, but it's well worth the effort! The DC3/C-47 has a ton of them, although what I'm doing is representative not actual. In other words real shows 5 rivets, I'm showing 4 rivets due to mapping restrictions.

I've not done the normals (only blank bumps) yet, what's done is just textures only.

[TuFun]

Another Vauchez masterpiece!

http://cdn-live.warthunder.com/uploads/b0/2c5e9ec7abcd4772b8af59e110a0fc500ae175/War+Thunder+Screenshot+2017.02.28+-+12.01.06.48.jpg

http://cdn-live.warthunder.com/uploads/27/744ec26be89c7a4dfa054bce7cb6dc08b5d630/War+Thunder+Screenshot+2017.03.02+-+10.59.54.40.jpg

http://cdn-live.warthunder.com/uploads/6e/9a4919caabcc8e784623da76481276016f4c85/War+Thunder+Screenshot+2017.03.02+-+11.02.21.81.jpg

http://cdn-live.warthunder.com/uploads/01/6eb842503e6c1f39e53fa7959481042675367c/War+Thunder+Screenshot+2017.03.02+-+11.22.58.46.jpg

[TuFun]

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/03/12/128.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/03/12/127.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/03/12/126.jpg

[MustangL2W]

Can't wait to see and fly the finished product!!

[TuFun]

Adding a few panel lines...

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/03/12/129.jpg

[txnetcop]

I'm speechless:applause::applause::applause:
Ted

[speedy70]

The question is of course When?

Cheers Chris

[Duckie]

Beautifully skillful artistry. Thanks for sharing your WIP.

[TuFun]

The question is of course When?

Cheers Chris

New Manfred Jahn modified model and still in beta. That will be up to Manfred.

[gaucho_59]

:wavey:

Great work.... just one suggestion... (and I know you can do it) re: roundels.... on the white portion... rivets show through manificently..
but... and here is the rub... on the blue part they are not visible at all... this robs the "realistic" look... you need to select the blue area
in the rivets layer... and use "lighting" up those rivets on a superimposed layer... (easily done by copying that area in the rivets layer and putting it on another
layer above... make them show... and integrate it back into the rivets layer.. then it all looks uniform...
with liveries that do not have roundels... just use the rivet layer as it was... in the end... it all becomes one layer in the texture.. right?)

Again great work... oh.. another suggestion (the rivets themselves could stand to be cleaned up a bit... (their being a bit irregularly faded in outline, etc.
contrasts with the sharp cleanly crisp lines in the rest of the surfaces) after you clean a single rivet to be well defined
then the rows can be recreated like so many sausages...) Your overall finish really gives a realistic natural metal feel..

Congratulations..
G.:applause::wavey:

[TuFun]

Thanks Duckie, Ted, and gaucho!

Didn't focus to much on the decals, just put them there for affect. About the little wieners... LOL... just didn't get to squishing those just yet due to the distortion field only did a row of them last year.

Only did a few to see how much squishing was need to look round then moved on to other areas, will get back to those shortly.

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/03/13/1ae289.jpg

[cavaricooper]

Take your time Ted... can't hurry perfection- looking GREAT!

Ta- C

[TuFun]

Fun stuff learning "how" and learning how to use Photoshop with all those neat tools and such at the same time from a Paint.net user!!! :biggrin-new:

Now just got to get as half as good as Vauchez's work.

[magoo]

The times I have spent caressing the flanks of some sundry C-47's past.......have left the indelible impression that at least fifty percent of their weight be that of rivet fasteners.

Thank you for reinforcing...even...validating that impression to be real....

( Same goes for the B-17...too.)

:engel016:

[TuFun]

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/03/13/hot2.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/03/13/hot1.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/03/13/hot3.jpg

[TuFun]

Reinforced plate on the tail... not sure what's it call and the basic H-stab fairing in place. Cool stuff!!!

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/03/14/HOTSTUFF.jpg

[jankees]

it just gets better and better, wonderful work!

[cavaricooper]

Ted-

She's beginning to blur the line.... there are billions of light points and shadow detail that together make up what our eyes see IRL... you must have breached the first billion mate- WOW!

Thanks for your perseverance- looking forward to the drool.

C

[TuFun]

Thanks jankees, C, everyone! Amazing amount of tools and techniques in PS6 I haven't even thought about using now until I was shown by experts.

Toying with this one, always loved the Gulfhawk and it only comes in orange. Factory fresh version. Wip for now, but after I finish the DAk, will be back with this one. And it only comes in orange!

Needs better strips, but for now.
http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/03/15/GH1.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/03/15/GH2.jpg

[cavaricooper]

Nice, but I'm hung up on KN628 ..... I will fly her around the world to celebrate her release :)

Carl

[TuFun]

Nice, but I'm hung up on KN628 ..... I will fly her around the world to celebrate her release :)

Carl

Just got an updated model from Manfred today to work with. Elevator trim tab linkage is now correct for one. Good stuff! :adoration:

The right elevator trim linkage is now located on the bottom and removed from the top.

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/03/17/TW2.jpg

Tail shot with decals...

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/03/17/TW1.jpg

[TuFun]

For P3Dv3, Manfred has added dynamic reflections.. good stuff!

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/03/18/22.jpg

Of course FSX doesn't have that.

FSX-SE update.

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/03/19/M1.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/03/19/M2.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/03/19/M3.jpg

[tankerguy72]

Amazing amount of tools and techniques in PS6 I haven't even thought about using now until I was shown by experts.






can you elaborate a bit on this please. Always great to learn some new techniques :jump: You're doing a great job! Very realistic.

[TuFun]

can you elaborate a bit on this please. Always great to learn some new techniques :jump: You're doing a great job! Very realistic.

I use this add on for Photoshop 6 in my work. http://quixel.se/suite/

Can work directly on normal maps. Here I've added three different test shapes on top of a bump mapped texture of a F3F model.

In the box you can make changes of the shape on the fly... very handy.

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/03/21/normals.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/03/21/normals2.jpg

[Pere]

[Quote = TuFun; 1048411] Algunos trabajos hasta el momento ...

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/10/13/X1.jpg [/ IMG]

[IMG] http: / /www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/10/13/X2.jpg

[IMG] http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/10/13/X3.jpg [/ IMG]

[IMG] http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/10/13/X4.jpg [/ IMG] [/ quote]

[TuFun]

Thanks Pere.

Examples of panels, rivets, fasteners, welds, holes, etc. ...

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/03/21/T1.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/03/21/T2.jpg

[TuFun]

One source I also use is the talent over at War Thunder forums.

Example: Very complicated pattern on a Japanese aircraft.

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/271963-guide-to-creating-complicated-spot-designs-paintnet/

Bare metal version
http://i.imgur.com/BPRWxUB.jpg
(https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/271963-guide-to-creating-complicated-spot-designs-paintnet/)
Bare metal version

[TuFun]

Sorry for delay... life stuff, very much disappoint with people, but hey here is an update using stuff I've learned from master Photoshop experts who do aircraft.

Focus was on the cowls and center wing area... more to do as more to learn is applied.

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/04/09/TWR2.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/04/09/TWR1.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/04/01/4.jpg

[Bjoern]

One rivet, two rivets, three rivets, four riv-...*zzzZZzzz*

[Roger]

One rivet, two rivets, three rivets, four riv-...*zzzZZzzz*

Bjoern, If you don't like the progress shots, just ignore the thread.

[DaveB]

That level of detail is.. well.. stunning! Taking nothing from the other two shots, the underside is, for that type of weathering and wear, the best I've seen.

Nice one Ted:encouragement:
ATB
DaveB:)

[TuFun]

Bjoern, If you don't like the progress shots, just ignore the thread.

He's a funny guy, but incredibly talented though. :adoration:


That level of detail is.. well.. stunning! Taking nothing from the other two shots, the underside is, for that type of weathering and wear, the best I've seen.

Nice one Ted:encouragement:
ATB
DaveB:)

Next step is how to apply flying oil from the radials bleeding all over it. :biggrin-new:

[Pere]

Good work, dedication patience and desire to enjoy, the perfect mix and also want to share with the whole community, thank you very much for your talent:applause::applause::applause:

[TuFun]

One rivet, two rivets, three rivets, four riv-...*zzzZZzzz*

I am missing a few of them.... see... :biggrin-new: I'll do better next time. :adoration:

http://data3.primeportal.net/hangar/mark_hayward/c-47a_skytrain/images/c-47a_skytrain_03_of_44.jpg

[cavaricooper]

Ted-

I will fly this one a lot, and so I APPRECIATE your rivet counting. She will be quite something!

Best- C

PS- Did she have "whiskers" in real life?

[TuFun]

Looking at cargo doors, there were a few configurations (rivets) that I could do and not sure what model or year made the difference, but did this one.

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/04/09/TWR3.jpg

[TuFun]

Ted-

I will fly this one a lot, and so I APPRECIATE your rivet counting. She will be quite something!

Best- C

PS- Did she have "whiskers" in real life?

Yep! A few.

[TuFun]

Didn't know about this until recently when it was pointed out by Master Photoshop expert what I can do by applying this 'fx' method to some of my layers. What a difference!

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/layer-effects-styles.html

[Duckie]

This thread is very much (for me at least) like spending time in a fine art museum and marveling at the artists skill and ability, not to mention his subject. Then, upon leaving, having the attendant present you with one of the originals, free of charge!:emmersed:

[manfredc3]

This thread is very much (for me at least) like spending time in a fine art museum and marveling at the artists skill and ability, not to mention his subject. Then, upon leaving, having the attendant present you with one of the originals, free of charge!:emmersed:

+1

And it is so interesting reading as the master (Ted) learns something new.

[TuFun]

This thread is very much (for me at least) like spending time in a fine art museum and marveling at the artists skill and ability, not to mention his subject. Then, upon leaving, having the attendant present you with one of the originals, free of charge!:emmersed:

Just think what if I had one of those digital drawing pads... drawing freehand instead creating a path with the pen tool. Besides this is much easier than creating those radial sound sets. Anyways looking forward to your adventure on the B-26, should start a new thread.


+1

And it is so interesting reading as the master (Ted) learns something new.

A real master would have had this done in few hours! :biggrin-new: But really appreciate the vote of confidence. Off to create a few new brushes for those hard spots.

[TuFun]

Sunday is my R & R day... :joyous:

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Ke8g-BV3pxU/WGK4qjnNyAI/AAAAAAABQ38/459AePtDJPolPmPT2axy0MRIbkcSHt96QCLcB/s640/DDay-Shayley%2BSmith-%2BModel%2Bin%2Bthe%2Bcockpit%2Bof%2BUSAAF%2BC-47.jpg

[jankees]

Yes, R&R is important too!

[DaveB]

Yikes.. I'll second that:encouragement:

ATB
DaveB:)

[TuFun]

Baby (hotty) said it wasn't shinny enough so... little env boost... just a little. :adoration:

Also corrected that little window. Just a reminder, haven't added the booties as it is required on this aircraft.

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/04/10/TWR-6.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/04/10/TWR-7.jpg

[DaveB]

Who'd be so bold as to argue with her:biggrin-new:

ATB
DaveB:)

[Bjoern]

Bjoern, If you don't like the progress shots, just ignore the thread.

Woah, easy there...it was meant as a compliment!
Mind you, there are not many occasions to actually count rivets in FSX, so Ted's work is more than welcome for those sleepless nights. :)




I am missing a few of them.... see... :biggrin-new: I'll do better next time. :adoration:


...one hundred seventy seven rivets, one hundred seventy eight rivets, one hundred seventy nine rivets, one hundr-.... *zzzZZZzzz*

[TuFun]

...one hundred seventy seven rivets, one hundred seventy eight rivets, one hundred seventy nine rivets, one hundr-.... *zzzZZZzzz*

I'm glad I could help! :biggrin-new:

https://img.devrant.io/devrant/rant/r_445678_sLGDg.jpg

[TuFun]

Tailspin45 (team member) will be at the Flabob DC-3 fly-in May 20-22 and will be bring his camera so will have some nice detailed pics.

I've beveled the black hole in the nacelle. Main focus was on that back panel detail work and lining up those three rows of rivets.

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/04/11/TWR-8.jpg

[tankerguy72]

Tailspin45 (team member) will be at the Flabob DC-3 fly-in May 20-22 and will be bring his camera so will have some nice detailed pics.



Ill be there also! cant wait. Also we have a DC-3 sitting here at our field (without tail, wings, and engines.) but if you need pics of the fuselage I can get something for you. :wavey:

[TuFun]

Thanks tankerguy. We have two guys (David and Alexander), who are on the team that have access to a C-47 and DC-3.

The C-47 is in the process of being restored to flying status and the Breitling DC-3 is going on its World Tour soon.

http://www.pacificdakotarestorations.com/

[Bjoern]

I'm glad I could help! :biggrin-new:

https://img.devrant.io/devrant/rant/r_445678_sLGDg.jpg

I'm apparently a teacher and a programmer, but my engineering degree says otherwise. [Retreats into the mountains for two decades in confusion to contemplate existence]

[TuFun]

Testing metal scratches/buffing on the cowling as the sun reflects on the metal.

Before shot with no scratches on the cowling.

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/04/13/MetalReflection.jpg


Video shows sun reflecting cowl scratches as it moves.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-ejeENtTq4

[Bjoern]

Man, I wish I had so much time and patience to make such textures. Most of my efforts don't go further than noise, motion blur and some levels editing and grayscale copies of the diffuse texture for a spec map. :biggrin-new:

[TuFun]

^ Mostly learning the ins and outs of Photoshop which taking most of my time. When time permits... working continues on Monty's bird.

This particular fuel cap is on a German C-47.



http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/04/17/33.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/04/17/34.jpg

Examples:

[TuFun]

Finished all the inner panels, next is to raise (bumps) them just a bit since they overlap somewhat. Refine the artwork on the radials too.

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/04/19/45.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/04/19/44.jpg

[Bjoern]

Oh come on, I haven't even finished counting the rivets in the other pictures yet! :biggrin-new:

Terriffic work!

[TuFun]

Oh come on, I haven't even finished counting the rivets in the other pictures yet! :biggrin-new:

Terriffic work!

Oh! Flip it over... lots more there! :biggrin-new: Anyways stuff I did many months ago was crap. Can't believe I've been setting on PS for years and never really use it's potential. :banghead: It was part of the software package used in college at that time interesting enough. :topsy_turvy:

Well I'm not this good yet, hang out at the developers blog gives one pause though.

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/352916-development-a-26b-51-the-king-of-attack-planes/

(https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/352916-development-a-26b-51-the-king-of-attack-planes/)http://warthunder.com/en/news/4356-devblog-lockheed-b-34-hudson-s-bigger-brother-en/

(http://warthunder.com/en/news/4356-devblog-lockheed-b-34-hudson-s-bigger-brother-en/)https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/351912-development-b-10b-the-racing-bomber/

[TuFun]

Went to a auto show with aircraft as a backdrop... heaven!!! As in the 7th Heaven C-47 and one bad a$$ Camaro!

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l40/TwFun/Car%20Show%202017/IMG_0160_zpsecs9pltl.jpg~original

Black on Black... nice! Not a Cobra...

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l40/TwFun/Car%20Show%202017/IMG_0039_zps0sbj33rz.jpg~original

Superb example... drove one like this two years for Del Monte.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l40/TwFun/Car%20Show%202017/IMG_0156_zpszgwmtnid.jpg~original

[cavaricooper]

Ted-

I an amazed by the quality of modeling in the forum you pointed to- wow! Being presently committed to the P3D ecosystem, I appreciate your ongoing work on Monty's bird.

I work in CS 6.5 and firmly believe most (including myself) do not begin to scratch the surface of possibilities with that suite.

Thank-you!

Carl

[TuFun]

Ted-

I an amazed by the quality of modeling in the forum you pointed to- wow! Being presently committed to the P3D ecosystem, I appreciate your ongoing work on Monty's bird.

I work in CS 6.5 and firmly believe most (including myself) do not begin to scratch the surface of possibilities with that suite.

Thank-you!

Carl

There's one artist there that produces textures that are exactly what is shown in historical pictures right down to the dents and scratches. Truly amazing stuff!

Some day, but way down the road for now. As such I've been working on the outer wings today.

Just alignment stuff, further changes needed.

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/04/26/46.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/04/26/47.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/04/26/48.jpg

[TuFun]

I thought I would study up on how to use the pin tool with paths to make the doors look 3d, especially the round corners... those path antennas took some time to get use to.

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/04/27/Doors.jpg

[cavaricooper]

Ted-

I check this thread regularly.... vey impressed... looking forward to flying this one ver much!

Brilliant work (pun intended) :)

C

[TuFun]

Ted-

I check this thread regularly.... vey impressed... looking forward to flying this one ver much!

Brilliant work (pun intended) :)

C

Thank you, look at this mirror! Look at all those reinforcement plate rivets, I'm missing a few... jeez!!! :dizzy:

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/11/19/IMG_1465a.jpg

Another area I'm looking at as how fuel/oil has affect on paint, like bleaching, fading, etc.

Example...


Paint by fjpdll at War Thunder
http://cdn-live.warthunder.com/uploads/bf/eb/62/cb3a59aa2a652584509feed3f287173522/shot%202017.04.23%2018.56.09.jpg

[gray eagle]

Ted,


Not to hijack your post but are you planning on using any GlobalEnv_AC_Chrome in your WIP? I'm using a 6th Gen Nvidia 660 GPU and in a couple months getting Nvidia 10th Gen GTX 1060.

This is what a Y-U-G-E GlobalEnv_AC_Chrome.dds (96 Mb) file will do with chrome:

https://s2.postimg.org/6fzeraufd/chrome.jpg

https://s11.postimg.org/cxt242ahv/chrome1.jpg

https://s1.postimg.org/v8pn0j73j/engine.jpg

https://s29.postimg.org/bh9gpiecn/virginia.jpg

[gray eagle]

https://s14.postimg.org/svxidhtb5/engine1.jpg

[TuFun]

The beta model still uses GlobalEnv file which I'm using Banana Bobs version. The alphas are on the light side on Monty.

How did you get grass on the runway? Just kidding. I did test a beta MDL file that had P3Dv.3 Dynamic Reflection turn on. Reflection of the actual surrounding are seen in the skin. So no need for GlobalEnv. I know Jan just switched to P3D so I guessing he's going to want DF as an option.

Just curious in one of your pics the H-stab is not polished (no chrome effect). Also Hani's American Airlines has an alternate GlobalEnv file that looks good to. You got Miss Virginia looking pretty hot!

Here's a few shots of Dynamic Reflection enabled for P3Dv.3. Few testers have P3D on the team.

You can actually see the runway, trees, and clouds in the reflection. Even the prop tip show actual reflection.

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/04/28/P3D-2.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/04/28/P3D-1.jpg

[RjSchreiber63]

That is AWESOME!!!!!! WOW

[gray eagle]

The beta model still uses GlobalEnv file which I'm using Banana Bobs version. The alphas are on the light side on Monty.

How did you get grass on the runway? Just kidding. I did test a beta MDL file that had P3Dv.3 Dynamic Reflection turn on. Reflection of the actual surrounding are seen in the skin. So no need for GlobalEnv. I know Jan just switched to P3D so I guessing he's going to want DF as an option.

Just curious in one of your pics the H-stab is not polished (no chrome effect). Also Hani's American Airlines has an alternate GlobalEnv file that looks good to. You got Miss Virginia looking pretty hot!

Here's a few shots of Dynamic Reflection enabled for P3Dv.3. Few testers have P3D on the team.

You can actually see the runway, trees, and clouds in the reflection. Even the prop tip show actual reflection.



http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/04/28/P3D-1.jpg

I'm happy and glad to of switched to P3d V3.4 - I still have FSX on another drive. I am still in learning curve with what is has to offer but things like Dynamic reflection and the other abilities is has
is really amazing. I can boot the DR slider to the right and pull up other chrome skinned planes and it sure make a difference. Thought I would take a FPS hit using it but haven't notice too much of a drop. Trying to tweak it for
"That perfect image setting" I guess is subjective to the eye of the user. So many sliders in the "Lighting" dept. to adjust and experiment with. + anxiously awaiting Nvidia GTX 1060 DX-12 capable but only Win 10 supports DX-12.

[TuFun]

3d Fuel drains added, and spent time working on the rear area of the wing fairing.

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/04/30/TWR-4-29.jpg

[cavaricooper]

Ted-

I keep thinking she can't get better, and you keep proving me WRONG!

Bravo!

C

[TuFun]

Ted-

I keep thinking she can't get better, and you keep proving me WRONG!

Bravo!

C

Thanks! Magic is in the bumps! Just the right amount here and there. Stencils give it a nice touch.

[jankees]

Wow, Ted, it's looking fantastic! A truly outstanding job.
I can only hope you will share the final results in a paintkit, if only to force me to revisit all my old paints..

[TuFun]

Dave over Pacific Dakota Restorations is looking over it and will advise me on alterations and updates that need to be done.

Model: model.shiny is used.

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/05/03/111.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/05/03/222.jpg

Little piece under the antenna was missing... so...

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/05/03/333.jpg
Dave introducing the Dakota.

https://www.facebook.com/pacificdakotarestorations/videos/vb.680805945351441/946120985486601/?type=2&theater

[cavaricooper]

Ted-

How's the old gal coming along?

Best- Carl

[TuFun]

Manfred is having difficulties getting gmax to work under Windows 10 (new replacement computer).

[cavaricooper]

Manfred is having difficulties getting gmax to work under Windows 10 (new replacement computer).

Ick! Very happy I built my latest sim rig with W7 Pro x64. Best wishes for a speedy recovery!

C

[TuFun]

Ick! Very happy I built my latest sim rig with W7 Pro x64. Best wishes for a speedy recovery!

C

One note though is we have DR models since Manfred has recently moved to P3Dv.3.

Most of us on the team are using that sim now.

[gman5250]

Manfred is having difficulties getting gmax to work under Windows 10 (new replacement computer).

That is a nightmare. I've still not been able to get it working efficiently.

By the way Ted, this work is absolutely magnificent. I've been watching your progress from afar, and flying the betas.
Your bump work is showing a pure love for detail.

:very_drunk::very_drunk::very_drunk:

[Bjoern]

GMax and Win 10 sadly don't mix well.

[TuFun]

Thought I would post some pics, while all the other stuff that being done, to which I have no experience in such as the coding, DD sound gauge update to 64 bit, etc. Lot of us are excited about P3Dv.4!!!

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l40/TwFun/STUFF/x2_zpssfmcnewn.jpg~original

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l40/TwFun/STUFF/TW-10a_zps0lzhr1bx.jpg~original

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l40/TwFun/STUFF/TW-9a_zps5o1lpavk.jpg~original

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l40/TwFun/STUFF/TW-7a_zps7qa7khc7.jpg~original

[cavaricooper]

Ted- you are a TEASE!!!

STUNNING MATE!

C

[TuFun]

Just wanted to make sure the project is still alive with updates. I don't have a timeline when Manfred will have the next beta or final C-47 is released.

This model was not intended to be detailed like this, but hey... wanted see how far this will go and it's on my free time. The radial soundset was all I'm responsible for. Thanks to Manfred for tweaking model as you can see here. Not possible on the current model.



http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l40/TwFun/STUFF/n3_zpsyxueeycu.jpg~original

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l40/TwFun/STUFF/n1_zpsifbythuq.jpg~original

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l40/TwFun/STUFF/n2_zps0rai6cqr.jpg~original

[cavaricooper]

Ted-

If you decide to grace the paint-kit with your detail, this bit of freeware will again raise the bar for the standard.... absolutely superlative mate. A fitting addition to a splendid development project. The entire team is to be commended, and your work just adds the final piece de resistance to the package.

C

[TuFun]

Updated the nose cone...

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l40/TwFun/STUFF/n4_zpsgpueg1hh.jpg~original

[TuFun]

Better rendition of the nose cone (left side). Bump the brackets (black) and overlapped the top half of the cone over the fuselage. Finish up the right side and that's it for now, until I have more free time.

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/06/10/n5.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/06/10/n6.jpg

[Javis]

:jawdrop: --------------------:dizzy: ---------------------:applause:


Just speechless, Ted ! :jump:

Cheers,
Jan

[TuFun]

Hey Jan... wished you still had that Canary Bird still.

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/06/10/n7.jpg

[jankees]

I agree with Jan, just stunning.....

[Javis]

Hey Jan... wished you still had that Canary Bird still.




Still have that Yellow Peril here, Ted, load it up in Max every once in a while. There's still a chance that the dev that asked for the source file will come up with something...Or i might finish it myself someday..

[TuFun]

Still have that Yellow Peril here, Ted, load it up in Max every once in a while. There's still a chance that the dev that asked for the source file will come up with something...Or i might finish it myself someday..

It's been how many years now, I think I know who the dev is. Haven't seen him here in quite awhile.

Overlapping panels experiment... bumpity bump bump on top of bumps!

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l40/TwFun/STUFF/Bump1_zpseyi7ykpc.jpg~original

[TuFun]

These will be my last shots in FSX-SE... time to move on to the 64 bit bandwagon!!!

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l40/TwFun/STUFF/T4_zps62o8u1up.jpg~original

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l40/TwFun/STUFF/T5_zps9tfn0txb.jpg~original

[jankees]

just lovely...

[TuFun]

just lovely...

Thanks, dropping it off to Manfred next weekend. Hopefully will be in the next update?

Oh, one more thing... cowl line has the proper right angle (curve) now.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l40/TwFun/STUFF/T6_zpsgqla4phk.jpg~original

[cavaricooper]

Ted-

Wonderful... as a v4 user from day one, I am glad to read of your transfer to this current platform.... I can't wait (ok, I can- but she's even lovelier with your touch)!

C

[TuFun]

Here's some recent shots...

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/10/10/M1-100917.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/10/10/M3-100917.jpg

[gaab]

Can't wait (more...)

Beautiful :applause:

Gérard

[Roger]

Wow!:ernaehrung004:

[speedy70]

Ted as a poverty stricken 80 year old pensioner will you still be uploading an fsxa version.

Cheers Chris

[cavaricooper]

Ted-

Haven't wanted to be pushy.. but do want to remind you that I am still salivating....

Looks fantastic!

Best- C

[TuFun]

Ted as a poverty stricken 80 year old pensioner will you still be uploading an fsxa version.

Cheers Chris

I hear ya Chris, those shots were taken in FSX-SE. DDW C-47 is still ongoing wip project.

[TuFun]

Ted-

Haven't wanted to be pushy.. but do want to remind you that I am still salivating....

Looks fantastic!

Best- C

Looks pretty don't it!!! :adoration:

[TuFun]

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/10/10/M5-100917.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/10/10/M6-100917.jpg

[cavaricooper]

Oooooh, lovely!! She will be even lovelier in 4.1 today :)

C

[TuFun]

Got an email this morning from the guys at Multi Pilot Simulations (MPS), letting me know that their video is out!


https://vimeo.com/237079240

Today's pics, some subtle changes....

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/10/11/M1-101017.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/10/11/M2-101071.jpg

[TuFun]

Oooooh, lovely!! She will be even lovelier in 4.1 today :)

C

Awaiting new model parts from either Manfred or Jan so I can continue on repairs! :biggrin-new: The next beta parts have not arrived. My wrenches are waiting to do it's work. Seriously model creations take years to develop it seems. Just look around the forums and see all what is being developed still.

Top Secret stuff is still going on in the DDW hangar.

[cavaricooper]

Yay!! She gets better and better....

C

[Javis]

Got an email this morning from the guys at Multi Pilot Simulations (MPS), letting me know that their video is out!


https://vimeo.com/237079240



Me too, Ted. Great isn't it ! Atleast *something* good got out of that horrible mistake !

@ anybody : Check out sequence 1:08 - 1:15. Do you notice anything out of the ordinary in that shot ?

Cheers,
Jan

[511Flyer]

The aircraft is looking good, but not sure about the pilot. I assume that it would be flown by RAF crews, wearing RAF uniforms? That guy appears to be wearing a baseball cap. Very American.

Den.

[mgr]

Hoi Jan,



@ anybody : Check out sequence 1:08 - 1:15. Do you notice anything out of the ordinary in that shot ?


Looks like a FSX (flightsim) shot... (Air France livery) :-)

Marcel

[cavaricooper]

Video is at- https://vimeo.com/237079240

Are we any closer to being able to drool in person Ted?

;)

C

[TuFun]

The aircraft is looking good, but not sure about the pilot. I assume that it would be flown by RAF crews, wearing RAF uniforms? That guy appears to be wearing a baseball cap. Very American.

Den.

Yes, defiantly need WW2 crew. Will see... I hope. It's one of things I put on the teams list of features.

[TuFun]

Hoi Jan,



Looks like a FSX (flightsim) shot... (Air France livery) :-)

Marcel

Yes its FSX with MAAM C-47 Air France repainted for the movie "Broken Dreams" documentary. Provided the team with vintage film (FSX) recording and Air France DC-3 artwork for the "Broken Dreams" book.

It was fun working with Suzanne van Leendert!

Also provided the background image for Suzanne.

http://www.brokendreams.eu/documentary/

[TuFun]

Me too, Ted. Great isn't it ! Atleast *something* good got out of that horrible mistake !

@ anybody : Check out sequence 1:08 - 1:15. Do you notice anything out of the ordinary in that shot ?

Cheers,
Jan

Yep, reminds me to fire off an email to Suzanne, see what's up!

[TuFun]

Booties!!!

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/10/12/M1-101117.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/10/12/M2-101117.jpg

[cavaricooper]

The second shot is perfection itself.....

C

[TuFun]

Looking at some photos the roundel needs to be adjusted, although not in these pics.

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/10/14/M1-101317.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/10/14/M2-101317.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/10/14/M3-101317.jpg

[mgr]

Hiya,


Looking at some photos the roundel needs to be adjusted, although not in these pics.


Check this one out, by Proplinerman at Flickr. Fear the flags need to be adjusted a little (tiny) bit as well.:engel016: :very_drunk:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/48975048@N06/5465124780/sizes/l

Marcel

PS
Another one, sadly in very low resolution:
http://images.memorix.nl/nda/thumb/620x620/73747226-5b6f-0c2b-7491-d47ff7171382.jpg

[TuFun]

That maybe different aircraft since Monty's had windows in the cargo doors. He did use about three different aircraft. The link pic is of an early roundel and
the tail markings too.

https://images.britishpathe.com/?id=68110&num=39&size=still

I just need to move the roundel over more closer to the door hinges. The "K" is different, so that will be changed.

https://images.britishpathe.com/?id=68110&num=43&size=still

Diffidently need to fix the tail rivets and decals. Also the pictures is at an angle, was using the rivet pattern to measure the decals.

https://images.britishpathe.com/?id=68110&num=44&size=still

https://images.britishpathe.com/?id=68110&num=37&size=still

[TuFun]

FM Montgomery also use this one (backup) C-47 KN 645. Notice the doors... passenger door on the rear cargo door.

VIP aircraft are kept in excellent condition!

http://www.nationalcoldwarexhibition.org/images/collections/aircraftondisplay/douglas-dakota/p037172_l.jpg

[TuFun]

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/10/16/M1-101517.jpg

Matching the photo angle...

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/10/16/M2-101517.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/10/16/M3-101517.jpg

[cavaricooper]

Ted-

YOU'RE KILLING ME (softly).... brilliant mate, looking forward to her.

Ta- C

[VesaJuhani]

TuFun, you are a magician! There is only one tiny detail that sticks to my eyes every time, when I am looking at this magnificent bird.
I apologize every person who accounts me as some kind of "those damned rivet counters" and who wants only find issues from
a perfect work. But I find, there will never be such a work, which could not be even better. And now to the point!
Although this modell is nearly perfect and the BEST freeware by far, there is (in my mind) one detail which is wrong. Sorry if
the word sounds harsh and my intension is not in any way to insult anybody and especially Manfred Jahn, who has created
the external lines of this simulated plane. But, after seen Javis´s latest video (in the location 0:59), I dare to claim that the nose profile is little bit to
convex. More closely, the upper part of the cone starts sloping immediately in the point ahead the windshield. Same thing with the cross-section of the cone, which should have more
rounded upper half especially in the point where the vertical rivet line meets the windshield and naturally ahead. These arguments are easely seen in the video, especially in the b/w-picture taken of the
production line. In other words, the cone should be more pointy. What I have said, might feel hairsplitting, but I allege, that
those mentioned details have a very essential influence for the look of this gem.
I dared to write all this, because the plane deserves it!

[VesaJuhani]

The video I was talking about was submitted by Javis and was concerning the Multi Pilot Simulation´s new DC-3 simulator.
And the mentioned foto can be seen in the location 0:59.
Sorry for the confusion!

[TuFun]

Good point, you may want to PM Javis on thoughts about this.

Here's that photo...

https://media.defense.gov/2017/Jan/04/2001683914/-1/-1/0/170101-F-ZZ999-028.JPG

[TuFun]

Short video of Manfred/Jan DDW C-47 Beta ?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ptu-_hJVtR8

[Javis]

Good point, you may want to PM Javis on thoughts about this.


Nah, please don't..... bound to be an endless discussion that leads to nowhere.

@ VesaJuhani :

Is Rembrandt's Nightwatch perfect ?.... Many art historians claim it's not. Is it a masterpiece ? Every art historian will tell you it is. One of the most famous oil paintings in the world. Would it be a sensible idea to try and do away with the claimed imperfections ? Of course not !!

The nose section of an aircraft is usually one of the most difficult objects to model. From my own experience i can say that's especially true for the C-47/DC-3. And in my FS Dakota book i'd say Manfred's rendition of a C-47/DC-3 nose section deserves a master's degree.

That's why i wouldn't even start thinking about going to mess about with it. And i'm about 99% sure Manfred wouldn't either. I mean, why ???....

Maybe, just maybe, another dev will have a go at a C-47/DC-3 model in the near future. I can only wish them the best of luck to try and match the beauty of Manfred's model, let alone try to surpass it.

I mean, just page thru the screenshots Tufun posted above. Can it get any better ?.... I don't think so !

Sorry, VJ, with all due respect but personally i don't think there's anything wrong with the nose section. It's deffinately the one thing that it's supposed to simulate conform the real nose : It's cute ! :smile:

http://sectionf8.com/f86files/mj_dc3vc/n5.jpg

Cheers,
jan

[TuFun]

No doubt Manfred did an awesome job and hasn't this model been around for years. Also I want to thank Gordon Leith of the RAF Museum for details and articles on Monty's C-47.

Also this one rendition of "OKLAHOMA GAL" for Dave at Pacific Dakota Restorations. He is restoring her to fly status and when he gets her painted I can update this rendition.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l40/TwFun/Projects/O1-101717_zpsvark8otu.jpg~original

Many years ago...

http://www.warbirdsonline.com.au/warbirds/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Douglas-Dakota-C47A-43-48234-at-Wangaratta-2004.jpg

No cowl flaps!

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Q52_a6-UQE0/VwmyDb1WiwI/AAAAAAAAt0Y/chcDGtcbLGwHgOr5suAQYBNFXu1uhP_ww/s1600/20-Oklahoma%2BGal%2Bnose%2Bcone%2B%25281024x683%2529. jpg

Today...

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Z5U2FiwbsV4/VJEp8_W-yDI/AAAAAAAAvDI/xgx1gKUQKIw/s1600/IMG_5417.JPG

[VesaJuhani]

Javis

Thank you for your comment!
I can completely understand your comprehensive arguments and will happily continue flying with this magnificent creation.
There is only one thing, I must disagree with you and that is: the nose profile is not completely perfect like nothing else
made by a human being! I only wanted to hear, is it possible and reasonable to try to improve it before the final release.
I wish all the best for the project in the future and yourself as well!
For my part the case is closed.

Cheers to you too!
Vesa

[Javis]

the nose profile is not completely perfect like nothing else
made by a human being!

Right you are ! And i dare say stuff made by Mother Nature isn't always perfect neither, is it .. I mean, why does she make us loose our hair ? Why does she make us go to the dentist ? Why does she make us fat if we eat carbohydrates ? Why did she create Frans Bauer ? The list is endless...

Perfection what we seek it is not, young padawan, appreciation of the ingenuous integrity of natural and virtual objects and processes it is.


I wish all the best for the project in the future and yourself as well!

Thank you, Vesa.


For my part the case is closed.

Good! :smile:

Cheers,
Jan
FOL

[511Flyer]

:applause:

[Heukie]

Why did she create Frans Bauer ?


:biggrin-new::biggrin-new::biggrin-new::biggrin-new:

[TuFun]

More skin enhancements... panel lines, hazing, metal warping, and scratches effected by lighting.

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/11/06/M1-110517.jpg http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/11/06/M2-110517.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/11/06/M3-110517.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/11/03/M5-110217.jpg

[mgr]

Hiya,


More skin enhancements... panel lines, hazing, metal warping, and scratches effected by lighting.


Looking beautiful!!!!

Wishfully thinking: will there be a paintkit with these enhancements?

Kind regards,

Marcel

[TuFun]

Hiya,



Looking beautiful!!!!

Wishfully thinking: will there be a paintkit with these enhancements?

Kind regards,

Marcel

I think I can put one together once the final version is finalized.

It's been quiet on the development side, all I can do is wait just like rest of you guys.
In the meantime I can try different stuff in Photoshop.

[TuFun]

Gordon Leith
Curator
Archive & Library
RAF Museum


Sent this article when researching this bird.

Article from the "The Royal Air Force Review"


October 1948 Vol. 4 No. 3 of "The Royal Air Force Review"


On the ground, as in the air, the same high standards are the rule, and the crews are among the Air Force's best tradesmen. They are particularly proud of their aircraft and the hand-polishing is just an outward manifestation of the pride. It may be wearying work, polishing the entire fabric of an aircraft with metal polish and a handful of rag, but it is done by hand because machine buffing would gradually thin down the heads of the aluminum rivets. And, when there are not enough ground crew to do the work, the aircrews themselves take time off from their training and lend a hand. The results: a No. 24 Squadron aircraft stands out on the airfield like an "export only" job...


But exterior glitter is not the only thing that makes them exceptional. Many are "special" inside as well.The Chief of Air Staff Dakota is said to be one of the world's most luxurious aircraft. Its floors are carpeted, its fuselage paneled in walnut and lined overhead with cream pigskin. Its soft amber interior lights are built-in and have push-button switches for each. Five swiveling armchairs upholstered in brown leather, two settees which can be converted into bunks for night flying, and two small cream leather-covered stools complete the seating accommodation. A Concealed radio set provides soft music (the engines are barely audible in the main cabin) and an altimeter, airspeed indicator and clock over the door.


As for Field Marshal Montgomery's aircraft, he designed the interior himself with the same workmanship and finish as described above, but has neither bunks nor galley. He rarely sleeps or takes meals in the air, but spends most of his time reading and writing.

[TuFun]

Hiya,



Looking beautiful!!!!

Wishfully thinking: will there be a paintkit with these enhancements?

Kind regards,

Marcel

Just to let you know, paintkit in the making... basic skinny version seen here. Getting ready when final C-47 project is released.

FSX-SE Natural metal

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/11/09/M1-110817.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/11/09/M2-110817.jpg
http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/11/09/M3-110817.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/11/09/M4-110817.jpg

[mgr]

Just to let you know, paintkit in the making... basic skinny version seen here. Getting ready when final C-47 project is released.

FSX-SE Natural metal



:jump: Thanks a lot.

Marcel

[RjSchreiber63]

Great looking pics!! With visuals like that, I can't wait to see the Final.....:applause:

[TuFun]

Testing blend option (stroke) methods on rivets...

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/11/17/M-4111617.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/11/19/M-1111817.jpg

[txnetcop]

Ted that is soooooooooo absolutely fantastic:applause::applause::applause:

[TuFun]

Ted that is soooooooooo absolutely fantastic:applause::applause::applause:

Thanks... makes for some very good pop rivets and for the first image one can make nice flat rivets with a few changes (not shown).

Not to mention getting rid of the old FS9 style rivets... old habits. :biggrin-new:

[Duckie]

Pick a superlative, Ted, any superlative! Pick more than one! They all apply. :biggrin-new: :encouragement::encouragement:

[blanston12]

Very impressive, don't work to hard, you could go blind working on all those rivets!

[TuFun]

Pick a superlative, Ted, any superlative! Pick more than one! They all apply. :biggrin-new: :encouragement::encouragement:

Thanks Duckie... much respect to you also!!! Beautiful work on the B-26 military skins!

As for all those little tools in CS6 I've never tried, well lets see what this does. The fx features are awesome!

Also those guys over at War Thunder gave some insight on some of this stuff too. Big plus and inspiration!

Mr. Raccoon (brodyaga_enot)... some of his work...

https://cdn-live.warthunder.com/uploads/da/b5214a89010f6403f9a10ad68f230e5fb3ee37/shot+2016.01.13+01.07.49.jpg

https://cdn-live.warthunder.com/uploads/2b/b461afacbd618b04bb35c9a6e6b4a073ba32a4/shot+2016.01.11+22.07.23.jpg


(https://cdn-live.warthunder.com/uploads/2b/b461afacbd618b04bb35c9a6e6b4a073ba32a4/shot+2016.01.11+22.07.23.jpg)

[TuFun]

Very impressive, don't work to hard, you could go blind working on all those rivets!

My mouse...err... rivet gun has been acting up lately! :biggrin-new: Shades are also a requirement.

[manfredc3]

Ted, where the heck do you find the patience for this work.

You just never stop to amaze us with your results.

[TuFun]

Ted, where the heck do you find the patience for this work.

You just never stop to amaze us with your results.

Manfred/Jan C-47 project is still in development as far as I know, so I still have nothing to do but work on textures and learn to use cool features Photoshop has to offer. Haven't even started using Illustrator just yet. Something for me to look forward to next year.

[TuFun]

Ted that is soooooooooo absolutely fantastic:applause::applause::applause:

Have you flown the Xplane version? Flown it for awhile but not the current update. Sounds need to be improved though on their end.
Jan's cockpit look pretty good in Xplane!

[jankees]

Ted, your work looks just amazing, but so do those warthunder shots I must say.

[txnetcop]

Have you flown the Xplane version? Flown it for awhile but not the current update. Sounds need to be improved though on their end.
Jan's cockpit look pretty good in Xplane!

Yes, fantastic to have it in X-Plane!

[TuFun]

Did a flight today in Xplane...

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/11/20/awxdc3_3.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/11/20/awxdc3_2.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/11/20/awxdc3_1.jpg

[TuFun]

Ted, your work looks just amazing, but so do those warthunder shots I must say.

Thanks jankees... used many of your awesome repaints on video projects in the past like the B-17, Mustang formation videos!

[TuFun]

All rivets updated (left side), cowl has flush rivets, etc...

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/11/24/M-1112317.jpg

Standard gas caps and top rivets in the works... no hamster **** rivets. :biggrin-new:

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/11/24/M-2112317.jpg

Glass and horn sheet metal/screws...

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/11/24/M-3112317.jpg

[cavaricooper]

Absolutely beautiful.... so looking forward to this... the “piece de resistance” for the Jahn, Visser et al masterpiece.

Best- C

[vortex]

This really is a work of art! Every time you post new images I think that it can't get any better but it does. How close to complete do you think it is?

[TuFun]

This really is a work of art! Every time you post new images I think that it can't get any better but it does. How close to complete do you think it is?

Thanks "C" and as far as when, I checked the developers forum and no announcements yet on a release date. I'm using a FSX test model at the moment.

Got the chalk out and drew this on the chalkboard...

... right side forward fuselage.

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=55912&stc=1

[TuFun]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAca8X351zk&feature=youtu.be

[jankees]

I'm sure it's a fantastic video, Ted, but I can't see it?

I just noticed something else: in the detailed side view you show in post #202, the panel lines seem a bit too grey to me. If I look at detailed images of DC-3/C-47's around the world, the panel lines are actually quite sharp, dark and well pronounced on the bare metal ones,
like this one:
http://media.spokesman.com/photos/2012/09/07/cit07_srx_dc-3.jpg
or this one
https://planefinder.net/images/5983902:Photo:1414117.jpg

while on painted aircraft, they become more vague as in your skin, like here:
http://www.airplanegeeks.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/tabitha_may.png

maybe something to look at?

[ftl818]

[QUOTE=TuFun;1113011]Did a flight today in Xplane...

Do you see the pilots from the outside? I think the C47_pilot.png as indicated in the obj file is missing?


Paul

[TuFun]

[QUOTE=TuFun;1113011]Did a flight today in Xplane...

Do you see the pilots from the outside? I think the C47_pilot.png as indicated in the obj file is missing?


Paul

I have the missing crew also. Haven't gone through the Aeroworx Douglas (Manfred) C-47 to see if any fix is in the works.
Not doing any textures for their version.

[TuFun]

I'm sure it's a fantastic video, Ted, but I can't see it?

I just noticed something else: in the detailed side view you show in post #202, the panel lines seem a bit too grey to me. I

No problem with the lines, adjustable if need be. One example on this one is the lines are almost not visible. Similar to what I've done.

http://data3.primeportal.net/hangar/mikael_bowellan/dc-3_finnish/images/dc-3_finnish_07_of_28.jpg

http://data3.primeportal.net/hangar/mikael_bowellan/dc-3_finnish/images/dc-3_finnish_25_of_28.jpg

(http://data3.primeportal.net/hangar/mikael_bowellan/dc-3_finnish/images/dc-3_finnish_25_of_28.jpg)
By all means that is an exceptional example, most are as you say are darker from grunge, dirt, etc.

Lines set to 100%, no alphas, no bumps....

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/12/01/M-1113017.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/12/01/M-2113017.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/12/01/M-3113017.jpg

http://www.fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2017/12/01/M-4113017.jpg

[BendyFlyer]

Still awaiting this one to fly. Followed the thread about the paint with fascination.

[MZee1960]

+1 :applause:

[blanston12]

+2 :jump::wiggle:

[mgr]

+3 :very_drunk::very_drunk::very_drunk:

[511Flyer]

It's gone very quiet.

Den.

[Pere]

un trabajo espectacular de paciencia, dedicación y placer por un trabajo bien hecho, ¿hay una fecha de lanzamiento? Por cierto, también he visto que en las fotos de la cabina en Xplane el piloto automático no lleva la etiqueta inop, significa que puede tenerlo en p3d v4?, muchas gracias por sus respuestas

[MZee1960]

It's gone very quiet.

Den.

Very quiet, indeed ......... :(

[blanston12]

Very quiet, indeed ......... :(

Almost,,,,

Too quiet....

:suspicion:

[MZee1960]

Almost,,,,

Too quiet....

:suspicion:

Hopefully updates will come soon on this wonderful project. :nature-smiley-003:

[MZee1960]

Does anyone have an update on this great project ?

[gaab]

Does anyone have an update on this great project ?

Still hoping to see it appear sometime ...
Gérard

[cavaricooper]

Ted-

I've been salivating over the thought of this paint for quite some time now... could you please provide an update? I find it easier to curb my impatience with injections of information ;)

Ta-

Carl

[TuFun]

Due to a computer failure in December it was not worth it to fix or upgrade. Using a netbook to go online for now. Useless for PS/Quixel or running FSX.

I'm looking to build a new system with one of those 9900k or 9700k processors around the end of the year or early next year. Hoping the reviews are good.

Also looking to pick up one of those Nvidia RTX cards when P3Dv5 is released.

Sorry to see most of my pics are missing, that's due to www.fsfiles.org (http://www.fsfiles.org) hack.

[cavaricooper]

Ted-

Sorry to hear, but it sounds like you will have a great new system... will await Monty’s steed then.

Best- C

[TuFun]

It's been a nice break really. Was to busy with work and all. I retired a few weeks ago and was kinda frustrating not being busy, but now I've settle in and enjoying the time.

Oh, can't wait to see the review on the PMDG 747-8.

Video posted today.

https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/542261-22sep18-fantastic-video-preview-of-pmdg-747-8/

[Taco]

Hey TuFun, Hehe, it seemed I worked harder after retiring than when I worked. I found that the biggest thing is to keep active both body and brains. Enjoy it, :very_drunk:

[TuFun]

Hey Taco, it's just getting into a new rhythm that's all. :biggrin-new: Have lots of plans in the future (computer) and conservative body building routine.

Also spending time studying with video instructions on the latest in textures (PBR, V-ray, etc.).

* Bad word these days! :dizzy: Certain language at work these days are not permissible. Glad I retired in time.

[cavaricooper]

It's been a nice break really. Was to busy with work and all. I retired a few weeks ago and was kinda frustrating not being busy, but now I've settle in and enjoying the time.

Oh, can't wait to see the review on the PMDG 747-8.

Video posted today.

https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/542261-22sep18-fantastic-video-preview-of-pmdg-747-8/

Good for you- now live long enough to make it all worth while.

I'm pretty sure that if that sort of thing is your cup of tea... you will enjoy the new release :)

C

[TuFun]

You know it's funny, I don't own any of their products. I'm more interested in their technical reviews. Coding is probably the most mysteries thing done in modeling and they do some of the best stuff. Same with A2A birds!

Now if they did a 707, which I have the CS version and the only jet airliner, then that would be the one.

[speedy70]

Is your Monty's Repaint ever going to be released?

Cheers Chris

[TuFun]

This one is available for Manfred's current model.

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php/102456-TW-C-47-v3-Monty-s-KN628-(1946)-zip

[cavaricooper]

This one is available for Manfred's current model.

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php/102456-TW-C-47-v3-Monty-s-KN628-(1946)-zip

Ted- Installing now, ta! The only change that seemed necessary was that I changed "sim=Douglas_DC3_v1.4" to "sim=Douglas_DC3_v1.5" in the .cfg. That done I was able to load, and here we are at London City, preparing for a Kestrel Flight. Many thanks, I shall enjoy this in Prepar3d v4.3, methinks :)

https://i.imgur.com/JEtmjTH.jpg

C

[cavaricooper]

Ted-

Hope this finds you well? With PBR out now (admittedly for P3D v4.4), any chance you'd be interested in working on this one again? CAN YOU IMAGINE her in sunlight???

https://i.imgur.com/Ua0T1eR.jpg

She's much to grand to get left behind mate!

Ta- C

[TuFun]

Ted-

Hope this finds you well? With PBR out now (admittedly for P3D v4.4), any chance you'd be interested in working on this one again? CAN YOU IMAGINE her in sunlight???

Ta- C

It's in constant development among other works in progress. Here are some development testing I'm doing on Digital Dakota Works (Manfred/Visser) C-47. No ETA.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7801/47292717422_0cfcb30b5f_o.jpg

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7823/46531320804_d575ecaa81_o.jpg

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7818/46368166625_998ff1b9a2_o.jpg

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7863/46430397085_a2086b017a_o.jpg

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7874/47303375141_ef9742068d_o.jpg

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7851/47292719042_dee78b3519_o.jpg

[cavaricooper]

Ted-

Salivating at the thought of all the aluminum in P3d - she promises to be stunning. Thanks for the peek inside, will wait until you are ready to share.

Ta- C

[TuFun]

Ted-

Salivating at the thought of all the aluminum in P3d - she promises to be stunning. Thanks for the peek inside, will wait until you are ready to share.

Ta- C

BluePrint is easier for me to see errors and for testing purposes.



Excellent video of a shiny DC-3 for study that I'm using.

https://vimeo.com/320808833

And check this huge RC C-47 build. Hover over some of the pics will give you arrows to see more.

http://chrismeme11.over-blog.com/pages/DU_COTE_DES_ATELIERS_DES_AMIS-1637135.html

http://a52.idata.over-blog.com/600x400/2/70/46/36/Cote-des-ateliers/C47-Eric-3K/C47-suite/2014_04_08--1---1024x768-.JPG
(http://chrismeme11.over-blog.com/pages/DU_COTE_DES_ATELIERS_DES_AMIS-1637135.html)

[cavaricooper]

Ted-

You TEASE! I wait in anticipation...

C

[TuFun]

Ted-

You TEASE! I wait in anticipation...

C

What you are seeing in detail now can't be done on the current model. I've done a total rework of the details this year.

If you want PBR then I think that the P3Dv4.4 SDK need to be used. That will be up to Manfred or Jan.

For now, I see no reason to go with P3Dv4. Maybe P3Dv5 will impress me.... maybe.

[cavaricooper]

Ted-

In another thread Jan mentions reworking the model into a DC-3. Perhaps then would be the time to make the move? Regardless, you have my attention :)

C

[TuFun]

I have mocked up a DC-3 with doors on the starboard side. Jan's focus is on the Convair for now and the DC-3 is on hold. A new pattern will have to be created for a DC-3.

[TuFun]

Another good example of shiny!

https://planefinder.net/images/5983902:Photo:544187.jpg

Larger pic here. https://planefinder.net/images/5983902:Photo:544187.jpg