F-80 redux released

[Mach3DS]

The bird is up here at SOH! Thanks to Willy Henk and Toby for putting up with me on this project! See Readme for complete credits. Update of the now freeware AlphaSim F-80.

FSXA, FSXSE P3D compatible. TACPACK integrated with model limitations.

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/soh_ftp/uploads/imageuploads/993614721459627100.jpg

[Willy]

And while it's nice to have, you don't have to have Tacpack to fly it! (Just thought I'd add that bit)

And thanks to Rick, Henk & Toby as well. They've done a great job!!

[FooFighter7]

Love it! The only problem I've found is on the "Factory New" texture. Under the left flap it appears to be solid white. Maybe a problem with the alpha channel? Other than that this is a great update of an old classic. Well worth the download:jump:

[Mach3DS]

Love it! The only problem I've found is on the "Factory New" texture. Under the left flap it appears to be solid white. Maybe a problem with the alpha channel? Other than that this is a great update of an old classic. Well worth the download:jump:

I found that issue last night...but had to work early and couldn't fix it in time...forgot about it when I left for work. it's a mirrored Specular texture. So you can do one of 2 things. make a copy of the opposite side specular and rename to the left side texture. Or you can use the speculars from the bare metal scheme (all of them). Those are the ones I'm using...but that's just my preference. Willy's are fantastic as is. I'm actually working on combining his with mine into a hybrid version...(evil cackle)
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[Stickshaker]

From the earlier thread it is clear how much effort you put into this. Thank you for this classic bird!<o:p></o:p>

[alain0568]

Hello,


Great job!:applause:
I just love it!
Thank you very much!


Alain
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[Mach3DS]

Willy has sent me his paint kit. He did most of the work on the updated paints. I set out the materials for the model (what reflects, shines, fresnel) which Henk implemented (Thanks Henk!!) and I created the bare metel schemes and the alpha and speculars for those. So I don't want to take the credit for this. That was my part...and testing it.... I'm going to add what I did for the bare metal to his paint kit, and then I'm making it a bit more friendly to work in. Hopefully you'll be able to use it! I will upload it today or tomorrow (likely). It's 4096x4096. I suggest saving the .dds files at that size and then resizing them to 2048x2048 for better performance in sim. Hope you all enjoy this bird!

Edit: Just a quick note about thelse old Alpha models...at least from my experience. The UV map doesn't exactly match up to where the texture is being read from. So to be safe color exactly where the visible painted areas are for best results. There will be trial and error for sure!

[WarHorse47]

Well done. Beautiful.

Thanks to all for bringing this bird back to FSX.

Cheers :very_drunk:

[mig21bis]

It was surprising to see how far forward Rick, Henk and Willy we were able to take this old model in terms of model/materials/visual appeal. Makes me both excited and tired at the same time to think of how many great models we could revisit in this way.

For example, maybe after a rest, I'd love to see what we could do for Piglet's beautiful old T-33. Adding the new visual appeal to his masterpiece would be a great way to pay tribute.

[Flyboy208]

Well done to all involved ... she flies, and looks great ! BTW Stellar screenshot Rick with the lightning in the background. Mike :applause:

[Jafo]

Yay....new toys....always like new toys...;)

[Willy]

We didn't have room for all the paints that were done, so I've uploaded the ones I did and they're available now.

I've got more in the pipeline. These were just the ones I did while waiting for the release.

22FS Berlin Airlift 1948
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=42339&stc=1

Acrojet Demonstration Team
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=42340&stc=1

Baby Doll II Korea 1952
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=42341&stc=1

Gentleman Jim 1946 (what if)
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=42342&stc=1

[Mach3DS]

Very nice Willy!!! You're holding out on us! ha ha ha... :dizzy: :applause: I can't believe how great this old bird looks with a spit polish!

[manfredc3]

Paints are looking very nice, but I have not been able to find the actual aircraft in the library. What am I missing here?

[Flyboy208]

Download here ... http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?catid=38&linkid=21786 Mike :wavey:

[Willy]

The other "what if" P-80 that's now available.

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=42349&stc=1

[dvj]

This is excellent. :very_drunk::very_drunk::very_drunk: The bare metal textures look a bit different than the painted versions. I like the different aluminum staining. Are you planning any paints on those textures?

http://fsfiles.org/flightsimshotsv2/images/2016/08/26/f-80baremetal.jpg

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[Mach3DS]

This is excellent. :very_drunk::very_drunk::very_drunk: The bare metal textures look a bit different than the painted versions. I like the different aluminum staining. Are you planning any paints on those textures?

d

I have one in the works dvj. ;) 61st FS MI summer 1948.

If you go to the texture redux thread a little ways down the page it's on the last page....anot early progress shot.

If you want to add a little more "umff" to the current skins you can always try copying overy the specular textures from the bare metal paint to any of the painted ones. They won't be custom but they might work for you. I personally have done that. Please remember to save the originals in case you don't like how it turns out! Preference is a very finicky proposition!

[Pips]

Luv the early Jets, lose interest after the 60's. :)

And this one with it's new liveries is just superb.

[alain0568]

Hello,

-I Used some gauges SF8_F86, which seem to me more beautiful than those of Alphasim!
Here are some pictures:

http://i35.servimg.com/u/f35/11/39/89/45/pit_f-10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/view/11398945/1582)


http://i35.servimg.com/u/f35/11/39/89/45/pit_f-11.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/view/11398945/1583)


Alain

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[txnetcop]

Willy you have outdone yourself...you are now a steely-eyed FIRST CLASS painter!
Ted

Nice Gauge setup Alain!

[manfredc3]

Thanks for the link Mike.

Had seen that name, but thought it was another repaint.

Downloading now. Will give it a go over the weekend :jump:

[Mach3DS]

I have one in the works dvj. ;) 61st FS MI summer 1948.

If you go to the texture redux thread a little ways down the page it's on the last page....anot early progress shot.

If you want to add a little more "umff" to the current skins you can always try copying overy the specular textures from the bare metal paint to any of the painted ones. They won't be custom but they might work for you. I personally have done that. Please remember to save the originals in case you don't like how it turns out! Preference is a very finicky proposition!

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8065/29083351572_dcff263580_o.jpg

[Willy]

The paints that I've done have been using Rick's speculars as I felt the paints had a better appearance with his rather than the ones I did for them.

Nice panel work Alain. I've did a few changes in that department myself using other gauges. Here's mine

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=42368&stc=1

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=42369&stc=1

I used gauges from various sources on this. Mostly just setting it up for the way I like to fly.

[Willy]

Started on this one this morning. Still have a bit to do (minor things like wings, tail, etc)

[Sundog]

OMW to get it. Thanks to the team for all of the hard work they put into this update. :)

[Mach3DS]

The Paint kit is ready.

Some basic info:

1. Photoshop CC 2015 was used to organize the layers into groups color coded and labeled identically for each PSD file. So if you're using another program sorry, that information and grouping might be lost...I just don't know. Also, Blending options are required for certain layers.
2. A basic knowledge of how to use Photoshop is required.
3. Texture_1 is the main fuse and set at 4096. The rest are 2048. If you want a good size, keep the the main fuse at 4096. If you're getting performance issues, scale the size down on the completed texture to 2048.
4. Enjoy!

I'm going to try and upload the Paint Kit right now. It's uncompressed at ~669mb compressed in .rar format using best compression at ~283mb.

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=33&id=21795

-Rick

[Mach3DS]

I neglected to mention that the F-80C has a slightly different set of panel lines/rivets. Willy created a separate set during the renovation, I didn't want to make the main kit more cumbersome, so it is included as a stand alone file. Feel free to bring layers over. However, I believe the whole PSD file will need to be resized from 2048 to 4096...I can't remember! You can then bring over to the main paint kit any of the layers you wish. They should be fairly similar in organization.

[Willy]

F-80C FT-650 "Saggin' Dragon" is up in the library. Think I'll do another red one next.

[hschuit]

Willy, thanks for the Saggin' Dragon, you just painted one of my favorite Korean war F-80's :applause:

[Willy]

Thanks Henk, that one's a classic that there was no way I was not going to do.

For some silly unknown reason, I saved a lot of what I used to do a series of F-80 paints last year. That stuff is very useful now.

Strip n Stare, Panther Queen, Salty Dog, Lil Dottie and some very early P-80As are in the paint booth now.

[mig21bis]

Here's some video of Rick, Andrew and me in our first multiplayer session with the beautiful new F-80. No vices noted, a solid formation flying machine, and beautiful to stare at while flying wing.

I think we'll no more of this later, but with full scenery in P3Dv3 for maximum visual appeal.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B735H-KPtnBUNFFPZXpPaWMtWkU/view?usp=sharing

[Willy]

Uploaded FT-774 "Strip 'n Stare" a bit ago to the library.

[semo]

Willy, on the earlier model you did a TV-1 Navy skin. Any chance you could redo it for this new model?
Semo

[Willy]

I'm wanting to, just looking for some good pics of one that either isn't almost all bare metal or white/orange. One of the problems is that most Navy pictures from those days are in black and white and I have to guess at the colors.

[davido53]

sweet paints!

but my Saggin Dragon is not showing up...anyone else have a problem with that one?

[ijay]

sweet paints!

but my Saggin Dragon is not showing up...anyone else have a problem with that one?
my was not showing either in the aircraft.cfg it says panel=, changed this to panel=tacpack, then its shows

[Navy Chief]

Haven't been following this thread, but she's definitely a beauty! By any chance, has the GA ANG 116th been included in a texture yet? NC

[Willy]

Haven't been following this thread, but she's definitely a beauty! By any chance, has the GA ANG 116th been included in a texture yet? NC

I haven't yet. I've only got good pics of F-80s from a couple of ANG units and I've already done the Colorado one. But I've got a lot of pics from the "Enchillada Air Force".

[Mach3DS]

Working on this one...redid it from scratch with the new paint kit...almost there.


https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8365/28988718170_b46f9dab50_o.jpg

[Willy]

That one's really looking good, Rick. I wouldn't kick it out of my hanger

[Flyboy208]

That one's really looking good, Rick. I wouldn't kick it out of my hanger

Agreed ! Awesome !!! Mike :applause:

[Willy]

my was not showing either in the aircraft.cfg it says panel=, changed this to panel=tacpack, then its shows

Sorry, my bad. My system had issues with the gunfire effect and I ended up just taking all the Tacpack stuff out. I'll do some appropriate fixes. Thanks for letting me know.

[Navy Chief]

Found these pictures of a interesting variant.....NC


EF-80

http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=42425&stc=1

[Willy]

I have the fix uploaded to the library and it's available. Search for FSX Native F-80 Fix.zip

[Willy]

Found these pictures of a interesting variant.....NC


EF-80


That particular F-80 was used by Wright Field as a test aircraft for a variety of modification besides just the prone position for the pilot in your pic. At one time there was a set of upward firing .50 cals mounted in the nose. Not sure whatever happened to it (very likely a target drone as a lot of eary P-80s did), but it's on my list in an unusual paint scheme.

[dvj]

Working on this one...redid it from scratch with the new paint kit...almost there.


https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8365/28988718170_b46f9dab50_o.jpg

Stunning paint!

[semo]

I'm wanting to, just looking for some good pics of one that either isn't almost all bare metal or white/orange. One of the problems is that most Navy pictures from those days are in black and white and I have to guess at the colors.


I know what you mean. The Navy loves its white and orange. I tried to use your NAS Memphis scheme on the new model. I thought that was a good look. Couldn't get the orange tanks and other bleed through problems.

[Willy]

The old one used a set of tanks that wasn't used for the FSX native. I've got one that's being difficult at the moment (personal ride), but a Navy one is on the short list.

[ijay]

Sorry, my bad. My system had issues with the gunfire effect and I ended up just taking all the Tacpack stuff out. I'll do some appropriate fixes. Thanks for letting me know.
no problem, wasn't a major issue , superb paints too, thank you:applause:

[Willy]

Well, it was something that I recognized a couple of days ago, but forgot to do anything about it. And thanks for comments on the paints.

[Mach3DS]

I'm almost finished. Ive run into a small snag. The leader stripe won't show wrapping around the bottom of the rear fuse. Other than that I've added most of the extra bits. Need to remove the USAF and place the number on the wings instead.

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8207/28680754033_cd48e0d78d_o.jpg

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8247/28679028054_09fd49375b_o.jpg

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8482/29013320830_5bae8cf079_o.jpg

[mig21bis]

Beautiful, Rick.

FDE: my dad and I spent an hour in MP, sawing the throttle back and forth - always a little behind, thanks to the J33 slow spool-up. I elected to use the old cheat for non-proficient formation simmers: tweaked fuel flow gain in FDE. I think it'll be more fun for my dad, and I can get him to fly it more if he feels good about his formation work.

If anyone else wants to set aside pride as I did, adjust fuel flow gain in aircraft.cfg to "0.01". Comment out the original setting of "0.001" to the right of that new entry, and you can go back to realistic spooling any time.

Here endeth my confession...

[Willy]

Just finished my personal ride. Restored F-80B warbird in a fictional paintscheme.

[manfredc3]

Willy,

I am trying to find the fix file, but when I click on the link then I get the error that the link does not exists.

Am I doing anything wrong?

[Willy]

It's in the library here. Just search with my username and it's on the 3rd page

Just looked myself and apparenty our librarian has included the fix in the original downloads

[WarHorse47]

Been a couple of days since the last post. I was waiting to see if the latest paints might be available for download.

Rick?? Willy?? Time to wake up, guys. :biggrin-new::biggrin-new:

[Willy]

Been a couple of days since the last post. I was waiting to see if the latest paints might be available for download.

Rick?? Willy?? Time to wake up, guys. :biggrin-new::biggrin-new:

Taking a break from the F-80s as I don't want to burn out on them like I did the Lodestars. I'm messing around the old FS2004 Bf 108 Taifun by Gunter Kramer to see just how far I can upgrade it.

[Bjoern]

I'm messing around the old FS2004 Bf 108 Taifun by Gunter Kramer to see just how far I can upgrade it.

I faintly remember that one. Great bird!

[Mach3DS]

Been a couple of days since the last post. I was waiting to see if the latest paints might be available for download.

Rick?? Willy?? Time to wake up, guys. :biggrin-new::biggrin-new:

Been taking a break from F-80X. Working on some behind the scenes stuff. Hopefully it will see the light of day sooner than later! I keep pretty busy as a tester with MV as well. ;) The next livery from me for the shooting star will be the one posted above. Then I'll be leaving F-80X land. I need to complete out a couple fixes on my last Mirage 2000C paint for MN ANG. Been working on some materials for another project that I wish I could show you here. Makes it look oodles more realistic. Maybe I'll receive permission....you never know! LOL.

[Bone]

Just DL'd this today. Nice work, you guys, it really is a pretty jet!

[Mach3DS]

61st FS Released. Enjoy!

[huub vink]

Taking a break from the F-80s as I don't want to burn out on them like I did the Lodestars. I'm messing around the old FS2004 Bf 108 Taifun by Gunter Kramer to see just how far I can upgrade it.

I have had a look at that one on the past. From my memory: Among other issues, the top wing textures were also used for the bottom af the wings, which limited the number of possibilities for repaints quite a bit. I found out after I had already invested quite some time on the fuselage :banghead:.

Cheers,
Huub

[Willy]

I have had a look at that one on the past. From my memory: Among other issues, the top wing textures were also used for the bottom af the wings, which limited the number of possibilities for repaints quite a bit. I found out after I had already invested quite some time on the fuselage :banghead:.

Cheers,
Huub

And the horizontals use 1 side for all four. I knew about the mirroring from years ago as well, but decided to see what I could do with it as well. I was mainly looking to do a civilian one and came up with this before deciding to see what I could do with the old FSD Cessna O-2 & 337 Skymasters. (I keep overstressing the Bf 108) I'm still working on the paint kit for those at the moment, but it's looking promising now that I've actually managed to get the FSX version of the O-2 flying in FSX The FSX civilian 337s were never an issue. The Cessna Skymasters are an old favorite when we fly GA online and working in 4096x4096 allows me to add much more detail than was possible in the 1024x1024 originals. New panel lines are being added at the moment.

[alain0568]

Hello 000rick000,


Thank you for this beautiful decoration!:applause:
Is it possible to have textures in the cockpit aged and used version, I think it would improve more immersion!



Alain
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[Mach3DS]

Alain thank you! It's definitely possible but I won't be doing them. I simply don't have the time. But anyone who wants to can edit VC textures. They are not tied to any particular livery.



Hello 000rick000,


Thank you for this beautiful decoration!:applause:
Is it possible to have textures in the cockpit aged and used version, I think it would improve more immersion!



Alain
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[alain0568]

Hello Rick,
thank you for your reply!
Personally i am perfectly incapable!
Maybe another repainter! ;)



Alain

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