Flysimware LEARJET 35A Released

[fsxar177]

Didn't see this posted yet, so:

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I've heard good reports. Apparently it does look better than the screenshots might convince. I'll be curious to hear more from those who purchase it.

- Joseph

[ksheadley]

Hey Joseph, it does indeed look better in sim than the screens represent and is a step up from prior releases. Those looking for Carenado/Alabeo HD textures will still be unimpressed, but for the systems junky, this is an outstanding plane. It handles well for a fast business jet, looks absolutely great in P3Dv3 although the window reflection effects don't always play well with HDR lighting and certain weather scenarios. Version 1.1 is now up on the store so changes are being addressed as normal. Dig out the checklists and have fun getting from point A to B in a hurry

[donnybalonny]

I think the interior screenshots look better than the MU-2 and that looked better than previous releases.
The exterior...I think flysimware should find someone to make some screenshots for them. Even the outside world looks pale and greyish.
All that said, the 2 AC i have from them, i have used a lot.

Maybe, but not right now.

[CODY]

I think the interior screenshots look better than the MU-2 and that looked better than previous releases.
The exterior...I think flysimware should find someone to make some screenshots for them. Even the outside world looks pale and greyish.
All that said, the 2 AC i have from them, i have used a lot.

Maybe, but not right now.

Just not enough info right now to make a good decision...Over at the "Unofficial Forums" they are struggling with OOM issue's...
I had been waiting for this to pop here so I could see what the consensus was.
I believe I'm going to wait also...
I would love to see some good shot's posted here if some one can find the time...

[Daube]

I think Flysimware need mainly two people:
- a texture artist to deal with the texturing both for internal and external models.
- a screenshot artist to present their products with a more convincing angle of view.

They already made some good progress for the internal texturing, from what I can see in the screenshots. But the textures of the external model are not on the same level unfortuntely.
It's a shame because their 3D model is quite good. With updated textures, this model could really show its full potential.

[Daube]

Over at the "Unofficial Forums" they are struggling with OOM issue's...

Do you mean the OOMs are caused by this aircraft ?

[CODY]

Do you mean the OOMs are caused by this aircraft ?

Yup...I know it is all over the place in the different sim's, but it is enough for me to hold off for now...

[Anneke]

Cody and others see this post (and the thread for a complete picture)
http://www.avsim.com/topic/477927-le...5#entry3325366

Seems to me a fine plane. I fly it all the time now. The developer is passionate and based on my other purchases from this developer (MU-2, C-441) he's very active in listening and resolving bugs and updating features. Learjet is now v1.2. OOM was caused by high VAS usage due to dimmable lighting in the VC and a fix has been issued which resolves the VAS usage. I highly recommend their creations

And yes I'm only a simmer/pilot just like you guys

[CODY]

Anneke...Been bouncing back and forth between here and the other thread. Thanks for the screenie...
I have grown weary of having to update new release's over and over. So I have decided to wait for awhile and let the dust settle...Not directed at Flysimware...But some of the "Gotta get um out" planes that have shown up as of late...
I would love to see a video of the Lear in action, but as of yet none have been posted...So bman2101 if yer listening...

[stansdds]

As far as I know, the Flysimware team consists of only two guys... who have real jobs outside of the flight sim world. They put out some solid stuff, not with the beautiful textures of some developers, but the aircraft systems are well modeled and work as well as can be expected within the confines of FSX. They pushed the systems envelop a bit with their Cessna 441, then pushed it even further with their MU-2. I think their Lear 35 pushed it even further, but ended up pushing it over the cliff. These guys do care about what they release to the community, so I expect they will get it fixed. But remember, the team is two people with real jobs, so the fix might not come today or even tomorrow, but it will come.

[donnybalonny]

I have grown weary of having to update new release's over and over. So I have decided to wait for awhile and let the dust settle...Not directed at Flysimware...But some of the "Gotta get um out" planes that have shown up as of late...

I 100% agree. There has been/are way to many new releases like that lately and the devellopers/publishers just blah blah about it. The only way to deal with that is to wait. Dont buy until public payware beta testing is over.

That said, flysimware normally work very hard on fixing issues when they release stuff, so I expect this one to be post-beta soon.

[StormILM]

I read where they hired a texture artist to enhance the VC and cabin but thus far I have not seen good clear screen shots of it yet (I hope some will be posted here soon). I am interested in the model but will wait just a little bit before buying it. I have faith they have done a good job with it as I am super pleased with the MU-2 and Conquest II with both having excellent systems depth, FDE's, and overall sound quality.

[CODY]

I read where they hired a texture artist to enhance the VC and cabin but thus far I have not seen good clear screen shots of it yet (I hope some will be posted here soon). I am interested in the model but will wait just a little bit before buying it. I have faith they have done a good job with it as I am super pleased with the MU-2 and Conquest II with both having excellent systems depth, FDE's, and overall sound quality.

This is all I can find video wise...


https://youtu.be/0xJ2xhGi66w

[mgchrist5]

Bought it. Love it. The systems are well-simulated, and the sounds (by TSS) are superb. I definitely have a newfound respect for real-word Lear drivers! It can be a bit squirrely on TO and landing phases, but not to the point of being beyond the grasp of most simmers. As with any other plane, it really pays off to be stabilized long before the runway. Khe Sahn-style approaches will not end well! The AP is quite unique, but is easily accustomed to after a few flights. I've read some complaints on various forums regarding the quality of the textures. Admittedly, they won't be competing with McPhat anytime soon, but IMHO they're more than adequate. The night VC panel lighting is quite well done, too.

Great work, Flysimware. Looking forward to your next creation...

[StormILM]

I bought my copy today over at Flightsim.com Pilot Shop. Here are my observations. The model is IMHO far nicer than the original screen shots show. While some may feel that the VC texture & 3D quality are somewhat sub-par, I understand their sentiment as newer standards have pushed the boundaries of visual realism to the point where at best, it's very difficult to fall back into accepting earlier visual standards. However, I submit that in the case of this Lear 35 (and a good number of other models out there both pay & freeware), there is a performance trade-off, meaning there are models such as this one which have a very good standard of visual detail but the texture detail and lighting are not done at the expense of performance and VAS consumption. There are some other very high end (and costly) models out there in this class (private/business jets) which while looking incredible, many users report moderate to poor FPS and VAS consumption. IMO, this model has all the eye candy I generally need and the trade-off is excellent systems flows.ops and flight dynamics, and the sounds for this model are simply spectacular. I give the visual & audio senses feedback a very high rating in general terms. Now as far as flying this model, you'll need to get deep into the manual and then just push it around the patch a few times to get a feel of how it manually handles and as well as full systems operation. This bird will climb like a bat out of hell! After takeoff, getting the aircraft cleaned up and the climb established at 250 kias, I begin setting up the autopilot. In general, the Vertical Speed mode will hold the current V/S(there is no actual vertical speed selector for specific fpm) and the V/S function works in conjunction with the Altitude Select mode but I found it better to set the Climb on Speed hold for a speed of 250 kias below 10,000ft and then open up to higher forward speed above 10,000. When the aircraft reaches the Selected Altitude, it will automatically level off and then go into Altitude Hold Mode. For descents, I recommend selecting your altitude, then disengaging the Alt Hold, then manually lowering the nose (very carefully) via yoke & pitch trim. Once you have a good stable descent established, then engage the V/S mode once again and it will again automatically level off at the selected altitude. For ILS approaches, you can plan a ILS Localizer approach via the Nav function BUT bear in mind, there is no Glideslope capture feature (no full Approach Hold mode). Once you're established on the Localizer, you can begin getting configured to land (gear, flaps, landing lights, arming the thrust reverser cans, etc). After that, when the Glideslope bars come in, then you must switch off the A/P and manually fly the final segment of the ILS. Also on final, your thrust Fan Speed RPM should be between 40 to 44% depending on your weight and you can adjust up or down depending on weight, conditions, and winds. Yes, the workload is considerably higher than other aircraft models but personally, I see that this will be very useful to sharpen my hand flying skills.

[StormILM]

Here's some more shots of the Lear 35A

[StormILM]

[Daube]

Well, in your shots, the plane DOES look quite good. Much better than the shots on the official website, for example.
I guess I'm not a fan of some of the repaints included in the base package, but the one you chose in these shots looks nice and gives a realistic feel to your shots.
Thanks a lot

[Gunman5]

Hello,

I am also a owner of the Lear since the release. Just due to the fact that the USAF is using this bird here at Ramstein as C-21a's .

Here is a repaint i made . Sadly the wing textures are mirrored so i cannot add any USAF logos or fonts to it.


Is anyone here aware of any real checklists , Speed Cards, Climb speeds and RPMs and where to get it ?

Best regards,

Felix from Germany

[StormILM]

Via one other member helping me realize my omission, there is in fact a Glideslope hold function on the A/P panel and it does work fine although the Localizer function for me tends to laterally overshoot the course by a few degrees before S-turning back onto course. Also regarding the A/P behavior, there is a tendency for the model to wing rock slightly to the opposite side of the plotted course or selected turn (both in NAV and Heading Modes). The only other issue I saw that needs to be addressed is that the fuel consumption is too high. I checked this on a 1526 mile flight and at mid point, I noted that there was insufficient fuel to finish the trip. The normal max range should be roughly 2800nm (nominal). The Fuel Flow Scalar in the CFG is set to 1.7 rather than 1.0 and the ThrustSpecificFuelConsumption was set to 0.5 but was commented out to be non-effective. I changed the Fuel Flow Scalar back to 1.0 and restored the ThrustSpecificFuelConsumption to being active and now the range seems to be more correct.

[Anneke]

Version 1.5 has been released with new gorgeous lighting (and other stuff like working hydraulics etc)

[StormILM]

Looking forward to it when it reaches Flightsim.com Pilot Shop (hopefully soon).

[StormILM]

A video of a trip I made with the Lear 35A from Fort Lauderdale to ILM.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm0amZ4PPpk

[blkbart]

Hello,

I am also a owner of the Lear since the release. Just due to the fact that the USAF is using this bird here at Ramstein as C-21a's .

Here is a repaint i made . Sadly the wing textures are mirrored so i cannot add any USAF logos or fonts to it.


Is anyone here aware of any real checklists , Speed Cards, Climb speeds and RPMs and where to get it ?

Best regards,

Felix from Germany

Go to www.Avialogs.com. Registration required--free.
At home page, go to library on lower right.
Select "aircraft"
Select "Country" (USA)
Select manufacturer (Learjet)
Choose aircraft (Series 30)

Would you be willing to share your repaint of The C-21?

Thanks. Sam from USA.

[Gunman5]

Go to www.Avialogs.com. Registration required--free.
At home page, go to library on lower right.
Select "aircraft"
Select "Country" (USA)
Select manufacturer (Learjet)
Choose aircraft (Series 30)

Would you be willing to share your repaint of The C-21?

Thanks. Sam from USA.

Hey,

thank you for this.

Here you guys got the C-21 Repaint. I did not included a thumbnail because it was actually just a privat.

This one is the Reg 84-0082 flying for the 86th Airlift Wing out of Ramstein Airbase and not the one you see on my first pictures.

Have fun with it.

Regards,

Felix

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2U...ew?usp=sharing