Windows 10

[Navy Chief]

Have only created an ISO once in my life. No idea how to even do so now...NC

[flaviossa]

@IanHenry: I didn´t used any key. I have a win8.1 pro associated to one microsoft account i have. I used this account in win10 instalation process and win10 created a key automatic for me. I didin´t write my win8 serial anywhere

[falcon409]

I've been hooked in to receive the Win10 program as soon as it's available, but thus far the only thing I have is the hidden folder ($Windows.~BT) which contains everything except what goes in the folder called "NewOS". . . .that folder is empty. Gee, wonder what goes in there? If you have that hidden folder but nothing has happened yet, you might check to see if it also has one empty folder.

[patful]

I've been hooked in to receive the Win10 program as soon as it's available, but thus far the only thing I have is the hidden folder ($Windows.~BT) which contains everything except what goes in the folder called "NewOS". . . .that folder is empty. Gee, wonder what goes in there? If you have that hidden folder but nothing has happened yet, you might check to see if it also has one empty folder.

Yesterday, the message said Win10 was ready to install, but I never found that folder. Today, it says my copy of Win10 has been reserved. Craziness.

[Bjoern]

How big is the "Windows" folder after installing 10?
I fear that 7 and all its accumulated junk will be kept, while 10 will occupy another 20GB or so of disk space.
It doesn't make it any better that my SSD is almost full.

I am Intrigued as to what MS$ has to gain. If 3 million users take up this offer theystand to loose 660 million dollars on this in a time where profit is everything.

This has been discussed before. W10 is and will only be a platform for other things to make money with. Like cloud based storage service or apps sold through the store.

I think they're trying to tell you the same thing that has existed throughout their entire history of issuing "upgrades" to their operating systems:

Wait until a manufacturer installs a certified working copy of Win 10 on a production machine and then go buy the machine. Otherwise, beat your brains out against a brick wall with all the troubles updating files, drivers, etc.

I learned this after the Win98 "upgrade" for Win95.

The golden rule is never to upgrade, but to got for a clean installation from the start. This, however, sadly is not possible for Windows 10 though, at least not before you've upgraded.

Upgrade, clean installation and whatnot, you haven't lived until you have installed any modular Linux distribution. Install the kernel and a few important core modules, then install the networking module and use the package manager to download whatever yout think you need to get stated. Masochists compile every module and program before they install them. Any Windows installation is kindergarten compared to that.

[Gdavis101]

I went ahead and did the upgrade on my Laptop which was Windows 8.. Everything went okay for me and the upgrade was relatively easy.. Now, I run Win 7 on my Desktop and that is where I run FSX but I just can't bring myself to do it because I do not want to face a situation of having to reinstall everything FS if something goes hinky..

[gdavej]

To everybody who's tried and failed to install Windows 10: think yourself lucky. I "upgraded" my laptop from Windows 8.1. and after hours of messing around with it, getting more and more frustrated, I'm actually contemplating installing Windows 8 back on the laptop. Half the apps don't work because I don't have permission to write to files in my home directory, it's slow, Edge is worse than IE, and it even disabled my virus scanner (Kaspersky). No way will I contemplate "upgrading" Windows 7 on my desktop PC, the one I use for FSX.

[patful]

Edge is worse than IE...

Surely you jest. How could anything be slower than IE? That was one of the main reasons I considered the switch. Firefox is getting laggy.

[gradyhappyg]

That's what I wanted to hear. I've trimmed my W7 rig down to just 35 processes running including AV, didn't want anything new slowing FSX down. I have no use for touch screens, apps, talking assistants, or the like. My interest is waning. Somebody tell me why I need Windows 10 before I cancel the reservation.

The only reason I can think of is continued "Microsoft support" whatever that means. I figure by the time I need to worry about that my already 8 year old machine will be giving up the ghost anyhow. Just wasn't all that impressed with W10. It wasn't any faster booting or shutting down in fact most apps seemed much slower to load than in W7. For example FSX-Steam usually up and running in less than two minutes took close to five.

[patful]

The only reason I can think of is continued "Microsoft support" whatever that means. I figure by the time I need to worry about that my already 8 year old machine will be giving up the ghost anyhow. Just wasn't all that impressed with W10. It wasn't any faster booting or shutting down in fact most apps seemed much slower to load than in W7. For example FSX-Steam usually up and running in less than two minutes took close to five.

Thanks. I only have a 5-year-old Athlon II 3.2 quad, just got FSX a couple of months ago because I wanted to gauge what I would need for my next computer to run it. Turns out it's running FSX pretty well, happy with it, don't want to upset the cart with a bloated Win10. If I do build my own rig, I might take a look at Win10 before I do.

[Jafo]

Win 10 won't be 'bloated'. It follows on from the improvements to the kernel in 8 that showed a capability to run on lower spec machines than even 7 could.

The only issue with 10 is it's the embodiment of......

....Skynet...

[CG_1976]

Is the W10 preview available still?? I am still W8.1 and the update wont go in and keeps reverting me back to W8.1 at the 45% mark and something about the boot phase mark failure. Montie posted the pic I am having. In theory I am wondering if I should go preview and then would I still be legit for a upgrade or just keep trying lol. The Casino down the Road has a lot of frustrated W8.1 users drinking lol cause of the update to W10.

[manfredc3]

Well the upgrade from W7 on the laptop went smooth.

Seems to load up slower than W7. I had W8 upgrade on it before, that loaded up really fast, but as I hated W8, I rolled back to W7 at that time.

Other than the slower startup, all seems to be working fine so far, and no driver issues.

I looked at Edge, but quickly went back to Chrome. Can't even get to internet options without searching for it, so that you can change the home page. It's not letting you load a new tab with the home page either.

No, I will stay with Chrome.

I did turn off that darn nosy assistant, set the internet connection to metered, so that I can control when updates are downloaded and installed.
Oh, And I also turned off that ridiculous wifi sharing.

Well, knowing me I will be messing around to see what else MS put in this version, that only benefits their "need-to-know".

Other than that, as I said, it's running just fine, Not showing up as ready to upgrade on my fsx rig yet, but I am not ready for that one for a while anyway.

[gradyhappyg]

Win 10 won't be 'bloated'. It follows on from the improvements to the kernel in 8 that showed a capability to run on lower spec machines than even 7 could.

The only issue with 10 is it's the embodiment of......

....Skynet...

That all depends on what apps and programs you run and type and age of your machine. On mine W10 was eating CPU and memory like a hungry PacMan was making his rounds on the circuit boards. My CPU usage never fell below 20% with nothing but the background programs and services running and was spiking much higher than that. So it's a no go for now. Considering how easy it was to revert back to 7 might try it again in say 11 months 20 days if I can ever save enough cash for a decent GPU that will work with W10 and my older games.

[CG_1976]

I have lost count of how many times I tried upgrading from Windows 7. I have run the Download Tool 64x, I have created a USB installer, used Windows Update, run my anti virus software, disabled the anti virus software, disabled Windows Defender, cleaned the registry, repaired the registry, repaired permissions all to end up with the same install error at approx. 45 %. I think I might just give up now, I am lost.

Found something interesting http://www.orbxsystems.com/forum/top...mminent/page-4 Im gonna experiment and see what happens.

[papab]

Used Media Creation Tool to download W10 to my Surface Pro 3
1/2 hour later- working like a champ!

Lucky I guess.....
Rick

[CG_1976]

Bingo W10 finally. The Orbx forum issue and trick did it. Now how do I shut up that female tramp voice thing lol.

[papab]

Well the upgrade from W7 on the laptop went smooth.

I looked at Edge, but quickly went back to Chrome. Can't even get to internet options without searching for it, so that you can change the home page. It's not letting you load a new tab with the home page either.

.

Open MS Edge
Click on the three dots (...) on the top right of the window
Click on settings
Select: open with (specific page or pages)
Type in the web address in the box below
Click on the PLUS sign to the right of the web address box to add it
Your done!

Took me several try's before I realized I had to add the address by clicking the PLUS sign...

Rick

[WarHorse47]

After reading a variety of posts on different forums, I canceled my Win10 reservation and decided to wait awhile. My win8.1 is running just fine, as is FSX and FS9.

After Tuesday's release, I noticed on the icon missing from my taskbar. I thought great, no more reminder.

This morning the icon is back once again to remind me to "Get Windows 10." Sigh. Guess its going to stay there for awhile.

[rich12545]

I should have cancelled too. Updated and am having problems with fsx. It won't work in full screen. The aircraft pic doesn't show up in the free flight setup. I can live with those but NVidia inspector doesn't seem to work in winx. I can't live with the shimmering. If I don't find a solution, it's back to win7.

[wombat666]

How big is the "Windows" folder after installing 10?
I fear that 7 and all its accumulated junk will be kept, while 10 will occupy another 20GB or so of disk space.
It doesn't make it any better that my SSD is almost full.

Not a problem Bjoern, Samsung have just added a 2TB drive to the 850Evo SSD line.

[oldmsgt]

Well, curiosity got the better of me. Upgraded to Windows 10 last night, took about 2 1/2 hours. Shouldn't have bothered, FSX doesn't work! So this morning I've gone back to Windows 8.1 and all is well again. Upgrade if you so desire, but be prepared for the end result to be something less than perfect.
Cheers...

Old MSgt

[ncooper]

How big is the "Windows" folder after installing 10?

17.7GB.

Nick.

[CG_1976]

My FSX/SE and Prepar3D both work so far no issue's under window mode and AMD/ATI released W10 driver's.

[manfredc3]

Open MS Edge
Click on the three dots (...) on the top right of the window
Click on settings
Select: open with (specific page or pages)
Type in the web address in the box below
Click on the PLUS sign to the right of the web address box to add it
Your done!

Took me several try's before I realized I had to add the address by clicking the PLUS sign...

Rick

I did try that, but every time I started Edge, it just went to a page stating "where to go next", or something like that. then I typed "Internet Options" in the search bar, and... wow, there was the known window to set the home page. Hence why I went back to Chrome.