Virtualcol Otter X _ July 17th

[falcon409]

Thanks Sieggie, I'll investigate further. On another note, Here are a few shots of the WhistlerAir Amphib model sitting at the docks at Whistler Waterdrome. Forgot I had done this a couple years ago but the amphib model jogged my memory so I reinstalled it and it looks great with the Orbx Global.

[falcon409]

If someone from Virtualcol happens to read this. . .I can't use your "Contact us" message page because it requires that I type my name and there's no place that I see outside of the message section, to do that. So after typing a lengthy message, rather than it just saying "oops, forgot to add your name", it wipes the entire page clean and you have to start over again.

[donnybalonny]

Try this one: (they are very openminded and relaxed)

desarrollo@virtualcol.com

Nice little scenery and you otter stands pretty correct on the floats and not tipped forward as on some screenshots.

[falcon409]

Try this one: (they are very openminded and relaxed)

desarrollo@virtualcol.com

. . . . .your otter stands pretty correct on the floats and not tipped forward as on some screenshots.

Thanks, I'll give that a try.

[steve speerly]

I do not have it yet so I am only guessing but does it allow beta on the prop like other turboprops. Maybe try moving the controls to half reverse and see if that helps.

Dave

We are working on updates. It will take some time. Please be patient. You will be pleased.

[steve speerly]

If someone from Virtualcol happens to read this. . .I can't use your "Contact us" message page because it requires that I type my name and there's no place that I see outside of the message section, to do that. So after typing a lengthy message, rather than it just saying "oops, forgot to add your name", it wipes the entire page clean and you have to start over again.

try this. you have to log in
https://www.virtualcol.com/products....ulogo=contacto

[Wild Bill Kelso]

Well ... I've been warned.
I'd never thought that it would be possible to stay even underneath the level of their poor Fokker 50 rendition - but it is.
To use the politest phrasing possible, the exterior textures are a nice reminder of the good old days of FS95, and I can't figure out any repainter's skills to improve anything about it.

Is it so hard the use the correct blue shade of the RCAF roundel and to take care that the antiglare coating is applied to both sides?
Check this out:




Even the engine obviously comes straight of the bargain bin, since it won't reach more than 1700 RPM, even in "all-to-the-wall" status:



Interestingly enough, the aircraft.cfg calls for 3100 max_rated_rpm. A decent P&W R1340 won't reach these revs without any serious consequences...
The strobes flashing into the VC will lead to photosensitive epilepsy and I've never seen flashing landing lights before.
No bump maps, no spec maps.
Well, of course this was cheap. With a friendly 5 $ coupon redeemed, there's a sleek 9,20 $ left.
Still too much, as far as I'm concerned.

Sorry, guys...


Cheers,
Markus.

[Lane Street]

...I've never seen flashing landing lights before.

They are called Pulse Lights- https://preciseflight.com/general-av...eral-aviation/ ...and are quite common on DHC-2s and -3s.

No comment on anything else.

cheers,
Lane

[Motormouse]

They are called Pulse Lights- https://preciseflight.com/general-av...eral-aviation/ ...and are quite common on DHC-2s and -3s.

No comment on anything else.

cheers,
Lane

Actually pulse landing lights are quite common, we have them on Learjets etc that I deal with.
They stem from a US regulation for increased aeroplane conspicuity when below 10,000ft in a TMA


ttfn

Pete

[GB]

Well ... I've been warned.
I'd never thought that it would be possible to stay even underneath the level of their poor Fokker 50 rendition - but it is.
To use the politest phrasing possible, the exterior textures are a nice reminder of the good old days of FS95, and I can't figure out any repainter's skills to improve anything about it.

Is it so hard the use the correct blue shade of the RCAF roundel and to take care that the antiglare coating is applied to both sides?
Check this out:




Even the engine obviously comes straight of the bargain bin, since it won't reach more than 1700 RPM, even in "all-to-the-wall" status:



Interestingly enough, the aircraft.cfg calls for 3100 max_rated_rpm. A decent P&W R1340 won't reach these revs without any serious consequences...
The strobes flashing into the VC will lead to photosensitive epilepsy and I've never seen flashing landing lights before.
No bump maps, no spec maps.
Well, of course this was cheap. With a friendly 5 $ coupon redeemed, there's a sleek 9,20 $ left.
Still too much, as far as I'm concerned.

Sorry, guys...


Cheers,
Markus.

Sorry my friend but in my opinion this isn't a nice attitude.

All products have some initial flaws and they're ironed out after release taking advantage of our observations, such as those you mentioned above. I'm sure the developers will take care of the identified problems if we let them know, but we have to respect their work. It is just a 10-ish dollar enjoyment after all, so nobody is in danger due to the flaws.

[heywooood]

Wild Bills remarks are helpful - I am still on the fence with this release as this is an important aircraft for FSX. I am familiar with this developer as I had purchased one of their ATR packs...they are priced in accordance to their detail let's say -
One of their people has said in an earlier post that some fixes were being worked on, so l plan to wait and see.

[Bjoern]

Well ... I've been warned.
I'd never thought that it would be possible to stay even underneath the level of their poor Fokker 50 rendition - but it is.
To use the politest phrasing possible, the exterior textures are a nice reminder of the good old days of FS95, and I can't figure out any repainter's skills to improve anything about it.

Is it so hard the use the correct blue shade of the RCAF roundel and to take care that the antiglare coating is applied to both sides?
Check this out:
...


Even the engine obviously comes straight of the bargain bin, since it won't reach more than 1700 RPM, even in "all-to-the-wall" status:
...

Interestingly enough, the aircraft.cfg calls for 3100 max_rated_rpm. A decent P&W R1340 won't reach these revs without any serious consequences...
The strobes flashing into the VC will lead to photosensitive epilepsy and I've never seen flashing landing lights before.
No bump maps, no spec maps.
Well, of course this was cheap. With a friendly 5 $ coupon redeemed, there's a sleek 9,20 $ left.
Still too much, as far as I'm concerned.

Sorry, guys...

This thing was developed within a few short months and sells for an appropriate price, what the effin' hell do you expect?

[SkyHawk024]

its a alright buy i mean i know it needs a update but for 12-14 dollars its not to shabby plus no one else has done a otter for flight sim, so for what it is it is actually ok

[Roger]

It just needs some higher res repaints and I believe I would like it a little more.

[heywooood]

This thing was developed within a few short months and sells for an appropriate price, what the effin' hell do you expect?

some developers set a low price point yet offer very nice products...some are free and are incredibly fine so simply going by price point can be a poor indicator or an incomplete indicator if you prefer.

having a customer relay their experience, albeit quite frankly, can be helpful - I think everyone is mature enough to take the human variables into account...

..for instance, I know that your experiences as a developer of FSX products causes a more pointed reaction to these things than some, Bjoern - but I appreciate some candor from customers as well as developers, even on these boards...

BtW - anybody wanna share an image of the cockpit after sunset...with the lighting and a whatnot?

[Hdguy]

I bought it. Cost me 7 bucks and some change..

Not sure which I tested but it barely got off the ground. I even hit some trees..

Gonna have to investigate more..

[SkyHawk024]

I have noticed the turbo prop variant is painfully under powered and needs alot more elevator authority, especially the float variant as it took me about 4-5 miles to get it airborne full bore.

[Francois]

For what it's worth: we're building one too......

[ATR43]

An update has been released by Virtual Col for the Otter series over at their websites "Updates Zone" - not sure what's changed though!

[Snurdley]

For what it's worth: we're building one too......

Classy.......

[lliaghll]

I installed the otter update. When I try to fly the turbine float plane it flips over onto its back as soon as it loads. Great improvement. I've already complained to Virtualcol. I am looking forward to FSAddon 's otter. Wish I had known about it before I bought this.

[Bushpounder]

For what it's worth: we're building one too......

THAT is good news!!

Don

[AussieMan]

For what it's worth: we're building one too......

Great news mate. Looking forward to it.

[heywooood]

Classy.......

yeah...faux pas Francois..you could have started a new thread rather than head butt this one

[Wild Bill Kelso]

@ Lane Street:
Thank you for your correction concerning the flashing landing lights!
My fault in this case.

Sorry my friend but in my opinion this isn't a nice attitude.
All products have some initial flaws and they're ironed out after release taking advantage of our observations...

Maybe it's not 'nice', but I'd like to reserve the right to consider a rip off as such, even when it's a low price rip off.
In my about 14 years of flightsimming, I've encountered some 'initial flaws' and learned to rectify or live with them - but this release just soaks with developer's disinclination!

For what it's worth: we're building one too......

Teasing out this amazing news was worth my mispurchase!
The crippled Otter was erased from my hangar in this moment.
Very much looking forward for your release!

Cheers,
Markus.