MV F-4E Phantom II Released!

[Cees Donker]

Fifty bucks and the price will go up? I'll pass.



Cees

[YoYo]

what Version Number is the Release Version?

I get no E-Mail from Mivliz

1.150704v.

[DaveB]

Fifty bucks and the price will go up? I'll pass.



Cees

I think it's gone up Cees. I checked the price straight after Kat posted and it was shown at $39.99. I wondered then what the final price would be and it appears to be $50.. all but a cent! A bit rich for me but I don't want this version anyway thank goodness.
ATB
DaveB

[Wingmate]

I saw this VF-142 paint while browsing this thread http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...-4E-Phantom-II does anyone know where I can download it?

Thanks

[dvj]

1.150704v.

When any of you installed the latest version, did you get the Milviz ACM added to your desktop? I did not. In fact, I don't have it at all.

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[Wingmate]

For me the ACM is located in a folder named Milviz/F4E in my FSX folder. It never put a shortcut on my desktop.

[UnknownGuest12]

Fifty bucks and the price will go up? I'll pass.



Cees

Beautifull work, but same here...

[Katoun]

Hi

The price is 49.99 and will not go up from there. It's a fair price given two plus years of work.

Thank you.

Kat.

[DaveSHQ]

Considering not everyone is a jet jockey in FSX it's fair.

[Flyboy208]

And this is what she looks like in P3D v2.5



Magnificent!

Johan

Go CAG 30 !!! Mike

[YoYo]

Considering not everyone is a jet jockey in FSX it's fair.

In pre-order period + 2 days after the price was on the level 39,99$ for FSX or P3D. It isn't a cheap, agree but 40-50$ for advanced and realistic model of military jet or big liner is acceptable I think. It isn't only nice looking 3D model + simply avionics systems and FM in this case.

[expat]

Web site suggests only F-4E model. Where is the USN J model coming from?

[Katoun]

Hi,

The F-4J external only mdl is included in the package but is totally unsupported.

This is the reason it is not mentioned.

Thank you.

Kat.

[DaveB]

Hmm.. I might have nipped in at the $39.99 price point had I known that. Never mind.. one thing I DO have is time

ATB
DaveB

[Chris Sykes]

Hmm.. I might have nipped in at the $39.99 price point had I known that. Never mind.. one thing I DO have is time

ATB
DaveB

Plus extra for a Tacpack add-on think ill wait until there's a sale on somewhere... Its a nice looking model and I do want it but spent too much recently with the JF Tonka and the Mrs birthday. Secondly I also would like the Razbam A-7, anything modern with Tacpack is near enough a guarantied purchase for me.

[harrybasset]

Hmm.. I might have nipped in at the $39.99 price point had I known that. Never mind.. one thing I DO have is time

ATB
DaveB

To be fair, in the very first post Katoun did warn us the price would go up quickly.

[DaveB]

To be fair, in the very first post Katoun did warn us the price would go up quickly.

That's not in dispute mate. Seems there were a few of us here that weren't really interested in the 'E' so didn't keep our digits on the pulse with what else might be in the release package.. eg.. the 'J' (albeit with the E panel). I don't have TacPac so that doesn't bother me but I might have been swayed to leap in just to get the J. Kat did say in this thread that the J isn't supported so wasn't/isn't mentioned so I guess it's a sort of 'Easter Egg' for those who were committed enough to go for the E
ATB
DaveB

[stovall]

The Milviz F-4E package is for me one of my favorites. This is especially true because they included the F-4J model with the release. Two aircraft in one package. When the beta models came out at the reduced price I got the chance to paint both the E and J models. Naval aviation has always been one of my interests so I concentrated on the J model. More of my paints will be posted here at SOH as time goes on. I just have to package them up for release.

Knowing the time and resourses it took to produce this great aircraft the price definitely seems quite fair. I especially appreciate the offer to participate in the beta program at a lessor price. Thanks Milviz for the F-4 Phantom II.

[dvj]

The problem with my lack of flight controls has been solved. The latest version requires a controller and cannot be ran from a keyboard. So this eliminates using this sim on my gaming notebook unless I also drag along the controller. Back to a dedicated controller on the desktop.

I missed the keyboard reference somehow....Sorry but this bird requires a controller. You can use trim commands in FSX (or assign in the ACM) and you will get slight, very slow stick movements from the trim motors but no direct keyboard control due to the nature of the flight control systems in this bird.

How and why this changed from the previous beta versions has me scratching my head, but I understand this is what people want for mil jets.

Milviz should update the system requirements statement on their web sales page, because I see no such controller - stick or yoke requirement. All previous versions worked with the keyboard. Yep, user error!


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[n4gix]

Boxed version of FSX Acceleration, although i do have the STEAM version also. I only use boxed as of right now. No support forums for F-4 that i can see just the General.

Did you miss this instruction on the installer's background screenshot?

[Naruto-kun]

One simply does not operate a highly complex military jet in FSX without a controller lol. Its been a basic assumption of ours since the F-15E. The previous beta versions worked because the flight control system was far from complete back then. With such an assumption its not hard to miss the word "keyboard"....

[dvj]

One simply does not operate a highly complex military jet in FSX without a controller lol. Its been a basic assumption of ours since the F-15E. The previous beta versions worked because the flight control system was far from complete back then. With such an assumption its not hard to miss the word "keyboard"....

Oh I understand that. As I often use a gaming notebook for FSX (HP Omen), I just use the keyboard when I am traveling and when demonstrating products. Oh well, silly me. Funny, I fly your F-15E, F86, Stuka, T-38 and P-38 just fine without a controller. At the least put the controller as a requirement on the purchase page. That was my point.

[Dumonceau]

The Milviz F-4E package is for me one of my favorites. This is especially true because they included the F-4J model with the release. Two aircraft in one package. When the beta models came out at the reduced price I got the chance to paint both the E and J models. Naval aviation has always been one of my interests so I concentrated on the J model. More of my paints will be posted here at SOH as time goes on. I just have to package them up for release.

Knowing the time and resourses it took to produce this great aircraft the price definitely seems quite fair. I especially appreciate the offer to participate in the beta program at a lessor price. Thanks Milviz for the F-4 Phantom II.

Agreed 150%! I got to upgrade to the dual installer for just 15€! That is a bargain!

It looks great and flies like a Phantom: America's proof to the world that even a brick will fly with a big enough engine!!

Johan

[dhazelgrove]

Don't get Crusader jocks started on that!!

Dave

[joe bob]

+1
I know there are some companies that will inflate the price if they release an aircraft that is very popular in the real world,
This isn't one of them though, there is a lot of substance here that takes a lot of man hours to produce.
I think it was an ambitious undertaking, one that inches Flight Sim forward like so many good products do.
That added detail is important to some and to others it isn't.
I consider this one worth saving up for, it is going to be around a while.