JF Tornado GR1 RELEASED

**bruce448** · June 28th, 2015, 08:47

Mine is even lower that that

i7 3770K OC'd to 4.2Ghz
8Gb Ram
GTX 560Ti

as its says below in my Signature

***Daube*** · June 28th, 2015, 10:42

Hehe, then I guess I'll have to refrain from buying this suberb Tornado. I'd like to, but my i7 960 @ 3,7 Ghz will certainly disagree

**fsxar177** · June 28th, 2015, 11:00

If any of you users, who are struggling to get any performance with the Tornado, would like some help.. send me a PM.

- Joseph

**CiaranL** · June 28th, 2015, 11:44

Originally Posted by Dumonceau

ok, time for some truth or dare!

Dear Betatesters, we dare you to share with us the specs of your testing rigs!!

Johan

PS: this is all just in good humour. I always have been and always will be a staunch supporter of JF!

AMD FX-8350 4.0 Ghz
EVGA GTX 550ti (Stock Speed)
8 Gb Cheap "Team" Branded memory
Biostar A960D+ Mobo
2 x 1 Tb Seagate Barracuda Drives

**Paul Golding** · June 29th, 2015, 00:17

Originally Posted by Dumonceau

ok, time for some truth or dare!

Dear Betatesters, we dare you to share with us the specs of your testing rigs!!

Johan

PS: this is all just in good humour. I always have been and always will be a staunch supporter of JF!

Last updated more than 2 years ago, so hardly state of the art; i5-3570 3.4GHz OC to 4.60GHz, GTX 660, 8GB Kingston Hyperx DDR3 2400 and MS-FSX installed on it's own SSD.
Like other beta testers, I too am surprised at the FPS reaction but am sure JF will deal with this.

**Paul Golding** · June 29th, 2015, 00:27

Originally Posted by rezn550

after getting it to run fairly smoothly it appears that the plane always banks a bit to the left. i have to trim it around 5% to the right to fly straight on.
i checked this out with and without loadout but it doesn't matter

also i can't see any parts of the plane when i turn my head in the VC with trackIR

is this normal or is there something wrong with my sim ?

Originally Posted by rezn550

yep that was my first thought too but it happens only in the tornado not in other planes

Originally Posted by miragecy

Same case with me

Andy

This was bug reported during the beta and I was the only one experiencing it. Like you, I found it made no difference whether loaded or clean and I repeatedly checked for fuel imbalance.

Then, for the last few beta versions (including the release candidate), the problem vanished. Thinking back though, it may well have been connected with changes I made in the controller settings after reading some comments by A2A about how 'we' should configure things. It was along the lines of 'use max sensitivities and min null zone'. There was a very good explanation of why this should be done, and seemed to revolve around the fact that most users have the wrong impression about what these settings do and how they should be set, including me. Anyway, I changed the settings as per their suggestions and maybe by pure chance, I now have a Tornado that flies straight.

**Martyn** · June 29th, 2015, 01:04

Hi all

We are currently working on an update which we believe will address the performance issues without removing any functionality from the aircraft. This update should be available later this week.

If you are encountering a CTD in P3Dv2 after installing the performance hotfix, please download this replacement panel.cfg file and move it into your Tornado GR1 panel folder (P3Dv2\SimObjects\Airplanes\JF_TornadoGR1\panel), overwriting the existing file: http://cdn.mastertronic.com/justflig...oGR1/panel.cfg

Thanks
Martyn - JF

**YoYo** · June 29th, 2015, 02:12

Sounds good! : )))

**DaveWG** · June 29th, 2015, 03:39

Thanks Martyn. Will try out the new panel.cfg later.
Looking forward to the patch. At the moment performance for me is acceptable, but could be better.
It's a superb model and I'm intending to spend quite a bit of time flying it.

**ST0RM** · June 29th, 2015, 07:46

Looks like I'll hold off on installing this jet, despite getting it on pre-pay. I'm on the mid-range of computers and from what I'm reading, it wont be good until a patch is released. Luckily I've got others to fly in the mean time.

-Jeff

**Dumonceau** · June 29th, 2015, 07:53

I must say that I am awed by the stellar support of JF once more.

I logged a ticket on their site this weekend, got home from work just now and low and behold: a reply with a solution! AND with good news on a forthcoming update to alleviate the performance problems!

I can now run the Tornado with the hotfix and am eagerly awaiting the forthcoming update!

A BIG thumbs up from me to JF!!

Cheers,

Johan

**DaveB** · June 29th, 2015, 08:11

Couldn't agree more Johan

Prior to this, JF were my favourite FS software company and they remain so. Buying is painless.. downloading is painless.. re-downloading is painless regardless of how many years have passed (it's always there in your folder) and their support has no peers

ATB
DaveB

**DaveB** · June 30th, 2015, 06:26

Originally Posted by Paul Golding

This was bug reported during the beta and I was the only one experiencing it. Like you, I found it made no difference whether loaded or clean and I repeatedly checked for fuel imbalance.

Then, for the last few beta versions (including the release candidate), the problem vanished. Thinking back though, it may well have been connected with changes I made in the controller settings after reading some comments by A2A about how 'we' should configure things. It was along the lines of 'use max sensitivities and min null zone'. There was a very good explanation of why this should be done, and seemed to revolve around the fact that most users have the wrong impression about what these settings do and how they should be set, including me. Anyway, I changed the settings as per their suggestions and maybe by pure chance, I now have a Tornado that flies straight.

I forgot to note this earlier but I have a 'left-hander' Tornado too. My joystick settings are default.. never played with them at all. Past experience (particularly during beta testing new models) has shown that any model displaying this characteristic is the fault of the model(airfile/cfg) not the joystick and to be honest.. keeping default settings is.. IMHO.. the way to go. You have to have a yardstick and 'default' is it.

Still.. I'm always open to suggestion and willing to keep an open mind. If the Tonka still goes to the left after the coming patch.. I'll certainly check out the sensitivities change

ATB
DaveB

**DaveWG** · June 30th, 2015, 09:51

Mine's a "lefty" too.

Axis assigned & calibrated in FSUIPC.

**delta558** · June 30th, 2015, 11:29

This did crop up in testing, we found that the boz pod / skyshadow on the outer pylons being of different weights were causing an exaggerated assymetric behaviour. That was sorted, though, by simply assigning them the same weight. I've just run through the .cfg file and can't see anything obviously assymetric in there but I'll look through it in a bit more depth after my shift tomorrow.

**DaveB** · June 30th, 2015, 12:05

Rgr that mate

For my part at least.. there should be no 'load' imbalance as I've yet to load any stores (assuming that they're not there already and selecting them makes them visible.. I've yet to look). No point in making a marginal situation worse by adding to it

ATB
DaveB

**bruce448** · June 30th, 2015, 13:01

Another 27 Squadron scheme for you

ZA654, 27 Squadron, 75 Anniversary, RAF Marham, 1990

Files here

http://www.mediafire.com/download/2l...27Sqn_75th.zip

**DaveB** · June 30th, 2015, 13:17

Nice one Bruce.. cheers

ATB
DaveB

**delta_lima** · June 30th, 2015, 15:11

Great repaints Bruce - you're a rock star!

Is a No. 2 Sqn Arctic Ops scheme something you'd consider?

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That is likely my fave scheme on Buccs and Tonks ...

Thanks for your work on this thus far!

Looking to get this model in the next couple of days ...

dl

**DaveB** · June 30th, 2015, 15:31

Nice idea dl and happy birthday btw

ATB
DaveB

**delta_lima** · June 30th, 2015, 15:49

Originally Posted by DaveB

Nice idea dl and happy birthday btw

ATB
DaveB

Thanks mate - this model will be my b-day present!

dl

**Martyn** · July 3rd, 2015, 08:03

Hi all,

After a week spent optimising the model and textures we are seeing greatly improved performance. We still have some work that we'd like to do and therefore unfortunately the update will not be available until early next week.

Here is a list showing what is currently included in the update:

- Optimised for improved performance
- APU starting issue – fixed
- LP cock functionality added
- VC rotary/multi-position switch logic improved
- Battery draining with APU/ground power connected – fixed
- Engine start issues – fixed
- Air-to-air refuelling – tanker speed/altitude adjusted, autopilot system conflict removed, indicated airspeed added to tanker information bar
- Position of 2D panels adjusted for better visibility
- AI Tristar KC-1 texture issue – fixed
- AFDS throttle INC/DEC switch issue – fixed
- Temporary flameout shortly after takeoff - fixed

Thanks
Martyn