FSX Native Flyingboats?

[TARPSBird]

Some years ago George Diemer came out with several versions of the Sikorsky S-43/JRS-1 for FS9. I just now copied one of the JRS-1's into FSX and it worked just fine.

[edakridge]

I found this S-43 at Flightsim.com:



It says "FS2004", but works fine in FSX and even has FSX views. Link: http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/fslib....rchid=37263942

[TARPSBird]

I found this S-43 at Flightsim.com. It says "FS2004", but works fine in FSX and even has FSX views. Link: http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/fslib....rchid=37263942

Yep, that's one of George Diemer's S-43's per my post above. Drop 'em right into FSX, no problem.

[Cees Donker]

Id like to see one day good modelled Short S.25 Sunderland for FSX/P3D.



but few days ago I returned to PBY Catalina of AS, realistics engines option is very nice.

What about the First Class Simulations Sunderland?


Cees

[Naismith]

Yep, that's one of George Diemer's S-43's per my post above. Drop 'em right into FSX, no problem.

Why I wonder is it that FlightSim.com links never work.

[BendyFlyer]

First of all, I would like to apologize if this has been discussed to death but I had difficulty to track a similar topic in SOH. Apart from the great Aerosoft's Pig Boat, has there been any working Boeing 314 Clippers for FSX or something like China Clippers or other pre-war flyingboats? We got a handful of floatplanes and amphibs. Thanks

Quite a few as everyone has suggested. The Aerosoft Catalina and the Virtavia HU16 or Grumman Albatross are the only significant payware contributions. The master craftsman of flying boats was Jens Kristensen who has covered just about everything in the transport field. A great collection of Shorts flying boats:

The Calcutta,
S5 Singapore,
S17 Kent
S23
S30
Shorts Solent
Shorts Hythe

All are available in FSX but were not designed for FSX and have limited VC's but really its the texture graphics and original modelling limits which make them a little ordinary, but if your prepared to play around with paint and panels you can make some quite passable improvements.

I have in collaboration with NZ simmer Adrian Brausch (AB) reworked the JBK into a Sunderland of sorts. AB did the paints and turret textures and I have done the cfg and VC rework.

Here's a link to the Sunderland as is but not yet ready for release. http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...yer#post921554

I have also reworked the Shorts Solent and Shorts Sandringham VC's to more look like the real aircraft did.

This is the Solent





Sandringham:




FSX is a difficult medium to model seaplanes/flying boats (contact points water drag and speeds etc) and the Sunderland took a lot of research to get the aircraft data correct and hence the model to perform realistically in the sim, which it now does.

[Dumonceau]

What about the First Class Simulations Sunderland?


Cees

Cees, are you 100% sure that the FCS Sunderland is FSX native?

Cheers,

Johan

[Portia911]

The master craftsman of flying boats was Jens Kristensen who has covered just about everything in the transport field. A great collection of Shorts flying boats:

The Calcutta,
S5 Singapore,
S17 Kent
S23
S30
Shorts Solent
Shorts Hythe

I have also reworked the Shorts Solent and Shorts Sandringham VC's to more look like the real aircraft did.

This is the Solent

Are your VC reworks available anywhere, Bendy?

[Cees Donker]

Cees, are you 100% sure that the FCS Sunderland is FSX native?

Cheers,

Johan

No. I'm not. It says for FS2004 or FSX.....Only one way to find out. But it gets terrible reviews!


Cees

[Willy]

I've been a fan of the Sikorsky S43 ever since I saw the first pre-release screenshot of the Bill Lyons one from Golden Hawaii. I bought it then and waited for Bill to finish it. That's good to know about the Diemer ones in FSX. I'll have to give some of his other Sikorsky's a shot as well (S39 & S42)

[YoYo]

I've been a fan of the Sikorsky S43 ever since I saw the first pre-release screenshot of the Bill Lyons one from Golden Hawaii. I bought it then and waited for Bill to finish it. That's good to know about the Diemer ones in FSX. I'll have to give some of his other Sikorsky's a shot as well (S39 & S42)

It was a time when I havent Credit Card. I send to him money in envelope.

[napamule]

I worked on the B-314, by Mike Stone, and made it turbo-prop, and worked well in FSX back in Jan 2014. I lost a lot on HDrive crash but have the cfg and air file from external backup. Give me a couple of days (it's 'payday' week) and will let you guys know how it went in FS9 and FSX Accel. Working on the cnt pts is 90% of the 'dynamics' and therfore, how well it 'works'. I'll Be Baaaack.
Chuck B
Napamule

[BendyFlyer]

Are your VC reworks available anywhere, Bendy?

Not yet but I will upload only to SOH when I have some stuff sorted. There are a number of third party gauges used in the panels and hence permission to use etc had to be obtained. I guess I also have tinkered with the making them better or more representative of the real thing. I think I have come as close as I can. There will be:

Solent
Sandringham
Sunderland

The Sunderland will also be a complete rework so the entire sim package for FSX and the Sunderland Mark V only.

When? Not sure at the moment due my need to do other life and work stuff which is agriculturally and horticultural and as where I am is stuck in drought and reduced water, life has other challenges to deal with. Hopefully no later than September.

[Portia911]

No pressure, just interested in seeing the results.
Hope things go well - on and off the land.

[Ian Warren]

No. I'm not. It says for FS2004 or FSX.....Only one way to find out. But it gets terrible reviews!

Cee's , I never never ever knocked peoples work , but this is exactly what I did , I wall mounted the package just to warn me not to go there again! , the package was friggen Horrible , the packaging was doctored to make it look pretty .. this was a real rip off !

[Cees Donker]

Cee's , I never never ever knocked peoples work , but this is exactly what I did , I wall mounted the package just to warn me not to go there again! , the package was friggen Horrible , the packaging was doctored to make it look pretty .. this was a real rip off !

I was aware of this already. But thanks for the warning!



Cees

[Peg o my heart]

LOL !!!!

Is it that bad?

[Cees Donker]

LOL !!!!

Is it that bad?

Obviously! A shame. I Always had a soft spot for the Short planes like the Stirling and Sunderland.

Bummer!

Cees

[JensOle]

[Ian Warren]

LOL !!!!

Is it that bad?

SERIOUSLY THAT BAD , had it been freeware you still would have complained ... but to get charge $50 plus... boy , It was a real shocker .. everyone jokes about why it sits above my PC ... Its just there to warn me ... don't go there again ! ........ They have the packaging done , they have the VC coding done ... would it not be brilliant to bring Jens Kristensen in on the project , a few dollars for him and get a few real Mc'coy Sunderland peoples out there to really switch it on! maybe a Kermit Weeks !

[Cees Donker]

SERIOUSLY THAT BAD , had it been freeware you still would have complained ... but to get charge $50 plus... boy , It was a real shocker .. everyone jokes about why it sits above my PC ... Its just there to warn me ... don't go there again ! ........ They have the packaging done , they have the VC coding done ... would it not be brilliant to bring Jens Kristensen in on the project , a few dollars for him and get a few real Mc'coy Sunderland peoples out there to really switch it on! maybe a Kermit Weeks !

Then the model must have countless flaws. It's not just the textures?


Cees

[Ian Warren]

It's not just the textures?

Its one were I can say, were do I start, so I'm not going to ... , Like yourself need a Brilliant Sunderland , the much well known Jens Kristensen Love to see him on the boat project , man with a name to fame regard to these whooping great flying boats, ... as for the Short Stiling , that would another superb subject , It amazing looking at the engineering station from Pilot and engineer's note ... go to the that area the engineers station and you would think your on the 'TITANIC' or maybe the lessor a large Choo Choo , these large wheeled handles .. taps almost.

[Ian Warren]

I have in collaboration with NZ simmer Adrian Brausch (AB) reworked the JBK into a Sunderland of sorts. AB did the paints and turret textures and I have done the cfg and VC rework.

FSX is a difficult medium to model seaplanes/flying boats (contact points water drag and speeds etc) and the Sunderland took a lot of research to get the aircraft data correct and hence the model to perform realistically in the sim, which it now does.

Hey ya Bendy , I Know Adrian very well , regular chats on TS and phone .. bloody great guy , we had a bit off a history dates maybe almost twenty years .. If ever a project gets up off the bench or kitchen table I'm sure I would be flying up to Auckland and we would hit MOTAT with a vengeance .. current work getting done on real McCoy , the Sunderland , I'll have to dig up the link but also the Solent is in its full glory.

[BendyFlyer]

Well its the MOTAT Sunderland which we have used. Here is the original cockpit:



and this is the reworked FSX cockpit:




The original model was a JBK Hythe reworked backwards to the Sunderland MK V RNZAF. I don't know why but I have done a number of subpanel as pop ups so the Radio Operator and Navigator are nearly done but finding stuff like the original mil spec equipment used in the 40's and 50's is near impossible. Anway nearly done.

The key thing I guess is that there a lots of flying boats if you like that sort of thing. I have spent about three weeks recently doing the S23 or Imperial Airways routes from England to Australia day by day and near the schedule times as I could with Rex Real Weather, a real challenge actually. Combine that with some internet digging in the area and one can have great fun.

[edakridge]

I have received permission from George Diemer to update his Sikorsky S-42 to FSX. He sent me the FSDS source and things are progressing nicely!