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    SSD drives

    Bought a Samsung 500 GB solid state drive to replace the mechanical 2TB drive I had as the primary (boot) drive on my FS box. Installation was easy:

    1. Connect the new SSD via USB.
    2. Run the clone software (provided) to clone the existing C: drive.
    3. Turn off computer, remove old c: drive, replace with SSD unit.
    4. Turn on computer. Done.

    The big mechanical 2TB drive is now installed as a data drive.

    The computer boots much faster than it used to, but I think I was expecting a more dramatic improvement of boot speed. Our IT guy at work is replacing the drives in the graphic artists machines with SSD units, and he seemed very much impressed with the boot-up speed, thus “hyping” my expectations!

    FS boots faster too, but again, I didn't have quite as many exclamation points floating above my head as our IT guy lead me to expect.

    Overall very happy. I've always liked having a small system drive with a separate data drive anyway, but I was trying to save money when I bought this FS box, so went with a single 2TB monster as the single drive.

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    Of course the SSD can't speed up the POST process but I find
    that the OS loads in a few seconds thereafter.

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    What was the cost of that unit, if you don't mind?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fsxar177 View Post
    What was the cost of that unit, if you don't mind?

    - Joseph
    Ordered it from Amazon. Samsung 850 EVO. With shipping, was a smidgen under 200. Went to a local BestBuy, but they didn't have any 500 GB units. 480 GBs, and then 1 TB and above. Our IT guy said he was getting 500 GB units for 150, but I couldn't find any deals like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ncooper View Post
    Of course the SSD can't speed up the POST process but I find
    that the OS loads in a few seconds thereafter.
    Good point. I think the POST takes longer than the OS boot now!
    MB: GIGABYTE GA-X299 UD4 PRO ATX
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    Quote Originally Posted by PRB View Post
    Good point. I think the POST takes longer than the OS boot now!
    make sure to obtain and run Samsung 'Magician' to optimize that SSD - and also remember - Never run Defrag on it
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    Quote Originally Posted by heywooood View Post
    make sure to obtain and run Samsung 'Magician' to optimize that SSD - and also remember - Never run Defrag on it
    Paul it has been a year now that I did just as you describe with the 500 GB SSD. Love the speed that Windows 7 64 bit works. My old 2 TB mechanical drive handles data very nicely.

    heywooood is giving good advice about running Samsung Magician and never running defrag on it.
    Regards, Tom Stovall KRDD


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    Have the Samsung "Magician" installed, but didn't see that it was doing anything useful. Will take a second look. Thanks for the defrag tip...
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    I'm surprised that it;s really that easy to transfer a system drive.. I guess if one wanted, that would free up another storage drive!

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    Paul,

    I was looking at the specs for your motherboard and see that it has both SATA 2 and SATA 3 connectors.

    Make sure the SSD is plugged into a SATA 3 connector or you will not see it's max read/write speeds.

    cheers,
    Lane

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lane Street View Post
    Paul,

    I was looking at the specs for your motherboard and see that it has both SATA 2 and SATA 3 connectors.

    Make sure the SSD is plugged into a SATA 3 connector or you will not see it's max read/write speeds.

    cheers,
    Lane
    Rgr. Knew it had both, and assumed "drive 0" was connected to a SATA 3 connector when it arrived last year or so. Will confirm.
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    that should be correct - I have the same setup on my Mobo...

    also - with an SSD - they get faster after several boots - and - if you run FSX a lot more than most other programs, you will see better loading times after several start ups...typical of all RAM style memory...it holds the most accessed files up out of the soup for faster...errmm..access
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    With that drive you should get like 500MB/sec read times etc...

    Just use this freeware read speed tester to verify it's working fine

    http://www.techspot.com/downloads/67...ed-tester.html

    edit: Oh yeah the magician should have a quick bench too... that will tell you if everything is ok. If you do the performance optimization run the advanced version... takes a while longer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanbatc View Post
    With that drive you should get like 500MB/sec read times etc...

    Just use this freeware read speed tester to verify it's working fine

    http://www.techspot.com/downloads/67...ed-tester.html

    edit: Oh yeah the magician should have a quick bench too... that will tell you if everything is ok. If you do the performance optimization run the advanced version... takes a while longer.
    I was curious re the tester and gave it a go with my drive....came out with an average of 870 MB/sec .....

    Edit...
    Tried the Magician [doesn't recognise an M.2] but gave read/writes of 1252/822.
    Last edited by Jafo; May 17th, 2015 at 20:11.

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    Just ran the optimization tools and I'm getting 449/513 MB/s ( sequential read/write) And it is connected to a SATA 3, as was the original HDD, as expected.
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    Did some Googling on the issue of defragging SS drives. It seems there are differing opinions on this (what a surprise!) Best I can tell, the common wisdom of not defragging them was "more true" when the first SS drives came out, but that with the newer ones, it is "less true". Apparently Windows 7 and above knows all about SSDs, and does defrag them, and that defragging is useful after all. As to the issue of defragging shortening the life of the drive, I suppose that's true of mechanical drives too.
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    CPU: Intel(R) Core™ Processor i9-10900X Ten-Core 3.7GHz
    MEM: 64GB (8GBx8) DDR4/3000MHz Quad Channel
    GPU: RTX 3080 Ti 12GB GDDR6
    OS: Win 10 Pro 64bit
    HP Reverb G2

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    My Samsung SSD only holds my Operating system programs, with all my other stuff running on a HDD. Yes, not the fastest way for loading etc but also using Samsung Magician it does prioritise (if thats the correct phrase) & set the SSD so that its not continually written to & read from, which seems to be a SSD killer.
    My old SSD which had a nervous breakdown due to write/rewrite limit, did recover after reformatting & is now used as a back up device.
    HTH
    Keith

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