Wartime Identification Film

[Ivan]

Here is an interesting short film I came across today.

Mitsubishi Type Zero Fighter Versus Curtiss P-40

I believe it is worth watching.
Perhaps you will see some of the interesting bits I saw.

- Ivan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdZR7sH2Fng

[papingo]

probably unlikely the would let a rookie out on patrol himself.
he would probably fly 'wingman' to a vet ..but it was worth
posting.
there is a TV prog. called Showdown Air Combat 'see if you can
see excerpts of this on the net.

also guy martins spitfire where they are building a Mk1
spitfire from scratch.

>>>papingo

[Ivan]

Did you see anything else interesting?
Besides the lone patrol, I saw three rather noteworthy things.

- Ivan.

[papingo]

give us a clue...
--papingo.

[Ivan]

1. What model of P-40 is being flown here? Do you consider that choice rather odd?
2. The close up shots of the cockpit are not of a Hawk 87. They look more like a Hawk 81 or Hawk 75.
3. When Saunders finally finds a Zero, he is above and behind it and yet he confirms that it has the scoops which are below the cowl which he can't see.
4. Who is the actor playing Lt Saunders in this short film?

- Ivan.

[Ivan]

Hello Papingo,

The Guy Martin Spitfire is beautiful, but there are a couple issues with the videos I saw.
First of all, why show the effects of a .50 Browning M2 when a Spitfire Mk.I never had such a gun as armament?
Next, I find it very odd that an engine mounting bolt is drilled for a safety wire AFTER it has been installed.
The possible differences in thread timing of bolts is why there are multiple locking detents in the nut that holds it on so that a safety wire can be installed wherever it happens to index when tightened.
If you are going to have bolts custom made, perhaps they should be made with consistent timing which I know can be done.

It is still a beautiful aeroplane! Perhaps I need to build one.

- Ivan.

[hubbabubba]

1. What model of P-40 is being flown here? Do you consider that choice rather odd?
2. The close up shots of the cockpit are not of a Hawk 87. They look more like a Hawk 81 or Hawk 75.
3. When Saunders finally finds a Zero, he is above and behind it and yet he confirms that it has the scoops which are below the cowl which he can't see.
4. Who is the actor playing Lt Saunders in this short film?

- Ivan.

Hello Ivan

Put things in perspective, please; for most people, seeing the difference between a P-40 having a Allison or a RR engine is already considered great.

I can tell you, simply looking at a picture, if a jeep was made by Ford or by Willy's, if it is an early or late war grille, or if it is a Korean war model disguised as a WWII. And I still don't drive!

We're the specialist of our models, but very few are.

I know things about the Bf-108 Taifun that owners don't know...

And, btw, everyone knows that the newbie pilot is actually the former president G.W. Bush

[Ivan]

Hello Hubbabubba,

My thoughts were that the audience this discussion is directed toward is made up of aircraft enthusiasts to one extent or another, so being able to tell a Merlin from an Allison P-40 should not be much of a stretch.

The canopy thing takes a little more knowledge but not that much more. Now if you can tell whether it is really a P-36 or early P-40, you know more than I do.

I actually have never been all that interested in Jeeps, but if you care to educate us, I would enjoy it.

As for the Taifun, I am curious, so Please DO educate us on the topic. I actually have a considerable amount of documentation on the 108 but can't say I have reviewed much of it.
I did read a cute little story about the Taifun a while back:
Willi Messerschmitt was going to a meeting along with one of his test pilots.
He wanted to fly the aeroplane himself and told his pilot not to help him or say anything.
When they arrived at the destination, Messerschmitt commented that he would have expected the Taifun to fly a bit faster than it did.
His pilot then told him that the plane would have gone faster with the gear retracted.
He hadn't said anything because he had been told not to....

;-)
Oops.
- Ivan.