Carenado Citation II - Released

**SeanTK** · January 14th, 2015, 14:26

Around US$45...see their website for details:
http://www.carenado.com/CarSite/Port...uct&correl=142

**StormILM** · January 14th, 2015, 14:47

Is a must buy for me as I used to service Citation variants I/II/III back in the day. For now, I will observe comments from initial users & see how they like it while I plan my list of early to mid spring purchases. I was hoping their Hawker 850Xp would have come first but trust me, both will be in my hangar later this spring(after the Hawker comes out).

**Felixthreeone** · January 14th, 2015, 15:07

Seems the Carenado site is a bit overloaded at the moment....Been looking forward to this one for a very, very long time!

**flaviossa** · January 14th, 2015, 16:18

Found a bit step on the price but will get it too.

**ryanbatc** · January 14th, 2015, 17:13

$45 for a lite product? Getting too pricey! I'd expect Navigraph support at that price point.

**Felixthreeone** · January 14th, 2015, 17:56

Wait til the Hawker comes out at $60 or more. Yeah $45 is steep, but Carenado is smart enough to know that there are suckers like me out there that will go for it regardless.

**StormILM** · January 14th, 2015, 17:58

Not sure about what differentiates a Lite product versus something above that threshold but I'd point out in an aircraft like the Citation II the original aircraft did not have FMS systems nor EFIS. Most of the ones I handled back in the day had basic radio nav & dme equipment and Loran-C & RNAV systems. The first GPS units I saw & later FMS systems were very basic universal systems which were pretty limited in function. Looking at this product, it appears that Carenado has achieved a good balance of systems depth and added capability over rudimentary legacy systems found in the real legacy Citations. The real Citation is a very simple straightforward jet to operate.

**Lane Street** · January 14th, 2015, 18:49

$45?????

Think I can wait until it goes on sale.

cheers,
Lane

**stansdds** · January 15th, 2015, 03:07

As usual, Carenado has released a visually appealing aircraft, but I will wait for some reviews and for a sale before deciding.

**Felixthreeone** · January 15th, 2015, 05:54

It's often not a bad idea to simply wait for Carenado to issue the first service pack to a new release before purchasing. In my experience, their products are beta tested by the community, and then the most common bugs fixed. Not a good way to run a company, but one could argue that they are still a thriving entity in the FSX/P3D world so they are clearly doing something right.

**Christoph_T** · January 15th, 2015, 06:15

This bird realy looks great!! I am happy to see that we have a company which is creating busynessjets that we can enjoy!
But to be honest it is a bit expensive in my point of view.
Is it realy necessary that the cost for addons become higher and higher?
Actually I'will think twice about buying something at this price, even if I want to.
Just my thought.

**SeanTK** · January 15th, 2015, 14:41

Purchased and tried it briefly yesterday. Looks fantastic, but need to do more research to see if it "flies right". I did report one issue to Carenado regarding incorrect ITT readings, which shot through the red-line on startup, and stayed on the red line at idle (then strangely enough dipped briefly while adding power, before climbing back to red at 85% thrust).
Carenado responded with a form-letter email stating that they'll take it into consideration for the Service Pack.

Outside of that though, it seems to be a great aircraft. It even has a pulse landing light system, which I have not yet seen on other addons.

**flaviossa** · January 15th, 2015, 15:01

Just for information (And not derail the topic), Aerosoft BushHawk and Baytower RV7 has pulse lights

**SeanTK** · January 15th, 2015, 16:56

Originally Posted by flaviossa

Just for information (And not derail the topic), Aerosoft BushHawk and Baytower RV7 has pulse lights

Good to know! I don't have either of those, and I haven't seen that feature widely advertised, thus my original inaccuracy.
For consumers considering this addon, I recommend waiting until the first Service Pack is released to see what state the aircraft is in at that point.

***fsafranek*** · January 16th, 2015, 06:19

I really like Citations. Pretty much has been my favorite bizjet in Flightsim since probably FS98.
But I've got Bill's Learjet in the hanger that isn't even a month old.
I'll wait a while before seriously considering the new Citation II.

**Mach3DS** · January 16th, 2015, 07:17

Don't they make their aircraft dual compatible? FSX/P3D? They're probably just trying to account for the additional fact that it will be used in 2 sims most likely. Nothing wrong with that in my opinion. Seems like there are people who buy every thing they put out regardless of quality or price. So good for them for capitalizing on it. I'm not one of those people. They do make some of the most visually beautiful models around. this one looks great as well.

**n4gix** · January 16th, 2015, 08:32

Originally Posted by flaviossa

Just for information (And not derail the topic), Aerosoft BushHawk and Baytower RV7 has pulse lights

I coded the Pulselite (TM) system in the Eaglesoft CII and CJ1 over eight years ago. Hardly anyone ever noticed this (then) exclusive feature.

**Anneke** · January 17th, 2015, 06:01

Oh yes we did and used it extensively

**b52bob** · January 17th, 2015, 07:01

Not worth the price. Used to buy all their planes, now much too expensive. Would rather buy Lionhearts aircraft.

***WarHorse47*** · January 17th, 2015, 09:37

They definitely need more sales though out the year. Just one in December doesn't cut it for me. I just paid full price for two of their aircraft, and my wallet is still smokin'

**Cirrus N210MS** · January 17th, 2015, 17:07

i will wait for it to come to justflight where i can use store points to get a discount on it

**Aircanuck** · January 18th, 2015, 15:11

Originally Posted by SeanTK

Purchased and tried it briefly yesterday. Looks fantastic, but need to do more research to see if it "flies right". I did report one issue to Carenado regarding incorrect ITT readings, which shot through the red-line on startup, and stayed on the red line at idle (then strangely enough dipped briefly while adding power, before climbing back to red at 85% thrust).
Carenado responded with a form-letter email stating that they'll take it into consideration for the Service Pack.

Outside of that though, it seems to be a great aircraft. It even has a pulse landing light system, which I have not yet seen on other addons.

Purchased the Citation today, so far so good,

Quick question - is the pulse landing light system something you've coded or a flick of a switch in the cockpit ? not seeing it on my set up ?

**SeanTK** · January 18th, 2015, 15:59

Originally Posted by Aircanuck

Purchased the Citation today, so far so good,

Quick question - is the pulse landing light system something you've coded or a flick of a switch in the cockpit ? not seeing it on my set up ?

See here:

**Aircanuck** · January 18th, 2015, 17:06

.... cheers !

**SeanTK** · January 26th, 2015, 18:01

Service Pack / Patch 1 has been released.

S550 Citation II FSX/P3D Service Pack 1 20150126

Fixes
ITT over limit
N1 digital readout over 100%
FMS time issue
EHSI layout
Fuel consumption with engines off
TCAS issue
USA flag turned around in some liveries
Autopilot pitch knob adjusted
Some tooltips showing wrong information
Flap mouse manipulation issue
Other minor issues

Improvements
N1 reference box implemented
Gear unlocked light implemented
Flight dynamics improved in climb
Climb, takeoff, landing and other new information added to the Performance document

Customers just have to log into their accounts at carenado.com to get it.
You don t need this service pack if you downloaded the product after January 26th, 2015 1630 GMT

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