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    Need Aircraft Skin and Airfile Assistance BPF

    Okay Guys,

    I am ready to finish BPF attacks of the Ryuku Islands and proceed to the Japanese homeland the summer and fall of 1945.

    Here is what I need to finish up the BPF campaign. I would like air and dp files reconfigured to accurately model flight dynamics and ordinance the mods made by the British.

    Royal Navy modifications of the Chance Vought Corsairs included “squaring-off” the wing tips to reduce folded height so that the aircraft could fit into the low hangars of British armored carriers. The alteration was found to improve deck landings by eliminating “float” over the arrester wires.

    Also, a small spoiler was fitted on the leading edge of the starboard, inboard wing to ensure that it always dropped first, and modification of oleo struts eliminated “bounce” on landing. The Royal Navy fitted its Corsairs with British lead-computing gun sights, crystal frequency-controlled radios, and IFF equipment. (The British gyro gun sight Mark 2 fitted to Royal Navy fighters from early 1944 is an interesting example of “reverse Lend-Lease”; it was manufactured under license in the United States for U.S. Navy and Army Air Forces planes.) Royal Navy Corsair squadrons formed in the United States at the rate of one a month from mid-1943.


    The British navy also received more than 1,000 Grumman Hellcat fighters, which it originally named Gannets. (All U.S.-built aircraft in British service reverted to their American names in January 1944.) These included small batches of F6F-5N night fighters that were to have joined the British Pacific Fleet with the night-fighter carrier HMS Ocean . While the British made no airframe modifications to their Hellcats, they did make internal changes similar to those in their Corsairs. A small number also were modified with cameras and used for strategic photo-reconnaissance with 888 Naval Air Squadron.

    The United States also transferred more than 800 Grumman Avengers to the Royal Navy. The performance of the U.S. plane was superior to that of the British Fairey Barracuda torpedo and dive bomber, but the British Avengers were still extensively modified in the United Kingdom by Blackburn Aircraft. While a U.S. Navy Avenger crew consisted of a pilot, radioman/tunnel gunner, and turret gunner, a Royal Navy strike aircraft crew was composed of a pilot, observer/flight officer, and telegraphist/air gunner. The British Avengers’ internal arrangements were modified to place the observer in a cockpit behind the pilot, under the canopy.

    Also, the “stinger” tunnel machine gun was removed from the ventral position, and bulged windows replaced the flat ones in the radio compartment to give better visibility aft and below. As with the fighters, Avengers were fitted with British radios, IFF, and gun sights. But because the planes were never modified to carry British torpedoes and BPF commanders elected not to use U.S. torpedoes, the Avengers only dropped bombs.

    Do I have any volunteers to make some British modifications to Corsairs, Hellcats, and Avengers?
    Thank you in advance.
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    If anyone does work on the Avenger it would be nice to have a post war/Korean war COD version. All the guns were removed. I have a pic of one somewhere.

    DD, Can you find any pics of the BPF Corsairs? How much was trimed. I believe I have one in Gmax already. Now I can't do the animations but I could start the on the wings and maybe the other bits. First I'll look and see if I have it.
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    Lee,

    Hello again!

    And what about dis here specimen? http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...tid=52&id=6463

    "And they shall call him...Rami-san"
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    I think the repaints have been done (unless I missed something?) Let me know if you need anything others - I've been eyeing up the FDG F6F-5 Hellcat for a while now (as a Hellcat II)...

    dp files were also included in the uploads for the DW Corsair II, AH Seafire III & Firefly

    I wonder if the K-14 style gunsight can be incorporated like Pepe did when converting some of Scrubbys late WW2 fighters? I'll take a look at the recent La-11 to see how he managed to get it to display in the 2D cockpit & VC cockpit, maybe I can reproduce it in the others.

    I never did revisit the dp file for the Corsair IV, so that needs doing, as do the Hellcats & Avengers.

    Reproducing the aircrew layout for the Avenger might be troublesome, so I agree that might need a tweaked OH model (or new model).

    Bit of a newb when it comes to panels & gauges, but if no-one else can help, I'll give it a shot.

    Remember the BPF used US ordnance too.

    (PS look what Santa's bringing me ... http://www.pen-and-sword.co.uk/The-B...c-Fleet/p/3091)

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    Wow, expensive book; $54. conversion rate.

    Though, I might be able to free up some USD to acquire that one.

    Thanks guys, I will incorporate what you all have contributed thus far and keep working.

    I really appreciate the help here.

    Maybe Santa will have a Christmas present under the tree in a completed BPF campaign........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devildog73 View Post
    Wow, expensive book; $54. conversion rate.
    Try this: http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/Sear...48320482&sts=t $45 including shipping may not be much better, but it might help a little bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleTgt View Post

    (PS look what Santa's bringing me ... http://www.pen-and-sword.co.uk/The-B...c-Fleet/p/3091)
    This is excellent: very comprehensive and well-illustrated - up there with the best that P & S have to offer.

    You must have been a very good boy this year, Uncle.

    Cheers
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    EDIT: an old account but much cheaper and still a good read: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Task-Force-5.../dp/0947554858
    Last edited by blohmundvoss; December 7th, 2014 at 04:50.

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    Thanks P51FAN,
    I like the price much better!

    Quote Originally Posted by P51FAN View Post
    Try this: http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/Sear...48320482&sts=t $45 including shipping may not be much better, but it might help a little bit.
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    Wow, Christmas all over the place!
    Thanks blohmundvoss!

    Quote Originally Posted by blohmundvoss View Post
    This is excellent: very comprehensive and well-illustrated - up there with the best that P & S have to offer.

    You must have been a very good boy this year, Uncle.

    Cheers
    BuV

    EDIT: an old account but much cheaper and still a good read: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Task-Force-5.../dp/0947554858
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    I can already tell I am going to have to build and upload two BPF campaigns; a full version for high end machines and a LITE version for non-gaming systems.

    I have a fairly decent system which gives me FPS so high they run well above 170+ just flying around in free flight.

    With some of these missions I am down in the mid-30s, which is respectable for CFS2 to not hesitate.

    And, I am running a WIN7X64 system with an Intel duo core 2.4 GB CPU, 6 GB system RAM, and 2 GB on-board, not shared, R7 260X XFX Radeon vid card with two cooling fans.

    Even when I boot into WIN7X32 I don't lose the vid card RAM or 2.4 GB duo core CPU and it still sees 3 GB of system RAM. More than enough for CFS2 maxed out on all sliders.

    When I was running an nVidia GeForce 9800GT with 1 GB on-board RAM tweaked to CFS2 for performance, again I could free fly with 150+FPS. Some of these missions got down to 15-17 FPS.
    Not only did I get a slide show, the graphics looked video game-ish instead of our usual wonderful CFS2 scenery.

    So, long-story-short of it for the LITE version, fewer aircraft in the sky, fewer ships in the convoys, fewer ground scenery objects, and no clouds in the sky.

    I will not delay uploading the full version when it is done, but I will follow it a few weeks later with the LITE version.

    DD73
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    Devildog73,

    You can still use this thread for campaign updates, I just thought it made more sense to move the P-38 Lightning and Avenger posts into their respective threads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rami View Post
    Devildog73,

    You can still use this thread for campaign updates, I just thought it made more sense to move the P-38 Lightning and Avenger posts into their respective threads.

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    Are there BPF nationality screens available somewhere, or at least a generic FAA set ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roxane-21 View Post
    Are there BPF nationality screens available somewhere, or at least a generic FAA set ?

    Roxane,

    There are the generic British nationality screens that have been around for years, but BPF specific, no, not that I am aware of.

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    DD........

    .......did you look here for it? http://www.amazon.com/The-British-Pa.../dp/1591140447

    Here is what be called a "cliff notes" version in PDF http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...,d.aWw&cad=rja

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fibber View Post
    .......did you look here for it? http://www.amazon.com/The-British-Pa.../dp/1591140447

    Here is what be called a "cliff notes" version in PDF http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...,d.aWw&cad=rja

    Fibber,
    Roxane was looking for BPF start and load screens I believe. (UIRES).
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    Ddog...........

    I was addressing that message to you about the book concerning the British Pacific Fleet.

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    UIRES.

    There are no British Pacific Fleet UIRES made yet.

    I know about the books.

    The books perhaps would provide a great place to design UIRES from.
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    Then this one and others like it contained in the British Nationality add-on.

    http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...id=173&id=6326
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devildog73 View Post
    Then this one and others like it contained in the British Nationality add-on.

    http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...id=173&id=6326
    Thank you for your answer. I already have Ajax' screen packs, I was only wondering about a dedicated BPF one but obviously there are none.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roxane-21 View Post
    Thank you for your answer. I already have Ajax' screen packs, I was only wondering about a dedicated BPF one but obviously there are none.
    No, and I wish I knew how to make them.

    I would certainly do some up for the BPF Campaign.
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    Speaking of which...

    Anyone know how to do UIRES?

    We could sure use some Royal Navy UIRES, especially BPF UIRES.......
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    I would look for a set that you can change to fit the BPF. The one that Roxane-21 posted can't be changed (it is in the read me)... Doing the backgrounds should be too hard. They are .JPG. It is medals, rank insignia and coding that is a pain.
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    Do you care if most of the photos used will need to be B&W? I've got about a dozen color BPF photos that can be used but even then some of them are taken at shore bases.
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