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    Hi everybody.

    I had announced earlier that I the opportunity to meet Italian Air Force ace Luigi Gorrini, still alive at the time, was offered to me. Unfortunately, the meeting was postponed due to his health problems. I just received news that he passed away three days ago.

    He was the last surviving Italian WWII fighter pilot. He was undoubtedly old at 97 years of age, yet what pushed him over was the loss of his beloved wife few months ago. Since then, I was told that he refused to see anyone and even rejected medical treatment.

    Luigi Gorrini was born in Alseno, province of Piacenza, less than 8 km from my hometown. He was a youth fried of my uncle's, mother side, and also well known by my father family. Sadly, I never had the chance to meet him.

    He joined Regia Aeronautica before WWII and entered in action with his unit in June, 1940. He flew a Fiat Cr.42 biplane on the French-Italian front, then he was sent with the Italian Corpo di Spedizione to Ursel, Belgium, to join the Battle of Britain in November 1940. There he met and made friend with Werner Molders, who provided better cold climate equipment for the Italian aviators, all ill-equipped to fly at those latitudes. Gorrini received from Molders a Luftwaffe mae-west, which he wore throughout the entire WWII and afterwards. He still had it at present time. During the BoB he had a close encounter with RAF ace Peter Townsend and both wounded each other slightly, only to meet after the war and become friends. Molders was starting transitioning Italian fighter pilots onto the Bf109E, when Italy gave up the BoB expedition.

    Gorrini's unit was then sent to the North African front, re-equipped with Macchi C.200's first, replaced later by Macchi C.202's. There, he witnessed the death of Luftwaffe ace Hans Joachim Marseille. In the beginning of 1943 his unit was called back to Italy and chosen to defend Roma from the increasing Allied air war activity, while his unit started receiving the first Macchi C.205 Veltros.

    After the 09/08/1943 Italian armistice, he joined the Northern Italian fascist republican air force instead of the co-belligerant air force, because he felt he had to defend his family and his friends, trapped by the armistice in Northern Italy, behind German front lines.

    In his 2011 interview, recorded on DVD, he stated: "Not a single RSI (fascist Italian Social Republic, the part of Italy not yet liberated, a puppet state in the hands of the Germans) fighter pilot chose to fly for them because he was a convinced fascist. Not even because we were ashamed Italy had betrayed the Germans, like someone later wrote. We were all born here and we were all front-line veterans, we knew what bombs could do to people."

    The increasing Allied tactical air offensive, designed to force the German armies occupying Central and Northern Italy to an early surrender, thus strangling Germany, was targeting civilian towns and cities. In Italy, with its limited territorial configuration, industrial settlements were (in many cases still are) right at the outskirts of towns, sometimes in the middle, including main railways, railyards and other tactical targets the Germans could use to supply their troops.

    In an age when a bomb hitting within 500 yards from the target was considered "on target", keeping civilian involvement and losses to a minimum was almost impossible. So, RSI fighter units, against overwhelming odds, tried to disperse Allied bombers before they reached civilian settlements, flying together the few Luftwaffe units still active. Always with their families and loved ones in mind, the same tragedy of war for everybody all over.
    During this period, Gorrini, was awarded by the Luftwaffe with an Iron Cross.

    When the war ended here on April 25th, 1945, Gorrini and other RSI pilots were arrested by Italian communist partisans and jailed on charge of cooperation with the enemy. Some of them, like RSI 1o Gruppo commander Adriano Visconti, were treacherously and summarily executed without trial by the partisans. Gorrini spent in jail quite some time, but with the onset of the Cold War and the need for experienced pilots for the newly born republican Italian Air Force, he was official pardoned by the Italian President and joined the I.A.F. until he retired in the early 1970's. He even flew F-84F with the 1950's aerobatic military team "Getti Tonanti".

    But the pardon for having fought for "the wrong side" after the armistice never came fully. He deserved the Gold Medal for Military Valour, same as the Congressional Medal of Honour in the U.S., for his war combat records, but the award was always stopped in a way or another until he finally received it overdue many years later. He was the only WWII pilot alive to be awarded a Gold Medal for Military Valour. The few others were all awarded post-humously.

    Gorrini flew for Regia Aeronautica Fiat CR.32, Fiat CR.42, Fiat G.50, Macchi C.200, Macchi C.202 and Macchi C.205. For RSI he flew Macchi C.205 primarily and, on occasions Fiat G.55. He also had the chance to fly Bf109s, but never in combat.

    With the post-WWII republican IAF he flew P-51D Mustang, F-86F Sabre, F-84F Thunderstreak and F-104G/S Starfighter.

    The attached below is the profile of the Macchi C.205 he flew for RSI. The profile depicts also the Gold Medal for Military Valour I wrote about.

    May you fly forever in blue, peaceful skies, Luigi Gorrini. RIP.

    Stefano 'kelticheart' Denti
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    Stefano,

    Damn. Thanks for letting us know. May he rest in peace. I retained this PM from you, and thought I would share its contents...

    Hi Andrew,

    "I haven't reported anything yet about my possible chance to meet Italian WWII fighter pilot Luigi Gorrini, because I was contacted by the people who were supposed to to take me there twice already with discomforting news.

    Mr. Gorrini lost his wife a few months ago, I didn't know about that. Since then, he fell in a deep depression state, which is affecting his health status very negatively. They are trying to pull him out of it, but, apparently, hopes for success are very little.

    I was told only two days ago that he keeps staying in bed all the time in total darkness and he doesn't want to see anyone. Considering he is 97 year-old, this is an extremely bad sign. This week, his physician will try a blood transfusion to see if it'll help stabilizing him, but they are fighting a hard battle to convince him to do it.

    In the mentime, I finally received a 70 minutes DVD I ordered, containing his 2011 interview with cuts and photos of his WWII service. I could see him flying over Genova in the very first weeks Italy joined WWII. He is piloting a Fiat CR.42 and I can confirm that Erafitti's repaint of Thicko's CR.42 match exactly the fuselage codes and 85a Squadriglia, 3o Gruppo squadron emblem of Gorrini's aircraft.

    Same mount he was sent with, a few months later, to Ursel with the C.A.I. expeditionary force. You might want to consider it for your C.A.I. campaign update. If you want, I can send you also my correction of Erafitti's repaint, since he reversed the "85-2" code on one side of the CR.42 fuselage. I simply swapped the numbers around.

    Italian fighter squadron fuselage ID is very simple and it remained the same for the last 70+ years. It's exactly like RAF WWII markings, other than the British system is based on letters.

    The first is the squadron (squadriglia) #, the second is the individual plane #. Gorrini always wore #2 in the R.A., callsign "Vespa 2" (Hornet 2). You might also suggest SC's repaint of Mauro Giacomazzi's Hurricane MkIa no. 85 Squadron (funny that the two opponents belonged to two units numbered the same, isn't it?) in RAF ace Peter Townsend VY-J livery, to simulate the encounter Gorrini and Townsend had over the Channel, where both of them lightly wounded each other, without shooting the other down.

    What's very interesting in Gorrini's recorded interview, is that he state he witnessed Joachim Marseille's plunge to death in Northern Africa. You might want to use this for your pupils.

    I quote from Luigi Gorrini:

    "Marseille, contrary to WWII accounts, was not shot down and killed in combat. He made a fatal mistake when he bailed out of his burning 109, I saw it happen and remember it as it if happened yesterday. I told the Germans commanders what happened.

    Back in WWII, when a fighter pilot had to bail out, the safest technique to carry out a successful jump was to undo the seat harness first, eject or open the canopy, reverse the plane and push the stick forward to lift the plane's nose, while in reversed flight attitude. This was taught by all instructors of all air forces in the world.

    With this sequence of actions, the centrifugal forces threw you out of your seat, to which you were not strapped anymore, while the weight of the engine dragged the aircraft nose down again, helping you clear vertical fin and tailplane.

    That day I was flying tail-end-Charlie covering the retreat of our G.50 fighter bombers we were escorting, Marseille's flight nearby. There were not enemy fighters close to us, when, all of a sudden, Marseille's 109 started smoking and caught fire shortly thereafter, an obvious engine overheat failure due perhaps to previous battle damage which had gone unnoticed by Marseille.

    Against all logic, Marseille kept his plane in level flight, I saw the canopy fly away. Contrary to our 202s, the Bf109 had a canopy eject mechanism, very nice in case you had to get out quickly. Then I saw Marseille getting out of his cockpit, the plane still in level flight and starting to nose down. As soon as he lifted himself out of his seat, the wind caught him, ripped him out and threw him against the tail of the plane.

    Somehow Marseille had managed to open his chute, but his harness remained caught in the vertical fin and he was dragged to his death by his plunging 109.

    To this day, I still wonder how an expert veteran pilot, like Joachim Marseille was, managed to make such a stupid error. I can only say this, since I was forced to bail out three times during the war, in those brief moments it's all instinct and very little, if none at all, calm thinking."

    Fascinating, and dramatic, testimony, isn't it?"

    I lost your previous PM about setting up Townsend to meet Enzo Ferrari and drive on the motor circuit.
    "Rami"

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    Fascinating post Kelti, thanks for sharing. You said he was an ace. How many victories is he credited with and do you know in which theaters (BoB, N. Africa, Italy)?

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    God of strength and of glory
    who gives the rainbow to our skies
    we go up into Your light to sing
    with the thunder of our engines
    thee glory and our passion.
    We are human but we go up to You
    forgetting the weight of our flesh
    purified of our sins.
    you,God,give us the eagles'wings,
    the eagles'sight,the eagles'claws
    to bring, wherever You give light,
    the love,the flag,the glory of Italy and of Rome.
    Make it,in peace,of our flight the bravest flight:
    Make it,in war,of our strength
    Your strength,o Lord,
    so as no shadow skims our land.
    and be always with us,as we are with You,
    for ever.

    Dio di potenza e di gloria
    che doni l’arcobaleno ai nostri cieli
    noi saliamo nella Tua luce per cantare,
    con il rombo dei nostri motori
    la Tua gloria e la nostra passione .
    Noi siamo uomini ma saliamo verso di Te
    dimentichi del peso della nostra carne
    purificati dei nostri peccati.
    Tu, Dio, dacci le ali delle aquile,
    lo sguardo delle aquile, l’artiglio delle aquile,
    per portare, ovunque Tu doni la luce,
    l'amore, la bandiera, la gloria d’Italia e di Roma .
    Fa, nella pace, dei nostri voli il volo piu ardito:
    fa, nella guerra, della nostra forza
    la Tua forza, o Signore,
    perche nessuna ombra sfiori la nostra terra.
    E sii con noi, come noi siamo con Te,
    per sempre.

    Riposa in Pace

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    Hey Kelti,

    I found the original post you sent me...

    "I want to share this little thing that happened to me yesterday. In the Italian website created by a group of WWII airplane crash site researchers (I posted the link in Giuseppe's IS4G BR20 repaint pack announcement), besides the pages dedicated to Luigi Gorrini, there is a section where one can write to them. I found it just yesterday, while doing a Goggle search with "Luigi Gorrini" as a search key.

    They are located in the neighbouring province of Piacenza (where the San Damiano airport is), so I wrote them my congratulations for the simplicity, yet technical accuracy, of their website. I also expressed my desire to meet personally the Italian WWII ace Luigi Gorrini, who happened to be a great friend of one of my uncles and also known by my father's family. He's over 95 year-old and the chance to shake his hand before it's too late is quite small.

    Guess what? They called me on the phone last night and they told me they are going to talk to him and that they'll take me to meet him.

    Isn't it great? I'll have the chance to talk to a real WWII pilot, who even flew with the disgraceful C.A.I. in the Battle of Britain!

    After the conflict Gorrini took part to a veteran flyer reunion and met RAF Hurricane ace Peter Townsend. The two of them met in combat over the Channel and managed to wound each other without shooting the other down. Both were lightly wounded in the legs, but never knew who was the other opponent until that day. Townsend was curious to know who was that Italian pilot who was able to fight back an Hurricane with an obsolete Fiat CR.42 and the two became friends, just like Adolf Galland with Robert Stanford-Tuck.

    To the point that Gorrini, who knew Enzo Ferrari, took Townsend to the Ferrari racing car factory in Maranello (Modena) and Townsend, a sports car fanatic, was presented with the opportunity to drive a Formula 1 test car on the Ferrari test track!

    Isn't it amazing how so many opposing WWII pilots, once enemies, became friends after being forced to fight each other?

    Many times I meditated over the fact that the generations who were forced to fight WWII were a breed apart. I am not that sure that in present day's world situation, should another world conflict erupt, enemies would become friends afterwards."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rami View Post
    Stefano,

    Damn......
    Hi Rami,

    that was precisely my reaction. Both for the loss of one of the last witnesses of the WWII tragedy and because I definitely lost the opportunity of meeting him.

    More pictures from Gorrini's personal archives were published, I am attaching them and a couple should be of particular interest to you. The first one depicts Fiat CR42s of 18o Gruppo, 85a Squadriglia, on the ground in Frankfurt airport after completing their first leg of the C.A.I. transfer to Ursel, Belgium, in late October 1940. The second shows the CR.42 of Sergente Pilota Salvadori, captured by the RAF and already with British roundels, I imagine at the Boscombe Down, or Martlesham Heat, test airports. This CR.42 is currently on display at the Imperial War Museum in London, it's the same that was photographed standing on her nose after Sgnt. Salvadori's forced landing due to engine loss of oil pressure. Gorrini explained that the emergency landing went well until the undercarriage met a ditch and the aircraft ended up on her nose.

    The third one is Gorrini's Luftwaffe maewest, which he used even after WWII. The last two pictures depict Gorrini during the 1960's standing by the side of his F-84F and the last one shows him standing by the side of an Italian Air Force pilot during one of the last WWII memorial ceremonies he could attend to.

    CODY COYOTE:

    Gorrini is officially credited with 19 aerial victories, but his personal tally is higher because the other 7 victories he achieved while flying with the A.N.R. were not credited by the Italian Air Force. These bring his personal record up to 26 victories in aerial combat, making him the top scoring Italian fighter pilot of WWII. Gorrini states in his memories that he shot down a few more, but under the fascist regime pilots who were not commissioned officers were discriminated against with combat victory credits.
    While officers were believed on their word of honour and one witness, all the others needed two witnesses to confirm it, plus the remains of their downed aircrafts had to fall within Italian front lines and be located. It meant, for example, that aerial victories achieved over the sea with the downed aircraft crashed in the water and subsequently sank, were credited to officers only.

    Gorrini held that the airplanes he downed always fell inland, within front lines and their remains were always located. He also always stated that he never aimed at the opponent pilot's cockpit, always at his aircraft engine, fuel tanks or control surfaces.
    He never shot at a pilot or crewmember hanging from a parachute and he reported other pilots who did it, who in turn were punished or even grounded by their commanding officers, both Italian and German. He even threw his water canteen to a British pilot he had downed in the middle of the Sahara desert.

    Gorrini achieved his first aerial victory against a Bristol Blenheim MkIV in North Africa, flying a Fiat CR.42 on the Libyan front. He fought there until the Axis final retreat in early 1943. After the Allied invasion of Sicily, the 85a Sq. was posted in defence of Roma until the September 8th, 1943 armistice. He then joined the Aviazione Nazionale Repubblicana (the fascist Northern Italy air force), or A.N.R., and fought until the end of WWII in Italy on April 25th, 1945.

    KH
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    Terrific story, detail and photos Kelti - thanks

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    I agree....

    A wonderful story.

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    Hi Stefano,
    Take a look at your messages BOX.

    I prepared the Gorrini's livery for my C.205V, I'm waiting for the corrected text from Kelticheart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvg3d View Post
    Hi Stefano,
    Take a look at your messages BOX.

    I prepared the Gorrini's livery for my C.205V, I'm waiting for the corrected text from Kelticheart.

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    Outstanding artwork, Manuele! Check my reply to your PM and.....

    Thank you very much!




    Yes, folks, I took the liberty to bug Manuele asking him to repaint his magnificent Macchi C.205 model in Luigi Gorrini's, 1st Squadriglia, 1st Gruppo A.N.R., livery, according to the profile I posted above.

    Now it's my turn in to convert MVG3d's splendid C.205 to CFS2. Another top-priority project on my list that I haven't been able to tackle yet because my application to obtain 48-hrs days, instead of just 24, hasn't been accepted yet by the upper floors Directional Centre.

    Perhaps Pepe might like to step in to help.......

    Cheers!
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