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    I am glad that you like the repaint. The camo version will come later, when I have finished the last details on the alu version. I hope that I can get your permission to publish the repaint(s) on the same websites where your original plane can be found?

    BTW, does your Danish exterior model have underwing pods for the 2 Madsen 20 mm cannons that they experimented with on J-42 (with poor results)?



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    On the 10th of May 1940 the D-XXI No 219 was flown by Ltn Henk van Overvest. He was a remarkable pilot but I will tell you more about him when I have made more progress with his aircraft.

    He flew with 1e JaVa (1st Fighter unit) from de Kooy. 1e JaVa was one of the two units from the Dutch military aviation section which had a squadron logo. It is unclear were the three mice came from, but the "pointy shoe" was obviously handy to kick somebody.

    Will be continued.......


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    @Kim: the Danish model I have now, is in fact the 'late' model, so the way the airframes looked when painted in camo. That means: no guns, no sleeves around the landing gear strut. I made a pic of this one:



    @Huub: nice to see! Can it be included in the next update or will finishing the texture take a long time?

    Edit: the 'early' Danish D.21 version, like the one with Madsen, will be used as an approach to the Finnish exterior. First though that Danish VC of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutcheeseblend View Post
    @Huub: nice to see! Can it be included in the next update or will finishing the texture take a long time?
    Daan,

    No problem for me. As I want to add some shading and realistic weathering it will take a few weeks before it is finished. When you can wait this long with your update, you can include this livery in your update.

    I'm also planning to do a "high number livery". This will most likely be the 236 flown by Henk Sitter. He made 8 combat flight in the D-XXI in just 4 days.
    I was deeply touched by his comment: "When you receive orders to fly to Rotterdam and they tell you that there are 70 enemy planes active in this area and you will go there with 6, you will realise that the fact there are 70 isn't important anymore. You just have to do what you are told to do."

    As I will use the same shading and a part of the weathering as on the 219 it will take less time to produce the 236.

    Cheers,
    Huub

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    Hi Daan

    Thanks for the info. I can see that there is no real need for me to make a camo repaint then....

    Regards
    Kim

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    Before the war Henk van Overvest was an instructor with the KLM (Royal Dutch Airlines) and a reserve pilot with LVA (Army Aviation section). When war became unavoidable the the Dutch mobilised their army and Henk was assigned to 1e JaVa (first fighter section). The Netherlands tried to stay out of the was as they had managed to do in the WWI. This meant that the Netherlands had to defend their neutrality. After Great-Britain declared war to Germany in September 1939, both parties violated the Dutch borders. 1ste JaVa was moved to from Schiphol airport near Amsterdam to Eelde airfield in the north-east of the Netherlands. Here Henk had his first contact with foreign aircraft which had croosed the Dutch borders.

    Of the many incidents Henk's contact with a Dornier Do.18 is worth mentioning. On 13 Spetember 1939, after a call that a Donier Do.18 had landed near the Dutch island "Schiermonnikoog" a patrol took off from Eelde to force it to stay at sea or to intercept. When the patrol of 3 aircraft saw the Dornier they fired in front of the aircraft to prevent it to take off. The Dornier set course back towards the Dutch coast, however when the D.XXI turned to return to their base the German aircraft tried to escape.
    Now the patrol leader aimed at the Dornier and hit it. The aircraft was damaged and the crew had to leave it and rowed back to the Dutch coast.
    Henk was patrol member but had not shot the Dornier. When the patrol returned at Eelde they found an angry radioman, who called the pilots killers. He told the surprised pilots they could easily have killed the Germans........

    On 19 November 1939 Henk scored his first kill. He spotted a Heinkel He-111 above the Waddenzee on its way back to Germany. His patrol members didn't notice the aircraft so he attacked the aircraft alone. He followed the Heinkel, which tried to escape in the low clouds. By that time his patrol members had joined the fight as well. The Heinkel went down just over the Dutch-German border. Henk's aircraft got hit during this incident. And not only by German bullets as the engine was hit several time by his own patrol members......

    To be continued....






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    Thank you very much Huub!
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    Work in progress.......



    But nearly there.............



    Cheers,
    Huub

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    It is beautiful Huub, weathering from a master!

    Btw, I confirmed yesterday the LOD problem (gunsight visible with the early model). Will be fixed in the first update.
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    Great addition! Fantastic work...

    When is this beauty going to be released... and where?

    Cheers,
    G.

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    "G", the repaint had not been released as I still want to do some final adjustments. Whether it will be a separate repaint or will be part of the future update of the D-XXI is up to Daan to decide.

    Cheers,
    Huub

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    The last surviving original Dutch Fokker D-XXI

    As the 229 might be needed for a lecture, I took a break from the 219 (Overvest) and started on the 229 (Roos).

    The 229 was flown by Sergeant Koos Roos on 11 May 1940. A formation of 3 Fokker D-XXIs was escorting 2 T.V bombers on an bombing mission. Just before they reached their target they were intercepted by 12 Messerschmitt Bf110s. Roos was attacked by 3 Bf110s. After he had been hit several times he released his canopy, which hit one of the chasing Bf110s and caused one of the engines of this Bf110 to stop. Roos decided to use one of the few clouds to hide. When he flew out of the cloud he was positioned immediately behind one of the Bf110s. He didn't hesitate and opened fire. The Bf110 went down, but Roos was hit by another Bf110.
    Badly wounded he decided to jump. He had a broken arm, was hit several times in his leg, had severe burns and quite an amount of shrapnel in his body, but managed to use his parachute.
    His aircraft crashed, but in 1993 it was excavated and is now the only surviving Dutch Fokker D-XXI. Form the parts a reconstruction is made, which was one of the very useful sources for the model.

    Roos remained in hospital until 25 Ocober 1942(!). After the war he joined the Royal Dutch Air Force. He was killed in a helicopter crash in 1956.

    One of the T-V bombers was shot and from the escorting D-XXI only one managed to return to its base. The other D-XXI which was shot was the 213 flown by Ltn Focquin de Grave.

    What is left of the original 229



    and the virtual 229




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    Great choice of repaints Huub. And well done.



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    Quote Originally Posted by huub vink View Post
    It is unclear were the three mice came from,...
    IIRC it comes from 'Zet 'm op, witte muizen ! " . Are you familiar with that expression, Huub ?... I believe i've got that from the little "HuBoBè " book (Huisje, Boompje, Beestje, i.e. treetop flying ) that i still have.

    Fantastic model by Daan ! Just got it the other day. Great repaints too !

    ( late 1960's i worked at the Ahold account department in Zaandam. One day one of my colleagues came to me with three quite large books. " Here, Jan " he said, " seems to me they belong much more to you than to me " . It proved to be 3 books that an uncle of his 'resqued' from the Fokker workshop just after the Germans had invaded Holland. One book of the Fokker S-9, one of the G-1, and one of the D-21. One book has a bit of 'water damage' but otherwise the're still in very good condition. I'm not sure about the value of these books. I believe i saw even a complete collection of the D-21 books (about 4 IIRC) at an aviation hobby fair a long time ago at the Aviodome. So it sure wasn't all that bad in those days at Ahold 'Debiteuren/Crediteuren' ... )

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    Thanks guys! The unwrapping of the textures is very well done, therefore it is a joy to repaint this aircraft. Where British aircraft all were painted in either the standard A or B scheme, the Dutch aircraft all had their unique scheme. They were hand-sprayed in series of four aircraft which looked reasonably similar. The scheme I did on the 219 is based on pictures from the 217 and 220 as there are no known pictures from the 219. However for the 229 it is completely known how it was painted as it made an emergency landing in November 1939 which ended in a "nose stand". There are photographs available of this event made from all angles. This is most likely also the reason why this aircraft had black/orange tip on the propeller instead of the common red/white blue as at least one of the propeller blades was damaged.

    Jan, I know the expression, but when said "Zet 'm op, witte muizen!" (something like: "give it your best effort, white mice") the link with mice was already made. It was an expression used both in the aviation section as with the infantry. Some people say it came from the song called "in de Witte muis" by Louis Noret aka Kobus Kuch (http://www.leger1939-1940.nl/Liedjes/muis.htm), but other say it was a common expression in the Netherlands East Indies. And it was also a name used for the soldiers which were called for duty, which didn't have any previous experience. The fact there were 3 mice in the nose was most likely based on the fact that the standard Dutch strength of a patrol was 3.

    Cheers,
    Huub






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    I got to do some formation flying too!

    Javis, thanks, hope you enjoy Please, can you make a photograph of the book(s)??
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    Hey Daan, here's a couple photo's of the D-21 book. It comprises lots of text, lots of drawings (some folding) and a fair amount of b/w photo's.

    For the other two books i have to take raincheck. Can't find them at the moment. I am quite a bit chaotic, books and stuff all over the place... ;-)

    Btw, i fulfilled my D-21 duty already in FS98 i think it was. Original model by Rhys.D.Webb IIRC for which i did some mods and a 2D panel. Great to see it back in FSX in such glorious fashion ! Well done, my friend !

    @ Huub : no doubt you've seen this ?... http://www.bhummel.dds.nl/gif/1JAVADK.html ( just in kees.. ;-)

    Groetjens,
    Jan







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    Wow Jan, you got the original! Take care of that thing!

    Now, you're one of the very few who can check whether my work is technically correct or not...
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    Amazing snowmans of the scenario HA HA HA!
    +1 Zsolt! :thumbup: It's really good!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mirage3 View Post
    Amazing snowmans of the scenario HA HA HA!
    +1 Zsolt! :thumbup: It's really good!
    Thanks!
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    Very nice that one with the orange belly!

    But: the colors of the 221 should be the same as on my 213 paint The Dutch Army Air Corps used a three-tone scheme: camo brown, camo green and camo beige. Unfortunately, the true colors are unknown today. The 221 in the museum at Soesterberg is painted in the wrong colors (anyway, that's what most people say ). I decided to use the three colors as provided by the simmerspaintshop: http://www.simmerspaintshop.com/inde...colors-Holland

    It is very nice to see another person interpreting my canvas I hope the unwrapping on the T.5 will suit you as good as these but the T.5 is far more difficult...
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    Hi Daan,

    Yes, the museum 221 was the inspiration
    Otherwise, not bad

    Zsolt
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