I am certain that Nigel will weather the decks, all wood floor, hull, mast, and deck surfaces and the sail yards. I have many pics of the Bounty in its weathered state.Originally Posted by Anthin
I also found many photos of period Capt's Qtrs from which to evolve a proper setting for that and the other rooms. Not likely to do all of them but some will be completed.
... we could get this kind of action in FS!
Certainly would be something. Scary though.
Anthin.
Progress for today: focus was primarily on constructing the "Hold" deck floor, beams, walls, doors and stairs.
With this now done, it's back to the top deck to finish up the remaining work there.
The level of detail you are undertaking must be taking a lot of patience.
"stairs-companionways" , The Hold! I do not think I have ever looked
forward to anything in Flight Sim as this,including a great DC-3. How will
you light below decks? Is it even possible?
As an after thought,is it possible to have a usable "Jolly Boat". Would it
have to be a seperate item, if that is the word ? To be able to go ashore
from the HMS Bounty would be an incredible asset. It also could be an
incredible nightmare for you. I think that would probably be a pretty big
added burden.
Regards Anthin.
Thank you Anthin. It is not so much patience as it is love of modeling, or creating from nothing, and to enjoy the progress of each step toward the goal. It is the journey into something new for me that inspires, the learning required to take on a new challenge, the satisfaction of accomplishment, and the joy of sharing. It is pure fun with each day of progress to see the results.
As for the lights below decks, no problem; as with the original, they shall be "candle lit". :-) Lamps will be sprinkled throughout the lower decks as with the lamps on the stern. Of course, effects will be used to generate the lighting in a most subtle way (as was used in the cabin of the Avia 51).
As of now, I know of no way to transfer to a separate sim device (launch boat) and sail away.
I appreciate your enthusiasm for the project. Frankly, I had doubted that anyone would be interested from the beginning but I wanted to do it in honor of the HMS Bounty, the replica, now lost at sea.
Here's a few shots (vc views) from the lower deck and hold in late day and dawn lighting (pretty dark but you can see some details), and 2 of mid-day lighting to give you a sense of how those areas appear without "lanterns".
This was just a test to see what these areas are looking like now before effects and textures are done.
You will see the mizzen and main masts and the elm pumps but the foremast is behind a forward wall.
Aye Capt'n!
Glad to see the back of the pesky bread plants and look forward to a suite where those beverages will be eagerly shared, Skipper.
And I'm sure there'll be many mates aboard to share in the adventure.
Poor old Bligh didn't deserve to have his quarters turned into a conservatory.
According to research, Joseph Banks, the botanist behind the bread plant idea was mainly interested in them as cheap 'fodder' for the workers on his plantation.
Just a thought; to be on the safe side, should we include a ship's brig?
Most men often say what they think!
An honest man usually means what he says!
A gentleman always says what he means!
"Αίεν Υψικρατείν "
A fool is not he who asks a simple question, but he who would simply have its asking denied. (Richards 2012)
Milton, you inspired me to watch two versions of Mutiny On The Bounty...looking forward to sailing your project.
Ted
Vivat Christus Rex! Ad maiorem Dei gloriam
Aye Sir, was trying to do the same last week but Netflix no longer streams them. :-/Milton, you inspired me to watch two versions of Mutiny On The Bounty...looking forward to sailing your project.
Ted
Utube shows the 1984 (Hopkins/Gibson) version in 13 seamless parts - just go to part 1 and it automatically plays the entire film;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tab7...B0A48AB62B0326
Historians seem to agree this to be the most historically accurate and more fair to the character of Bligh. The Royal Navy Board of Inquiry congratulated him for his outstanding navigational capabilities and level of seamanship in saving the survivors.
The music by Vangelis is a masterpiece among soundtracks.
Most men often say what they think!
An honest man usually means what he says!
A gentleman always says what he means!
"Αίεν Υψικρατείν "
A fool is not he who asks a simple question, but he who would simply have its asking denied. (Richards 2012)
Aye, thank you skipper; will check it out :-)
That is my favorite version but it does not play in my part of the country until you get to part 3. Fortunately I have CDs! :O)
Vivat Christus Rex! Ad maiorem Dei gloriam
Yes you are correct; not available in USA
Thank you for showing progress shots. I used to get a lot of
satisfaction as well when working on a project. A bit like having
a child and watching it grow.
You would not want to be very tall below decks. You would end
up hunched over all the time.
I am sure there will be many Simmers who will enjoy this creation.
I think I will hawl out my DVD of mutiny on the Bounty. I have not
watched it for some time.
Regards Anthin
Only got 4 hours work in today and invested time adding details and changing up the top deck to be more like the Bounty replica.
Still much to do though.
Some people like to see these lit wire frames so here are a few.
The FS screenshot is from last night and do not reflect today's changes.
Aaaaaaghhhrrrrrr - 'likes' is the classical understatement, Skipper.
I say grab'm m'hearties while ye can - I have a Lodestar wire frame as my desktop and a prettier sight you'll not find!
Most men often say what they think!
An honest man usually means what he says!
A gentleman always says what he means!
"Αίεν Υψικρατείν "
A fool is not he who asks a simple question, but he who would simply have its asking denied. (Richards 2012)
Hi Milton,
Re the launch boat... I'm sure a model cannot be split into 2, however, for visual effects...
Any years ago, there was a GMAX release of an animated 4 ship Red Arrows (at Simviation). It looked like you were flying 4 aircraft & if you hit the spoiler key or another, (maybe flaps) two of the planes would rotate or move position.
Hard to explain without actually seeing it, but I was just thinking that hitting a key could show the launch boat moving away from the Bounty?
There was also a Harry Potter on a broomstick with a bird flapping around his head.
Sorry if I'm out on a tangent, but there are some great visual effects from the "old days" out there.
Happy sailing,
Robin
This is really turning into something very impressive. I
always found the rigging a bit of a nightmare. I imagine
you would need a lot of detailed pics to reproduce it
correctly.
The wireframes really show how complex your model is.
Thank you again for the progress shots.
Regards Anthin.
The standing and running rigging are tough for sure, 10 miles of it. The running rigging is about impossible to duplicate for the sim but I have the key elements in place.
I do have many detailed drawings and pics but not enough to isolate all the running rigging required in detail to operate all functions.
The drawings give the overall ship setup, not the individual sail or mast rigging per drawing, so it makes it impossible to draw and understand all the many lines from such a distance.
I have relied on many ref pics to validate and add new lines or change attach points.
There are hundreds yet not nearly enough. :-)
I remember when I was a boy in St. Petersburg, the Bounty was tied up to the St. Pete pier.
I encourage anyone who has detailed interest in the Bounty history of construction and modification from its original state as the "Bethia", download and read.
Very interesting details of her readiness for voyage by HMS Navy and Ship Yard and final mods by Captain Bligh.
Plus you get detailed drawings from which my work is guided.
Conway Maritime Press - Anatomy Of The Ship - Hms Bounty
https://www.scribd.com/doc/155283160...hip-Hms-Bounty
Hi,
Just watched the YT Bounty film in 10 minute clips (from Nigel's post)...it was pretty good, apart from the overacting and the histrionics at the approach of bad weatherIt was interesting to listen to Anthony Hopkins' accent drift eastwards towards the Suffolk coast as they journeyed on, surviving on the gizzardy bits of Gannet and Lord knows what else in the jolly boat. Not once the old Pirate call of 'Ah-Ha Jim Lad' which was sad ( I only put 'sad' as I'm not too sure about spelling 'disappointing'.)
What I was wondering was though was about the controls of the vessel- will she be sluggardly and contrary when luffing to windward? Will she be able to 'Come About, Mr Christian, Come About' in the teeth of a raging gale?
These nautical phrases trip lightly off the tongue of a Master Mariner, one such as me what has spent countless hours on the wind-dashed waters of the Alexandra Park Boating Lake, with the cries of the sea ringing in his windswept ears 'Come in Number 5, your time is up' and 'Stop splashing us, you idiot, we'll sink'.
Looking forward to another work of computer genius
Andy.
LOL Andy. Interesting comments.Hi,
Just watched the YT Bounty film in 10 minute clips (from Nigel's post)...it was pretty good, apart from the overacting and the histrionics at the approach of bad weather
What I was wondering was though was about the controls of the vessel- will she be sluggardly and contrary when luffing to windward? Will she be able to 'Come About, Mr Christian, Come About' in the teeth of a raging gale?
These nautical phrases trip lightly off the tongue of a Master Mariner, one such as me what has spent countless hours on the wind-dashed waters of the Alexandra Park Boating Lake, with the cries of the sea ringing in his windswept ears 'Come in Number 5, your time is up' and 'Stop splashing us, you idiot, we'll sink'.
Looking forward to another work of computer genius
Andy.
As for the FM, I have only done enough to get her about in the water at her weight. Itching to get the desired reactions and have done some experimental work in that regard.
In a stormy headwind, she's tough to move at all (and would not except I currently have her overpowered) but turn her about she has no problem. I have given her quite the "vertical stabilizer" mass and height so she does respond to quarter winds with some listing. But, I haven't yet gotten serious with all this, just playing for now. (She has 10,000' feet of sail yard; that's quite the vstab!)
I intend to give her as much realism in wind response as I can muster.
Doing some testing with a little sail yard transparency.
First, forgot the texture, got black sails, and liked them :-)
Also, setup a static without sails.
Early test was too transparent and did not like transparency from the sunny side.
Final test with a 252 alpha gave a hint of translucence from the VC only. (Not shown)
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