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    ...And Another One By Kaz Ito!

    Kaz seems to be going into overdrive!
    I just found this on the Surclaro site...

    FS2002/FS2004 Mil Mi-12 Hormer


    FS2002/FS2004 Mil Mi-12 Hormer. Mi-12 is the largest helicopter ever built. The name Mi-12 would have been the name for the production helicopter. Since the V-12 never went into production and only two prototypes were built, the name Mi-12 was never officially adopted. by Kazunori Ito

    Filesize: 3.51 MB | Added on: 16-Jul-2012 | Downloads: 2

    This looks familiar, but I maybe wrong. It could be a re-release but I can't find an other Mi-12 for fs9 anywhere.
    I like it, but it certainly needs some tweaking to be done.


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    It was released in February of this year on flightsim.com (mil12_833.zip). Ito normally releases his airplanes there and that's where you'll find all his work. Surclaro probably just picked it up and added it to their downloads.

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    Sorry Falcon, but we (SurClaro) don't go around picking things up. If it was uploaded by someone other than the author, then I need to know about so it can be taken down.

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    Of course .. dunno who posted at Sunclaro ..
    What I know is that the two archives size are not the same
    Open archives with Winzip and check (with properties option)
    The one from Flightsim = 3 685 071
    The one from Sunclaro = 3 684 726

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    Well, whoever "uploaded it" didn't add any evidence that they were there. The readme has no additional entries to state that it's a re-upload that I can see and the files appear to be the same. The size difference is minor and could just reflect a different compression during the zip process. At any rate, it's not a new entry, it was originally uploaded in February and if you want the original, go to flightsim and download it.

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    Navtech that can easily be caused by the program used to compress the file, it doesn't say anything about the contents.

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Navtech View Post
    Of course .. dunno who posted at Sunclaro ..
    What I know is that the two archives size are not the same
    Open archives with Winzip and check (with properties option)
    The one from Flightsim = 3 685 071
    The one from Sunclaro = 3 684 726

    Firefighters walk where the devil dances.

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    Navtech that can easily be caused by the program used to compress the file, it doesn't say anything about the contents.
    Received 5/5
    Now .. why Mr Ito will use two different programs for the same archive ?
    One for flightsim and a different for Sunclaro
    This can be a clue that the Sunclaro upload (despite no different content) is maybe not made by Mr Ito
    Dunno if Mr Ito allow his files to be uploaded anywhere ...
    This was just about my emphasize ...

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    FDE

    Stuart,
    I have a set that I made back in Feb when it first came out. Modified my Rotodyne files and the results were good. You take off with 2 of flaps, and have to pull back on stick (pitch trim don't make it). Then remove flaps to zoom off (200 kts). To land you use spoiler for 2 seconds, then retract. Use full flaps (3 pos) and when it slows and 'hovers' then remove 1 of flaps to force it down. Too fast a vertical speed? Then put the 3rd notch of flaps in for a second when it's almost on ground. Remove it to finish (vertical) landing. This is a BIG aircraft, so it handles heavy and requires you land it gently (which it does). Here is zip. Hope you like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by napamule View Post
    Stuart,
    I have a set that I made back in Feb when it first came out. Modified my Rotodyne files and the results were good. You take off with 2 of flaps, and have to pull back on stick (pitch trim don't make it). Then remove flaps to zoom off (200 kts). To land you use spoiler for 2 seconds, then retract. Use full flaps (3 pos) and when it slows and 'hovers' then remove 1 of flaps to force it down. Too fast a vertical speed? Then put the 3rd notch of flaps in for a second when it's almost on ground. Remove it to finish (vertical) landing. This is a BIG aircraft, so it handles heavy and requires you land it gently (which it does). Here is zip. Hope you like.
    Chuck B
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    Thanks Chuck!

    I myself haven't made any alterations on it yet, but will certainly give your FDE's a go!
    I want to try and change some of the textures and lighting, exhaust and especially the sound.
    Certainly looks like a fun model!
    I haven't been on the sim lately, as I'm crippled with a shattered wrist, but still following the SOH forums.
    Will try asap...

    Thanks again, Stuart

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    Quote Originally Posted by Navtech View Post
    Received 5/5
    Now .. why Mr Ito will use two different programs for the same archive ?
    One for flightsim and a different for Sunclaro
    This can be a clue that the Sunclaro upload (despite no different content) is maybe not made by Mr Ito
    Dunno if Mr Ito allow his files to be uploaded anywhere ...
    This was just about my emphasize ...
    Duly noted.

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