Ok, plant experts, can anybody ID poison ivy/oak/sumak leaves in any of these pics? I googled images of this stuff and I'm leaning towards no, but I wouldn't bet a dollar either way at this point...
- Paul
Ok, plant experts, can anybody ID poison ivy/oak/sumak leaves in any of these pics? I googled images of this stuff and I'm leaning towards no, but I wouldn't bet a dollar either way at this point...
- Paul
- Paul
Looks like poison oak to me.
Could be Sumak as I believe it grows as a vine
The west coast species of Poison Oak often has a glossy-brownish-oak looking leaf in the summer. In the Columbia River valley and in the dryer highlands south of that river it can be seen and identifed from quite a distance.
I've never got into Poison Ivy (than God) so I'm unable to help there.
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Easy way to find out is to roll around in it, then wait a few days. Is you get a rash, it is poisonous, if not, it isn't.
Poison Ivy and Poison Oak are supposed to have leaves in triplets (Leaves of three- let it be), Poison Sumac has branches of 7 to 13 leaves.
On the other hand, I checked that out before I removed some stuff from around our house, and it didn't match any of the descriptions. I did it, washed thoroughly afterwards, and still had awful rash, blisters and itchy EVERYWHERE for a month after, so don't listen to me - I can't identify it even when I check it out first.
id stay away from the stuff in the third pic myself....just by the shape of the leaves,,the pointieness of the edges,,,,but all three pics look suspicious to me
Originally Posted by AckAck
Unfortunately for me, I've already conducted that test, in the form of removing much of that stuff from around the trees in the back yard. It's only on my arms, but that's bad enough. The thought of poison ivy/oak never even crossed my mind, not even after the rash broke out. It was only after looking up these symtoms on google... Mine match that of the "active ingfredient" in ivy/oak/sumac perfectly. The leaves just don't look right though. Besides, I've come into contact with this stuff before, on camping trips, where others got nailed and I never suffered any effects.
- Paul
Having grown up around plenty of Poison Ivy and Poison Oak, I don't see either in those pics. As for Poison Sumac, I've never seen it, so can't help there. Most of what I see in your pics grows naturally around my area, and I, personally have never been bothered by it. However, some people only have to get downwind of some of the stuff, and they break out. My grandfather was that way, while my grandmother and myself could go weed the stuff out with just light gloves and shirts, and never got it. So everyone's different. If you are alergic to anything, best stay out of it.
That stuff hides a lot of little insects, also, which can mimic some of the effects.
Don H
i'd avoid the shiny leaves in the first 2 pics. the thing about poison ivy/oak/sumac that makes everyone get a rash is something called urshoil (iirc) it used to grow real heavy in my yard as a kid. the best way to get the oil off of your skin is rubbing alchohol. don't forget to wipe your shoes down with it as well, and wash your clothes in hot water and use bleach. the more of that oil you spread around, the better chance you have of a reaction later on. people do that to themselves all the time with those cheap gardening gloves. the oil can be potent over the winter
I agree with Modelr............no, no and no. I don't see any sumac either.
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go to the Doctor the cure for Poison Ivy and poison oak is pretty simple.
It used to be a seven day steroid regiment that would clear it right up. You started by taking seven pills and reduced the number of pills by one each day until they were all gone. By the fourth day it should be looking pretty good.
My brother is also one of those people who can stare at Poison Ivy from 30 feet and get the rash. Myself I walked bare foot threw it in a woods as a kid and only realized where I was when I was in the center of the patch.
I never caught it.
I don't think I will be tempting fate to see if that condition still holds true.
Doc says I got poison ivy. He put me on the steriod program. Poison ivy sucks. Next to figure out how to kill it and remove it from the back yard...
Last edited by PRB; July 16th, 2012 at 15:13. Reason: letter in wrong sequence.
- Paul
ours was unkillable. it took over the embankment behind the yard. every summer i pulled it all up, put it in bags, tore up the roots, put salt in the ground. i had poison ivy so bad i was covered with it.
every summer for years. about the time it would heal, all the ivy would be well on it's way to growing back.
From what I can see of your phloto's the first two are likely poison ivy. Poison ivy can look very different depending on the soil and time of year. Incidentally, if you get into poison ivy you generally have an some time before the oil works it's way into your skin enough to cause damage. Simple soap and water will clean you up, and get naked....wash those clothes!
Many people are not allergic to poison ivy or oak. I'm one of those. Oddly enough there seems to be a relationship to having hay fever. If you have other seasonal allergies You tend not to be allergic to poison ivy or poison oak, or so my allergist informed me....
The third photo is muscadine. If your muscadine is fertile it will produce nice dark sweet tart berries which make really good jelly and is often made into wine.
Muscadine vines are either male or female, so you need an opposite nearby to get grapes.
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Interesting. Thanks TeaSea.
Well I'm sooo glad I was wearing work gloves while I was playing with that stuff... Was talking with the pharmacy lady and she said her son got it on his hands, and since it can take days to develop, he got it everywhere he subsequently put his hands, including his eyes. Ouchie...
Went Googling for "home remedies" for the itch and rash, and found a long list of amazing things people say work. The one I tried, since I had the ingrediants at hand, was to wet the affected area and viggorously rub in ordinary table salt. It's not 100%, but both the itch and the rash appearance was significantly reduced. Amazing. Evidently the key is to remove the toxic resin "stuff" that's on the leaves, and "normal" soap won't do it. I guess salt absorbs moister as well as the urushiol. Also, degreaser soap, like "GoJo" is supposed to work well at removing the urushiol.
- Paul
- Paul
The salt thing actually makes sense to me. You can use salt to clean up any oily substance. I use it on my old cast iron skillet instead of water (okay, I use water too--I'm not that much of a traditionalist).
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