Phantom

[AusWilko]

I backseated this one to Top Gun back in May '75; http://www.boeing.com/companyoffices...f4/f43901.html

This is my FSX rendition of that plane using the Pack 1 Virtavia bird and a modified Steve Bryant(Ducky) texture set;

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I still tweak a little on it and one of these days I'll get the consoles sorted out a little better and redo the main VC panel to be more real...Don

I'd be very interested in what ever tweaks you do for these as I love my phantoms

[expat]

Am now "rediscovering" the RF-4B's and USMC F-4B/J birds - lots of character! Found some more paints by Duckie and Michael Pearson on Avsim and even an AI version of Nick Black's AI phantom which I will set up at El Toro. This is why I never seem to tire of this hobby.

Don - thanks for the gauge coordinates and will give them a try. I am using your 2d in the photo-phantoms and your 2D and VC in the fighters. All working very nicely. One thing I have found is that if I use the sim=RR Phantom entry the AP then sends the plane completely out of control (with any panel). Reverting to the Pack 1 airfile fixed this - and shouldn't be incorrect either for the RF-4B. I use both the two wing tank (model 11(?)) and the three tank, model=1_3 which looks cool on the RF.

[fxsttcb]

Am now "rediscovering" the RF-4B's and USMC F-4B/J birds - lots of character! Found some more paints by Duckie and Michael Pearson on Avsim and even an AI version of Nick Black's AI phantom which I will set up at El Toro. This is why I never seem to tire of this hobby.

Don - thanks for the gauge coordinates and will give them a try. I am using your 2d in the photo-phantoms and your 2D and VC in the fighters. All working very nicely. One thing I have found is that if I use the sim=RR Phantom entry the AP then sends the plane completely out of control (with any panel). Reverting to the Pack 1 airfile fixed this - and shouldn't be incorrect either for the RF-4B. I use both the two wing tank (model 11(?)) and the three tank, model=1_3 which looks cool on the RF.

I've scarfed up a ton o' paints too! I'll have to look for Nick's AI Phantom. I have the Fernando Martinez AI, downloaded but haven't made an FP using them yet.

From what I see, comparing the Phantom II vs RR_Phantom II(side by side in a spreadsheet), the aerodynamics are vastly different.
I'm not familiar with all of the differences between the RR vs GE powered planes, but, I only expected the Engine sections to be different in the N1 vs N2 areas, and thrust vs N1 vs throttle curves.

If I can sort out what is more accurate between the two, I'll delete the defunct FS2k2/FS9 entries and attempt an FSX only merge.
Then with a working FG series it will be selectable in the aircraft.cfg for those RR powered birds.

Does anyone know how much was changed in the airframe and/or control to accommodate the FG? Big change in FDE?...Don

[edit]BTW, don't look at the photo bird VC panel at an angle! The doggone gauges move out into space!

[delta_lima]

Hello Don,

I've dusted off the B models, and with the Gus and Steve B paints, they look nice too ... wondering if you've done anything with the VC since the original update ...

Nice models to huck off the E for pattern practice!

DL

[expat]

The flight modelling of the AS "Lead Sled" is quite forgiving making it more easy to trap than one might expect (at least compared to the RA-5C and F-8).

[Stickshaker]

For what it is worth, just to let you know. I received this today...

http://www.abacuspub.com/shop/index....roducts_id=285

No world-beater I think, and not a carrier version, but it is FSX.

[daisan]

Looks like the AFS Design F4F. I think that it is the same plane. And F4F and british phantom is really far away from being historically accurate...

[AusWilko]

Waiting for A2A is hard

[peter12213]

I use the Iris F4 as Deltalima said for my RN fix lol, however the Cloud9 model can't be ported into fsx unfortunately not fully anyway. However it stills looks great in the sim from outside, but can't wait for a good set of late 60's era USN and RN Phantoms just for FSX Accel!

[delta_lima]

Hello,

2 questions:

1) With Don's (FXSTTCB's) panel fixes, I still get a sizeable chink of outside view down on the lower left side panel. I get it with all repaints I've tried (Pierre L, Steve B, and all but one of Gus R). Oddly, on the NMC (Red Pumpkin) from Gus R, I don't - the VC is "air tight". Same panel, checked to see I have all the same VC textures ... truly weird.

2) I'm trying to track down Pierre's VAQ-33 Firebirds repaint. There are two versions on Avsim, but neither seems to be the actual repaint - but rather a stock Alphasim paint. Does anyone have these - or even one - ideally, th grey nose? That would be so much appreciated. The repaint looks like so:




Again, many thanks!

DL

[fxsttcb]

I also have a hole-in-the-fuse at the junction of the left console and utility panel. I always though it was a modeling issue!
Point me to a download for "NMC (Red Pumpkin) from Gus R" and mebbe I can finger it out.
Besides that it would make a good AI for Roosie Roads...

The "Greynose" I have, has mismarked outer wings. I can't remember where it came from, but, I'll check the bitmaps vs the ones at Avsim.

A2A...zzz...A2A...zzZ...A2A...zZZ...A2A...ZZZ...st ill dreaming of the day...Don

[delta_lima]

I also have a hole-in-the-fuse at the junction of the left console and utility panel. I always though it was a modeling issue!
Point me to a download for "NMC (Red Pumpkin) from Gus R" and mebbe I can finger it out.
Besides that it would make a good AI for Roosie Roads...

The "Greynose" I have, has mismarked outer wings. I can't remember where it came from, but, I'll check the bitmaps vs the ones at Avsim.

A2A...zzz...A2A...zzZ...A2A...zZZ...A2A...ZZZ...st ill dreaming of the day...Don

Thanks Don - you're awesome.

NMC is here ... http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php...crp&DLID=62393

Appreciate the help.

DL

[fxsttcb]

"texture.greynose.zip" at Avsim is the one I have. It still has the mismarked wings too.

Gus' NMC texture has the same "see thru" on my Pack 1, model "2"(Var 1), and "3"(Var 2), planes, so, I don't know what goes on there.

Weirdness reigns with these beasties! I've got so many panel variations and texture sets now, I can't tell what goes with what any more...Don

[delta_lima]

Thanks for trying.

Got the Pierre paints sorted - overwrote my config file by accident.

My NMC is fine given that the model I slaved it to is the clean (model=5) Weird, huh?

OK, on another note - paint recommendations for the IRIS model. My personal faves are edic's RCN what-if schemes, and Francisco Presa's VF-51. Of course, the default 700 Sqn paint that comes with it. Others' repaints have a bit of weirdness with them, in alignment of national insignia, colour correction, etc. Any others you've come to like? I saw you posted on another thread looking for a USMC paint to match a ride you took in one ... did that pan out?

DL

[fxsttcb]

My NMC is fine given that the model I slaved it to is the clean (model=5) Weird, huh?

It's gotta be the texture mapping for that specific model then. Doggone it!

Ardie(RD) did a complete plane package with VMFA-232 Red Devils, VMFA-451 Warlords, and VMFA-531 Grey Ghosts, that look real good.
His WIP thread: http://forums.surclaro.com/topic19807-15.html
Package available here: http://www.surclaro.com/fsdownload-detail-20809.html
He's also working on a VMFA-251 '75 #1 version(My Request). Video of the WIP here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW5oZbKygkw

My 'puter is sick, so, right now, all I can do is look! For some reason, if a turbine engine is running, it turns into a slide show. All planes.
I really want to try his new FDE included in the package.

To create my #1 RW ride, I modded one of Ducky's VMFA-251 '75-'76 repaints.
Here's a shot of the original #5: http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...om-II-VMFA-251 and my rework for the numbers and tail colors:

Steve spent a lot of time and effort on the awesome detail. Thanks Ducky!

Gus Robatto's VMFA-333 is a little too clean, but, is the best "Mig Killer" repaint I could find:


Of course anything representative of MCAS Beaufort from the '70s is on my favorites list!...Don