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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathias View Post
    Absolutely correct as long as you saddle the horse from the front end, and exactly the reason why boom 'n zoom replaced turn 'n burn fairly early in WWII.
    It's slow speed performance didn't help the Spit and the attrition rates amongst the British pilots in '41/'42'/'43 tell the story.
    this conversation never went particularly well on the old Il2 boards either - add to it the .50cal vs 20mm - the P-51 vs the world, etc...and the flames just shot up to the moon ...every time

    I think all the OP was trying to say was that the A2A Spit looks pretty and owes some of that to the shapely shape of her wings - no argument - your Spitfire is a fine girl

    ..enter, the Sandman...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathias View Post
    Absolutely correct as long as you saddle the horse from the front end, and exactly the reason why boom 'n zoom replaced turn 'n burn fairly early in WWII.
    It's slow speed performance didn't help the Spit and the attrition rates amongst the British pilots in '41/'42'/'43 tell the story.

    Mathias,

    You are getting a little defensive protecting your baby . I'm not taking the position that a clipped wing Spit V is a superior aircraft to a fw190, and certainly not advocating that turn and burn tactics give an aircraft superiority.

    My point is just to lay the facts out for anyone interested in this thread. And the facts are that the clipped wing spit had a superior roll rate at lower speeds (under 220mph ias), the fw190 had superiority at mid speeds (220-300mph ias) and an edge (10%) over 300mph ias.

    When making a comparison between a FW190A and a clipped wing SpitV, I find the fw190 to be superior for other reasons.

    Scott.

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    Spit vs Fw190 vs P-51 etc etc yawnnnn. Any VC pics of this beautiful model?
    Tom

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blade124 View Post
    Mathias,

    You are getting a little defensive protecting your baby . I'm not taking the position that a clipped wing Spit V is a superior aircraft to a fw190, and certainly not advocating that turn and burn tactics give an aircraft superiority.

    My point is just to lay the facts out for anyone interested in this thread. And the facts are that the clipped wing spit had a superior roll rate at lower speeds (under 220mph ias), the fw190 had superiority at mid speeds (220-300mph ias) and an edge (10%) over 300mph ias.

    When making a comparison between a FW190A and a clipped wing SpitV, I find the fw190 to be superior for other reasons.

    Scott.
    Hehe, not at all getting in defense, just enthusiastic about the topic.
    Mathias


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    I just wanted to show the nice lines of the Spitfire hehe.

    Hairy spin, heres the promo video for the bird.
    video; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P-7e...ature=g-user-u


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    Thanks Lewis, saving my pocket money now. The VC is a tour de force! I take it the pilot in that vid was experienced - novices usually made the aircraft porpoise as they hand-pumped the undercarriage retraction...
    Tom

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