Ito San did it again: a Fokker D.XXIII available

***Hurricane91*** · June 15th, 2012, 11:09

Originally Posted by Matt Wynn

...will keep working away....

Whoa! That looks marvelous Matt!

***Cees Donker*** · June 15th, 2012, 11:17

Originally Posted by Hurricane91

That is going to look stunning Matt. Thank you for working up a new paint and kit.

It sure looks stunning!

Cees

***Cees Donker*** · June 15th, 2012, 11:53

Putting these files in place eliminates My VC textures and the gauges are not there anymore! What is happening? Any ideas?

Cees

Originally Posted by mikezola

I think I have it pretty close to the specs- here they are for anyone inclined to try them out...

Besides the performance specs and geometry, contact points and scrape points have been tweaked and augmented- she'll belly-land if need be. I also found out the answer to something I found while looking at paint schemes online- the insignia and number Ito painted on this plane was applied to the prototype in June 1940- previously it had the number 'X-4' instead of the triangles, stripes, and number.

Enjoy! -Mike

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Once downloaded, rename the files by deleting the '.txt' from each name...

***stuartcox*** · June 15th, 2012, 12:13

I was having problems myself finding a way to re-name Terry's FDE files, so here's is a conventional zip version.
Mike's FDE's haven't been tested yet, but I will give it a go.
Thanks to Tim for the updated geometry section.

Looking forward to your paint Job Matt!!!

Cheers, Stuart

***Ferry_vO*** · June 15th, 2012, 12:24

Originally Posted by huub vink

Thanks Matt, as the aircraft was a prototype I don't think it was very weathered.

It hardly had time to get weathered; eleven flights, with a total of 3.38 hours..

***Ferry_vO*** · June 15th, 2012, 12:38

Originally Posted by Matt Wynn

yeah i think it only ever wore those 2 schemes 'X-4' and '998'...

The first paint was the mock up model, in camo colours only. During the Paris show the rudders had the rudders painted like the Dutch flag; red, white and blue. No further markings.
Next was the 'X-4' which had the camo scheme with the white X-4 markings on booms and wings.
The '998' had a camo base with '998' on the booms and the white stripes with black edges on the orange rudders (Outside only) and wingtips. I have found no photos that suggest the aircraft had the orange triangles like Ito painted.

***Matt Wynn*** · June 15th, 2012, 12:52

Thanks Ferry! all noted down

just starting to blur things down a bit now....

***mikezola*** · June 15th, 2012, 13:02

Originally Posted by Cees Donker

Putting these files in place eliminates My VC textures and the gauges are not there anymore! What is happening? Any ideas?

Cees

Hello Cees,
Remove the '1' from the panel entry in the header of the aircraft.cfg file. I had it in there because I was fooling about with my panel... my apologies!

-Mike Z.

p.s. Looking sweet, Matt!

***Cees Donker*** · June 15th, 2012, 13:26

Originally Posted by mikezola

Hello Cees,
Remove the '1' from the panel entry in the header of the aircraft.cfg file. I had it in there because I was fooling about with my panel... my apologies!

-Mike Z.

p.s. Looking sweet, Matt!

LOL! Thanks Mike!

Cees

***Matt Wynn*** · June 15th, 2012, 14:19

well the mock up is now flying.... now onto with the Dutch flag on the outer rudders... oh and finish the rudder 'ribbing' and prop disc i'm working on, other changes include the VC having been toned down a slight bit, and some shading added to the pilot

***Ferry_vO*** · June 15th, 2012, 14:36

You work fast Matt!

Double checked my book: by the time the mock up arrived in Paris Both sides of the rudders had the Dutch flag painted on it, on the outsides it had the Fokker logo on the fin in front of the white part, with presumably "D.XXIII" below it, but I can't quite see that clearly. The propellors had what appeared to be a natural metal colour on the outside and black on the insides. X-4 had two dark (Brown?) spinners, but 889 appears to have a much lighter colour spinner in the rear.

***Matt Wynn*** · June 15th, 2012, 14:47

ok thanks Ferry, will amend as necessary

***mikezola*** · June 15th, 2012, 15:01

At first, I thought Ferry was right- I realized that, although there were lots of profiles and drawings of '998' with the triangles, there were no actual photographs... then I stumbled on a website call www.letletlet-warplanes.com and found this:

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I'll grant you that it's not the best view, but look on the upper surface of the port wing and I think you'll see the lower half of the triangle...
Another picture they had answers the discussion about supercharging:

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Sure looks like a little blower to me, with an intake in the leading edge...

What do you all think?

-Mike Z.

***Matt Wynn*** · June 15th, 2012, 15:07

judging by the angles visible, it sure doesn't look like camouflage, i'll do a version with and without

***Ferry_vO*** · June 15th, 2012, 15:24

It is hard to tell, and photos of the 889 are very rare, but I have the same photo as mike but bigger (And for some reason in reverse) and I don't see it as a triangle. The orange triangles had the straight edge on the leading edge of the wing and the point towards the trailing edge. And if you compare one side of the wing to the other it appears they each point in a different direction.
Maybe it only had a triangle on the left wing, there's a shadow in the photo or the camo had a darker outline aorund the brown and green? Hard to tell from those few photos, almost all taken from that angle.

As for Mike's second photo: It's not a supercharger or turbo, but a bullet transportation device! To save space Fokker designed this system where the rounds are fed through the wing standing upright before being tilted and fed into the guns in the boom. Quite complex and I don't know if it was ever tested.