Veneaviones Rockwell Turbo Commander 690B VC Upgrade

[paiken]

This thread got busy while I was away at work. Here are some more shots of the updated textures I worked on. If anyone is interested I can upload them here, along with the modified panel cfg file.

[falcon409]

Nice work there "paiken". . .should give folks some good alternatives to the original interiors. I still have to change the glare shield color a bit and add matching textures to the throttle controls and a few other areas so it matches the panel. Also need a different carpet with better detail.

[expat]

All looking really good guys.

[expat]

Milton,

I am A-B testing your flight model with the default in FSX. Your FM seems more stable in cruise and less twitchy and therefore an improvement. However, somehow with it I am way down on top speed - can't get to the target 240 knots indicated cruise or fast cruise 300+ knots over the ground which I can get with the default FM. Also, note some big differences in the airplane geometry, e.g. wing area 280 vs 560. Will add your changed entries one at a time and see which ones are cutting the airspeed. Also, in FSX it has been a known issue that the aircraft pitches up strongly under full power at takeoff and climbout. The fix is to change this entry to: htail_incidence = 0.500. Thanks as always for your input.

expat

[expat]

Nevermind - found it - I have a thrust scalar entry of 1.101 for some reason - my bad . .

[expat]

Modded this paint of Gustavo La Cruz with some black/red trimmed props, darker windows (tweaked the alpha channel) and my own registration. Looks a bit of the sports car.

[Brian_Gladden]

I'm having the same cruise speed problem with Milton's dynamics. What did you change? Love how she handles though.

[Milton Shupe]

I'm having the same cruise speed problem with Milton's dynamics. What did you change? Love how she handles though.

Brian,

Change the wing area back to the original understated value: wing area 280 vs 560

I will update the zip above to incorporate that change.

My one hour tweak was a bit hasty me thinks. :-)

[Brian_Gladden]

Thanks Milton... I knew it had to be a drag issue somewhere

[falcon409]

I'm just getting around to installing Miltons updated files. I noticed where everyone is talking about the wing area needing to be changed back to "280" from 560. Looking at what I just downloaded from the link Milton provided, it was already 280. Did I miss something? Where did the 560 come from? lol. . . .also, and I have no idea how the airfile works, but the wing area noted there is 410sq.ft.

[Milton Shupe]

I'm just getting around to installing Miltons updated files. I noticed where everyone is talking about the wing area needing to be changed back to "280" from 560. Looking at what I just downloaded from the link Milton provided, it was already 280. Did I miss something? Where did the 560 come from? lol. . . .also, and I have no idea how the airfile works, but the wing area noted there is 410sq.ft.

I had changed it originally to 560 but updated the zip back to the original. The 560 (likely more accurate but I do not have the official area) creates a lot more drag.

The 280 gets you the speed at a slight expense to pitch stability and lift but if that is a problem for you then decrease elevator trim scalar in the flight tuning section.

[falcon409]

Thanks Milton. VC is complete. Main VC panels (4) were all enlarged to 2048x2048 for better clarity. Everything was redrawn except for the radio's. The radar is the F-16 radar from Loooooooooooooong ago, lol and I replaced the conflicting "altitude Alert" with one I already had. If anyone decides to use this set, be aware that it may not fit every color scheme so the best thing to do is make two panel folders and name one of them "panel.tan" and place a copy of everything from the panel.vc into that folder and let the updated files overwrite when you add them. Be sure to change the "panel=" line in the cfg file for the airplane of your choice to "panel=tan". I was so intent on the artwork that I failed to really pay much attention to the color until I was well into the project. By then I just decided to continue on with what I had. I am going to change the basic color to a more generic gray or charcoal in a few days so folks have something that might work with a wider range of airplane schemes. I'll get this packaged up and posted sometime today.

[Milton Shupe]

Beautiful work Sir! I like it!

RE: the FM, I looked at some of my old data on the Aero Commanders, 680, 685, etc. and the wing area for the 685 (piston version of the 690) is 266 sq.ft. so I am assuming that the original value is correct. My apologies for the confusion.

[heywooood]

Thanks Milton. VC is complete. Main VC panels (4) were all enlarged to 2048x2048 for better clarity. Everything was redrawn except for the radio's. The radar is the F-16 radar from Loooooooooooooong ago, lol and I replaced the conflicting "altitude Alert" with one I already had. If anyone decides to use this set, be aware that it may not fit every color scheme so the best thing to do is make two panel folders and name one of them "panel.tan" and place a copy of everything from the panel.vc into that folder and let the updated files overwrite when you add them. Be sure to change the "panel=" line in the cfg file for the airplane of your choice to "panel=tan". I was so intent on the artwork that I failed to really pay much attention to the color until I was well into the project. By then I just decided to continue on with what I had. I am going to change the basic color to a more generic gray or charcoal in a few days so folks have something that might work with a wider range of airplane schemes. I'll get this packaged up and posted sometime today.

Thank you, Falcon...I consider your works to be essential upgrades to the planes you have provided them for

[falcon409]

Here's a quick link for the VC Update. Additional color schemes will be forthcoming.
https://www.box.com/s/260aab748f88d75348c7