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    My experience was in SAC, ADC, TAC, and ANG. The biggest differnce between SAC and TAC ORI's was that SAC when you launched those bombers the exercise was pretty much done, it was recover and beers at the NCO club. In TAC after you had that initial flush, then came ICTs. I loved those ICT's that's what it was all about "Turn N Burn". I spent 30 years in weapons from storage and maintenance to weapons loading conventional and nuclear, B-52s, F-101s, F-4s, F-16s. There is one thing that I am absolutly sure of: The most devestating weapon system I ever worked on was the B-52, a common load of 4 MK.28s and 20 AGM-69A equaled over 10 megatons, at 25 aircraft per base roughly 12 bases (at least 2 of which were double wings of 50), do the math. If even a quarter get through, this big blue marble will turn to burnt brown in a matter of hours. There is no such thing as a limited nuclear strike, I remember fallout exercises at Ellington Field in Houston Texas, we used our maintenance hangar as a shelter, what a joke! Like we were just going to get fallout in Houston. We all pretty much agreed if this was the real thing, everything gets launched FMC or not. Then we were going to have the biggest Barbeque you ever saw, all the beer you could drink, just waitn' for the charcol to light-up. People either love it or hate it but "Doctor Strangelove" had some truth in it.
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    When I was stationed in Germany in the seventies, guarding my little piece of the Czech border, it was conventional wisdom that we were just a speedbump to the WP forces. We figured we were really just a tripwire, when the Soviets punched through us the nukes would start flying.

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    Ever hear of the "Fulda Gap"?

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    In very simple terms, the basic 'Force Multipliers' in small unit ops are training/teamwork/morale.
    Bottom of the Food Chain 'stuff' but it goes to the core of how effective any unit operates.
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    I can tell you with absolute certainty a good cook is a very valuable commodity that unit commanders or ship captains will go to war over. If he can keep the troops happy, morale soars, efficiency increases and you've got happy people doing what would otherwise be rather tedious or even dangerous jobs quite well. A good example of this are the messing arrangements in U.S. submarines. In that respect you could call this individual a force multiplier, I suppose.

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    Another "force multiplier" is a good scronger. If you had a good scronger in your section you were truly blessed. A good scronger could not only deliver the goods, but do it without getting caught. I think a the number one quality in a scronger is imagination, he sees things in a way normal people don't. We had this one guy in an ANG unit I was with, the unit was on a closed Air Force Base, all the buildings were still there waiting to be destroyed. The city where the base was located was taking over leaving just the ANG property. Well one day he was late for work said he had to make a stop, and it took a little long than expected. The next day same thing, also noticed that a parts room in our maintenance bay was filling up with a lot of junk. Asked this guy what was going on, he says couple of days it'll be gone. Couple of days later, gives me a key and asks if I will take control of the new locker in the breakroom, show me what it is first, sure. He had noticed that the old base NCO club was being demmo'd so he liberated some things he thought might improve morale. Open this cabinet and we got a refrigerated keg with tap, strictly for off duty morale, with the key under my control. Next to it is a cabinet with a soft serve ice cream machine, I've got a buddy in the chowhall who will supply us with the ice cream mix once a month on UTAs, all from the equipment came from the now gone NCO Club didn't cost a dime just needed to be cleaned up, along with a popcorn machine. The ice cream was a God send during Chem exercises in full MOP in August in Texas. Guy deserved a Medal of Honor. Once we needed a new refrigerator for the breakroom, next day there it was, the damn thing was full of medical specimens, and still cold, I don't want to know. What a guy !
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    Someone who knows "the book" but hasn't had their brain corrupted by "the book" is an extremely valuable commodity as well. They know the system and how to manipulate it to the good of all.

    This is where a good admin troop, especially one with seniority, can be extremely handy.

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