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***Bone*** · June 12th, 2012, 09:28

I did the update and then flew it, but didn't see any smoke trails. I can't remember if the pre-update model smoked or not. Can someone confirm that the pre-update smoked or not? I would think the real Lightning was a smoker, but don't really know for sure.

***JAllen*** · June 12th, 2012, 09:48

Watched Lightnings come and go from RAF Bentwaters in the mid 70's and smoking engines don't stand out in my memory. Our F-4C's and D's smoked a lot more than EE Lightnings. A run-up on launch was a black cloud!
Lightnings and Vulcans were so fascinating when they visited. I have the Iris Vulcan and might as well get the JF Lightning now. Just for the memories.
Funny, in 4 years at Bentwaters never got a picture of a Vulcan flyover. It was a mystery ship all of us wanted to capture on film but never could. Then transferred to Barksdale AFB and the flightline was full of them. They were there for a bombing competition. -Jim

***hschuit*** · June 12th, 2012, 10:15

Originally Posted by Bone

I did the update and then flew it, but didn't see any smoke trails. I can't remember if the pre-update model smoked or not. Can someone confirm that the pre-update smoked or not? I would think the real Lightning was a smoker, but don't really know for sure.

The pre SP1 and SP1 do not have smoke. It is not too difficult to add it, I "transplanted" the smoke effect from the FS9 Alphasim Lightning.

***Bone*** · June 12th, 2012, 10:42

Originally Posted by JAllen

Funny, in 4 years at Bentwaters never got a picture of a Vulcan flyover. It was a mystery ship all of us wanted to capture on film but never could. Then transferred to Barksdale AFB and the flightline was full of them. They were there for a bombing competition. -Jim

During the mid 1970's my dad was based at Offut AFB. At that time there was a small squadron of Vulcan's based out of Offut, and I saw them fly all of the time. I thought it was normal to see Vulcans flying around, lol. About three houses down from us was a family of Brits, and the dad was one of the Vulcan pilots. I was so used to seeing my dad and the other AF guys in their flight suits, that whenever I saw the Vulcan pilot come home and get out of his car, I always thought to myself "man, those RAF guys have some funny looking flight suits". I was just a kid, silly me.

Originally Posted by hschuit

The pre SP1 and SP1 do not have smoke. It is not too difficult to add it, I "transplanted" the smoke effect from the FS9 Alphasim Lightning.

OK, thanks.

***jetstreamsky*** · June 12th, 2012, 12:45

Smoking engines is not a 'feature' of the Lightning, I can't remember ever seeing any smoke, but if you look at this video at about 2.20 onwards you can see light smoke on some of the take offs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxyg5GQk8H8

Another effect to add

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx28jWfr80w&t=4m20s

**IanHenry** · June 12th, 2012, 13:24

I seem to be having a problem with the afterburners. Previously both afterburner effects showed even if one engine was throttled back, now only one engine has afterburners. I think it was better before adding the service pack!

Ian.

***JAllen*** · June 12th, 2012, 13:49

Hey Bone, the RAF guys I met at Barksdale were amazed by the cockpit in the B-52G. Amazed at the size of it!! That Vulcan is tiny inside.

I would think an interceptor would be less effective if it left an F-4C type smoke trail for all to see. The video measures up to my impressions after all these 30+ years. Guess I still have my mind! -Jim

***Bone*** · June 12th, 2012, 13:59

Originally Posted by JAllen

Hey Bone, the RAF guys I met at Barksdale were amazed by the cockpit in the B-52G. Amazed at the size of it!! That Vulcan is tiny inside.

I did get to go in for a look at the Vulcan interior, back then. It's kind of a strange place as compared to other planes. The actual flight deck is pretty small. It's the top deck and you have to climb up a ladder to get to it. The other three seats (At least I remember three seats) were on the lower deck, and the lower deck seemed a bit cavernous because of the vaulted ceiling that went up all the way to the top. You could see the back sides of the cockpit seats from the lower deck. You wouldn't want to trip while climbing out of the cockpit seats, the fall to the lower deck would be painfull. There wasn't any safety railing, as I recall.

**Martyn** · June 13th, 2012, 00:47

Originally Posted by IanHenry

I seem to be having a problem with the afterburners. Previously both afterburner effects showed even if one engine was throttled back, now only one engine has afterburners. I think it was better before adding the service pack!

Ian.

This isn't a known issue. On our various test PCs the reheat/afterburner effects are correctly linked to each engine e.g. throttling up only engine 1 will result in the reheat effect for engine 1 appearing, throttling up only engine 2 will result in the reheat effect for engine 2 appearing, throttling up both engines will result in the reheat effects for both engines appearing.

Is anyone else experiencing this issue?

**IanHenry** · June 13th, 2012, 02:17

Originally Posted by Martyn

This isn't a known issue. On our various test PCs the reheat/afterburner effects are correctly linked to each engine e.g. throttling up only engine 1 will result in the reheat effect for engine 1 appearing, throttling up only engine 2 will result in the reheat effect for engine 2 appearing, throttling up both engines will result in the reheat effects for both engines appearing.

Is anyone else experiencing this issue?

Sorry Martyn, my fault, I needed to re-calibrate my throttles, one was not opening fully, hence no reheat! Problem sorted now.

Regards,
Ian.

**Martyn** · June 13th, 2012, 02:21

Phew! Thanks for letting me know Ian.

**DagR** · June 13th, 2012, 06:09

I am thinking about buying this aircraft. Is the SP1 incorporated into the main package now ?

Best
DagR

**Martyn** · June 13th, 2012, 07:41

Originally Posted by DagR

I am thinking about buying this aircraft. Is the SP1 incorporated into the main package now ?

Best
DagR

Yes it is, and the demo is also up to SP1 standard now.

**DagR** · June 14th, 2012, 07:21

Just bought the aircraft, great work :-)
One little snag, at least on my system; my throttle no 1 controls the upper engine nozzle animation but applies the reheat to the lower, likewise my no 2 throttle controls lower engine nozzle animation and applies reheat to the upper engine. Any ideas how I can fix this?

Edit: Did this:
light.0= 9, -29.8, 0.0, 2.5, fx_JF_Lightning_Burner, // Eng2 reheat
light.1= 8, -29.8, 0.0, -0.5, fx_JF_Lightning_Burner, // Eng1 reheat
(switched positions of the AB effect)

Best Dag

**centuryseries** · June 14th, 2012, 11:00

Thanks for the update, however I still seem to be getting an odd airbrake actuator animation on the left side when looking forwards from the rear of the aircraft. The actuator moves up and down when opening/closing.