Experimenting with FaceTrackNoIR... Howard landing at Duxford!

***TuFun*** · April 24th, 2012, 08:42

I wanted to check out this program called FaceTrackNoIR in FSX. Looking to use this program in the Duxford Airshow video. Still more testing to do.

Teaser Duxford video...

***Daube*** · April 24th, 2012, 09:41

Nice landing !
I'm using FTNIR too, but I need to make some adjustments again on the sensitivity. I have lowered the EMWA filter to get a more direct response to my head movements, but I lowered it too much and I'm getting a bit too much parasite movements (due to lack of precision of face detection... I know, I have to shave... too lazy

). I'll have to raise this settings a bit more in future.

***roger-wilco-66*** · April 24th, 2012, 09:49

Looks very smooth, I always wanted to test that too.
What camera do you use?

Cheers,
Mark

***TuFun*** · April 24th, 2012, 09:59

Originally Posted by Daube

Nice landing !
I'm using FTNIR too, but I need to make some adjustments again on the sensitivity. I have lowered the EMWA filter to get a more direct response to my head movements, but I lowered it too much and I'm getting a bit too much parasite movements (due to lack of precision of face detection... I know, I have to shave... too lazy

). I'll have to raise this settings a bit more in future.

I'm using v160 beta with v150 EWMA fix filter at the moment. Just like EZDoc, a bunch of potential setting to play with.

***TuFun*** · April 24th, 2012, 10:02

Originally Posted by roger-wilco-66

Looks very smooth, I always wanted to test that too.
What camera do you use?

Cheers,
Mark

I using Logitech C270 webcam. Looking out the side of the cockpit on biplanes is easy now. Check back here, I will show an video example of the Stearman taxing in a few. -TF

***Naismith*** · April 24th, 2012, 10:04

Intriguing! First I have ever heard of this system. I am a TrackIR fan, but get frustrated with TIr's sensitivity to extraneous light sources, so much so that it is unusable during the day unless I drop the blinds. Is this FaceTrackNoIR similarily afflicted or can it be used in daylight?

***Daube*** · April 24th, 2012, 10:51

It can be used in daylight as long as your face keeps clearly visible (contrast/definition) on the webcam picture.
However, FTNIR is not as precise as a TrackIR. It's the freeware alternative, it's perfect for the price (and honnestly, it's really good), but everything I've read so far tells me the TrackIR is one level above.

***TuFun*** · April 24th, 2012, 11:26

Did some more flights... really liking this program. This program uses SimConnect, so I'm thinking this might work with P3D.

You can stretch yourself up or scrunch down, twisted sideways, and reach for levers and buttons. You can simulate g forces in videos if you want more realism.

***bushpilot*** · April 24th, 2012, 13:10

Wow this actually works well, and even with my cheap webcam. And it' easy to configure. Kudos!

**SkippyBing** · April 24th, 2012, 17:29

Originally Posted by TuFun

Did some more flights... really liking this program. This program uses SimConnect, so I'm thinking this might work with P3D.

You can stretch yourself up or scrunch down, twisted sideways, and reach for levers and buttons. You can simulate g forces in videos if you want more realism.

I can confirm it works with P3D, just put it in FSX mode and SimConnect interfaces just fine.

**Lionheart** · April 24th, 2012, 20:03

Nice!

Thanks for the heads up TuFun and SkippyBing!

***bushpilot*** · April 24th, 2012, 22:16

The downside of this prog seems to be the quite heavy CPU usage. Causing me minor stutters.

**jschall** · April 25th, 2012, 13:40

I tried this program without RTFM, and while it is working, it is giving me these problems:

1) The CPU usage with FTNIR alone (No FSX) is 75 to 80% on BOTH cores of my AMD FX62 (2.8 GHz).

2) Then I start FSX - it takes AGES to load. And CPU goes up to 100/97%.

3) The worst thing is - I am sitting about 4 to 5 feet above my seat! And I can't remember the keyboard command to lower the POV!

Are there any controls in the FTNIR program to change the POV?

Don't tell me I have to RTFM!

Update: I RTFM, but there's not much help there.

This time, I started FSX FIRST, then FTNIR. I was back down where I should be.

But now my problem is my view moves constantly - I get dizzy pretty fast. I hope I can find a way to increase the smoothing or filtering or whatever you call it.

**MHAircraft** · April 25th, 2012, 16:12

I started writing a similar program using the same faceAPI, but gave up because it was too slow. This thing tries to recognize your facial features in real time as game inputs, and it's done entirely in software. That's why it is so CPU-intensive.

Well, it looks like hardware performance is getting close to be able to handle both FSX and faceAPI. Maybe in a few more years, both can be run comfortably.

***Bruce Thompson*** · April 26th, 2012, 00:49

Tried this yesterday and had a good flight with it, runs o.k. on my machine which has a Quad core AMD CPU.

I also need to slow down the movements, it's moving a bit too fast but not sure what settings to alter.

Better RTFM I know, but have already had a glance at it and did not quite understand it.