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    New DCS Mustang WIP Screenshot

    New shot of the DCS Mustang Cockpit,also a nice detailed write up from The Developer concerning Manifold Pressure,2 Stage SuperCharger and WEP[War Emergency Power]
    http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=87065

    Between The DCS Mustang and The A2A Mustang[both in beta] this looks like it will be The Summer of the P-51!!! Can't wait for "Stang Summer"
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    **EDIT** This Mustang is NOT for FSX,It's a upcoming add-on for The DCS A-1OC WartHog Simulator.

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    Interesting what happens when two separate groups use the same, accurate, research and resource material (I might have to finally get that DCS game)!


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    Yes, but yours, has the correct number of rivets. Details details.... I'm not sure what the DCS has, but if you're working off the NA plans....I can see a few details that are missing from the DCS which are included in yours.

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    I don't know about that - although there are some very minor detail errors, I think they worked from the NAA plans too, as both have very much the exact same (accurate) proportions and contours to all of the parts and assemblies, and all of the correct hardware in all of the correct locations, etc. One of the things that catches my eye, is that the DCS production actually has the cable that runs from the throttle to the gun sight, something that I had at one time, but deleted before it was completed (due to the amount of polygons that had to be used). Without the cable, you can just adjust the range of the gun sight reticle by manually turning the dial on the gun sight itself, and that is how it is on mine, though most of the original setups were like that, with the cable, which allowed you to turn that same dial, but by twisting the barrel of the throttle lever. I'd like to see what happens to that cable on the DCS Mustang when the throttle is pushed forward - right now it looks like it would get caught in the throttle gate, where as it should be well clear of it, and much more 'taut', for the position it's in. It sounds like A2A will be trying to add that particular detail to their Mustang as well.

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    One of the things I want to additionally point out, to lend credence to both the DCS production and my own, is that despite the gun sight brackets being different from each other, both are accurate. The specific gun sight mounting bracket on the Warbirdsim P-51D's, fitted with a K-14A sight, is the type that was used on the P-51D-15-NA's, P-51D-20-NA's, and on about the first half of P-51D-25-NA's produced. The mounting bracket on the DCS Mustang was introduced during P-51D-25-NA production and used on all P-51D-30-NA production. As a result, with a few exceptions, most of the P-51D's that flew during WWII had the earlier gun sight mount, but post-WWII, the later gun sight mount became the standard.

    Here's the early-mid production mounting bracket (Warbirdsim):



    And here's the late mounting bracket (DCS):



    Early-mid production mounting bracket and gun sight shelf:



    And the late mounting bracket and gun sight shelf:



    And once again, early bracket:



    And late bracket:


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    Also, one of the things I noticed, is that they now have changed the super charger light from green (which it shouldn't be) to red, which is good. However, it should actually be amber, in order to be completely correct, according to the original manuals and production documents. So if anyone is reading this and is connected to the development, it might be something you'd wish to ammend, though of course isn't strictly important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bomber_12th View Post
    Interesting what happens when two separate groups use the same, accurate, research and resource material (I might have to finally get that DCS game)!

    John,Knowing your passion for aircraft and flight in general,You would absolutely L-O-V-E The DCS A-10C.The feeling of being airbourne and airspeed in this aircraft is incredible.90% of the time I just setup take-off and landing in cross-winds which is great fun.And of course the Combat aspect is very intense.

    Fantastic shots of the gun sight's aswell,Cheers

    Patrick

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    Patrick, that's what I've been hearing! Has the Nevada map been released yet? I've been meaning to take a closer interest in the game, once that map is released.

    As hopefully has already been understood, I'm very impressed with what I've seen with the DCS P-51D - although it is a bit weird seeing such a late model (summer of '45-ish), with the rare "Uncle Dog" antenna setup besides, finished in WWII-paint schemes, including a D-5 and an RCAF example, it is clear that a lot of research was done to get what is presented, done accurately. I've probably crossed paths with some of those involved, on another forum, not knowing it at the time.

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    Speaking of the K-14, these are the photos that I used to model the one on the Warbirdsim Mustangs, and for how similar they are between both of the productions, they could very likely have been the same photos used to model the gun sight by those who developed the DCS P-51. These were shared on that specific forum dedicated to the P-51, I mention in my previous post. The only thing missing from this example, is the glass, and the lettering on the bump guard is all but gone.











    And when modeling from original blueprints, this is where it all begins (note that this is one of the drawings for the early gun sight bracket).


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    Also, there were two slightly different control boxes for the K-14. The early ones had a simple red circuit breaker switch to turn on/off the power to the sight, where as the later ones had a toggle switch. The control box in the Warbirdsim examples is of the early type, where as the example in the DCS Mustang is the later type.

    Here's a photo of the early type (with a Swiss placard-decal on it):


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    WOW!!! Great shots of the K-14,Fantastic!! I've never seen one outside of the cockpit,I really get a sense of the craftmanship involved,Beautiful

    Sadly,Nevada is still a WIP with a new update coming soon.Word is it will be released this summer.Nevada is the first Map in a new engine being developed so this is likely why it's taking some time.WIP shots
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    Also,I Believe DCS is modeling the P-51D-25 "Miss Velma" Owned and operated by "The Fighter Collection" in Duxford
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