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    That's great to hear you are going to make the two seaters. I can't wait for the Mirage IV, my favorite Mirage two seater. OK, I know that isn't what you were saying, just throwing it out there for sometime in the distant future, maybe. You guys probably already have a good list going of what you want to model. I'm definitely looking forward to all of your M2000's. Thanks for the previews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strykerpsg View Post
    Tim, great looking model so far. Will Dassault try to stop this one like the Rollus model over marketing infringements? I hope not, as I thought the Rollus one looked superb and had no idea about it's withdrawl from the market. Anyway, I hope there was additional info I overlooked or misread regarding Dassault and the pulling of the Rollus model.
    So, did I misunderstand the debate about the Rollus model versus Dassault? I noticed no replies, just didn't fully realize why the Rollus model went away. This one is another must have for me, along with the fantastic paints.
    ....my other Stryker is a 2012 Challenger......

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    Hi Matt,

    Sorry to be honest, I can't comment on that, nor would I want to with something that has to do with any legal issue and wouldn't feel comfortable in a public forum. It wasn't that I was trying to ignore it, just didn't want to bring the discussion any further on that topic.

    Tim

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    Quote Originally Posted by timghetta View Post
    Hi Matt,

    Sorry to be honest, I can't comment on that, nor would I want to with something that has to do with any legal issue and wouldn't feel comfortable in a public forum. It wasn't that I was trying to ignore it, just didn't want to bring the discussion any further on that topic.

    Tim
    A very good approach indeed.

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    This is AWESOME! Glad to see this is in the works!!!!
    "If three-holers are gas guzzlers, why are there four-holers now???"
    "But what do i know? I'm just the 800 pound guerrilla in the room."

    Fire! Fire! Your pants better not be on fire....

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    Quote Originally Posted by timghetta View Post
    Hi Matt,

    Sorry to be honest, I can't comment on that, nor would I want to with something that has to do with any legal issue and wouldn't feel comfortable in a public forum. It wasn't that I was trying to ignore it, just didn't want to bring the discussion any further on that topic.

    Tim
    Tim & Frank, thanks for reply. Your replies are spot on and I guess I should just leave well enough alone just didn't understand the difference between the two events. Ultimately fantastic looking models and really looking forward to the release. Apologies for going off topic.
    ....my other Stryker is a 2012 Challenger......

    Matt

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    For historically accurate repaints for French Armée de l'Air Mirage 2000C
    best reference material for :

    2ième Escadre / Dijon Air Base
    5ième Escadre / Orange Air Base
    12 ième Escadre / Cambrai Air Base
    and
    CEAM / Mont de Marsan Air Base ( 330-xx coded )

    are Berna Decal Sheets ( for 1/48 scale plastic kits ) BER48011 and BER48042 as illustrated below.

    http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/BER48011
    http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/BER48042


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    Wow, that decal stuff is gold... just imagine the possibilities for repaints if they would sell those sheets as downloadable BMP or TIF files!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hschuit View Post
    Wow, that decal stuff is gold... just imagine the possibilities for repaints if they would sell those sheets as downloadable BMP or TIF files!
    I have both scanned on BMP Files !
    ( do not tell anyone )

    VaporZ

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    This does indeed look great!

    Is ther going to be a Greek version included? We had the -C version (coded -CG) although all of them have now been upgraded to -5 level.

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    Please do not rely on model airplane decals as your only reference source. They are great for inspiration but like any other drawing (and that is all the really are) they are wide open to artistic license. Multiple color photos of the same aircraft taken on the same day (you can't always trust the color of a single photo) are the best way to go. OK, stepping off my soapbox.

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    I'd love to see Taiwan Air Force 2000-5 Ei/Di variants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fsafranek View Post


    Please do not rely on model airplane decals as your only reference source. They are great for inspiration but like any other drawing (and that is all the really are) they are wide open to artistic license. Multiple color photos of the same aircraft taken on the same day (you can't always trust the color of a single photo) are the best way to go. OK, stepping off my soapbox.
    Besides, some people also use decals pasted directly from scans onto aircraft textures. Here I believe either in drawing from scratch ukng scans for ref or asking the proper people for permission to use, especially on a payware project. Wishing Tim and associates all th best on this lovely Mirage.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fsafranek View Post


    Please do not rely on model airplane decals as your only reference source. They are great for inspiration but like any other drawing (and that is all the really are) they are wide open to artistic license. Multiple color photos of the same aircraft taken on the same day (you can't always trust the color of a single photo) are the best way to go. OK, stepping off my soapbox.
    Sorry Frank but I have to disagree with you on this one,

    I know the guys behind Berna Decals.
    These decal sheets have been created from "French Spotters" multiple color photos of the same aircrafts taken on the same day.
    Berna Decals Team are known for the perfect historical accuracy of their products.

    VaporZ

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    Quote Originally Posted by DagR View Post
    Besides, some people also use decals pasted directly from scans onto aircraft textures. Here I believe either in drawing from scratch ukng scans for ref or asking the proper people for permission to use, especially on a payware project. Wishing Tim and associates all th best on this lovely Mirage.


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    DagR
    I agree completely and that's exactly how I do it when I find a well researched and nicely drawn decal sheet. I enlarge them way oversize, then trace them to create my own set to be reduced to fit properly. Much more control and accuracy that way.

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