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    Is an e6b legal to use in the Dead Reckoning sections of these routes to Cape Horn?
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    Just to make sure I am clear on Landings at .... Unprepared Airports and Temporary Landings.

    For anyone else that is reading besides the committee ... This review is specific to the trek across the Sahara in the Golden Age and doesn't cover or recap all aspects of landing at airports that are not on the approved list.




    An Uncertainty Cost is levied on landings at airports not on the Prepared Airport list ....... one hour. (Golden Age in Africa)

    If you refuel after landing at an Unprepared Airport, then you are blessed a penalty of ... five hours (instead of the one hour penalty and not added to the one hour penalty).





    Temporary Landings are basically to ask directions .... and may or may not be done at an airport ... could be a wide spot in the road or a farmer's field.

    No penalty incurred as long as the duenna is left running during the landing and subsequent take off to get back on course ... except for lost (flight) time on the ground.





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    Quote Originally Posted by salt_air View Post
    Temporary Landings are basically to ask directions .... and may or may not be done at an airport ... could be a wide spot in the road or a farmer's field.

    No penalty incurred as long as the duenna is left running during the landing and subsequent take off to get back on course ... except for lost (flight) time on the ground.
    You are correct Austin. No penalty, just loss of time and the possibility of hitting a gopher hole bringing your aeroplane to grief. You are lucky I didn't cable Miss Nellie on this!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moses03 View Post
    You are correct Austin. No penalty, just loss of time and the possibility of hitting a gopher hole bringing your aeroplane to grief. You are lucky I didn't cable Miss Nellie on this!

    Thanks Kevin ... getting set up for a bigg'un and wanted to be sure.

    Ahem - cough - hack .... yeah Miss Nellie's prolly busy havin' fun on her day off ... no need to bother her ...
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    Precision flight ?

    In version 0.90 of the rules there was mention of a competitive precision flight in both the modern and golden age events. But I couldn't find this in the final version of the rules. Please could Ms Munroe or Ms Nellie please confirm that this has been dropped?

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    It was dropped for the Golden Age.

    From Page 13:

    The Precision Race. (Modern Era)
    In the Precision Race, the pilot declares his target Flight Time en route. The precision score is the absolute difference between the declared and the actual flight time cumulated over the entire race: the lowest score wins. The pilot must make his final declaration of his total flight time in hours, minutes, and seconds, before he departs from Kinshasa, Congo (FZAB). Sandbagging is unsporting—egregious cases will be subject to disquali-fication on the decision of the Race Administrators. The Precision Race is conducted only in the Modern Era.
    From the way I read the rules, you don't have to participate in the Precision part, but it don't cost anything to make a guess. However as always, Miss Murphy might decided different. I doubt I'll even come close, but figure to give it a shot when I do my Modern Era run.
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    I didn't mean that one, I was referring to v0.90 of the rules, page 15:

    The Precision Flight
    Near the completion of the race, pilots will have an opportunity to conduct a competitive Preci-sion Flight. Before departure, each pilot declares the exact Target Flight Time that he will use in reaching his destination. The pilot might complete this segment in a single leg, or the pilot might take multiple legs (in which case the segment's Flight Time is the sum of the legs' Flight Times).
    The "deviation" is scored as the absolute value of the difference between his actual Flight Time and his previously declared Target Flight Time—measured in seconds. The winner is the pilot with the minimum deviation.
    For example, a pilot states his Target Flight Time is 2:05:00 (two hours and five minutes) and he actually flies the distance in 2:08:30 (two hours eight minutes and 30 seconds). Then his score is 210 seconds. Or he might fly it in 1:58:00 and get a score of 420 seconds. The lowest score wins.
    The location of the Precision Flight varies for the two classes:
    Golden Age Precision Flight:
    FAKM-FAYP – Kimberly-Cape Town, 443nm or (at the pilot's option) FAGM-FAYP –Johannesburg- Cape Town, 678nm
    Modern Era Precision Flight:
    ENVA-ENHV – Trondheim-Honningsvåg, 569nm


    I read this as being completely separate from the Precision Race when pilots declare their expected time for the whole event. But I couldn't find it in the final version of the rules.

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    v.090 was a draft of the final rules and doesn't apply. It was only released as a sneak peek as to what we were up to as we were still wrestling with some issues and needed to get something out.

    There were several changes in the Final that weren't in v0.90. The Precision race was part of those changes.

    Here is v1.00, the Final release which is what everyone should be going by.
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    Not for the sake of any argument, but hopefully to do some down-field blocking on questions later as folks get closer ....


    Page 7 in the current version of the rules v1.00 ... as per link in Willy's post reads:

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    Precision Flight in the Golden Age
    Near the completion of the Golden Age race, pilots will have an opportunity to conduct a compet-itive Precision Flight. Before departure, each pilot declares the exact Target Flight Time that he will use in reaching his destination. The pilot might complete this segment in a single leg, or the pilot might take multiple legs (in which case the segment's Flight Time is the sum of the legs' Flight Times).
    The "deviation" is scored as the absolute value of the difference between his actual Flight Time and his previously declared Target Flight Time—measured in seconds. The winner is the pilot with the minimum deviation.
    For example, a pilot states his Target Flight Time is 2:05:00 (two hours and five minutes) and he actually flies the distance in 2:08:30 (two hours eight minutes and 30 seconds). Then his score is 210 seconds. Or he might fly it in 1:58:00 and get a score of 420 seconds. The lowest score wins.
    The pilot may choose from two options the location of his Precision Flight:
    FAKM-FAYP – Kimberly-Cape Town, 443nm
    or (at the pilot's option)
    FAGM-FAYP – Johannesburg-Cape Town, 678nm
    The Precision Flight is a stand-alone contest that does not affect the outcome of the Speed Race or the Reference Race. Other than the fact that pilots must (nearly) finish the race course to reach the starting airport of the Precision Flight, the contests are not related. (There is no Precision Flight in the Modern Era.)
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    Oops! Forgot about that one! Thanks Salt!
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    Hey guys,

    Sorry to come on here asking questions a long time after everyone else, but...

    In the rules (release 1.0) it says the Percival P6 Mew Gull has a reference time of 45.0 hours (also 45.0 in the rules spreadsheet). But on the tracking Google docs spreadsheet it's in as 42.9 hours. Which one is correct?

    Thanks.
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    Think it is 45.0 hours.

    We adjusted the numbers at the last minute to add in extra time for ascent/descent/landing to get a more "do-able" reference time. Will double-check to be sure.
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