Golden wings and Silver wings scenery

**highpockets** · March 26th, 2012, 15:35

I moved my FSGW install to another computer and am trying to update with some new A/C, scenery, etc. In my old install, I see a scenery video cd movie icon. In the new install I see an icon labled scenery.dat. Am I missing something? Can GW and SW be combined in the same install: GW,SW,A/C scenery and all?

***Willy*** · March 26th, 2012, 18:10

From what I understand Silver Wings is just Golden Wings without the airport mods.

***modelr*** · March 27th, 2012, 04:24

Originally Posted by Willy

From what I understand Silver Wings is just Golden Wings without the airport mods.

Nope, Silverwings is totally different. The scenery layout tries, very well, I might add, to replicate the smalltown layouts in the 50's and 60's before the big housing booms. It also uses the older airport layouts and colorings. There are many many download sceneries built specifically for Silverwings. Also, the sceneries and AI sets from Cal Classics are designed for Silverwings.

It is recommended NOT to use a lot of the add-on texture sets for the standard FS9 version in Silverwings, as they do change the look of the towns.

While the Silverwings does affect the worldwide sceneries, somewhat, most of the changes are in the USA. There are a lot of add-on sceneries designed to work in other parts of the world.

***mgchrist5*** · March 27th, 2012, 06:01

Nope, Silverwings is totally different.

Interesting. My assumption was the same as Willy's - that Silerwings was just the ground textures minus the airport mods. I've been contemplating doing a separate install of FS specifically for 'retro' purposes. Just to clarify - so Silverwings contains both ground texture mods & airport mods that are supposed to replicate the '50s & '60s? While Goldenwings does the same, just for an earlier time period ('20s-'30s)?

***pfflyers*** · March 27th, 2012, 08:00

Silverwings mostly changes autogen and some ground textures.

The autogen is supposed to give you a slightly 'retro' look. My only quibble with the autogen is that the water towers sprout like mushrooms if you like your scenery 'dense'.

Most major airports are not changed much, if at all.

It also includes some nice weather themes for those like me that don't use live weather.

**napamule** · March 27th, 2012, 17:01

Darn right. The 'Winter Wonderland' sets up the ground snow cover, etc. Then you switch to 'User Defined/Advanced' and choose 'moderate' snow and wind and visibility (this is important). Set visibility to 10 nm and you can't see very far, and makes it interesting (use top down view, zoomed in, to locate runway). Normal is 20 nm. 5 nm might work for you on slower aircraft landing at grass strips, etc. Lots of possibilities/combinations are possible. Cloud can be set to overcast for best effect. A brand new side of simming is waiting for you that want to dabble in 'weather' themes/combinations. Hint: set visibility to 20 nm and base alt to '0 ft' and tops to '6500 ft'.

I can't do without my Silverwings scenery. Every one of my installls (just redid it last month-new PC) just have to have Silverwings auto gen/airport textures. Or else. Thanks again to Bill Lyons. His work endures.
Chuck B
Napamue

**Cowboy1968** · March 29th, 2012, 05:40

I have completely back dated my install. I use scenery from silverwings and Cal Classic. I use the AI traffic, am writing some of my own traffic and so on. It becomes a "new" old sim.

but yes, i would suggest the cal classic scenery. The water textures are some of the best you will find for our sim.

**Milton Shupe** · March 29th, 2012, 12:13

Will these packages work in FS2002? or are there FS2002 versions?

**napamule** · March 29th, 2012, 15:07

Here is what I found. I might install FS2002 just to try it to find out? Nah. Info and downloads, including Update zips: http://www.goldenwings.info/ . There is more reading about GW3 at 'The Old Hangar' (now inactive, but you can still access forum posts).
Chuck B
Napamule

**Milton Shupe** · March 29th, 2012, 15:13

Thanks Napamule

**philmoberg** · March 29th, 2012, 15:28

Originally Posted by napamule

... There is more reading about GW3 at 'The Old Hangar' ...

FYI TOH forums moved when Tom Constantine retired. The new URL is here: http://mainescenery.proboards.com/in...i?board=hangar.

***modelr*** · March 29th, 2012, 19:14

Besides the Cal Classic sceneries, there are a lot of others that backdate airports to the 50's and 60's. I install them into Silverwings, also. I have 4 installs right now, plus one pure install. Goldenwings, which has everything up to the end of WWII, Silverwings which has everything from the end of WWII into the early 80's, one named 80's which starts in the late '70s thru around 2000, (this one has my MAIW Top Gun package installed) and one that includes nearly everything else up to the present. Since we have a lot of restored aircraft flying today, I have a lot of early ones also. Each install has different scenery packages, as well as different types.

***SPman*** · March 29th, 2012, 19:57

Call me stupid, but.....where do I get Silverwings. I've got GW3 (but not yet installed - waiting until I finish new computer....)

**napamule** · March 29th, 2012, 22:26

You are welcome Milton. I had some free time-as today is my 'Day Off' (hehe). I had a pic showing exact forum reply to 'will SilverWings work in FS2002'. The answer was 'NO', due to different scenery folder structure, etc. Pic (in post) was probably too large? No matter. Answer is still 'NO".

The Silver Wings can be found at Flight Sim Com. I would post link, but you have to be registered to download, so it won't work. Simply key in 'silver wings'. If you key in 'Bill Lyons' you will get 100's of files to sort through. The above link will get you GW3 and the updates, without having to join.
Chuck B
Napamule
Edit: Silver Wings is also available at SimViation Com. Key in 'silver wings' in search. It's 40 Mb download. Pack a lunch.

**Cowboy1968** · March 29th, 2012, 22:55

Here is an example of what you can do with Silverwings and classic Cal and HJG add ons.

This is American Airlines N5604 a Convair 990 in early Astrojet livery. This livery was very simalar to the Flagship livery that American used ever since the 1940's.

She is traveling at 350 kts IAS at 31,000 ft on a course of 090 over Nevada in route to Santa Fe, New Mexico.

The other pic is of American Airlines N7515A climbing through a thunderstorm (from silverwings weather, took a lot of patience to get this shot) over New York City. This Boeing 707-120 is in Flagship livery used on the early jets flown by American.