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    Quote Originally Posted by stiz View Post
    its extactly the same, just a different name on the main folder
    That all sounds good although in terms of payware, it looks like you may run afoul of most original EULAs unless you buy a related licence.

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    The legalese of the academic version EULA is essentially Lockheeds way of saying we can all 'enjoy'/'educate ourselves' with it as home users. P3D has to be called an educational tool because they don't want to step on M$'s toes and openly compete with Flight. We have used FSX as a training tool....if you can fly an A2A Accusim bird or a PMDG Tube...etc you have certianly taught yourself a skill

    I think if I were a CFI or running a flight school, I would have to get the pro version, using P3D as a training tool for a groundschool where there is a potential for liablity issues.

    At the moment there might not be a much improvment from FSX, but there is a lot of potential for P3D to be a natural evolutionary sucessor to FSX for the hardcore addon junkies such as us. Glad to see Bill has found a place there, hopefully won't loose as much hair from getting things to be FSX compatible

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    Since the topic is about the $50 Academic License and since this is Sim-Outhouse where we seem to staunchly support (at least) member's EULA's and rules/terms of proper use...

    I guess it's safe to assume that everyone who buys Prepar3d via the $49.95 Academic License
    -- is NOT using it as "a personal/consumer entertainment product" and
    -- IS actively and primarily engaged in providing "undergraduate student instruction", "K-12 student instruction", "K-12 after-school programs" or
    -- IS a student in a K-12 or undergraduate program.

    http://www.prepar3d.com/prepar3d-license-comparison/

    or is that another erroneous assumption? I'd hate to think that the Quest For The Holy Grail of the Next and Best Flight Simulator would lure people into ...ummm... "fudging the rules" to save a buck or selfishly contravene a license.

    Naw.. that wouldn't happen....
    and I'm sure no one would use a SOH Forum to admit to, or encourage it either...

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    I figure it is safe to say that some people are "Home" users educating them selves more on flying and some hold a developers licence and some are flight students talking about Prepard3d and some hold the professional licence.

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    So, to sum all this up, what, if any are the advantages of P3b? Is it worth the money, and what is the future of the sim?


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    surely, if LM want to hold you to the EULA, then there needs to be a more stringent procedure for allowing purchase. I mean, 'of course' everyone will claim they are using the edtion for Student Learning. But if they want to make it stand up, then please make people prove their entitlement at time of purchase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by srgalahad View Post
    Since the topic is about the $50 Academic License and since this is Sim-Outhouse where we seem to staunchly support (at least) member's EULA's and rules/terms of proper use...

    I guess it's safe to assume that everyone who buys Prepar3d via the $49.95 Academic License
    -- is NOT using it as "a personal/consumer entertainment product" and
    -- IS actively and primarily engaged in providing "undergraduate student instruction", "K-12 student instruction", "K-12 after-school programs" or
    -- IS a student in a K-12 or undergraduate program.

    http://www.prepar3d.com/prepar3d-license-comparison/

    or is that another erroneous assumption? I'd hate to think that the Quest For The Holy Grail of the Next and Best Flight Simulator would lure people into ...ummm... "fudging the rules" to save a buck or selfishly contravene a license.

    Naw.. that wouldn't happen....
    and I'm sure no one would use a SOH Forum to admit to, or encourage it either...
    Looks to me that if you have a degree you should buy the professional license otherwise you can use the academic license for home use. It says Individual student use k-12 and undergraduate. By the way my family does not consider FSX entertaining in any way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sieggie View Post
    Looks to me that if you have a degree you should buy the professional license otherwise you can use the academic license for home use. It says Individual student use k-12 and undergraduate. By the way my family does not consider FSX entertaining in any way.

    Dave
    It's a thorny issue. I look forward to hearing other opinions on this same topic but in the final analysis, it is an issue between the P3D end user and LM.

    I also would like to hear from the fsx payware developers who frequent this forum. Have you changed your EULAs or do you plan to do so to allow your products to be used in P3D? Does this imply you will provide a separate P3D installer? (in which case I have to assume you would charge $ just like Orbx does.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilence View Post
    After quickly comparing the Professional License with the Academic License I noticed the following 2 differences in the description:

    The academic license seem to miss the following:

    -Whole Earth WGS-84 Model
    -Realistic Air Traffic Control

    This doesn't necessarily mean that it's not present in the Academic version, but I'd like to be sure .
    Also, these are licenses, does that mean that you have to renew licenses later on? I wouldn't want to spend a lot of money now just to find out I have to spend more money on version 2....
    That's what I noticed too... Does anyone know the answer to that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stan V. View Post
    It's a thorny issue. I look forward to hearing other opinions on this same topic but in the final analysis, it is an issue between the P3D end user and LM.

    I also would like to hear from the fsx payware developers who frequent this forum. Have you changed your EULAs or do you plan to do so to allow your products to be used in P3D? Does this imply you will provide a separate P3D installer? (in which case I have to assume you would charge $ just like Orbx does.)
    Speaking from RAZBAM, we are not changing our EULAs but they will be pretty much 2 separate products, difference between each other is what the FSX engine will allow us to do and what the Prepar3d engine let us do.Of course since the are separate products, they are sold differently,but at the same price.In fact, the T-2 Buckeye comes with a FSX flavor and Prepar3d Flavor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stan V. View Post
    I also would like to hear from the fsx payware developers who frequent this forum. Have you changed your EULAs or do you plan to do so to allow your products to be used in P3D? Does this imply you will provide a separate P3D installer? (in which case I have to assume you would charge $ just like Orbx does.)
    If I ever get to the point of releasing more mesh the license will allow for one individual to use the software on one computer at a time for non-commercial purposes. Use it with FSX? OK. Use it with Prepar3d? OK. Just use it on one computer at a time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stan V. View Post
    It's a thorny issue. I look forward to hearing other opinions on this same topic but in the final analysis, it is an issue between the P3D end user and LM.

    I also would like to hear from the fsx payware developers who frequent this forum. Have you changed your EULAs or do you plan to do so to allow your products to be used in P3D? Does this imply you will provide a separate P3D installer? (in which case I have to assume you would charge $ just like Orbx does.)
    I put in a question on that to the forums. Waiting to hear back. I hope/intend to create separate new installers for P3D soon and deliver/upload them to my vendors as soon as possible.


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    Looks to me that if you have a degree you should buy the professional license otherwise you can use the academic license for home use. It says Individual student use k-12 and undergraduate. By the way my family does not consider FSX entertaining in any way.

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    LOLOL.... More like torture with all those ingenious niggles and studders and disappearing clouds, lol... I could never take over 30 min's at a time.


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    Although i'm cross developing for fsx as well as P3D, my main market remains FSX and so i'm not going to be offering any flight models for P3D for the time being. That said however, I know people will be porting my workmover tyo P3D so i have to do cross development to ensure best performance in both genre's.
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    I think Meshman has hit on a good compromise. I have alot of fsx software, payware, freeware, whatever and don't think I would want to have to pay for one over the other. Reminds me of when cd's came out have go out and buy the same cd's that I had on vinyl, got vhs, get dvd, got dvd got to get blueray. To me on S.S. can not support both ways any longer.
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    Looks to me that if you have a degree you should buy the professional license otherwise you can use the academic license for home use.
    I don't think that's the correct interpretation, the academic license is for non-degree level education but if you have say a BSc in Geology you could be considered to be learning about aviation at a much lower level. As another example you may have a BEng in Aeronautics, but if you're using it to learn to fly the P3D license you use would depend on what level of qualification a pilot's license is equivalent to, which probably varies by country and level of license.

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